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dirty shrimp money: Jan 8, 2001

Wrong thread.

dirty shrimp money fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Nov 6, 2013

# ? Nov 4, 2013 02:33

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# ? Apr 26, 2024 22:33

dirty shrimp money: Jan 8, 2001

pre:

#       LW	Team		Record	Score
1	3	Florida State	8-0	3.3643
2	1	Oregon		8-0	3.2088
3	2	Alabama		8-0	3.1820
4	4	Ohio State	9-0	2.8999
5	6	Missouri	8-1	2.6425
6	5	Baylor		7-0	2.4937
7	7	Stanford	7-1	2.2970
8	11	Clemson		8-1	2.2707
9	13	Michigan State	8-1	2.2315
10	8	Louisville	7-1	2.1750
11	12	Auburn		8-1	2.1109
12	16	Oklahoma State	7-1	2.0416
13	10	Oklahoma	7-1	1.9810
14	17	Arizona State	6-2	1.9292
15	21	Wisconsin	6-2	1.8517
16	9	Miami (FL)	7-1	1.8112
17	19	Northern Ill.	9-0	1.7744
18	14	LSU		7-2	1.7694
19	18	Houston		7-1	1.7632
20	15	UCF		6-1	1.7205
21	28	South Carolina	7-2	1.5357
22	25	Fresno State	8-0	1.4747
23	33	Texas A&M	7-2	1.4355
24	22	BYU		6-2	1.4219
25	26	UCLA		6-2	1.4124

pre:

#	LW	Team		Record	Score
26	29	Texas		6-2	1.4052
27	24	Ball State	8-1	1.3635
28	31	Notre Dame	7-2	1.2753
29	20	Texas Tech	7-2	1.2544
30	32	Arizona		6-2	1.2347
31	35	Minnesota	7-2	1.1987
32	34	Duke		6-2	1.0640
33	27	Michigan	6-2	1.0362
34	41	Cincinnati	6-2	1.0123
35	36	Washington	5-3	1.0121
36	48	USC		6-3	1.0071
37	42	East Carolina	6-2	0.9983
38	38	Louisiana-Laf.	6-2	0.9973
39	23	Virginia Tech	6-3	0.9900
40	37	SUNY Buffalo	6-2	0.9691
41	46	Georgia Tech	6-3	0.9549
42	39	Ole Miss	5-3	0.9413
43	49	North Texas	6-3	0.9023
44	45	Nebraska	6-2	0.9010
45	51	Utah State	5-4	0.8957
46	30	Oregon State	6-3	0.8873
47	52	Toledo		6-3	0.8389
48	44	Ohio U		6-2	0.8249
(FBS MEAN)
49	56	Marshall	5-3	0.7735
50	54	Georgia		5-3	0.7727
51	53	Boise State	6-3	0.7354
52	40	Rice		6-3	0.7310
53	50	Bowling Green	5-3	0.7027
54	58	Old Dominion 	6-3	0.6154
55	43	Tulane		6-3	0.5976
56	60	Texas State	6-3	0.5224
57	63	Penn State	5-3	0.4952
58	47	Iowa		5-4	0.4613
59	59	Maryland	5-3	0.3851
60	67	San Jose State	5-3	0.3584
61	57	Florida		4-4	0.2913
62	64	Vanderbilt	4-4	0.2467
63	76	Middle Tenn.	5-4	0.2344
64	68	Rutgers		5-3	0.2269
65	55	Mississippi St.	4-4	0.2129
66	61	Navy		4-4	0.2039
67	62	UNLV		5-4	0.1572
68	71	Wyoming		4-4	0.1166
69	73	Utah		4-4	0.1111
70	77	Arkansas State	4-4	0.0823
71	82	Boston College	4-4	0.0769
72	80	Western Ky.	5-4	0.0576
73	86	Kansas State	4-4	0.0255
74	81	West Virginia	4-5	0.0233
75	65	Pittsburgh	4-4	0.0125
76	84	Syracuse	4-4	0.0032
77	69	Northwestern	4-5	0.0029
78	66	Tennessee	4-5	0.0026
79	74	Washington St.	4-5	-0.0447
80	70	Troy		5-4	-0.0610
81	91	LA-Monroe	5-4	-0.0616
82	72	Wake Forest	4-5	-0.0849
83	75	Colorado State	4-5	-0.0913
84	93	North Carolina	3-5	-0.1603
85	78	Indiana		3-5	-0.1672
86	95	San Diego State	4-4	-0.1812
87	89	SMU		3-4	-0.2059
88	79	NC State	3-5	-0.2210
89	87	Colorado	3-5	-0.2416
90	83	TCU		3-6	-0.2428
91	100	UTSA		4-5	-0.2638
92	85	South Alabama	3-5	-0.2825
93	88	Illinois	3-5	-0.2941
94	90	Nevada		3-6	-0.3328
95	102	Kentucky	2-6	-0.3553
96	92	Army		3-6	-0.3644
97	106	Florida Atl.	3-6	-0.3919
98	97	Louisiana Tech	3-5	-0.3955
99	99	Central Mich.	3-5	-0.4062
100	96	Kansas		2-6	-0.4100
101	94	Arkansas	3-6	-0.4112
102	98	Virginia	2-7	-0.5414
103	101	New Mexico	2-6	-0.5583
104	111	Akron		3-7	-0.5755
105	107	South Florida	2-6	-0.5933
106	104	UAB		2-6	-0.6428
107	108	Iowa State	1-7	-0.6477
108	103	Memphis		1-6	-0.6546
109	105	Tulsa		2-6	-0.7060
110	109	Purdue		1-7	-0.7215
111	115	Air Force	2-7	-0.7805
112	110	California	1-8	-0.7964
113	118	Connecticut	0-7	-0.9122
114	113	Temple		1-8	-0.9331
115	112	Kent State	2-8	-0.9423
116	114	UTEP		1-7	-1.0127

pre:

#	LW	Team		Record	Score
117	117	Massachusetts	1-8	-1.0248
118	120	Florida Intl.	1-7	-1.0333
119	116	Idaho		1-8	-1.0359
120	119	Eastern Mich.	1-8	-1.0431
121	121	Hawaii		0-8	-1.0452
122	122	Southern Miss	0-8	-1.1547
123	123	New Mexico St	1-8	-1.1674
124	124	Miami (OH)	0-8	-1.2027
125	125	Western Mich.	1-8	-1.2075
126	126	Georgia State 	0-9	-1.7376

Y = 3.3643-.0291X ..... or Florida State - Florida*X
R^2 = .9546
E = .0005 ..... or Syracuse

And hows about a big honkin chart for kicks

# ? Nov 6, 2013 00:13

Captain von Trapp: Jan 23, 2006; I don't like it, and I'm sorry I ever had anything to do with it.

Man, quiet thread this year. DIVISIONB.CSV

This poll tends toward late-season stability, because it doesn't care about the order in which games are played. A late loss is no worse than an early loss. Thus Oregon just fell to #4. Don't take any of the FCS rankings seriously, as they're based purely on games vs FBS teams and thus aren't very fair.

code:

1 	 Florida State 	 75.36
2 	 Alabama 	 75.19
3 	 Baylor 	 71.72
4 	 Oregon 	 69.27
5 	 Ohio State 	 66.88
6 	 Missouri 	 66.45
7 	 Stanford 	 64.77
8 	 Wisconsin 	 63.97
9 	 Texas A&M 	 62.7
10 	 Arizona State 	 61.8
11 	 LSU 	 61.49
12 	 Clemson 	 60.91
13 	 Auburn 	 60.82
14 	 Mississippi 	 59.56
15 	 South Carolina 	 58.85
16 	 Georgia 	 58.77
17 	 Washington 	 58.67
18 	 UCLA 	 58.14
19 	 Michigan State 	 57.65
20 	 Oklahoma State 	 57.43
21 	 BYU 	 57.07
22 	 Louisville 	 57.01
23 	 North Dakota State 	 56.88
24 	 Kansas State 	 56.87
25 	 Virginia Tech 	 56.01
26 	 USC 	 55.84
27 	 UCF 	 55.55
28 	 Vanderbilt 	 55.2
29 	 Miami (Florida) 	 55.12
30 	 Georgia Tech 	 54.51
31 	 Utah 	 54.28
32 	 Texas 	 54.19
33 	 Florida 	 54.17
34 	 Arizona 	 53.47
35 	 Buffalo 	 53.06
36 	 Oklahoma 	 53.05
37 	 Houston 	 52.78
38 	 Iowa 	 52.69
39 	 McNeese State 	 52.36
40 	 Oregon State 	 52.25
41 	 Duke 	 51.96
42 	 East Carolina 	 51.82
43 	 Michigan 	 50.85
44 	 Northern Illinois 	 50.84
45 	 Notre Dame 	 50.82
46 	 Minnesota 	 50.75
47 	 Tennessee 	 50.51
48 	 Texas Tech 	 50.27
49 	 North Carolina 	 50.22
50 	 Eastern Illinois 	 50.14
51 	 Northwestern 	 49.93
52 	 Indiana 	 49.8
53 	 Pittsburgh 	 49.5
54 	 Washington State 	 49.42
55 	 Northern Iowa 	 49.3
56 	 Boston College 	 49.15
57 	 Ball State 	 49.02
58 	 Boise State 	 48.97
59 	 Nebraska 	 48.97
60 	 Mississippi State 	 48.52
61 	 Utah State 	 48.47
62 	 Syracuse 	 48.02
63 	 Stony Brook 	 47.89
64 	 Penn State 	 47.85
65 	 Fresno State 	 47.81
66 	 Toledo 	 47.66
67 	 North Texas 	 47.62
68 	 Bowling Green 	 46.3
69 	 Chattanooga 	 46.2
70 	 Marshall 	 46.11
71 	 TCU 	 45.83
72 	 Eastern Washington 	 45.76
73 	 Towson 	 45.51
74 	 Navy 	 45.39
75 	 Arkansas 	 45.15
76 	 West Virginia 	 45.08
77 	 Wake Forest 	 45.05
78 	 Louisiana-Lafayette 	 44.66
79 	 Ohio 	 44.3
80 	 Maryland 	 44.22
81 	 Iowa State 	 43.88
82 	 Rice 	 43.08
83 	 Rutgers 	 42.95
84 	 Florida Atlantic 	 42.54
85 	 Illinois 	 42.5
86 	 Virginia 	 41.87
87 	 Cincinnati 	 41.73
88 	 Tulane 	 41.72
89 	 Middle Tennessee 	 41.2
90 	 Kentucky 	 41.06
91 	 Bethune-Cookman 	 40.72
92 	 Colorado 	 40.72
93 	 Western Kentucky 	 40.68
94 	 North Carolina State 	 40.64
95 	 Memphis 	 40.61
96 	 South Alabama 	 40.55
97 	 San Jose State 	 40.46
98 	 Arkansas State 	 40.09
99 	 UTSA 	 39.78
100 	 San Diego State 	 39.66
101 	 SMU 	 38.92
102 	 Colorado State 	 38.68
103 	 Richmond 	 38.26
104 	 Southeast Missouri State 	 37.84
105 	 Villanova 	 37.8
106 	 Montana State 	 37.73
107 	 Louisiana-Monroe 	 37.39
108 	 Missouri State 	 37.36
109 	 UNLV 	 37.3
110 	 Wofford 	 37.11
111 	 William & Mary 	 36.99
112 	 South Florida 	 36.99
113 	 Southern Utah 	 36.89
114 	 Troy 	 36.85
115 	 Akron 	 36.54
116 	 Texas State 	 36.52
117 	 Florida A&M 	 36.48
118 	 California 	 36.43
119 	 Maine 	 35.78
120 	 Tennessee Tech 	 35.65
121 	 Sam Houston State 	 35.34
122 	 Wyoming 	 35.31
123 	 Fordham 	 35.27
124 	 Samford 	 35.26
125 	 Furman 	 35.17
126 	 Old Dominion 	 35.08
127 	 South Carolina State 	 34.9
128 	 James Madison 	 34.79
129 	 Eastern Kentucky 	 34.29
130 	 Southern Illinois 	 34.28
131 	 Youngstown State 	 34.21
132 	 Temple 	 33.82
133 	 Kansas 	 33.77
134 	 Tulsa 	 33.75
135 	 Nevada 	 33.75
136 	 Appalachian State 	 33.62
137 	 Idaho State 	 33.59
138 	 Jacksonville State 	 33.32
139 	 Connecticut 	 33.29
140 	 Kent State 	 33.1
141 	 Illinois State 	 32.16
142 	 Central Michigan 	 32.09
143 	 Elon 	 32.08
144 	 Southern University 	 31.95
145 	 Northern Arizona 	 31.83
146 	 New Mexico 	 31.79
147 	 Army 	 31.46
148 	 N.C. Central 	 31.29
149 	 Hawai'i 	 31.2
150 	 Purdue 	 31.18
151 	 Stephen F. Austin 	 30.05
152 	 Air Force 	 30.0
153 	 New Hampshire 	 29.98
154 	 UAB 	 29.74
155 	 South Dakota State 	 29.63
156 	 Portland State 	 29.32
157 	 Louisiana Tech 	 29.27
158 	 Southeastern Louisiana 	 29.11
159 	 Central Arkansas 	 28.78
160 	 Wagner 	 28.62
161 	 Alcorn St. 	 28.51
162 	 Gardner-Webb 	 28.29
163 	 Presbyterian 	 28.23
164 	 Liberty 	 27.45
165 	 Murray State 	 27.33
166 	 Delaware 	 27.25
167 	 Cal Poly 	 27.15
168 	 Nicholls State 	 26.37
169 	 Norfolk State 	 26.1
170 	 Jackson State 	 26.04
171 	 Weber State 	 25.95
172 	 Tennessee-Martin 	 25.85
173 	 Georgia State 	 25.71
174 	 Massachusetts 	 25.65
175 	 Indiana State 	 25.12
176 	 UTEP 	 24.89
177 	 Sacramento State 	 24.63
178 	 Idaho 	 24.62
179 	 Western Carolina 	 24.23
180 	 Charleston So. 	 24.16
181 	 Arkansas-Pine Bluff 	 24.05
182 	 Alabama St. 	 24.05
183 	 Virginia Military 	 23.95
184 	 Western Illinois 	 23.74
185 	 Western Michigan 	 23.36
186 	 Prairie View A&M 	 22.86
187 	 Eastern Michigan 	 22.85
188 	 Grambling 	 22.17
189 	 Austin Peay 	 22.17
190 	 South Dakota 	 22.01
191 	 Northern Colorado 	 21.51
192 	 Miami (Ohio) 	 21.13
193 	 Florida International 	 20.66
194 	 Savannah State 	 20.2
195 	 Lamar 	 20.1
196 	 UC Davis 	 19.85
197 	 Southern Mississippi 	 19.49
198 	 New Mexico State 	 18.49
199 	 Morgan State 	 18.23
200 	 Colgate 	 17.33
201 	 Howard 	 17.09
202 	 Northwestern State 	 14.99

# ? Nov 11, 2013 19:18

wa27: Jan 15, 2007

Every week I keep thinking I'll finally get motivated and run my poll, and every week I don't bother.

Maybe this will be the week. :effort:

# ? Nov 11, 2013 19:55

Basil Hayden: Oct 9, 2012; 1921!

wa27 posted:

Every week I keep thinking I'll finally get motivated and run my poll, and every week I don't bother.

Maybe this will be the week.

I know that feeling. At least you didn't start the thread promising to do summary posts, then discover you'd broken your poll and just can't be assed to fix it. :cripes:

Maybe I'll make it up by going on a retrorating kick in the offseason, I don't know.

# ? Nov 11, 2013 21:36

Tad SG: Apr 16, 2003; Here are provided seats of meditative joy, where shall rise again the destined reign of Troy.

I didn't run mine last week, but here's week 11!

code:

1.	Alabama	:2.0443
2.	Florida State	:2.0327
3.	Baylor	:1.8664
4.	Stanford	:1.5909
5.	Ohio State	:1.5769
6.	Northern Illinois	:1.5413
7.	Oregon	:1.5300
8.	Fresno State	:1.4801
9.	Missouri	:1.4372
10.	Central Florida	:1.4266
11.	Auburn	:1.3542
12.	Louisville	:1.3468
13.	Oklahoma State	:1.2855
14.	Clemson	:1.2772
15.	Ball State	:1.2233
16.	UCLA	:1.2194
17.	Michigan State	:1.1923
18.	South Carolina	:1.1880
19.	Arizona State	:1.1819
20.	East Carolina	:1.1217
21.	Texas	:1.1205
22.	Wisconsin	:1.0674
23.	Oklahoma	:1.0279
24.	Houston	:1.0083
25.	Louisiana-Lafayette	:0.8676
26.	Southern California	:0.8609
27.	North Texas	:0.8435
28.	Brigham Young	:0.8325
29.	Minnesota	:0.8195
30.	Texas A&M	:0.7913
31.	Louisiana State	:0.7521
32.	Buffalo	:0.7487
33.	Virginia Tech	:0.7345
34.	Notre Dame	:0.7157
35.	Arizona	:0.6965
36.	Cincinnati	:0.6920
37.	Miami (Florida)	:0.6914
38.	Nebraska	:0.6773
39.	Duke	:0.6508
40.	Rice	:0.6270
41.	Marshall	:0.5818
42.	Michigan	:0.5808
43.	Washington	:0.5447
44.	Boise State	:0.5419
45.	Georgia Tech	:0.5329
46.	Georgia	:0.4877
47.	Texas Tech	:0.4705
48.	Mississippi	:0.4008
49.	Bowling Green State	:0.3764
50.	Oregon State	:0.3612
51.	Toledo	:0.3302
52.	Utah State	:0.2979
53.	Ohio	:0.2722
54.	Syracuse	:0.2250
55.	Texas State	:0.2037
56.	Navy	:0.1826
57.	Rutgers	:0.1594
58.	Pittsburgh	:0.1200
59.	Penn State	:0.1074
60.	Tulane	:0.0817
61.	Kansas State	:0.0539
62.	Vanderbilt	:0.0517
63.	Middle Tennessee State	:0.0177
64.	Western Kentucky	:0.0023
65.	Boston College	:-0.0319
66.	Maryland	:-0.0368
67.	Florida	:-0.0502
68.	Iowa	:-0.0959
69.	Texas-San Antonio	:-0.1008
70.	San Jose State	:-0.1251
71.	Arkansas State	:-0.1450
72.	San Diego State	:-0.1598
73.	Troy	:-0.2809
74.	Washington State	:-0.3003
75.	North Carolina	:-0.3032
76.	Florida Atlantic	:-0.3267
77.	Colorado State	:-0.3311
78.	Utah	:-0.3809
79.	Wake Forest	:-0.4421
80.	Wyoming	:-0.4528
81.	Northwestern	:-0.4791
82.	Nevada-Las Vegas	:-0.5301
83.	Louisiana-Monroe	:-0.5326
84.	Mississippi State	:-0.5356
85.	Tennessee	:-0.5672
86.	West Virginia	:-0.5742
87.	Old Dominion	:-0.5865
88.	South Alabama	:-0.6248
89.	Indiana	:-0.6640
90.	Louisiana Tech	:-0.7219
91.	Texas Christian	:-0.7475
92.	Nevada	:-0.8286
93.	New Mexico	:-0.8356
94.	Southern Methodist	:-0.8957
95.	Central Michigan	:-0.9409
96.	Illinois	:-0.9540
97.	Arkansas	:-1.0915
98.	Colorado	:-1.1043
99.	Akron	:-1.1231
100.	Tulsa	:-1.1878
101.	North Carolina State	:-1.2146
102.	Alabama-Birmingham	:-1.2448
103.	Army	:-1.2661
104.	Kent	:-1.4780
105.	South Florida	:-1.4867
106.	Air Force	:-1.5080
107.	Kentucky	:-1.5090
108.	Kansas	:-1.5195
109.	Temple	:-1.5795
110.	Eastern Michigan	:-1.5799
111.	Memphis	:-1.6078
112.	Virginia	:-1.6253
113.	Idaho	:-1.6443
114.	Iowa State	:-1.6792
115.	Texas-El Paso	:-1.7545
116.	Hawaii	:-1.8198
117.	Western Michigan	:-1.8561
118.	Massachusetts	:-1.8855
119.	Southern Mississippi	:-1.9267
120.	Florida International	:-1.9447
121.	Purdue	:-2.0668
122.	California	:-2.1924
123.	Miami (Ohio)	:-2.2930
124.	New Mexico State	:-2.2984
125.	Connecticut	:-2.3464
126.	Georgia State	:-2.7058

# ? Nov 12, 2013 02:00

dirty shrimp money: Jan 8, 2001

Second version of this week's poll, I forgot to control for teams that have only played 8 games. Still gently caress Art Briles tho.

pre:

#	LW	Team		Record	Score
1	1	Florida State	9-0	3.1092
2	6	Baylor		8-0	3.0433
3	3	Alabama		9-0	2.9504
4	4	Ohio State	9-0	2.5603
5	7	Stanford	8-1	2.4665
6	2	Oregon		8-1	2.3575
7	5	Missouri	9-1	2.1629
8	20	UCF		7-1	2.1317
9	10	Louisville	8-1	2.0492
10	11	Auburn		9-1	1.8848
11	8	Clemson		8-1	1.8817
12	9	Michigan State	8-1	1.8377
13	14	Arizona State	7-2	1.8023
14	15	Wisconsin	7-2	1.7880
15	12	Oklahoma State	8-1	1.6199
16	17	Northern Ill.	9-0	1.6124
17	22	Fresno State	9-0	1.5244
18	27	Ball State	9-1	1.4215
19	13	Oklahoma	7-2	1.4186
20	23	Texas A&M	8-2	1.3667
21	39	Virginia Tech	7-3	1.3412
22	19	Houston		7-2	1.3231
23	21	South Carolina	7-2	1.2983
24	25	UCLA		7-2	1.2948
25	16	Miami (FL)	7-2	1.2641

pre:

#	LW	Team		Record	Score
26	35	Washington	6-3	1.2455
27	18	LSU		7-3	1.2393
28	40	Buffalo		7-2	1.2095
29	26	Texas		7-2	1.1930
30	31	Minnesota	8-2	1.1624
31	37	East Carolina	7-2	1.1192
32	43	North Texas	7-3	1.0716
33	24	BYU		6-3	1.0594
34	32	Duke		7-2	1.0401
35	42	Ole Miss	6-3	0.9957
36	50	Georgia		6-3	0.9851
37	34	Cincinnati	7-2	0.9791
38	36	USC		7-3	0.9490
39	38	La.-Lafayette	7-2	0.9246
40	49	Marshall	6-3	0.9140
41	28	Notre Dame	7-3	0.9140
42	44	Nebraska	7-2	0.9109
43	53	Bowling Green	6-3	0.8522
44	41	Georgia Tech	6-3	0.8495
45	29	Texas Tech	7-3	0.8484
46	33	Michigan	6-3	0.8131
47	30	Arizona		6-3	0.7927
48	54	Old Dominion*	7-3	0.7545
49	45	Utah State	6-4	0.7390
50	47	Toledo		6-3	0.7361
51	51	Boise State	6-3	0.6717
52	48	Ohio U		6-3	0.6679
53	58	Iowa		6-4	0.6567
54	52	Rice		6-3	0.6448
55	46	Oregon State	6-3	0.6370
56	56	Texas State	6-3	0.4957
57	62	Vanderbilt	5-4	0.4484
58	63	Middle Tenn.	6-4	0.4330
59	73	Kansas State	5-4	0.4323
60	75	Pittsburgh	5-4	0.4021
61	55	Tulane		6-4	0.3499
62	64	Rutgers		5-3	0.3299
63	66	Navy		5-4	0.3009
64	70	Arkansas State	5-4	0.2820
65	57	Penn State	5-4	0.2782
66	72	Western Ky.	6-4	0.2200
67	76	Syracuse	5-4	0.2174
68	71	Boston College	5-4	0.1937
69	60	San Jose State	5-4	0.1607
70	59	Maryland	5-4	0.1483
71	83	Colorado State	5-5	0.0357
72	69	Utah		4-5	0.0100
73	65	Mississippi St.	4-5	0.0058
74	67	UNLV		5-5	-0.0091
75	77	Northwestern	4-5	-0.0214
76	86	San Diego St.	5-4	-0.0361
77	61	Florida		4-5	-0.0430
78	79	Washington St.	4-5	-0.0492
79	84	North Carolina	4-5	-0.0497
80	85	Indiana		4-5	-0.0840
81	78	Tennessee	4-6	-0.1186
82	80	Troy		5-5	-0.1294
83	91	UTSA		5-5	-0.1350
84	68	Wyoming		4-5	-0.1420
85	74	West Virginia	4-6	-0.1497
86	98	Louisiana Tech	4-5	-0.1684
87	81	La.-Monroe	5-5	-0.1979
88	90	TCU		4-6	-0.2206
89	82	Wake Forest	4-6	-0.3250
90	88	NC State	3-6	-0.3294
91	97	Florida Atl.	3-6	-0.3665
92	92	South Alabama	3-5	-0.3774
93	93	Illinois	3-6	-0.4283
94	87	SMU		3-5	-0.4390
95	89	Colorado	3-6	-0.4658
96	94	Nevada		3-7	-0.4855
97	103	New Mexico	3-6	-0.4870
98	95	Kentucky	2-7	-0.4968
99	104	Akron		3-7	-0.5027
100	96	Army		3-7	-0.5464
101	101	Arkansas	3-7	-0.5524
102	99	Central Mich.	3-6	-0.5562
103	100	Kansas		2-7	-0.5683
104	108	Memphis		2-6	-0.5915
105	102	Virginia	2-8	-0.6909
106	105	South Florida	2-6	-0.7218
107	109	Tulsa		2-7	-0.8668
108	115	Kent State	2-8	-0.8747
109	110	Purdue		1-8	-0.8791
110	106	UAB		2-7	-0.8814
111	107	Iowa State	1-8	-0.9371
112	120	Eastern Mich.	2-8	-0.9676
113	112	California	1-9	-0.9749
114	114	Temple		1-8	-0.9886
115	119	Idaho		1-9	-1.0189
116	111	Air Force	2-8	-1.0430

pre:

#	LW	Team		Record	Score
117	117	Massachusetts	1-8	-1.0807
118	118	Florida Intl.	1-8	-1.1567
119	116	UTEP		1-8	-1.1808
120	123	New Mexico St.	1-9	-1.2265
121	121	Hawaii		0-9	-1.2839
122	113	Connecticut	0-8	-1.3165
123	125	Western Mich.	1-9	-1.3490
124	122	Southern Miss	0-9	-1.4031
125	124	Miami (OH)	0-9	-1.4665
126	126	Georgia State*	0-9	-1.7853

Conference Rank
1. SEC
2. Pac 12
3. Big 10
4. ACC
5. Big 12
6. American
7. MAC
8. Sun Belt
9. Mountain West
10. Conference USA

dirty shrimp money fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Nov 13, 2013

# ? Nov 13, 2013 16:19

MC Fruit Stripe: Nov 26, 2002; around and around we go

Captain von Trapp posted:

Man, quiet thread this year.

wa27 posted:

Every week I keep thinking I'll finally get motivated and run my poll, and every week I don't bother.

Maybe this will be the week.

Basil Hayden posted:

I know that feeling. At least you didn't start the thread promising to do summary posts, then discover you'd broken your poll and just can't be assed to fix it.

Maybe I'll make it up by going on a retrorating kick in the offseason, I don't know.

The NCAA ended my poll by changing the way stats are presented on their page.

My poll was originally meant to give the true rankings of the team because no one else was doing it, but now that other people are doing it correctly, I don't need to worry about it, which is a nice change from the days when I spent 3 hours a week on the poll. I can read other people's work to know how teams are ranked instead of feeling like I need to do it myself.

# ? Nov 18, 2013 00:26

Captain von Trapp: Jan 23, 2006; I don't like it, and I'm sorry I ever had anything to do with it.

Fortunately mine is still pretty easy to run. It's about a 5-minute process to finagle the CFBStats.com data into last year's format, but one way or another, here's this week's poll & DIVISIONB pastebin.

code:

1 	 Florida State 	 76.43
2 	 Alabama 	 73.71
3 	 Baylor 	 71.7
4 	 Oregon 	 69.64
5 	 Ohio State 	 66.74
6 	 Missouri 	 66.61
7 	 Wisconsin 	 64.85
8 	 Stanford 	 63.39
9 	 Texas A&M 	 62.95
10 	 Clemson 	 62.76
11 	 Arizona State 	 62.32
12 	 LSU 	 61.69
13 	 Auburn 	 61.59
14 	 Mississippi 	 59.62
15 	 UCLA 	 59.26
16 	 Oklahoma State 	 59.15
17 	 Georgia 	 58.7
18 	 South Carolina 	 58.69
19 	 Michigan State 	 58.63
20 	 USC 	 57.37
21 	 Washington 	 57.14
22 	 BYU 	 56.89
23 	 Louisville 	 56.31
24 	 North Dakota State 	 55.78
25 	 Kansas State 	 55.52
26 	 Vanderbilt 	 55.33
27 	 Virginia Tech 	 54.2
28 	 Utah 	 54.18
29 	 Oklahoma 	 54.01
30 	 Florida 	 53.99
31 	 Northern Illinois 	 53.65
32 	 Duke 	 53.6
33 	 Georgia Tech 	 53.36
34 	 UCF 	 53.32
35 	 Iowa 	 53.18
36 	 Texas 	 52.95
37 	 Oregon State 	 52.61
38 	 Miami (Florida) 	 52.58
39 	 Arizona 	 52.3
40 	 Houston 	 51.96
41 	 Eastern Illinois 	 51.89
42 	 Notre Dame 	 51.7
43 	 Michigan 	 51.7
44 	 McNeese State 	 51.58
45 	 East Carolina 	 51.57
46 	 Washington State 	 51.33
47 	 Minnesota 	 50.7
48 	 Texas Tech 	 50.4
49 	 Tennessee 	 50.38
50 	 North Carolina 	 50.25
51 	 Indiana 	 50.22
52 	 Boston College 	 50.07
53 	 Mississippi State 	 49.81
54 	 Boise State 	 49.78
55 	 Toledo 	 49.7
56 	 Northwestern 	 49.09
57 	 Buffalo 	 48.93
58 	 Pittsburgh 	 48.93
59 	 Nebraska 	 48.75
60 	 Bowling Green 	 48.62
61 	 Northern Iowa 	 48.6
62 	 Utah State 	 48.53
63 	 Penn State 	 48.04
64 	 Fresno State 	 47.99
65 	 Syracuse 	 47.96
66 	 Ball State 	 47.65
67 	 Navy 	 47.13
68 	 North Texas 	 47.02
69 	 Eastern Washington 	 46.95
70 	 TCU 	 46.94
71 	 Chattanooga 	 46.01
72 	 Maryland 	 45.76
73 	 Wake Forest 	 45.17
74 	 Marshall 	 45.1
75 	 Stony Brook 	 44.74
76 	 Arkansas 	 44.59
77 	 Towson 	 44.57
78 	 Cincinnati 	 44.14
79 	 Rice 	 44.02
80 	 Louisiana-Lafayette 	 44.0
81 	 Iowa State 	 43.11
82 	 Illinois 	 42.99
83 	 West Virginia 	 42.93
84 	 Colorado 	 42.32
85 	 Florida Atlantic 	 42.12
86 	 Memphis 	 42.07
87 	 Virginia 	 42.0
88 	 Ohio 	 41.47
89 	 Tulane 	 41.44
90 	 Rutgers 	 41.14
91 	 Arkansas State 	 41.12
92 	 Middle Tennessee 	 40.95
93 	 Kentucky 	 40.94
94 	 Western Kentucky 	 40.6
95 	 SMU 	 40.54
96 	 North Carolina State 	 40.02
97 	 Colorado State 	 39.96
98 	 San Diego State 	 39.83
99 	 UTSA 	 39.65
100 	 Bethune-Cookman 	 39.65
101 	 South Alabama 	 39.5
102 	 Montana State 	 39.08
103 	 Villanova 	 38.63
104 	 San Jose State 	 38.28
105 	 Kansas 	 38.18
106 	 Southeast Missouri State 	 38.14
107 	 Richmond 	 37.65
108 	 Missouri State 	 37.65
109 	 Wofford 	 37.31
110 	 UNLV 	 37.27
111 	 Louisiana-Monroe 	 37.26
112 	 Fordham 	 37.11
113 	 Southern Utah 	 36.81
114 	 Nevada 	 36.75
115 	 Troy 	 36.68
116 	 Florida A&M 	 36.59
117 	 Maine 	 36.51
118 	 Tennessee Tech 	 36.06
119 	 Temple 	 36.04
120 	 South Florida 	 35.7
121 	 South Carolina State 	 35.6
122 	 Sam Houston State 	 35.53
123 	 Old Dominion 	 35.5
124 	 Furman 	 35.29
125 	 William & Mary 	 35.23
126 	 Akron 	 35.11
127 	 Texas State 	 34.92
128 	 Samford 	 34.91
129 	 Youngstown State 	 34.61
130 	 Southern Illinois 	 34.56
131 	 California 	 34.51
132 	 Wyoming 	 34.43
133 	 Tulsa 	 34.28
134 	 Eastern Kentucky 	 34.13
135 	 Appalachian State 	 33.61
136 	 James Madison 	 33.6
137 	 Kent State 	 33.22
138 	 Jacksonville State 	 33.1
139 	 N.C. Central 	 32.14
140 	 Hawai'i 	 32.0
141 	 Connecticut 	 31.89
142 	 Army 	 31.79
143 	 Southern University 	 31.57
144 	 Elon 	 31.42
145 	 Purdue 	 31.4
146 	 Central Michigan 	 31.34
147 	 Illinois State 	 31.12
148 	 Northern Arizona 	 31.07
149 	 New Mexico 	 31.05
150 	 Air Force 	 30.43
151 	 Stephen F. Austin 	 29.94
152 	 Central Arkansas 	 29.86
153 	 Southeastern Louisiana 	 29.73
154 	 Idaho State 	 29.63
155 	 New Hampshire 	 29.4
156 	 South Dakota State 	 29.3
157 	 Alcorn St. 	 29.07
158 	 Louisiana Tech 	 28.96
159 	 UAB 	 28.77
160 	 Murray State 	 28.67
161 	 Wagner 	 28.48
162 	 Delaware 	 28.4
163 	 Presbyterian 	 28.31
164 	 Cal Poly 	 27.98
165 	 Massachusetts 	 27.86
166 	 Portland State 	 27.83
167 	 Gardner-Webb 	 27.75
168 	 Liberty 	 27.59
169 	 Tennessee-Martin 	 26.91
170 	 Nicholls State 	 26.74
171 	 UTEP 	 26.16
172 	 Jackson State 	 25.85
173 	 Weber State 	 25.85
174 	 Georgia State 	 25.52
175 	 Indiana State 	 25.17
176 	 Charleston So. 	 25.11
177 	 South Dakota 	 25.05
178 	 Arkansas-Pine Bluff 	 24.88
179 	 Idaho 	 24.87
180 	 Norfolk State 	 24.72
181 	 Western Michigan 	 24.27
182 	 Virginia Military 	 24.06
183 	 Western Carolina 	 24.01
184 	 Alabama St. 	 23.7
185 	 Western Illinois 	 23.65
186 	 Sacramento State 	 23.11
187 	 Eastern Michigan 	 22.8
188 	 UC Davis 	 22.12
189 	 Grambling 	 22.06
190 	 Prairie View A&M 	 21.45
191 	 Austin Peay 	 21.16
192 	 Miami (Ohio) 	 20.72
193 	 Northern Colorado 	 20.65
194 	 Lamar 	 19.75
195 	 Savannah State 	 19.69
196 	 New Mexico State 	 18.91
197 	 Morgan State 	 18.32
198 	 Florida International 	 17.65
199 	 Colgate 	 17.62
200 	 Southern Mississippi 	 17.53
201 	 Howard 	 16.94
202 	 Northwestern State 	 14.79

# ? Nov 18, 2013 01:26

dirty shrimp money: Jan 8, 2001

I gotta look into why UCF and Ohio State got thrown back so far. It can't just be strength of schedule (though OSU's is pretty poor). Something's not right.

pre:

#	LW	Team		Record	Score
1	1	Florida State	10-0	3.2647
2	3	Alabama		10-0	2.9809
3	2	Baylor		9-0	2.8562
4	6	Oregon		9-1	2.4180
5	9	Louisville	9-1	2.2297
6	5	Stanford	8-2	2.2071
7	7	Missouri	9-1	2.1302
8	11	Clemson		9-1	2.0267
9	14	Wisconsin	8-2	2.0226
10	13	Arizona State	8-2	2.0218
11	15	Oklahoma State	9-1	1.9649
12	10	Auburn		10-1	1.9576
13	12	Michigan State	9-1	1.9462
14	8	UCF		8-1	1.9142
15	4	Ohio State	10-0	1.7425
16	16	Northern Ill.	10-0	1.7246
17	17	Fresno State	9-0	1.6810
18	19	Oklahoma	8-2	1.5960
19	24	UCLA		8-2	1.4516
20	23	South Carolina	8-2	1.4113
21	20	Texas A&M	8-2	1.3707
22	52	Ohio U		6-4	1.3132
23	33	BYU		7-3	1.2999
24	31	East Carolina	8-2	1.2882
25	34	Duke		8-2	1.2753

pre:

#	LW	Team		Record	Score
26	27	LSU		7-3	1.2518
27	22	Houston		7-3	1.2459
28	38	USC		8-3	1.2236
29	35	Ole Miss	7-3	1.2181
30	30	Minnesota	8-2	1.1512
31	37	Cincinnati	8-2	1.1315
32	18	Ball State	9-2	1.1209
33	43	Bowling Green	7-3	1.0932
34	32	North Texas	7-3	1.0680
35	25	Miami (FL)	7-3	1.0400
36	39	Louisiana-Laf.	8-2	1.0353
37	21	Virginia Tech	7-4	1.0153
38	29	Texas		7-3	1.0053
39	28	Buffalo		7-3	0.9551
40	46	Michigan	7-3	0.9545
41	40	Marshall	7-3	0.9454
42	26	Washington	6-4	0.9440
43	41	Notre Dame	7-3	0.9187
44	50	Toledo		7-3	0.9184
45	54	Rice		7-3	0.8717
46	51	Boise State	7-3	0.8701
47	48	Old Dominion 	8-3	0.7997
48	49	Utah State	6-4	0.7417
49	36	Georgia		6-4	0.7388
50	57	Vanderbilt	6-4	0.6677
51	53	Iowa		6-4	0.6621
52	42	Nebraska	7-3	0.5900
53	47	Arizona		6-4	0.5633
54	45	Texas Tech	7-4	0.5568
55	59	Kansas State	6-4	0.5562
56	44	Georgia Tech	6-4	0.5447
57	65	Penn State	6-4	0.4858
58	63	Navy		6-4	0.4692
59	55	Oregon State	6-4	0.4398
60	64	Arkansas State	6-4	0.4320
61	58	Middle Tenn.	6-4	0.4233
62	68	Boston College	6-4	0.3863
63	61	Tulane		6-4	0.3468
64	56	Texas State	6-4	0.3423
65	70	Maryland	6-4	0.2767
66	66	Western Ky.	6-4	0.2209
67	60	Pittsburgh	5-5	0.1964
68	71	Colorado State	6-5	0.1877
69	76	San Diego State	6-4	0.0793
70	78	Washington St.	5-5	0.0552
71	62	Rutgers		5-4	0.0184
72	74	UNLV		5-5	-0.0092
73	79	North Carolina	5-5	-0.0275
74	69	San Jose State	5-5	-0.0317
75	67	Syracuse	5-5	-0.0406
76	83	UTSA		5-5	-0.0724
77	73	Mississippi St.	4-6	-0.0960
78	81	Tennessee	4-6	-0.1198
79	72	Utah		4-6	-0.1329
80	75	Northwestern	4-6	-0.1571
81	77	Florida		4-6	-0.1814
82	87	La.-Monroe	5-5	-0.1995
83	91	Fl. Atlantic	4-6	-0.2148
84	94	SMU		4-5	-0.2207
85	85	West Virginia	4-7	-0.2560
86	80	Indiana		4-6	-0.2562
87	82	Troy		5-6	-0.3063
88	89	Wake Forest	4-6	-0.3237
89	88	TCU		4-7	-0.3303
90	95	Colorado	4-6	-0.3510
91	84	Wyoming		4-6	-0.3548
92	99	Akron		4-7	-0.3849
93	90	NC State	3-7	-0.3861
94	104	Memphis		3-6	-0.3914
95	96	Nevada		4-7	-0.3954
96	86	Louisiana Tech	4-6	-0.4392
97	103	Kansas		3-7	-0.4827
98	93	Illinois	3-7	-0.5164
99	102	Central Mich.	4-6	-0.5344
100	101	Arkansas	3-7	-0.5442
101	100	Army		3-7	-0.5444
102	92	South Alabama	3-6	-0.5762
103	98	Kentucky	2-8	-0.6546
104	105	Virginia	2-8	-0.6909
105	108	Kent State	3-8	-0.7102
106	106	South Florida	2-7	-0.8349
107	120	New Mexico St.	1-9	-0.9142
108	107	Tulsa		2-8	-0.9284
109	97	New Mexico	3-7	-0.9289
110	112	Eastern Mich.	2-8	-0.9673
111	109	Purdue		1-9	-0.9902
112	110	UAB		2-8	-1.0160
113	113	California	1-10	-1.0179
114	115	Idaho		1-9	-1.0189
115	114	Temple		1-9	-1.0245
116	111	Iowa State	1-9	-1.0397

pre:

#	LW	Team		Record	Score
117	116	Air Force	2-8	-1.0540
118	119	UTEP		2-8	-1.0598
119	117	Massachusetts	1-9	-1.2631
120	123	Western Mich.	1-10	-1.3401
121	122	Connecticut	0-9	-1.3422
122	118	Fl. Intl.	1-9	-1.3893
123	121	Hawaii		0-10	-1.4327
124	124	Southern Miss	0-10	-1.6725
125	125	Miami (OH)	0-10	-1.6971
126	126	Georgia State 	0-10	-1.8558

# ? Nov 18, 2013 05:11

Tad SG: Apr 16, 2003; Here are provided seats of meditative joy, where shall rise again the destined reign of Troy.

Here's mine. I've got the opposite problem and need to do some tweaking to do based on UCF getting a big bump for beating 1 win Temple.

code:

1.	Alabama	:2.0391
2.	Florida State	:2.0190
3.	Baylor	:1.9263
4.	Ohio State	:1.6232
5.	Oregon	:1.5782
6.	Northern Illinois	:1.5447
7.	Central Florida	:1.5142
8.	Fresno State	:1.4869
9.	Missouri	:1.4283
10.	Oklahoma State	:1.4072
11.	Auburn	:1.3713
12.	Louisville	:1.3488
13.	Michigan State	:1.3472
14.	Stanford	:1.3455
15.	Clemson	:1.3451
16.	UCLA	:1.2337
17.	Arizona State	:1.2252
18.	South Carolina	:1.1815
19.	East Carolina	:1.1736
20.	Wisconsin	:1.1199
21.	Oklahoma	:1.0851
22.	Louisiana-Lafayette	:1.0106
23.	Ball State	:0.9810
24.	Southern California	:0.9334
25.	Cincinnati	:0.9093
26.	Houston	:0.8767
27.	North Texas	:0.8667
28.	Minnesota	:0.8063
29.	Texas A&M	:0.8012
30.	Marshall	:0.7619
31.	Louisiana State	:0.7527
32.	Brigham Young	:0.7433
33.	Texas	:0.7352
34.	Duke	:0.7310
35.	Notre Dame	:0.7281
36.	Rice	:0.7256
37.	Michigan	:0.6861
38.	Boise State	:0.6662
39.	Bowling Green State	:0.5323
40.	Mississippi	:0.5197
41.	Buffalo	:0.5049
42.	Miami (Florida)	:0.4970
43.	Toledo	:0.4552
44.	Virginia Tech	:0.4450
45.	Arizona	:0.3879
46.	Washington	:0.3859
47.	Nebraska	:0.3485
48.	Navy	:0.3369
49.	Georgia	:0.3343
50.	Georgia Tech	:0.3265
51.	Utah State	:0.3139
52.	Texas Tech	:0.2811
53.	Penn State	:0.2497
54.	Oregon State	:0.2154
55.	Maryland	:0.1898
56.	Vanderbilt	:0.1646
57.	Kansas State	:0.1428
58.	Boston College	:0.1078
59.	Syracuse	:0.1063
60.	Tulane	:0.0929
61.	Texas State	:0.0728
62.	Ohio	:0.0696
63.	San Diego State	:0.0641
64.	Middle Tennessee State	:0.0203
65.	Arkansas State	:0.0199
66.	Western Kentucky	:0.0108
67.	Washington State	:-0.0167
68.	Florida Atlantic	:-0.0536
69.	North Carolina	:-0.0950
70.	Texas-San Antonio	:-0.0979
71.	Colorado State	:-0.1022
72.	Iowa	:-0.1029
73.	Pittsburgh	:-0.1276
74.	Florida	:-0.1471
75.	Rutgers	:-0.2145
76.	San Jose State	:-0.2839
77.	Troy	:-0.3896
78.	Wake Forest	:-0.4301
79.	Utah	:-0.4781
80.	Wyoming	:-0.5138
81.	Louisiana-Monroe	:-0.5228
82.	Nevada-Las Vegas	:-0.5416
83.	Old Dominion	:-0.5436
84.	Tennessee	:-0.5634
85.	Nevada	:-0.5880
86.	West Virginia	:-0.6181
87.	Southern Methodist	:-0.6557
88.	Northwestern	:-0.6585
89.	South Alabama	:-0.6850
90.	Central Michigan	:-0.6955
91.	Mississippi State	:-0.7241
92.	Indiana	:-0.7298
93.	Texas Christian	:-0.7962
94.	Louisiana Tech	:-0.8098
95.	Colorado	:-0.8571
96.	Akron	:-0.8790
97.	New Mexico	:-1.0834
98.	Arkansas	:-1.0915
99.	Illinois	:-1.0926
100.	Memphis	:-1.1324
101.	North Carolina State	:-1.2035
102.	Alabama-Birmingham	:-1.2161
103.	Kent	:-1.2227
104.	Kansas	:-1.2255
105.	Army	:-1.2531
106.	Tulsa	:-1.3437
107.	Texas-El Paso	:-1.4078
108.	Air Force	:-1.4938
109.	Kentucky	:-1.5218
110.	Eastern Michigan	:-1.5910
111.	Iowa State	:-1.6196
112.	Temple	:-1.6240
113.	Idaho	:-1.6459
114.	Virginia	:-1.6586
115.	South Florida	:-1.6778
116.	Florida International	:-1.8870
117.	Hawaii	:-1.8908
118.	Western Michigan	:-1.9276
119.	Massachusetts	:-1.9341
120.	Purdue	:-2.0334
121.	Southern Mississippi	:-2.0478
122.	California	:-2.1231
123.	Connecticut	:-2.2455
124.	Miami (Ohio)	:-2.2513
125.	New Mexico State	:-2.2531
126.	Georgia State	:-2.7473

# ? Nov 19, 2013 00:30

wa27: Jan 15, 2007

Alright, I finally got around to running my poll for the past 12 weeks.

quote:

Description
This ranking is an attempt to rank teams according to how bettors see them, rather than looking at their stats and win/loss records. It is often the case that two teams may be ranked closely in a voted poll, but when they play each other, the point spread is larger than their rankings would indicate. Each week, this poll looks at the upcoming matchup and makes a point spread prediction. This spread is then compared to the actual point spread, and a team's points are adjusted based on the difference. In theory, the point spread guesses will become closer and closer to the actual spreads as the weeks pass, resulting in a more accurate ranking of teams.

Details
Each team has a point value, initially determined by the results of the 2012 poll. The point spread prediction is made using the formula Team B points - Team A points. If the game is a home game for Team A, 3 points are subtracted. If it is an away game, those points are added instead. Note that a prediction is only made for Division 1 teams playing Division 1 teams. If a team is playing a cupcake or has no game, this will be noted on the sheet and their points will not change.

A team's new points for the current week are set with the following formula:
Old Score + (Predicted Spread - Actual Spread)*x, Where x is the Spread Influence variable.

The story of the season so far is Oregon took #1 from Bama in week 4 and has held it since then. They stayed a heavy favorite against Utah so they haven't dropped since the Stanford loss. The top four teams have been pretty far ahead of the rest until this week, when Ohio State jumped up closer to that group.

My poll is really starting to show it's bias towards high-scoring teams this year thanks to Baylor, Oregon, and FSU.

Tidbits:

-This week the poll predicted the spreads of each game to within an average difference of 3.64 points. Not spectacular because it was averaging around 3.00 in the later weeks of 2012. I didn't make any changes to the formula this year.

-FSU will probably lose points next week. My poll is predicting the spread to be a whopping -62.73, while the actual spread is "only" -56.5. This is an extreme example of how lopsided games have too much of an influence on my rankings. They'll only lose a point or two, but I should probably change the poll next year to have the influence variable scale down as the spread goes up.

code:

Rank	Team Name	Pts.
1	Oregon	58.70
2	Baylor	58.56
3	Florida State	57.85
4	Alabama	56.86
5	Ohio State	53.45
6	Texas AM	48.87
7	Wisconsin	47.52
8	LSU	46.13
9	South Carolina	45.11
10	Oklahoma State	44.90
11	Oklahoma	44.78
12	Clemson	44.38
13	Stanford	43.70
14	Arizona State	43.07
15	Louisville	42.86
16	Georgia	42.31
17	Washington	41.60
18	UCLA	41.01
19	Michigan State	40.74
20	Auburn	40.68
21	Kansas State	40.22
22	Missouri	39.10
23	Texas	38.94
24	Mississippi	38.64
25	BYU	37.48
26	Michigan	36.77
27	Boise State	36.49
28	Georgia Tech	36.45
29	Notre Dame	36.30
30	Southern Cal	36.25
31	Miami (FL)	36.18
32	Virginia Tech	35.99
33	Florida	35.93
34	Arizona	35.59
35	Texas Tech	35.53
36	Northwestern	35.48
37	Central Florida	35.10
38	Oregon State	34.02
39	Nebraska	33.77
40	Texas Christian	33.59
41	Fresno State	33.25
42	Utah State	32.93
43	Utah	32.73
44	Iowa	32.68
45	East Carolina	32.34
46	Penn State	31.98
47	Northern Illinois	31.92
48	Marshall	31.88
49	Vanderbilt	31.52
50	Mississippi State	31.14
51	North Carolina	30.90
52	Cincinnati	30.10
53	Pittsburgh	28.77
54	Tennessee	28.64
55	Duke	28.40
56	Minnesota	28.25
57	West Virginia	27.88
58	Houston	27.62
59	Indiana	26.81
60	Bowling Green State	26.80
61	Washington State	26.58
62	Toledo	26.41
63	Ball State	26.21
64	Maryland	25.89
65	Boston College	25.75
66	Arkansas	25.59
67	San Jose State	25.26
68	North Texas	25.13
69	Louisiana-Lafayette	25.01
70	Iowa State	24.61
71	Rice	24.19
72	Southern Methodist	23.78
73	Syracuse	23.73
74	Colorado State	23.43
75	Navy	23.00
76	Kentucky	22.80
77	Rutgers	22.39
78	SUNY-Buffalo	22.32
79	Virginia	22.21
80	North Carolina State	21.58
81	San Diego State	21.29
82	Ohio	21.15
83	Wake Forest	20.80
84	Illinois	20.38
85	Memphis	20.26
86	Western Kentucky	19.72
87	Air Force	18.83
88	Texas-San Antonio	18.54
89	South Alabama	18.28
90	Wyoming	17.86
91	Kansas	17.43
92	Tulsa	17.37
93	Arkansas State	16.56
94	Nevada	16.35
95	California	16.29
96	Middle Tennessee St.	16.21
97	Florida Atlantic	15.97
98	South Florida	15.22
99	Louisiana-Monroe	15.04
100	Colorado	14.95
101	New Mexico	14.72
102	UNLV	14.43
103	Temple	14.02
104	Troy	13.99
105	Purdue	13.94
106	Kent State	13.89
107	Connecticut	13.40
108	Louisiana Tech	13.35
109	Tulane	13.06
110	Akron	12.08
111	Texas State	12.03
112	Hawaii	11.93
113	Central Michigan	9.36
114	Army	9.18
115	UAB	8.42
116	Western Michigan	4.31
117	UTEP	3.74
118	Massachusetts	2.28
119	Eastern Michigan	0.96
120	Florida Intl	0.66
121	Georgia State	0.35
122	Miami (OH)	-0.72
123	New Mexico State	-1.29
124	Southern Miss	-1.35
125	Idaho	-1.88

Does anyone have that link that converts poorly aligned tabbed tables into nice tables?

# ? Nov 19, 2013 02:37

Tad SG: Apr 16, 2003; Here are provided seats of meditative joy, where shall rise again the destined reign of Troy.

Uh oh - Bama got hit hard with the FCS tax, FSU jumped them to #1

code:

1.	Florida State	:1.9579
2.	Alabama	:1.8538
3.	Ohio State	:1.6514
4.	Northern Illinois	:1.6328
5.	Baylor	:1.5707
6.	Central Florida	:1.5204
7.	Oklahoma State	:1.5066
8.	Fresno State	:1.4927
9.	Missouri	:1.4920
10.	Michigan State	:1.4362
11.	Stanford	:1.3622
12.	Auburn	:1.3504
13.	Louisville	:1.3271
14.	Oregon	:1.3243
15.	Arizona State	:1.3043
16.	East Carolina	:1.2437
17.	Wisconsin	:1.2342
18.	Oklahoma	:1.2109
19.	Clemson	:1.2022
20.	Cincinnati	:1.0751
21.	South Carolina	:1.0717
22.	Southern California	:1.0584
23.	Louisiana-Lafayette	:1.0047
24.	Ball State	:0.9796
25.	UCLA	:0.9467
26.	Marshall	:0.9264
27.	Louisiana State	:0.8862
28.	Rice	:0.8413
29.	Notre Dame	:0.8393
30.	Duke	:0.8307
31.	Texas	:0.7410
32.	Bowling Green State	:0.6771
33.	Buffalo	:0.6437
34.	Houston	:0.5788
35.	Texas A&M	:0.5779
36.	North Texas	:0.5738
37.	Washington	:0.5717
38.	Miami (Florida)	:0.5702
39.	Brigham Young	:0.5545
40.	Boise State	:0.5456
41.	Arizona	:0.5385
42.	Navy	:0.5360
43.	Nebraska	:0.5292
44.	Michigan	:0.5233
45.	Minnesota	:0.4984
46.	Virginia Tech	:0.4371
47.	Georgia	:0.4301
48.	Utah State	:0.3868
49.	Vanderbilt	:0.3043
50.	Georgia Tech	:0.2938
51.	Texas Tech	:0.2901
52.	Boston College	:0.2616
53.	Western Kentucky	:0.2518
54.	Mississippi	:0.2441
55.	Tulane	:0.2254
56.	Toledo	:0.1769
57.	Middle Tennessee State	:0.1758
58.	San Diego State	:0.1681
59.	Washington State	:0.1411
60.	Arkansas State	:0.1125
61.	Texas-San Antonio	:0.0962
62.	Florida Atlantic	:0.0922
63.	North Carolina	:0.0631
64.	Pittsburgh	:0.0592
65.	Iowa	:0.0311
66.	Penn State	:0.0288
67.	Oregon State	:-0.0367
68.	Maryland	:-0.0451
69.	Kansas State	:-0.1037
70.	Syracuse	:-0.1320
71.	Texas State	:-0.2365
72.	Ohio	:-0.2378
73.	Colorado State	:-0.2614
74.	Nevada-Las Vegas	:-0.2777
75.	Rutgers	:-0.2797
76.	Southern Methodist	:-0.3489
77.	Troy	:-0.3908
78.	Wyoming	:-0.3990
79.	South Alabama	:-0.4354
80.	San Jose State	:-0.4682
81.	Florida	:-0.4971
82.	Mississippi State	:-0.5040
83.	Central Michigan	:-0.5145
84.	Nevada	:-0.6006
85.	Utah	:-0.6079
86.	Wake Forest	:-0.6106
87.	West Virginia	:-0.6312
88.	Old Dominion	:-0.6444
89.	Louisiana-Monroe	:-0.6684
90.	Tennessee	:-0.7318
91.	Texas Christian	:-0.8001
92.	Indiana	:-0.8037
93.	Illinois	:-0.8487
94.	Northwestern	:-0.8525
95.	Akron	:-0.8974
96.	Kent	:-0.9230
97.	Tulsa	:-1.0411
98.	Colorado	:-1.0600
99.	New Mexico	:-1.0727
100.	Louisiana Tech	:-1.0734
101.	Memphis	:-1.0993
102.	Arkansas	:-1.2139
103.	Army	:-1.2589
104.	Alabama-Birmingham	:-1.2986
105.	Iowa State	:-1.3229
106.	Kansas	:-1.3461
107.	North Carolina State	:-1.3493
108.	Texas-El Paso	:-1.3832
109.	Kentucky	:-1.5605
110.	Idaho	:-1.6104
111.	Virginia	:-1.6135
112.	Air Force	:-1.6242
113.	Eastern Michigan	:-1.7602
114.	Hawaii	:-1.7725
115.	Temple	:-1.7804
116.	South Florida	:-1.8068
117.	Massachusetts	:-1.8827
118.	Connecticut	:-1.8867
119.	Western Michigan	:-1.9304
120.	Florida International	:-1.9860
121.	Purdue	:-2.0819
122.	California	:-2.0872
123.	New Mexico State	:-2.1380
124.	Southern Mississippi	:-2.1643
125.	Miami (Ohio)	:-2.2750
126.	Georgia State	:-2.6176

# ? Nov 25, 2013 20:42

Bird in a Blender: Nov 17, 2005; It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

The NCAA ended my poll by changing the way stats are presented on their page.

My poll was originally meant to give the true rankings of the team because no one else was doing it, but now that other people are doing it correctly, I don't need to worry about it, which is a nice change from the days when I spent 3 hours a week on the poll. I can read other people's work to know how teams are ranked instead of feeling like I need to do it myself.

Glad I'm not the only one this happened to. I might still run my poll at the end of the year if I can figure out how to impore the stats. I also haven't had the free time I did last year, and my team sucks bad so I've been less interested overall in CFB this year.

# ? Nov 25, 2013 21:01

dirty shrimp money: Jan 8, 2001

I've been pasting data from this page and converting it to something I can plug into my table. Beats the first couple of weeks when I did everything by hand. Great time killer when I'm waiting on some database or server patching stuff.

As for Ohio State dropping so far, turns out I was importing some Frank Solich brand Ohio Bobcat data for them, and vice versa...and like bad Mexican food it worked through the system and crapped out some stuff. Same happened for FAU/FIU.

pre:

#	LW	Team			Record	Score
1	1	Florida State		11-0	3.2040
2	2	Alabama			11-0	3.1311
3	--	Ohio State		11-0	2.8725
4	3	Baylor			9-1	2.5557
5	7	Missouri		10-1	2.5184
6	11	Oklahoma State		10-1	2.3772
7	6	Stanford		9-2	2.3742
8	10	Arizona State		9-2	2.3322
9	13	Michigan State		10-1	2.3012
10	12	Auburn			10-1	2.2821
11	9	Wisconsin		9-2	2.2733
12	5	Louisville		10-1	2.2536
13	8	Clemson			10-1	2.2391
14	4	Oregon			9-2	2.1120
15	14	UCF			9-1	1.9502
16	16	Northern Illinois	11-0	1.8869
17	17	Fresno State		10-0	1.8375
18	20	South Carolina		9-2	1.8126
19	18	Oklahoma		9-2	1.7993
20	26	LSU			8-3	1.5701
21	24	East Carolina		9-2	1.3927
22	33	Bowling Green		8-3	1.3467
23	19	UCLA			8-3	1.3026
24	25	Duke			9-2	1.2692
25	31	Cincinnati		9-2	1.2514

pre:

#	LW	Team			Record	Score
26	38	Texas			7-3	1.2505
27	32	Ball State		9-2	1.2127
28	42	Washington		7-4	1.1891
29	21	Texas A&M		8-3	1.1808
30	39	Buffalo			8-3	1.1798
31	43	Notre Dame		8-3	1.1460
32	35	Miami (FL)		8-3	1.1381
33	28	USC			9-3	1.1330
34	41	Marshall		8-3	1.1302
35	36	Louisiana-Lafayette	8-2	1.1302
36	37	Virginia Tech		7-4	1.1196
37	30	Minnesota		8-3	1.0695
38	27	Houston			7-4	1.0345
39	53	Arizona			7-4	1.0324
40	52	Nebraska		8-3	1.0091
41	29	Ole Miss		7-4	0.9857
42	49	Georgia			7-4	0.9750
43	23	BYU			7-4	0.9409
44	45	Rice			8-3	0.9064
45	48	Utah State		7-4	0.8840
46	40	Michigan		7-4	0.8496
47	56	Georgia Tech		7-4	0.8084
48	34	North Texas		7-4	0.7948
49	51	Iowa			7-4	0.7686
50	50	Vanderbilt		7-4	0.7512
51	46	Boise State		7-4	0.6585
52	44	Toledo			7-4	0.6483
53	54	Texas Tech		7-4	0.6216
54	63	Tulane			7-4	0.5908
55	58	Navy			7-4	0.5867
56	60	Arkansas State		7-4	0.5371
57	61	Middle Tennessee	7-4	0.5335
58	62	Boston College		7-4	0.4945
59	47	Old Dominion (FBS-T)	8-4	0.4709
60	66	Western Kentucky	7-4	0.4617
61	57	Penn State		6-5	0.3220
62	67	Pittsburgh		6-5	0.3203
63	73	North Carolina		6-5	0.2941
64	55	Kansas State		6-5	0.2895
65	70	Washington State	6-5	0.2026
66	69	San Diego State		7-4	0.1902
67	59	Oregon State		6-5	0.1540
68	72	UNLV			6-5	0.1520
69	76	UTSA			6-5	0.1348
70	65	Maryland		6-5	0.0950
71	--	Ohio U			6-5	0.0901
72	64	Texas State		6-5	0.0804
73	68	Colorado State		6-6	0.0190
74	77	Mississippi State	5-6	0.0151
75	84	SMU			5-5	-0.0684
76	122	Florida Atlantic	5-6	-0.0812
77	75	Syracuse		5-6	-0.1327
78	71	Rutgers			5-5	-0.1795
79	74	San Jose State		5-6	-0.1809
80	78	Tennessee		4-7	-0.2080
81	91	Wyoming			5-6	-0.2367
82	79	Utah			4-7	-0.2560
83	89	TCU			4-7	-0.3084
84	85	West Virginia		4-7	-0.3251
85	82	Louisiana-Monroe	5-6	-0.3305
86	87	Troy			5-6	-0.3315
87	80	Northwestern		4-7	-0.3326
88	86	Indiana			4-7	-0.3333
89	99	Central Michigan	5-6	-0.3757
90	102	South Alabama		4-6	-0.3944
91	83	Florida			4-7	-0.4153
92	88	Wake Forest		4-7	-0.4327
93	92	Akron			4-7	-0.4370
94	95	Nevada			4-7	-0.4503
95	98	Illinois		4-7	-0.4884
96	90	Colorado		4-7	-0.5424
97	94	Memphis			3-7	-0.5534
98	105	Kent State		4-8	-0.5619
99	96	Louisiana Tech		4-7	-0.6103
100	101	Army			3-7	-0.6296
101	97	Kansas			3-8	-0.6371
102	93	NC State		3-8	-0.6413
103	100	Arkansas		3-8	-0.6726
104	108	Tulsa			3-8	-0.7485
105	104	Virginia		2-9	-0.7873
106	103	Kentucky		2-9	-0.7997
107	109	New Mexico		3-8	-0.9006
108	106	South Florida		2-8	-0.9162
109	116	Iowa State		2-9	-1.0045
110	111	Purdue			1-10	-1.0527
111	112	UAB			2-9	-1.1118
112	114	Idaho			1-10	-1.1284
113	110	Eastern Michigan	2-9	-1.1685
114	117	Air Force		2-9	-1.1749
115	113	California		1-11	-1.1778
116	118	UTEP			2-9	-1.2559

And as is God's will, Southern Miss has overtaken a transitional team with three FCS losses to be The Worst Team:

pre:

#	LW	Team			Record	Score
117	121	Connecticut		1-9	-1.3301
118	115	Temple			1-10	-1.3400
119	119	Massachusetts		1-10	-1.3912
120	81	Florida International	1-10	-1.3926
121	120	Western Michigan	1-10	-1.4040
122	107	New Mexico State	1-10	-1.4181
123	123	Hawaii			0-11	-1.6518
124	125	Miami (OH)		0-11	-1.6726
125	126	Georgia State (FBS-T)	0-11	-1.9784
126	124	Southern Miss		0-11	-1.9793

Conferences:

1. SEC
2. Pac 12
3. Big 10
4. Big 12
5. ACC
6. American
7. MAC
8. Conference USA
9. Mountain West
10. Sun Belt

dirty shrimp money fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Nov 25, 2013

# ? Nov 25, 2013 23:36

dirty shrimp money: Jan 8, 2001

My poll all of a sudden really likes Missouri.

pre:

Rank	LW	Team			Record	Score
1	1	Florida State		12-0	3.2590
2	5	Missouri		11-1	3.0385
3	2	Alabama			11-1	2.8748
4	7	Stanford		10-2	2.7782
5	3	Ohio State		12-0	2.6485
6	8	Arizona State		10-2	2.6265
7	6	Oklahoma State		10-1	2.5907
8	4	Baylor			10-1	2.5896
9	10	Auburn			11-1	2.4736
10	12	Louisville		10-1	2.4320
11	9	Michigan State		11-1	2.4138
12	18	South Carolina		10-2	2.2164
13	14	Oregon			10-2	2.2077
14	16	Northern Illinois	12-0	2.0835
15	15	UCF			10-1	2.0423
16	11	Wisconsin		9-3	2.0328
17	19	Oklahoma		9-2	1.9576
18	13	Clemson			10-2	1.9074
19	20	LSU			9-3	1.6664
20	17	Fresno State		10-1	1.6177
21	23	UCLA			9-3	1.6111
22	24	Duke			10-2	1.5886
23	22	Bowling Green		9-3	1.4970
24	26	Texas			8-3	1.4371
25	27	Ball State		10-2	1.4029

pre:

Rank	LW	Team			Record	Score
26	25	Cincinnati		9-2	1.3497
27	28	Washington		8-4	1.3457
28	38	Houston			8-4	1.2989
29	32	Miami (FL)		9-3	1.2729
30	36	Virginia Tech		8-4	1.2642
31	34	Marshall		9-3	1.2541
32	42	Georgia			8-4	1.1416
33	43	BYU			8-4	1.1332
34	21	East Carolina		9-3	1.1153
35	45	Utah State		8-4	1.1005
36	44	Rice			9-3	1.0635
37	49	Iowa			8-4	0.9937
38	48	North Texas		8-4	0.9861
39	31	Notre Dame		8-4	0.9331
40	29	Texas A&M		8-4	0.9088
41	30	Buffalo			8-4	0.9005
42	35	Louisiana-Lafayette	8-3	0.8975
43	33	USC			9-4	0.8874
44	50	Vanderbilt		8-4	0.8728
45	37	Minnesota		8-4	0.8673
46	51	Boise State		8-4	0.8374
47	41	Ole Miss		7-5	0.7180
48	39	Arizona			7-5	0.7093
49	57	Middle Tennessee	8-4	0.7032
50	46	Michigan		7-5	0.6827
51	61	Penn State		7-5	0.6703
52	55	Navy			7-4	0.6354
53	47	Georgia Tech		7-5	0.5513
54	64	Kansas State		7-5	0.5416
55	60	Western Kentucky	8-4	0.5375
56	40	Nebraska		8-4	0.5148
57	59	Old Dominion (FBS-T)	8-4	0.5118
58	52	Toledo			7-5	0.4655
59	71	Ohio U			7-5	0.4495
60	54	Tulane			7-5	0.4391
61	53	Texas Tech		7-5	0.3715
62	56	Arkansas State		7-5	0.3279
63	68	UNLV			7-5	0.3238
64	69	UTSA			7-5	0.3192
65	58	Boston College		7-5	0.2889
66	70	Maryland		7-5	0.2339
67	74	Mississippi State	6-6	0.2243
68	73	Colorado State		7-6	0.1920
69	63	North Carolina		6-6	0.1178
70	62	Pittsburgh		6-6	0.0888
71	79	San Jose State		6-6	0.0703
72	65	Washington State	6-6	0.0411
73	76	Florida Atlantic	6-6	0.0332
74	77	Syracuse		6-6	-0.0074
75	66	San Diego State		7-5	-0.0109
76	67	Oregon State		6-6	-0.0246
77	72	Texas State		6-6	-0.0923
78	80	Tennessee		5-7	-0.1199
79	82	Utah			5-7	-0.1645
80	86	Troy			6-6	-0.1822
81	85	Louisiana-Monroe	6-6	-0.1834
82	90	South Alabama		5-6	-0.1894
83	89	Central Michigan	6-6	-0.2074
84	87	Northwestern		5-7	-0.2218
85	88	Indiana			5-7	-0.2494
86	75	SMU			5-6	-0.2895
87	93	Akron			5-7	-0.3355
88	78	Rutgers			5-6	-0.3689
89	81	Wyoming			5-7	-0.4177
90	83	TCU			4-8	-0.4593
91	94	Nevada			4-8	-0.4598
92	91	Florida			4-8	-0.4749
93	84	West Virginia		4-8	-0.4834
94	92	Wake Forest		4-8	-0.5334
95	98	Kent State		4-8	-0.5799
96	95	Illinois		4-8	-0.6066
97	96	Colorado		4-8	-0.6503
98	102	NC State		3-9	-0.6857
99	97	Memphis			3-8	-0.7031
100	100	Army			3-8	-0.7388
101	99	Louisiana Tech		4-8	-0.7751
102	103	Arkansas		3-9	-0.7960
103	101	Kansas			3-9	-0.8108
104	104	Tulsa			3-9	-0.8575
105	109	Iowa State		3-9	-0.8810
106	106	Kentucky		2-10	-0.8817
107	105	Virginia		2-10	-0.8949
108	108	South Florida		2-9	-0.9856
109	107	New Mexico		3-9	-1.0367
110	110	Purdue			1-11	-1.1360
111	117	Connecticut		2-9	-1.2092
112	112	Idaho			1-11	-1.2152
113	118	Temple			2-10	-1.2182
114	111	UAB			2-10	-1.2451
115	115	California		1-11	-1.2468
116	113	Eastern Michigan	2-10	-1.2947

pre:

Rank	LW	Team			Record	Score
117	114	Air Force		2-10	-1.3645
118	122	New Mexico State	2-10	-1.4301
119	116	UTEP			2-10	-1.4382
120	121	Western Michigan	1-11	-1.5113
121	119	Massachusetts		1-11	-1.5506
122	123	Hawaii			1-11	-1.5585
123	120	Florida International	1-11	-1.5983
124	126	Southern Miss		1-11	-1.8226
125	124	Miami (OH)		0-12	-1.8486
126	125	Georgia State (FBS-T)	0-12	-2.1739

# ? Dec 2, 2013 17:46

Captain von Trapp: Jan 23, 2006; I don't like it, and I'm sorry I ever had anything to do with it.

Haven't done this in a few weeks, but since it's the end of the pre-bowl season I'll go ahead and post the latest result. FBS only, though the ratings are derived from games against FCS teams also, provided the FCS teams have played more than 1 FBS team.

code:

1 	 Florida State 	 77.25
2 	 Alabama 	 69.54
3 	 Auburn 	 65.04
4 	 Missouri 	 64.96
5 	 Stanford 	 64.27
6 	 Oregon 	 63.21
7 	 Michigan State 	 63.03
8 	 Ohio State 	 62.66
9 	 Baylor 	 62.66
10 	 LSU 	 62.44
11 	 Arizona State 	 62.21
12 	 Wisconsin 	 61.13
13 	 Oklahoma State 	 60.6
14 	 UCLA 	 60.3
15 	 Clemson 	 60.28
16 	 Texas A&M 	 60.23
17 	 South Carolina 	 60.06
18 	 Georgia 	 58.91
19 	 Washington 	 58.83
20 	 Mississippi 	 57.01
21 	 USC 	 56.94
22 	 Oklahoma 	 56.86
23 	 Arizona 	 55.1
24 	 Iowa 	 54.97
25 	 Notre Dame 	 54.46
26 	 Louisville 	 54.29
27 	 Michigan 	 54.26
28 	 Kansas State 	 54.16
29 	 BYU 	 53.68
30 	 Vanderbilt 	 53.68
31 	 Texas 	 53.51
32 	 Florida 	 53.36
33 	 Virginia Tech 	 53.34
34 	 Miami (Florida) 	 53.12
35 	 Bowling Green 	 52.95
36 	 Washington State 	 52.93
37 	 Mississippi State 	 52.82
38 	 Duke 	 52.76
39 	 Northern Illinois 	 52.74
40 	 Georgia Tech 	 52.59
41 	 Oregon State 	 52.56
42 	 Utah 	 52.33
43 	 Minnesota 	 52.09
44 	 UCF 	 51.74
45 	 Indiana 	 51.4
46 	 Tennessee 	 50.72
47 	 Penn State 	 50.52
48 	 Houston 	 50.28
49 	 North Carolina 	 49.8
50 	 Nebraska 	 49.54
51 	 Texas Tech 	 49.31
52 	 Boston College 	 48.95
53 	 Northwestern 	 48.89
54 	 Syracuse 	 48.48
55 	 TCU 	 48.38
56 	 East Carolina 	 48.34
57 	 Pittsburgh 	 48.32
58 	 Utah State 	 48.1
59 	 Boise State 	 48.01
60 	 Navy 	 47.58
61 	 Ball State 	 47.39
62 	 Fresno State 	 47.35
63 	 Toledo 	 47.15
64 	 Buffalo 	 46.91
65 	 Maryland 	 46.65
66 	 Cincinnati 	 46.59
67 	 Wake Forest 	 45.72
68 	 Marshall 	 45.67
69 	 North Texas 	 45.63
70 	 Arkansas 	 45.52
71 	 Iowa State 	 45.42
72 	 Rice 	 44.5
73 	 Illinois 	 43.8
74 	 Colorado 	 42.94
75 	 South Alabama 	 42.66
76 	 West Virginia 	 42.32
77 	 Florida Atlantic 	 41.97
78 	 Tulane 	 41.86
79 	 UTSA 	 41.86
80 	 SMU 	 41.59
81 	 Western Kentucky 	 41.53
82 	 San Jose State 	 41.37
83 	 Louisiana-Lafayette 	 41.22
84 	 Virginia 	 41.06
85 	 UNLV 	 40.85
86 	 Colorado State 	 40.73
87 	 Rutgers 	 40.51
88 	 Kentucky 	 40.29
89 	 Middle Tennessee 	 40.15
90 	 San Diego State 	 40.12
91 	 Ohio 	 39.59
92 	 Arkansas State 	 38.97
93 	 Connecticut 	 38.9
94 	 North Carolina State 	 38.57
95 	 Nevada 	 38.57
96 	 Memphis 	 38.38
97 	 Kent State 	 37.44
98 	 Troy 	 37.43
99 	 Temple 	 37.37
100 	 Louisiana-Monroe 	 37.05
101 	 Kansas 	 36.67
102 	 South Florida 	 35.93
103 	 Tulsa 	 34.85
104 	 California 	 34.79
105 	 Purdue 	 34.29
106 	 Wyoming 	 33.89
107 	 Hawai'i 	 33.56
108 	 Central Michigan 	 33.4
109 	 Texas State 	 32.82
110 	 New Mexico 	 30.94
111 	 Army 	 30.74
112 	 Air Force 	 28.99
113 	 Louisiana Tech 	 28.36
114 	 UAB 	 26.75
115 	 Georgia State 	 26.65
116 	 UTEP 	 25.82
117 	 Massachusetts 	 25.33
118 	 Western Michigan 	 24.09
119 	 Southern Mississippi 	 23.13
120 	 New Mexico State 	 21.28
121 	 Idaho 	 21.14
122 	 Miami (Ohio) 	 20.84
123 	 Eastern Michigan 	 20.59
124 	 Florida International 	 18.94

# ? Dec 9, 2013 07:32

dirty shrimp money: Jan 8, 2001

So, 1 plays 3.

pre:

#	LW	Team			Record	Final Score
1	1	Florida State		13-0	3.2303
2	3	Alabama			11-1	2.5662
3	9	Auburn			12-1	2.5104
4	8	Baylor			11-1	2.4901
5	11	Michigan State		12-1	2.4086
6	4	Stanford		11-2	2.3753
7	5	Ohio State		12-1	2.3605
8	2	Missouri		11-2	2.3399
9	10	Louisville		11-1	2.2206
10	6	Arizona State		10-3	2.0447
11	12	South Carolina		10-2	1.9987
12	13	Oregon			10-2	1.9622
13	7	Oklahoma State		10-2	1.9611
14	14	Northern Illinois	12-1	1.8828
15	18	Clemson			10-2	1.8761
16	15	UCF			11-1	1.7922
17	16	Wisconsin		9-3	1.7823
18	17	Oklahoma		10-2	1.7175
19	23	Bowling Green		10-3	1.6328
20	20	Fresno State		11-1	1.5631
21	25	Ball State		10-2	1.3817
22	21	UCLA			9-3	1.3803
23	19	LSU			9-3	1.3534
24	28	Houston			8-4	1.2949
25	27	Washington		8-4	1.2386

pre:

#	LW	Team			Record	Final Score
26	22	Duke			10-3	1.2345
27	36	Rice			10-3	1.1964
28	29	Miami (FL)		9-3	1.1843
29	30	Virginia Tech		8-4	1.1770
30	34	East Carolina		9-3	1.1112
31	33	BYU			8-4	1.0541
32	26	Cincinnati		9-3	1.0535
33	31	Marshall		9-4	1.0154
34	38	North Texas		8-4	0.9758
35	37	Iowa			8-4	0.9745
36	43	USC			9-4	0.9677
37	35	Utah State		8-5	0.9412
38	32	Georgia			8-4	0.9316
39	40	Texas A&M		8-4	0.9112
40	24	Texas			8-4	0.8844
41	41	Buffalo			8-4	0.8658
42	46	Boise State		8-4	0.8521
43	39	Notre Dame		8-4	0.8286
44	45	Minnesota		8-4	0.8066
45	44	Vanderbilt		8-4	0.7468
46	49	Middle Tennessee	8-4	0.6980
47	47	Ole Miss		7-5	0.6131
48	48	Arizona			7-5	0.6040
49	42	Louisiana-Lafayette	8-4	0.6029
50	52	Navy			7-4	0.5910
51	50	Michigan		7-5	0.5910
52	53	Georgia Tech		7-5	0.5644
53	55	Western Kentucky	8-4	0.5416
54	57	Old Dominion (FBS-T)	8-4	0.5197
55	56	Nebraska		8-4	0.5131
56	51	Penn State		7-5	0.4632
57	60	Tulane			7-5	0.4626
58	58	Toledo			7-5	0.4535
59	59	Ohio U			7-5	0.4420
60	54	Kansas State		7-5	0.4287
61	63	UNLV			7-5	0.3273
62	62	Arkansas State		7-5	0.3246
63	64	UTSA			7-5	0.3123
64	65	Boston College		7-5	0.2961
65	61	Texas Tech		7-5	0.2707
66	66	Maryland		7-5	0.2331
67	67	Mississippi State	6-6	0.2237
68	68	Colorado State		7-6	0.2088
69	69	North Carolina		6-6	0.1188
70	82	South Alabama		6-6	0.0388
71	73	Florida Atlantic	6-6	0.0316
72	74	Syracuse		6-6	-0.0068
73	70	Pittsburgh		6-6	-0.0108
74	75	San Diego State		7-5	-0.0111
75	76	Oregon State		6-6	-0.0257
76	71	San Jose State		6-6	-0.0281
77	72	Washington State	6-6	-0.0612
78	77	Texas State		6-6	-0.0920
79	81	Louisiana-Monroe	6-6	-0.1702
80	80	Troy			6-6	-0.1758
81	88	Rutgers			6-6	-0.1909
82	83	Central Michigan	6-6	-0.2123
83	78	Tennessee		5-7	-0.2211
84	84	Northwestern		5-7	-0.2278
85	85	Indiana			5-7	-0.2507
86	79	Utah			5-7	-0.2631
87	87	Akron			5-7	-0.3685
88	89	Wyoming			5-7	-0.4192
89	86	SMU			5-7	-0.4196
90	91	Nevada			4-8	-0.4451
91	90	TCU			4-8	-0.4658
92	92	Florida			4-8	-0.4849
93	94	Wake Forest		4-8	-0.5258
94	95	Kent State		4-8	-0.5876
95	93	West Virginia		4-8	-0.5977
96	96	Illinois		4-8	-0.6298
97	97	Colorado		4-8	-0.6417
98	98	NC State		3-9	-0.6602
99	100	Army			3-8	-0.7207
100	101	Louisiana Tech		4-8	-0.7802
101	103	Kansas			3-9	-0.7958
102	102	Arkansas		3-9	-0.7999
103	104	Tulsa			3-9	-0.8373
104	99	Memphis			3-9	-0.8511
105	107	Virginia		2-10	-0.8717
106	105	Iowa State		3-9	-0.8770
107	106	Kentucky		2-10	-0.8908
108	111	Connecticut		3-9	-0.9486
109	109	New Mexico		3-9	-1.0255
110	108	South Florida		2-10	-1.0286
111	110	Purdue			1-11	-1.1299
112	112	Idaho			1-11	-1.2089
113	115	California		1-11	-1.2151
114	114	UAB			2-10	-1.2154
115	116	Eastern Michigan	2-10	-1.2169
116	113	Temple			2-10	-1.2182

pre:

#	LW	Team			Record	Final Score
117	117	Air Force		2-10	-1.2862
118	122	Hawaii			1-11	-1.3965
119	118	New Mexico State	2-10	-1.4197
120	119	UTEP			2-10	-1.4231
121	120	Western Michigan	1-11	-1.5177
122	121	Massachusetts		1-11	-1.5771
123	123	Florida International	1-11	-1.6236
124	124	Southern Miss		1-11	-1.7824
125	125	Miami (OH)		0-12	-1.8338
126	126	Georgia State (FBS-T)	0-12	-2.0487

And here's my top 25 in strength of schedule:

pre:

1	Purdue
2	Tennessee
3	Virginia
4	Indiana
5	Mississippi State
6	Utah
7	California
8	Idaho
9	Florida
10	Georgia
11	Arizona State
12	Kentucky
13	Texas A&M
14	Pittsburgh
15	South Florida
16	Ole Miss
17	Virginia Tech
18	Notre Dame
19	North Carolina
20	Arkansas
21	Wake Forest
22	Tulsa
23	NC State
24	Stanford
25	Michigan

dirty shrimp money fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Dec 9, 2013

# ? Dec 9, 2013 20:02

dirty shrimp money: Jan 8, 2001

And here I have an additional moon poll I played around with this morning...using my poll and strength of schedule calculations, mixed in with each team's opponents' opponents' average score, I developed a sort of RPI of my own.

This poll seems to sort of underrate even good mid-majors badly because it hits them for their schedule, again for their conference schedule, and the fact their mid-major conference mates play a mid-major conference schedule, but this could be the basis of a power conference-only poll next year or if I want to do a NFL power ranking:

pre:

1	Auburn			0.8216
2	Florida State		0.8056
3	Stanford		0.7627
4	Arizona State		0.7484
5	Missouri		0.7252
6	Alabama			0.7024
7	Ohio State		0.6334
8	South Carolina		0.6329
9	Baylor			0.6259
10	Michigan State		0.6102
11	Oregon			0.5728
12	Georgia			0.5615
13	Clemson			0.5596
14	Oklahoma State		0.5515
15	Wisconsin		0.5070
16	Virginia Tech		0.5062
17	Oklahoma		0.5020
18	Texas A&M		0.4881
19	Notre Dame		0.4629
20	Washington		0.4628
21	LSU			0.4572
22	Mississippi State	0.4571
23	Ole Miss		0.4427
24	UCLA			0.4352
25	BYU			0.4292
26	Louisville		0.4113
27	Iowa			0.4025
28	Duke			0.3962
29	Miami (FL)		0.3926
30	UCF			0.3909
31	Michigan		0.3782
32	Houston			0.3742
33	Texas			0.3509
34	Minnesota		0.3493
35	Tennessee		0.3467
36	Georgia Tech		0.3415
37	Arizona			0.3242
38	USC			0.3128
39	Pittsburgh		0.3047
40	North Carolina		0.3035
41	Indiana			0.3011
42	Northern Illinois	0.2983
43	Utah			0.2868
44	Bowling Green		0.2854
45	Washington State	0.2717
46	Penn State		0.2539
47	Fresno State		0.2290
48	Kansas State		0.2228
49	Vanderbilt		0.2216
50	Toledo			0.2165
51	Rice			0.2156
52	Syracuse		0.2120
53	Boston College		0.2040
54	Florida			0.2006
55	Utah State		0.1950
56	North Texas		0.1738
57	Nebraska		0.1723
58	East Carolina		0.1684
59	Texas Tech		0.1658
60	Boise State		0.1417
61	Ball State		0.1327
62	Oregon State		0.1294
63	Buffalo			0.1260
64	Northwestern		0.1196
65	UTSA			0.1192
66	Maryland		0.1118
67	Marshall		0.1085
68	San Jose State		0.1009
69	Navy			0.0888
70	Virginia		0.0818
71	Tulane			0.0773
72	Wake Forest		0.0746
73	Ohio U			0.0620
74	TCU			0.0506
75	Arkansas State		0.0405
76	Nevada			0.0285
77	Arkansas		0.0218
78	Middle Tennessee	0.0174
79	Cincinnati		0.0135
80	Louisiana-Monroe	0.0081
81	Kentucky		0.0077
82	UNLV			0.0051
83	NC State		0.0032
84	Florida Atlantic	-0.0024
85	Illinois		-0.0057
86	Colorado		-0.0098
87	Purdue			-0.0107
88	Akron			-0.0195
89	Western Kentucky	-0.0377
90	Rutgers			-0.0405
91	Louisiana-Lafayette	-0.0589
92	Kansas			-0.0703
93	West Virginia		-0.0725
94	Kent State		-0.0727
95	Old Dominion (FBS-T)	-0.0779
96	South Alabama		-0.0823
97	San Diego State		-0.0843
98	Colorado State		-0.0843
99	Iowa State		-0.0856
100	California		-0.0881
101	Troy			-0.0990
102	Tulsa			-0.1032
103	South Florida		-0.1186
104	SMU			-0.1409
105	Memphis			-0.1424
106	Idaho			-0.1590
107	Central Michigan	-0.1991
108	Connecticut		-0.2118
109	Wyoming			-0.2226
110	Texas State		-0.2667
111	Eastern Michigan	-0.2780
112	Temple			-0.2924
113	UAB			-0.3008
114	New Mexico		-0.3077
115	Army			-0.3136
116	Hawaii			-0.3315
117	Air Force		-0.3382
118	Western Michigan	-0.3502
119	New Mexico State	-0.3741
120	Massachusetts		-0.3855
121	UTEP			-0.4356
122	Florida International	-0.4478
123	Louisiana Tech		-0.4509
124	Miami (OH)		-0.4845
125	Southern Miss		-0.5029
126	Georgia State (FBS-T)	-0.5654

# ? Dec 9, 2013 20:20

dirty shrimp money: Jan 8, 2001

Final poll:

pre:

Rank	LW	Team			Record	Final Score
1	1	Florida State		14-0	3.4997
2	6	Missouri		12-2	2.7768
3	2	Auburn			12-2	2.6728
4	8	Michigan State		13-1	2.4909
5	9	South Carolina		11-2	2.4513
6	5	Stanford		11-3	2.4156
7	3	Alabama			11-2	2.3662
8	15	Oklahoma		11-2	2.2861
9	11	Louisville		12-1	2.2473
10	4	Baylor			11-2	2.2408
11	7	Ohio State		12-2	2.1596
12	14	Oregon			11-2	2.1325
13	13	Clemson			11-2	2.1153
14	16	UCF			12-1	2.0962
15	12	Oklahoma State		10-3	1.9506
16	10	Arizona State		10-4	1.9146
17	21	UCLA			10-3	1.7835
18	18	Northern Illinois	12-2	1.6475
19	22	LSU			10-3	1.5229
20	17	Wisconsin		9-4	1.4483
21	26	Washington		9-4	1.4377
22	19	Bowling Green		10-4	1.3594
23	33	USC			10-4	1.3525
24	20	Fresno State		11-2	1.3329
25	31	East Carolina		10-3	1.2533

pre:

Rank	LW	Team			Record	Final Score
26	38	Texas A&M		9-4	1.2243
27	24	Ball State		10-3	1.1670
28	36	Utah State		9-5	1.1261
29	41	Notre Dame		9-4	1.1158
30	40	North Texas		9-4	1.0968
31	37	Marshall		10-4	1.0855
32	23	Houston			8-5	1.0795
33	25	Miami (FL)		9-4	1.0736
34	27	Duke			10-4	1.0507
35	29	Rice			10-4	1.0110
36	45	Navy			9-4	0.9207
37	28	Virginia Tech		8-5	0.9183
38	46	Vanderbilt		9-4	0.8841
39	30	BYU			8-5	0.8441
40	48	Ole Miss		8-5	0.8327
41	35	Cincinnati		9-4	0.8048
42	49	Arizona			8-5	0.8015
43	34	Georgia			8-5	0.7867
44	39	Texas			8-5	0.7704
45	32	Iowa			8-5	0.7460
46	52	Louisiana-Lafayette	9-4	0.7042
47	54	Nebraska		9-4	0.6594
48	42	Buffalo			8-5	0.6325
49	43	Boise State		8-5	0.6122
50	44	Minnesota		8-5	0.5986
51	60	Kansas State		8-5	0.5935
52	61	Arkansas State		8-5	0.5490
53	47	Middle Tennessee	8-5	0.5375
54	53	Western Kentucky	8-4	0.5272
55	65	Texas Tech		8-5	0.4950
56	55	Old Dominion (FBS-T)	8-4	0.4834
57	57	Penn State		7-5	0.4830
58	66	Mississippi State	7-6	0.4662
59	56	Toledo			7-5	0.4573
60	50	Michigan		7-6	0.3976
61	69	North Carolina		7-6	0.3387
62	63	UTSA			7-5	0.3192
63	51	Georgia Tech		7-6	0.3179
64	68	Colorado State		8-6	0.3099
65	58	Tulane			7-6	0.2787
66	59	Ohio U			7-6	0.2286
67	73	Pittsburgh		7-6	0.1625
68	72	Syracuse		7-6	0.1560
69	62	UNLV			7-6	0.1509
70	75	Oregon State		7-6	0.1391
71	74	San Diego State		8-5	0.1362
72	64	Boston College		7-6	0.1084
73	67	Maryland		7-6	0.0482
74	70	South Alabama		6-6	0.0377
75	71	Florida Atlantic	6-6	0.0307
76	76	San Jose State		6-6	-0.0275
77	78	Texas State		6-6	-0.0962
78	77	Washington State	6-7	-0.1624
79	79	Louisiana-Monroe	6-6	-0.1718
80	80	Troy			6-6	-0.1834
81	82	Tennessee		5-7	-0.1891
82	84	Central Michigan	6-6	-0.2254
83	83	Indiana			5-7	-0.2280
84	85	Northwestern		5-7	-0.2323
85	86	Utah			5-7	-0.2331
86	81	Rutgers			6-7	-0.3827
87	87	Akron			5-7	-0.3836
88	88	Nevada			4-8	-0.4248
89	89	Wyoming			5-7	-0.4356
90	90	Florida			4-8	-0.4362
91	92	TCU			4-8	-0.4433
92	91	SMU			5-7	-0.4443
93	93	Wake Forest		4-8	-0.4961
94	94	Kent State		4-8	-0.6088
95	96	NC State		3-9	-0.6128
96	95	Illinois		4-8	-0.6189
97	97	West Virginia		4-8	-0.6235
98	98	Colorado		4-8	-0.6251
99	102	Tulsa			3-9	-0.7327
100	99	Arkansas		3-9	-0.7378
101	101	Kansas			3-9	-0.7708
102	100	Virginia		2-10	-0.8031
103	104	Kentucky		2-10	-0.8131
104	103	Louisiana Tech		4-8	-0.8155
105	105	Memphis			3-9	-0.8379
106	106	Iowa State		3-9	-0.8568
107	107	South Florida		2-10	-0.9793
108	108	Purdue			1-11	-0.9879
109	111	New Mexico		3-9	-1.0048
110	110	Army			3-9	-1.0053
111	112	Idaho			1-11	-1.0103
112	109	Connecticut		3-9	-1.0118
113	113	California		1-11	-1.1130
114	118	Hawaii			1-11	-1.1966
115	115	UAB			2-10	-1.2349
116	116	Temple			2-10	-1.2939

pre:

Rank	LW	Team			Record	Final Score
117	117	Air Force		2-10	-1.3000
118	114	Eastern Michigan	2-10	-1.3522
119	120	UTEP			2-10	-1.4315
120	119	New Mexico State	2-10	-1.4841
121	121	Western Michigan	1-11	-1.6023
122	123	Florida International	1-11	-1.6459
123	122	Massachusetts		1-11	-1.6843
124	124	Southern Miss		1-11	-1.7191
125	125	Miami (OH)		0-12	-1.8701
126	126	Georgia State (FBS-T)	0-12	-2.3477

Conferences:
1. SEC
2. Pac 12
3. ACC
4. Big 10
5. Big 12
6. American
7. Mountain West
8. Conference USA
9. MAC
10. Sun Belt

# ? Jan 7, 2014 16:28

wa27: Jan 15, 2007

Hey so I finally ran the last six weeks of my poll. congrats to Oregon! :v:

FSU was actually in first going into bowls, but the huge spread for Oregon over Texas was enough to put them on top. Also my poll has been down on Auburn since the start.

code:

1	Oregon	58.86
2	Alabama	55.34
3	Florida State	55.12
4	Ohio State	50.71
5	Wisconsin	49.92
6	Oklahoma State	48.05
7	Clemson	47.99
8	Texas	47.99
9	Baylor	46.76
10	Stanford	46.05
11	LSU	45.67
12	Arizona State	45.61
13	South Carolina	45.08
14	Auburn	44.44
15	Texas AM	43.48
16	Missouri	43.33
17	Michigan State	43.07
18	Georgia	42.69
19	Washington	42.20
20	Oklahoma	41.01
21	Kansas State	40.50
22	Southern Cal	40.11
23	Oregon State	39.74
24	Mississippi	39.06
25	Louisville	38.84
26	UCLA	38.61
27	Iowa	38.35
28	Miami (FL)	36.11
29	Utah State	36.01
30	Michigan	35.89
31	Central Florida	35.79
32	Nebraska	35.78
33	Texas Christian	35.38
34	BYU	35.36
35	Virginia Tech	35.08
36	Georgia Tech	35.07
37	Boise State	34.79
38	Arizona	34.54
39	Fresno State	34.15
40	Texas Tech	33.72
41	Notre Dame	32.85
42	Northwestern	32.83
43	Marshall	32.41
44	Florida	32.30
45	Duke	31.91
46	Bowling Green State	31.89
47	Mississippi State	31.70
48	Northern Illinois	31.56
49	East Carolina	31.25
50	North Carolina	30.79
51	Cincinnati	30.73
52	Penn State	30.14
53	Utah	29.79
54	Houston	29.77
55	Vanderbilt	29.51
56	Boston College	29.16
57	Tennessee	29.16
58	Pittsburgh	28.87
59	Indiana	27.76
60	Minnesota	26.99
61	West Virginia	26.95
62	Maryland	26.65
63	Toledo	26.54
64	Washington State	26.51
65	Ball State	25.85
66	Colorado State	25.21
67	Syracuse	24.88
68	Arkansas	24.40
69	Navy	24.35
70	SUNY-Buffalo	24.33
71	Illinois	24.12
72	San Jose State	23.46
73	Rice	22.59
74	North Texas	22.41
75	Southern Methodist	22.35
76	Iowa State	22.15
77	Kentucky	21.89
78	Western Kentucky	21.68
79	North Carolina State	21.40
80	Virginia	21.33
81	San Diego State	21.24
82	Louisiana-Lafayette	20.89
83	Texas-San Antonio	20.78
84	Middle Tennessee St.	20.54
85	Arkansas State	20.29
86	Memphis	20.09
87	Rutgers	19.99
88	Ohio	19.87
89	Wake Forest	19.69
90	Kansas	19.64
91	Florida Atlantic	19.43
92	South Alabama	18.95
93	Tulsa	17.67
94	Nevada	17.65
95	UNLV	17.44
96	Tulane	17.41
97	South Florida	16.38
98	California	15.76
99	Troy	15.47
100	Temple	15.25
101	Colorado	15.25
102	Kent State	15.22
103	Wyoming	14.90
104	Connecticut	14.85
105	Hawaii	14.47
106	Louisiana-Monroe	14.08
107	Army	13.31
108	Akron	12.45
109	Purdue	12.06
110	Central Michigan	11.96
111	Air Force	11.74
112	Texas State	11.27
113	Louisiana Tech	10.01
114	UAB	6.54
115	New Mexico	5.94
116	Western Michigan	2.89
117	Massachusetts	2.28
118	Georgia State	1.36
119	UTEP	0.86
120	Idaho	-1.21
121	Eastern Michigan	-1.41
122	New Mexico State	-1.77
123	Florida Intl	-3.30
124	Miami (OH)	-3.31
125	Southern Miss	-4.84

edit: fixed.

wa27 fucked around with this message at 02:00 on May 6, 2014

# ? May 6, 2014 01:06

kayakyakr: Feb 16, 2004; Kayak is true

your poll really liked TCU...

# ? May 6, 2014 01:24

wa27: Jan 15, 2007

Woah! I just found a bug in my poll. Apparently Vegasinsider uses "pk" instead of 0 for an even matchup. I missed this for the past three years, so games that should have been even got practically random values assigned for their point spreads. I'm not sure how I didn't notice this before, especially in previous years when I spent a lot of time looking at the results. Thankfully Vegasinsider still has data for the past few years on their site.

I've updated my last post with the actual final poll. Although I based my initial values off last year's final values, so changes I make to 2011's data might have a minor impact on 2013's results. :stonk:

# ? May 6, 2014 02:07

kayakyakr: Feb 16, 2004; Kayak is true

wa27 posted:

Woah! I just found a bug in my poll. Apparently Vegasinsider uses "pk" instead of 0 for an even matchup. I missed this for the past three years, so games that should have been even got practically random values assigned for their point spreads. I'm not sure how I didn't notice this before, especially in previous years when I spent a lot of time looking at the results. Thankfully Vegasinsider still has data for the past few years on their site.

I've updated my last post with the actual final poll. Although I based my initial values off last year's final values, so changes I make to 2011's data might have a minor impact on 2013's results.

Your poll still really, really likes TCU.

# ? May 6, 2014 03:59

Numlock: May 19, 2007; The simplest seppo on the forums

kayakyakr posted:

Your poll still really, really likes TCU.

But they went to the Rosebowl that one time and beat a B1G team! THAT MEANS THEY ARE A TOP TIER BIG 12 TEAM REGARDLESS OF PERFORMANCE UNLESS WE COUNT ALL THOSE MAC TEAMS THEY BEAT.

Seriously though, I hope the Big XII kept their receipt for TCU.

# ? May 6, 2014 14:37

Thermos H Christ: Sep 6, 2007; WINNINGEST BEVO

Numlock posted:

Seriously though, I hope the Big XII kept their receipt for TCU.

Eh, we kinda needed a team from Texas and they were easily the most promising program. They can probably get good again. Maybe not great, but good.

I've heard some claims that they have trouble drumming up respectable attendance, but the same was true of Baylor until like last year.

# ? May 6, 2014 16:45

wa27: Jan 15, 2007

kayakyakr posted:

Your poll still really, really likes TCU.

It looks like, for some reason, bettors really liked TCU more than they should have. TCU was favored against Texas and Texas Tech, and heavily favored over West Virginia (which my poll also liked for a while). They went 4-8 against the spread.

On the other end of the spectrum, Tulane didn't get any respect from bettors. They went 9-4 against the spread and were the lowest ranked team to go to a bowl.

# ? May 6, 2014 17:01

kayakyakr: Feb 16, 2004; Kayak is true

Thermos H Christ posted:

Eh, we kinda needed a team from Texas and they were easily the most promising program. They can probably get good again. Maybe not great, but good.

I've heard some claims that they have trouble drumming up respectable attendance, but the same was true of Baylor until like last year.

We most certainly did not need another team from Texas. DFW was already a solid market for UT and TTU. Houston would have been a better team because at least they would have brought more Houston viewership. TCU was wholly because UT wanted another team that would do whatever UT wanted.

# ? May 6, 2014 17:58

Numlock: May 19, 2007; The simplest seppo on the forums

Thermos H Christ posted:

Eh, we kinda needed a team from Texas and they were easily the most promising program. They can probably get good again. Maybe not great, but good.

I've heard some claims that they have trouble drumming up respectable attendance, but the same was true of Baylor until like last year.

While this is probably better discussed in the Off season thread I agree with Kayakyakr.

TCU was just a warm body that happened to be available when the Big XII was looking like it would get picked apart. Hell if certain rumors are true they got in because Dodds was drunk when decision time came.

# ? May 6, 2014 18:44

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# ? Apr 26, 2024 22:33

Thermos H Christ: Sep 6, 2007; WINNINGEST BEVO

Numlock posted:

Hell if certain rumors are true they got in because Dodds was drunk when decision time came.

When I read that story I took it to mean that the B12 ADs had already decided to go with TCU by the time the TCU guy showed up to pitch to Dodds (the day before the official vote). Rather than sit around listening to a pointless sales pitch, Deloss told the dude not to bother and took him to a bar.

kayakyakr posted:

We most certainly did not need another team from Texas. DFW was already a solid market for UT and TTU. Houston would have been a better team because at least they would have brought more Houston viewership. TCU was wholly because UT wanted another team that would do whatever UT wanted.

That and they wanted a replacement for A&M in as many categories as possible. An in-state team means the travel budget/logistics didn't change as much, and I think it was aimed at maintaining a dynamic where the B12 should always feature at least a couple major matchups between teams from within the state of Texas. Prior to A&M's departure I loved that bragging rights to Texas were basically always on the line in the B12. I felt so robbed when we didn't get to see A&M vs Baylor to settle the issue last year.

# ? May 7, 2014 01:06

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