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big crush on Chad OMG
Feb 22, 2005





Deeters posted:

Even if autopilot didn't know what to do with the flipped over truck, surely it would have identified the guy standing in the road 100 feet before it, right?

Clearly not but donít worry, big daddy Elon will patch it OTA and people can go back to watching anime catgirl porn on the freeway in no time

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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

wakey wakey to
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Yams Fan

Deeters posted:

Even if autopilot didn't know what to do with the flipped over truck, surely it would have identified the guy standing in the road 100 feet before it, right?

I like how all four corners erupt in smoke just as the car passes the person. Something hit the panic button, but was it a computer or a meatbag?

u brexit ukip it
Oct 30, 2004


Exciting Lemon

Deeters posted:

Even if autopilot didn't know what to do with the flipped over truck, surely it would have identified the guy standing in the road 100 feet before it, right?

Of course it did, that's 50 points right there!

Itzena
Aug 2, 2006

Nothing will improve the way things currently are.

Slime TrainerS

Sheriff Rosco P Coltrane is at it again: https://twitter.com/stephaniejing2/...149143584804864

PenisMonkey
Apr 30, 2004

Be gentally.

Mustíve been on autopilot.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.


Iíve driven across the country 6 times. Just finished doing it on Monday. The time before that was over 20 years ago.

The number of trucks who ignore how fast youíre overtaking them when they pull into the passing lane so they can take 10 minutes to pass the truck thatís going .005 mph slower than they are increased roughly 100,000% by my rough count.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

C-Bangin' it



Blame the companies. They set the governors for fuel efficiency. So yeah, a 66 taking over a 65 will be quite fun.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.


I think Iím gonna blame the guy who brake-checks me when Iím overtaking when Iím allowed to overtake. Over and over again.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

wakey wakey to
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Yams Fan

Adaptive cruise control makes it pretty chill. Unless you get really hot and bothered by not being able to maintain +10 over the limit.

If going E/W in the northern part of the country always take I-90 over I-94 between Billings and Tomah. I-94 is like 40 miles shorter so a huge majority of the trucks take it, making I-90 quite a bit quieter. It's not vacant, but there's less elephant races.

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010



Phanatic posted:

Iíve driven across the country 6 times. Just finished doing it on Monday. The time before that was over 20 years ago.

AI's secret cannonballer.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.


Nobody's allowed to call me that but my first wife.

Flint Ironstag
Apr 2, 2004

Bob Johnson...oh, wait

Phanatic posted:

Iíve driven across the country 6 times. Just finished doing it on Monday. The time before that was over 20 years ago.

The number of trucks who ignore how fast youíre overtaking them when they pull into the passing lane so they can take 10 minutes to pass the truck thatís going .005 mph slower than they are increased roughly 100,000% by my rough count.

My dad is a retired trucker, and did it for over 40 years. Several years ago, after noticing that semi drivers used to be among the best on the road no longer, I asked him what he thought of the current crop of truck drivers.

He had a few, um, choice words on his opinion about many of them.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

C-Bangin' it



There are the real truck drivers.

And there are the steering wheel holders.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.


But most of these werenít even Swift trucks.

An issue I have with my carís adaptive cruise control is that thereís a distance you can follow someone at that communicates ďI am perfectly content with the speed you are moving at and am willing to sit here all dayĒ and thereís a distance that communicates ďI intend to pass you.Ē Iím not talking about tailgating or charging right up on someoneís rear end before slowing abruptly. Iím talking about following at a distance which communicates the same thing that blinking your lights at someone would in a civilized country.

Adaptive cruise control only does the former. At least in my car.

Phanatic fucked around with this message at 11:05 on Jun 5, 2020

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.



Phanatic posted:

But most of these weren’t even Swift trucks.

An issue I have with my car’s adaptive cruise control is that there’s a distance you can follow someone at that communicates “I am perfectly content with the speed you are moving at and am willing to sit here all day” and there’s a distance that communicates “I intend to pass you.” I’m not talking about tailgating or charging right up on someone’s rear end before slowing abruptly. I’m talking about following at a distance which communicates the same thing that blinking your lights at someone would in a civilized country.

Adaptive cruise control only does the former. At least in my car.

That makes the yuge assumption that the people you're following are paying any attention whatsoever

Speleothing
May 6, 2008

Spare batteries are pretty key.

Fun Shoe

If you intend to pass, why are you relying on the ACC to do the passing for you?

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

wakey wakey to
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Yams Fan

The Subaru cruise control is somewhat clever in that it will disable gap control once you turn on your blinker, making it even easier to pass. It'll happily accelerate back to your desired speed allowing you pass smoothly. Though I usually lean into the accelerator a bit to avoid spending too long in the passing lane.

I assume other badges have a similar behavior but having never used them, am not an expert.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.


Speleothing posted:

If you intend to pass, why are you relying on the ACC to do the passing for you?

Iím not. The ideal behavior would be for the adaptive control to close to the proper distance to communicate ďyouíre doing 73 in the passing lane of a 75 and I would like to pass you,Ē guy gets out of my way, I speed up to pass using the pedal, then car slows to my steady speed.

Instead the car slows down to keep station too far behind, I need to use the pedal to get closer to the guy so he realizes I want to pass.

Itís a mild annoyance at worst compared to a loving 18-wheeler changing lanes in front of me when he clearly sees Iím overtaking.

My car also does the turn signal thing which is pretty nice.

Phanatic fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Jun 5, 2020

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.



Cybernetic Crumb

Speleothing posted:

If you intend to pass, why are you relying on the ACC to do the passing for you?

I think he's talking about the all too familiar situation of someone parked in the passing lane next to someone in the driving lane, matching their speed. That's where ACC shines, it just slows down until they move. He's saying the problem is that they don't tend to move when he's following at a safe distance.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

wakey wakey to
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Yams Fan

Cruise control is not auto pilot, if you want to tailgate someone to SEND A MESSAGE then do it yourself.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

Waiting for his chance

You can flash your brights, turn on your left blinker, etc, without messing with adaptive cruise control. Following too close is not a prudent communication technique. At least on my car, the manual says the shortest ACC distance is about 1.4 sec, which would definitely be too close without the computer being ready to hit the brakes.

RIP Paul Walker
Feb 26, 2004



Phanatic posted:

Iíve driven across the country 6 times. Just finished doing it on Monday. The time before that was over 20 years ago.

The number of trucks who ignore how fast youíre overtaking them when they pull into the passing lane so they can take 10 minutes to pass the truck thatís going .005 mph slower than they are increased roughly 100,000% by my rough count.

Iím glad Iím not the only one that notices this. Especially annoying when they do it right before a hill.

Also Iím 110% positive they do it on purpose to gently caress with you. Iíve lost count of how many times Iíve driven across the middle and itís gotten way worse. I mentally revisit vintage Clarkson lorry driver rant every time I spent 20 minutes behind the <redacted>.

MomJeans420
Mar 19, 2007

Most of the gear, most of the time


The best about a truck overtaking another truck for minutes up hill where there are only two lanes are how most of the cars right behind the truck realize you just need to wait it out, but go back far enough and people decided there must be someone holding up the left lane so they zoom ahead in the right lane, then cut off someone to get back to the left. It's the most infuriating part of driving to Vegas (well maybe besides leaving Vegas), but after driving home from a particularly rough bachelor party I now only fly there.

monsterzero
May 12, 2002
I HAVE POKED YOU IN THE EYE... WITH DEMOCRACY!

Lipstick Apathy

MomJeans420 posted:

The best about a truck overtaking another truck for minutes up hill where there are only two lanes are how most of the cars right behind the truck realize you just need to wait it out, but go back far enough and people decided there must be someone holding up the left lane so they zoom ahead in the right lane, then cut off someone to get back to the left. It's the most infuriating part of driving to Vegas (well maybe besides leaving Vegas), but after driving home from a particularly rough bachelor party I now only fly there.

*screams in I5*

This is the worst part of the drive back from SoCal. Grapevine to Patterson is just a 3-1/2 hour loop of this behavior. Strangely, doesn't happen nearly as much southbound, or north of Patterson.

ETA: 73.214% of the time it's a black 3-series or Audi doing the pass on the right maneuver

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

Waiting for his chance

The USA needs a nationwide law that says if there are three or more lanes (in a given direction, not total), trucks are banned from the leftmost lane. Two lanes is harder since the trucks need to be able to move over for traffic entering the highway.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.


Zorak of Michigan posted:

You can flash your brights,

Flashing your lights in this country drives people into fits of psychopathic rage. It's fuckin' bizarre.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?


Colostomy Bag posted:

Blame the companies. They set the governors for fuel efficiency. So yeah, a 66 taking over a 65 will be quite fun.
Still the drivers choosing to make that move. If your truck can't pass at an appropriate speed, it can't loving pass, either deal with it or find the beancounter responsible and "figure out a way" to make them realize the error of their ways.

Zorak of Michigan posted:

The USA needs a nationwide law that says if there are three or more lanes (in a given direction, not total), trucks are banned from the leftmost lane. Two lanes is harder since the trucks need to be able to move over for traffic entering the highway.
Unfortunately there are two major problems with this in my experience.

The areas most full of self-righteous fucktards refusing to give up the left lane in my experience are also the ones with two lane interstate (gently caress you Indiana) and the areas with 3+ lanes often tend to have left exits.

Phanatic posted:

Flashing your lights in this country drives people into fits of psychopathic rage. It's fuckin' bizarre.
Yeah, tell a slow gently caress they're being a slow gently caress and they'll amp it up infinitely.

wolrah fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Jun 5, 2020

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON


Zorak of Michigan posted:

Following too close is not a prudent communication technique.

Based on my experience with passing lane hogs - high beams and turn signals aren't prudent communication techniques either. Often doing one or the other has the opposite of desired effect and causes the person to dig in and block the lane intentionally.

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

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Phanatic posted:

Flashing your lights in this country drives people into fits of psychopathic rage. It's fuckin' bizarre.

wolrah posted:

Yeah, tell a slow gently caress they're being a slow gently caress and they'll amp it up infinitely.
I definitely haven't ever flashed slow fucks to cause them to do this and allow other traffic to pass, often for miles at a time.

dee eight
Dec 18, 2002

The Spirit
of Maynard



MomJeans420 posted:

The best about a truck overtaking another truck for minutes up hill where there are only two lanes are how most of the cars right behind the truck realize you just need to wait it out, but go back far enough and people decided there must be someone holding up the left lane so they zoom ahead in the right lane, then cut off someone to get back to the left.

My SOP for elephant races is to wait it out behind the truck being passed. I'll wait until poo poo is sorted before getting around. A string of impatient shitheads tailgating each other in the left lane is not where I want to be if things go pear shaped.

Entropist
Dec 1, 2007
I'm very stupid.


Can't believe that there are still countries where it's not illegal to be on the left when there is space in a lane to your right. Start a revolution or something.

phosdex
Dec 16, 2005



Tortured By Flan

It being illegal and it being enforced are separate matters.

Protocol7
Jul 26, 2012

Cyber Hellcat is not amused


phosdex posted:

It being illegal and it being enforced are separate matters.

No kidding. We can hardly get people to stop driving drunk in the U.S., among, y'know, other pressing societal concerns. You think we can get people to move out of the passing lane willingly?

Haifisch
Nov 12, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!






Taco Defender

Hell, the only reason speeding is enforced relatively consistently is because it's easy to prove and a moneymaker for cops. They don't care about safety or traffic flow.

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004









Fun Shoe

https://twitter.com/inthesedeserts/...3126204416?s=21

I hope this works for the thread due to its similarity with truck-overpass meetups

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011





Horses are loving stupid, unpredictable animals. Quite why cops choose to ride them round huge crowds I'll never understand.

Foxtrot_13
Oct 31, 2013


Horses are often used in public order in Britain as they can be trained to do well in crowds, give a great view, mostly require little input to operate, are intimidating as gently caress and will try not to run over humans if they can help it. Usually a few about on matchdays.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011





I'm English. Horses are poo poo for crowds, evidently...

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof


Comedy option: put cops on 6' tall 4 wheelers.

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taqueso
Mar 8, 2004









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