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The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Astonishing Wang posted:

Wow I sure hope that thing was right hand drive :ohdear:

I like how nobody bothers to stop to check on the driver.

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The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Safety Dance posted:

It's China. Checking on the driver implies guilt.

I see this sort of thing in dash videos from other places too, people just suck in general I think.

Watched a Russian video the other day where a woman was hit by a van and went airborne and landed in front of the car with the camera. Guy talks in Russian briefly then drives into the opposing lanes and accelerates off.

poo poo like that just amazes me and I see it quite often in dash videos.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





DEAR RICHARD posted:

It's worth it to watch some of his other videos. I drive most of the same streets he does and I see comparable poo poo.

I drive a huge number of miles every week, and I see my share of stupid poo poo, but the sheer volume of amazing stupidity in that video is astounding.

Maybe the drivers in the Phoenix area aren't as bad as I thought (relative to that video sample at least).

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Cocoa Crispies posted:

Yeah don't talk to the ticketing officer more than necessary. They're there to make a transaction (ticket to you). By making it sound like you were going to dispute it, they may have just decided that while it was borderline, they wanted to see if they could make it stick in court, and letting the paper do the talking was probably a vital part of that.

This.

When I was a teenager I wanted to be a cop, so I was in a Jr. LE group that got to do weekly ride alongs with the police. Normal ticketing procedure was to write a ticket and get on with the day. If someone brought attention to themselves by trying to argue it, or especially if they were a dick/bitch to the officer, we would find a nice shady spot to park, and that ticket had the holy gently caress documented out of it.

Since this was long before the in-car camera rigs, the officer I rode with would write down all of his conversation with the person, and then write down everything he could about the circumstances of the ticket and the conditions, etc. He would then take all of that with him when he went to court so that he had detailed notes to refer to for the judge.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





xzzy posted:

Most areas have laws about blocking driveways, you also could have called the police and if someone bothered to show up they'd get a ticket and potentially towed.

In my town, they write you a ticket for blocking your own driveway.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





One thing that really annoyed me about the Fiesta when I first bought it was that there is absolutely no indication inside the car that the headlights are on or off except for the position of the switch. The switch is in a location that you have to move to see it as well.

I was coming from driving vehicles that either had automatic headlights with sensors, or where the dash lights were off unless the headlights (or at least parking lights) were on, and mostly both.

I've gotten used to it over the years, but it still seems like a dumb design decision. Why do I need instrument cluster lights if it's light enough that I don't have the headlights on? Unless I'm driving through a tunnel, I can't even tell the cluster lights are on during the day. It's just weird.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





xzzy posted:

Not sure why a daylight sensor isn't standard equipment these days, cars should be smart enough to light up the road on their own when it gets dark.

In my case, I drive a base model Fiesta as a cheap economical commuter tool. It doesn't have automatic anything, even manual windows.

Geoj posted:

There are a lot of late-model cars that have text and/or pips on the gauges that are only visible when they're backlit - in my personal experience, first-gen MS3s are like this (with the key out you just have blank dials with needles), and I had a pair of second-gen Fusions between 2010 & 2012 that had illuminated pips that weren't visible without backlighting.

So it would make sense to have always on cluster lights if they were needed like this, but in my case, there is no difference at all in what is visible or not when the lights are on vs. off, so the reasoning doesn't seem to be there.

I suppose maybe some of the higher line versions of the Fiesta have some fancier dash that requires back-lighting to see, and they just made the lighting work the same on all of them, who knows.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Extra posted:

Please stop reminding me the 3 door is not sold in the states :negative:

Yea, I wouldn't choose my car for looks. 4 door boring white sedan.

It does however, do a phenomenal job of what I purchased it for - cheap transportation. At about $15k out the door with an automatic transmission (the only option), It has a lifetime average of 38.5mpg driving 2.5 hours every day in rush-hour traffic.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Almost all the cars we could afford in my youth had dual horns that had some variation of that Caddy horn sound. Pretty much any land barge from the late 60's or early 70's had duals that were loud as hell compared to today's weak sauce horns.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





thelightguy posted:

What kind of suburban hellhole do you live in where blocking sidewalks isn't a ticketable offence? Remind me to never move out of the city.

In the US, I believe it's ticket-able anywhere, as it's against the ADA (Americans with Disabilites Act) to block a sidewalk with your car.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Cage posted:

These are the people you park in a parking lot with:



Looks like a typical day at my office.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





iForge posted:

I've seen cops do this with multiple cars, but never just one guy weaving back and forth. That would be fun as hell for about a minute then just get tedious as gently caress.

I've seen a bunch of rolling roadblocks in Arizona, never with more than a single car doing the weave thing. Usually it's to clear an accident or get a broken down car out of the median, or for another officer/crew to move something like a sofa or water heater that some nimrod didn't properly secure out of the travel lanes.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Sagebrush posted:

hnnnnngghhhhhhh

Feel good gif of the day.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Ineptus Mechanicus posted:

I wonder if they show up at dealerships complaining about brake wear and lovely fuel economy.

Yes they do. A couple years ago there was a story in the news about some dumb woman in California who sued Honda because her precious little car wasn't getting the mileage from the window sticker.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Goober Peas posted:

There was more to that story - it was a Civic Hybrid ...

Thanks for the info. Media is pretty terrible at following up on stories, so you never do get to hear beyond the initial sound bite.

At the time I just figured she drove it like all the hybrid's around here get driven, as if they are in a race, and her mileage was suffering because of her right foot weight issue. Even if I was wrong, that sticker on the window does say 'estimate' not guarantee, and suing over your car not hitting those numbers just seemed frivolous to me.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





IOwnCalculus posted:

Well, in my case, it was sedately* accelerating as a 19-year-old in his dad's E320 in the right lane, while stereotypical :rice: was smoking the tires in his neon-lighted Civic in the left lane.

*okay fine I was at WOT too but it was a dead heat from 0-50 in a 45 zone because both cars were slooooow

In all seriousness they base it on such vagaries as "exhaust noise", "revving engines", and "squealing tires". I've never been so glad to have a stock exhaust and non-defeatable traction control.

I got the exact opposite. When I was 19 or 20 I drove a 1968 Dodge Charger with a *really* built 440 (think - lopey as hell idle at 1000rpm), and a 3000rpm stall torque converter. Sounded like I was racing pretty much at all times.

I got pulled over on Central Avenue when the little rice-mobile next to me did the burnout drag race thing while I sedately drove along next to him barely touching the throttle. We both got pulled over (two separate motor officers) for 'exhibition of speed'. Luckily I was on my way home from work, wearing a suit, and at the time I was in sales so kept a pretty military haircut as well. After a relatively lengthy conversation the police officer finally conceded that maybe, just maybe, if I was *really* drag racing the Honda that it would not have been anywhere near my back bumper, let alone next to me, and he let me go with a verbal warning. The other officer was writing a citation as I drove away. I imagine that if the same thing happened today, nearly 30 years later, that he would have written me up without discussion.

That car got me pulled over a lot, usually for noise, but strangely only ever got 1 actual ticket (for 70 in a 55 on I-40).

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





InterceptorV8 posted:

I have done all of these before in a semi.

Why does your semi have a trunk?

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





revmoo posted:

Case in point: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.207519,-85.708736,19z

That is a roundabout. Yes it's as dumb in person as it looks in the map. They just installed it recently.

Well of course, it's outside of a zoo. Based on all the zoo's I've visited, I am fairly sure that zoo's are required by law to have strange road designs where you enter their parking lot.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Solar Coaster posted:

...After talking with the police, they told me they won't do anything because it was not a hit and run since I tracked down and caught the guy myself.

Wait, what? That's the loving *definition* of hit and run. Leaving the scene of a loving accident. It doesn't matter if it's you or the cops that run him down afterwards, if he leaves the scene it's a hit and run. :wtf:

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:

The guy sleeping off a night of drinking in the back seat of his car is literally behind the wheel, I guess

If you are inside of the car, and have the keys in your possession, then you are in control of the vehicle, and it's DUI even if you are doing the right thing and sleeping it off instead of driving (lovely, but that's the way the law is written, at least here in AZ).

If you are outside of the wrecked car, then I guess it's a judgement call? If someone was hurt or a second party was involved then I imagine it would change the scenario a bit.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Haifisch posted:

See also: People who swerve way away from cars parked on the side of the road, even when there's plenty of room to stay in their lane.

Not sure of what all this encompasses for you, but in Arizona it is a law that if there is a vehicle stopped on the side of the road with flashers on (whether that be a dude with his hazards on, or an emergency vehicle with the lights going), you must either change lanes out of the bordering lane to pass, or slow down to some nebulous and arbitrary 'safe speed' to pass them. I just hit the turn signal and get out of the lane.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Michael Scott posted:

Travelling above the speed limit is a norm for this forum. A lot of the time the limits are too low for the road, in an engineering sense and often a safety sense (because some people speed and others are unwilling to go above the limit).

After driving 1200'ish miles in Nevada over the last 2 days, I'm convinced of 2 things:

1) Nevada desperately needs an unlimited speed limit on the vast majority of the roads through the desolate wastelands between the tiny dead towns with 25mph speed limits.

2) The state needs to be renamed to "Desolation", or perhaps "Wasteland".

Also, for the drivers on those 2 lane highways that apparently think blinding the driver coming towards you at a closing speed of 150mph+ when you are going to pass less than 8' from them, no 'gently caress you' is remotely big enough, and I hope there is a special place in hell for them.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





PT6A posted:

It's always interesting when a speed limit stays the same even after a giant re-design is done on a specific section of road. This is the case on Glenmore Trail in Calgary -- there used to be lights at a lot more intersections, but now it's basically an expressway for a large part of its length. Guess what? The speed limit was 80 km/h with lights, and it's 80 km/h as an expressway despite the fact it would be completely safe to raise the limit to 100 km/h (which many people already do, if you ignore one or two choke-points because no one in this godforsaken city knows how to merge).

It's even better when they improve the road and then drop the limit. I-10 west of Phoenix was 75mph limit from the edge of Goodyear until a few years ago when they redid the 8 or so miles west starting where the road used to narrow from 3 lanes to 2 lanes. Now it's 3-5 lanes (depending on where exactly) with super smooth rubberized asphalt, and the entire stretch was reduced to 65mph, right up to the point that it narrows back to 2 lanes, where it's still 75mph limit the rest of the way to the border with California.

Everyone still drives that entire stretch at 75~80.

:iiam:

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Powershift posted:

Police CVPIs were rated to take a rear end impact at 75mph. The fact that the trunk was against the C pillar and not the B pillar is evidence of that.

Unless the vehicle doing the rear-ending is a semi with a driver busy browsing porn on his phone instead of watching where he's going, in which case you are pretty much just hosed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz1pPh5jOzg

The first DPS cruiser in the video is not occupied. The officer that's killed is in the 2nd cruiser.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Ringo Star Get posted:

It's also a great idea to call it in to the non emergency number.

If they are obviously impaired, it's an emergency, not a non-emergency, in my opinion. I've called in a drunk driver to 911, and the highway patrol had a car behind him pulling him over in less than 5 miles.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





ValleyGirl posted:

Reminds me of another incident I wish I had a video of. I was traveling down I-90 between Superior MT, and Missoula. Interstate 90 in that region is one of the finest freeways I've ever had the pleasure of driving on - perfect condition road surfaces, 75 mph speed limits. Just wonderful...

Well, I was westbound toward Superior at the time with the cruise control set at 95 mph, when suddenly out of nowhere... Momma bear runs across the road, followed by 3 cubs. I am standing on the brake pedal trying to stop in time - because I know that if I hit one of them, Momma will be very upset. I managed to stop with maybe 10 feet to spare. Had I hit one, I'm not sure my Kahr PM40 which I was carrying at the time would have been adequate to stop the mother bear. Whew. Lucky.

Something about Montana. I was on my way back from an autocross in Kalispel headed to East Glacier on US Hwy 2 back in 1999. I was driving my Cobra which was wearing overly wide R-compound tires (because I'm a lazy gently caress who doesn't like to change tires) when a pretty big Grizzly wandered out in front of me while I was going.. way too fast for that road. I was pretty happy I had the sticky tires on as I was able to do a quick slalom move around the bear (because there was no way in hell I could have stopped in time). I'm fairly certain that the maneuver would have been impossible with the factory tires on, but luckily I will never know.

I also got to dodge a fair number of other critters while I lived up in that area for a couple of seasons, including a friggen wolverine, who absolutely gave no fucks about dumb humans in cars. The stupid big-horn sheep up there owned the roads too, they'd head-butt a huge dent in your car if you dared to try to rush them by being so dumb as to honk at them.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Dear semi drivers. Is it *really* necessary to move into the far left lane on I-10 to pass the other three semi's that are already traveling side by side blocking the other three lanes, when you are only doing 0.5 mph faster than those other three guys and you are all doing 10 under the limit? Really?

:argh:

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





TKIY posted:

If someone is coming south and makes the left on the advanced left turn, some people will sit through that entire cycle as well.

To be fair, about 90% of the morons we share a road with think a proper left turn means to barrel directly into the farthest right lane of the road they are turning onto, so I can sort of understand being timid on the merge.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





jaegerx posted:

I just don't understand this


How do you gently caress up this badly?

:stare:

Close the thread, we are done here, nothing anyone can possibly post will exceed this perfect level of failure.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





a primate posted:

Sometimes I'll move over in my lane to show them that there's a whole lineup of cars in front of me, which usually never works.

It doesn't matter, they just want to be in front of you. I commute in a little Fiesta, pretty much any car on the road has no problem seeing what's in front of me, but that doesn't stop them from riding my rear end impatiently even when there is a solid line of cars in front of me as far as the eye can see.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Since we are bitching about both road design, and stupid people who don't understand stop lines - I drive through this intersection every day:



The north/south lanes are at 55mph on a through road. The east/west traffic has stop signs, with the stop-line set way back to allow the high-speed north/south left turn lane traffic to exit the highway at a reasonable rate of speed following the green path (although I probably have it curved in a bit too early). At least 2 times per week I'll see some dumb-rear end pull forward like the red line/box on the picture, or even further forward, completely blocking the left turning traffic in some cases by pulling all the way forward to where they are actually in-line with that turn lane (it's really awesome when it's a semi doing this). There is *nothing* obstructing the vision of oncoming traffic in either direction, you can see north/south from the stop lines for half a mile or more, so I have no idea why idiots do this. :iiam:

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Butt Wizard posted:

Dear Cyclist who cut me off at a roundabout...have a watch and realise just how close you came to killing yourself and maybe not put your life in stupid amounts of danger again.

It's a beautiful dream, keep hope alive!

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





How we use salt in the winter in Phoenix.



:smug:

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.






Wrecks like that are frightening, as no matter how good you are as a driver, no matter how much you are paying attention, there is exactly jack poo poo you could do to avoid it if you are the poor bastard sitting in that car at the light.

Edit: The 81 year old guy was one of the fatalities. The other two (so far, two are critical) were in that first car he hit - 86 and 48 year old nuns.

The Locator fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Nov 24, 2014

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





I bought my house a few years before the big crash in 08. I lost my job due to the crash in 09 and ended up in a 'make ends meet' job before finally changing careers and starting my current job in 11. I'm doing well now, the career change was the best thing that could have happened to me, but the fallout is that I'm now in a house that's 52 miles and 65-90 minutes from work, and the market is still years from recovering to the point where I won't be upside down.

I'd love to move closer to work for that whole 'quality of life' thing, but the realities of the house market and finances simply say no to that right now. The only way I could conceivably swing it would be to somehow come up with enough for the down payment on a new place (or rent I suppose) and then walk away from this house. Unfortunately for me I guess I don't blame other people for the contract that I signed, and I just can't bring myself to ignore it and walk.

So yea, not everyone can just 'move closer to work' at the drop of a hat.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





totalnewbie posted:

This country needs public transportation, badly.

While I don't disagree with that, some areas would be crazy expensive to provide a reasonable level of public transit for. I live in the greater Metro Phoenix area, and it's sprawled all to hell and back, so to be able to get a level of coverage to everyone in the city would be something that would be.. difficult? I can't even imagine a system that would actually work for even a majority of the people living here. And of course you've got that whole 'waiting for the train outside, in Phoenix, in the summer' thing going on to drive people back into their air conditioned cars (even if they do live right next to the public transit stop).

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:

We spend lots of money on crazy expensive things, public transportation seems pretty worthwhile

The Greater Phoenix metro area is somewhere between 2000 and 9000 square miles depending on how you define the metro area.

From Buckeye in the west to Apache Junction in the east it is about 70 miles (ignoring the 'western' area of Buckeye, and Tonopah to the west, and Gold Canyon and other developments to the east). From the general area of the north edge of Phoenix (ignoring Anthem which has 100,000 people living quite a bit further north) to the south edge of Phoenix (ignoring quite a few large developed areas to the south) it's about 50 miles.

Have fun designing a public transit system for that area that not only works, but people will use when it's 110+ out. Oh, and good luck actually paying for the operation of it, let alone the initial construction/purchase of whatever system you come up with!

I'll end this derail, but yea, some areas are better suited for public transit than others.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





So apparently there is *one* advantage to getting old. I pay $80'ish per month combined to insure my Ford Fiesta and BMW M3 with full coverage (300k/500k liability limits).

I'm pretty sure if it cost $160+ per month for insurance when I was a teenager, I would have been doing a lot of walking and riding my bike.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Michael Scott posted:

When my route involves a ton of 4-way stops, I rarely make much of an effort to stop at them. Saves significant time/wear on the car, and I'm going slowly enough to see that no car is approaching on any side. Screw 4-way stops at every intersection.

I'm definitely getting a fat-rear end ticket someday which will negate this point. :( It's a bad habit.

When I was 17, I got my very first ticket for a rolling stop less than a block from my house. That lesson has stuck with me for over 30 years of driving and I still stop completely at every stop sign. It's saved me a few times when I've stopped, turned, and then in the mirror see a police officer parked down the road waiting for stop sign violators.

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The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





jaegerx posted:

I threw an empty bottle of water at a woman reading during stop and go Austin morning traffic. Had the book right up on her steering wheel. I have no regrets.

Was behind someone no I-10 this morning who was toodling along in the far left lane (non-carpool) at exactly the same speed as the vehicle to the right, no matter what speed that was. At the same time kept drifting halfway into the carpool lane and then jerking back. For miles and miles. When traffic eased up as I got near the office I moved into the right lane to go past, and it was a middle aged woman with a phone in her left hand, resting on the steering wheel, and a bunch of papers in her right hand, which she was reading. WTF. I honked a few times and she didn't even loving notice. Sometimes I'd truly love to be a cop, because she would have spent so much time on the side of the road getting chewed out (and getting tickets).

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