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Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Sasquatch! posted:

The difference between these two pictures shows a pretty stark stylistic difference. I also noticed RoboCop2014 doing some pretty graceful leaps and jumps, versus the CLUNK CLUNK CLUNK walking of the original RoboCop. That and - of course - the fact that he seems (based on the trailer) aware of everything.

Adding to that, there's a scene in the trailer where RoboCop steps down from a running board and the car doesn't move at all. Now the scene was very short and the car might actually be a tank. But to me it still looked like RoboCop doesn't weigh much more than a normal human being. Which just seems wrong.

And the jumping bits gave me serious flashbacks to the burly brawl from Matrix Reloaded. RoboCop seems practically weightless.

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Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

SALT CURES HAM posted:

I was deliberately being a pedant for shits and giggles, but I think you're getting the first movie mixed up with the second. :v:

The scene where a xenomorph chestbusts out of one of the settlers is the moments things go tits up for the Marines. It is a pretty important and (to some, at least) a very memorable moment.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.
On the topic of car bombs, cinematically they say to me "organized crime" or more specifically "the mob" more than "terrorism". When I see a car bomb exploding I see Robert DeNiro in Casino, or maybe Dolph Lundgren's partner in Punisher. I most definitely do not see a comment on terrorism, even though I know car bombs are a thing in the Middle East. That's because years and years of watching movies has taught me that if you piss off the mob, they will rig your car and blow you up.

What I'm saying is, I can believe that the movie wants to make statements about terrorism. It just uses faulty language, unless the chief "terrorist" in the movie happens to be portrayed by Joe Pesci.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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So the RoboCop trailer had drones, big deal. Avengers off-handedly mentioned wire-tapping the whole world and I don't see anybody praising that movie for that amazing piece of commentary.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

The trailer straight up says he's a drone with a human face.

That's because that's a fair way to describe him in a world where drones are public knowledge. It doesn't mean that they'll handle the accompanying commentary well. My point with bringing up The Avengers was that a movie can have those elements, and a remake of RoboCop will have those elements by default. I mean, they'd have to do really badly to not have any kind of subtext in a remake of RoboCop, but the trailers makes it look like it's going to be The Avengers kind of subtext and not the Verhoeven kind of subtext.

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Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.
Late to the party but I really liked this movie. A lot more than I thought I would, I've watched it twice so far and finally catching up with the thread makes me want to watch it for a third time.

I think the ending with RoboCop being with his family again is on par with the original's ending having RoboCop state that he is Murphy. Because much like RoboCop isn't Murphy no matter how much he'd like to be, Gary Oldman letting RoboCop finally be with his family doesn't change the fact that he's a brain in vat. I really liked how this was repeated throughout the moment when his wife tells RoboCop that "It's all right, we're gonna get through this" when the context makes it perfectly clear that no, you are not going to get through this. What you had is lost, deal with that.

I do wonder if that last sentence is a general statement the remake makes about the original, too.

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