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Mar 2, 2013

What's wrong with these people? What's right with them?!

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Mar 2, 2013

This sort of thing frustrates me. These Tropers would spout so much about Lovecraft and Starcraft and TV soaps yet somehow they are too lazy to actually experience these things. And yet they can get nearly every fact wrong, fail to understand the most basic of themes and yet still proclaim themselves as wise.

I thought that spergs research the poo poo out of their pointless things. Tropers are even too lazy to get part down.

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Mar 2, 2013

As someone who's pretty much playing Monster Girl Quest as penance for a prank gone wrong, I assure you, it is as bad as you think it is.

A porn game based on chicks raping you, no wonder tropers flock to this like flies on poo poo.

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Mar 2, 2013


Wait, I actually know this one! All three tropes which could just be summarized by "Unreliable Narrator".
But they have already have that!

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnreliableNarrator

It's basically based on the idea that the Narrator is lying to you, used to great effect in Lolita and Fight Club. And they somehow mess this up by not just having all of these lumped into one trope that already exists in literary media. It's not about being "naive" or "deceiving", the whole point is that the narrator is not one to trust, so we receive his biases and must discern what is truth and what is a lie. But who am I kidding, these are the guys who sincerely believe every lie that drips from Humbert's gaping maw, never questioning a drat thing.

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Mar 2, 2013

Seravadon posted:

Wait what? :psyduck:

To take a man's cheese is to take his very soul.

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Mar 2, 2013

Don Gato posted:

Didn't something like that happen to every troper goons thought was a good one?

Annebeeche seemed to come out okay. I haven't heard from her since her "Ye olde english translator" thread but I think she didn't melt down like Dionysus.

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Mar 2, 2013

Either way they're not allowed to talk about their troper experiences, as per the rules. Shame, it was kind of fun hearing TvTropes implode like a failing government firsthand.

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Mar 2, 2013

Penny Paper posted:

Is that Troper Bingo card still around? Or can we make a new one?

Also, if it hasn't been discussed yet, I'd like to introduce you to the single most annoying page in all the site (and, given the website, that's a stretch): And the Fandom Rejoiced, featuring tropers squealing like 'tards over cartoons. I would put examples up, but I'd sooner drink a bottle of Liquid Plumr.

It's even more inane when they've stated over and over that they'll be "academic", even though "Tropers happy about something" is just that. There's nothing to analyze nor is it part of fiction.

Circlejerkers about a goddamn pony cartoon. posted:


•A new My Little Pony series? Well considering how lame the latest couple of adaptations has been it probably isn't going to be anything specia — wait, Lauren Faust is in charge of it?!? Male characters? They're bringing back Applejack with her G1 color scheme?! A villain for the first time since G1? Winged Unicorns?!? Well, this might be awesome.

G1? Transformer lingo? Phrasing everything like a question? Obnoxious? Why do you say that?

I'd post more, but no joke my laptop is literally scrolling upwards everytime I'm trying to read this thing.

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Mar 2, 2013

GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:

Well, they're right within the context of the monologue. It actually is treated as being a totally good thing and not at all horrible. The text actually describes it as "a good rape."

Of course, that is in and of itself supremely hosed up, but it's not the Tropers' fault this time.

TvTropes Pleads the Fifth: It's Not the Tropers' Fault This Time

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Mar 2, 2013

Wales Grey posted:

Wiki vandalism like this is pretty pointless, it'll just get reverted. If they were brighter, they'd introduce wrong or hurtful information first and then have a number of alternate accounts vandalize the page via other IPs.

Why did you say that? Fast Eddie's now going to (continue to) believe that we're trying to destroy his "precious academic site for intellectuals."

In all seriousness I have to sympathize with that guy. Too bad his actions are just going to fall on deaf ears and blind eyes.

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Mar 2, 2013

Wait, ponies with XCOM? Why? The gently caress do ponies have anything to do with an alien invasion simulator? I know it's probably minor compared to the rest, but why? Why can't you Bronies just like something and not try to stitch everything together like a demented Dr. Frankenstein?

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Mar 2, 2013

Lottery of Babylon posted:



Stardust by Arad is a My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic/XCOM: Enemy Unknown and XCOM: Enemy Within (yes, really) crossover fanfic.

Que literal saga amounts of ponies.

I hate you. No, I'm just, agh :suicide:.

There was a discussion in the XCOM thread about a game where XCOM fights the forces of hell. Is this it?

Even though I find it funny XCOM wouldn't just gut the talking quadrepeds seeing as that's what XCOM does.

But nope, everything is for bronies. Ponies for the gods of madness bronies.

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Mar 2, 2013

Purple Prose: A term used for passages that are extravagant for it's own sake. How can TvTropes take a simple negative term and twist it around?

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There are times within the life of any teller of tales in which they are faced with a situation most dire: the writing, while not lacking in such delightful virtues as a sturdy coherent plot or rich characterization, is supremely dry and uninteresting to read.

In response, the writer chooses to indulge in the writing technique known to gentlefolk as Purple Prose, wherein the writing becomes much more florid, eschewing quotidian sentences for elaborate concatenation of phrases and clauses. On occasion, such racks of ornament can be despicable, with the scintillating adjectives bewildering the reader and obscuring the subject.note In the worst case scenario, such prose will reduce readers to skim reading for fear of trudging through pages and pages of mundane description slowly and painfully, just as violet-tinted patches on a garment incompatibly hued are agonizing for a human being's photon detectors.

The writing style is named after a quote by Roman poet Horace (65-8 BC, making this Older Than Feudalism), who compared writing such prose to sewing purple patches to clothing. This practice was a common means to show pretentiousness in wealth, since purple dye was an expensive rarity. "Purple Patches" is used when the writer only occasionally breaks into purple, like scintillating arrays of diamonds appearing incongruously in mire, which can make much of the text more readable but less consistent, so the reader is jolted from one style to the other. (Consistent purple prose at least lets the reader get into the swing of things.)

Several excellent examples, things of beauty and confusion, can be found on the quotes page. This trope does not cover works in a florid but not intrusive style — the sacrifice of Utility on the altar of Eloquence is an essential feature of Purple Prose. It should also be noted that Purple Prose usually pairs flamboyant vocabulary with fairly plain grammar (that can get outright primitive in extreme cases) which differentiates it from true Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness. Bear in mind that Tropes Are Tools. Some of the examples below are intentional: the Purple Prose is a stylistic choice, a comedic turn or in aid of characterisation.

Compare contrastingly with the phenomenon given the appellation of Beige Prose. Seek furthermore the silicon entries known as: Walls of Text, Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness, and Meaningless Meaningful Words. Mills and Boon Prose is a Sub-Trope; furthermore, that affliction known as Said Bookism is a customary peculiarity of this mode of communication. Some communications open on the traditional Dark And Stormy Night. When narrators characterise their visual appearance via a Description in the Mirror, the resultant prose oftentimes can be purple. See also Name That Unfolds Like Lotus Blossom, for when this is applied to names.

Of course, by doing just that? What better example than do so do themselves. It's not like anyone just wants a clear cut answer for your definition, like say Wikipedia.

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Mar 2, 2013

Lottery of Babylon posted:

Nothing wrong with writing the purple prose page in purple prose. :colbert:

You can't fool me with your book smarts and your big words. Short and simple is the best prose style.

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Mar 2, 2013

Love is crazy, full of chemicals and feelings. So mix crazy people with crazy love and anime. What do you get? Yanderes.

TvTropes posted:

The word "yandere", a term that blossomed in moe fandom, refers to a character who is crazy about someone else...often literally and violently. Despite the anime-inspired name, this type of character is much, much older than that, as one of the earliest examples is the Mesopotamian goddess Ishtar (Inanna).
Yanderes are usually identifiable by their blank eyes when they go crazy, blood being soaked on them for the majority of their screentime, carrying at least one signature weapon that they use to kill and/or attack others for the majority of their screentime, a mostly Moe appearance or at least an appearance that will deceive others, psychotic behavior, and a tendency to attack and/or kill people who would get in the way of his/her love. Many of them are Ax-Crazy. When on the Good Guys' team, they are often the Token Evil Teammate.
The character almost always appears perfectly cute and harmless on the surface... but underneath they may be obsessive, controlling, and sometimes just plain insane. Woe to anyone who happens to be the object of their often genuine affection. Even more pity should be saved for anyone who gets in the way — the psycho-obsessive is amazingly unwilling to put up with any rivals (but the rivals had it coming). There could be a long mental instability; the boy's/girl's always been just a little bit off. Could be the vicious product of Break the Cutie. Often eventually goes off the deep end and becomes an Ax-Crazy Boy With Psycho Weapon/Girl with Psycho Weapon, and that's just fun. May also be Not Good With Rejection. As a result, they are potentially scary.
Such characters are mostly female, but male examples exist.
Compare with the Violently Protective Girlfriend, who can become Ax-Crazy when the love interest is in danger, but is otherwise MUCH more stable mentally. See also Living Emotional Crutch for a reason why she goes from affectionate to murderous.
More details are available on the Analysis page, such as its history and its appeal.
Part of the dere family along with Tsundere (unapproachable outside, sweet inside), or sub groups; Kuudere (cold outside, sweet inside), and Dandere (asocial outside, sweet inside). However, those are all sweet inside, while the Yandere is sweet outside, crazy inside. Also compare Cute and Psycho, who is also sweet and crazy, but whose craziness isn't tied to love.
See also Clingy Jealous Girl, her Spear Counterpart Crazy Jealous Guy, Love Makes You Evil, Love Makes You Crazy, Stalker with a Crush, Domestic Abuser, Violently Protective Girlfriend, and If I Can't Have You. Compare Stepford Smiler and Psycho Supporter. May God have mercy on you if you are caught in a Psychotic Love Triangle (a love triangle with two members being Yanderes).Contrast with Bitch in Sheep's Clothing, in which a character is consciously using the illusion of purity and niceness to cover up a sadistic true nature (though a BISC can become a Yandere if we add mental instability to the mix). At the extreme, A Love to Dismember can occur. Due to their often violent nature, they are likely to be The Unfettered. The more savage examples also very likely to be Faux Affably Evil. Don't confuse with Yandere Kanojo, a manga which surprisingly doesn't involve actual yandere (except for one case, in which the victim had it coming. It ends well, though).
One may be compelled to wonder why the object of their affections doesn't just shoot them.
It should be noted that while many below listed examples are drama and horror ones, this trope is not exclusively Played for Drama. It might just as well be Played for Laughs through Comedic Sociopathy and/or Black Comedy as it is for drama or horror.
Almost all the examples listed below are spoilers, so read at your own risk, tee-hee!
Wait, you're leaving? No, don't leave! I thought I was the perfect read! I saved my best editing for you! You have to stay...!
I'll make you stay...

This is why you don't stick your dick in crazy.

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Mar 2, 2013

NobbytheSheep posted:

Did the MLP:FIM military wank fic people make a reference to the Balkan wars? They did, didn't they? And the Falklands. Sorry, my mistake. Foalklands.

Do bronies have some kind of weird hard-on for the military or something? First Fallout Equestria and now this. They do seem to like putting their cute colourful ponies in war situations.

Conservative bronies man. Also it's them tryng to make a children's show DARK AND GRITTY.

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Mar 2, 2013

Bronies are like chefs who always put their favorite spices on everything, even on things where it doesn't belong. Like chili powder on shaved ice or a bucket of cumen in chicken soup. Grim/dark with ponies is like blending a pizza with an apple pie, spread over diced pigs feet, and served with coke.

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Mar 2, 2013

Lotto, why do you keep showing us these monstrosities? These horribly written passages, thousands of words that serve only to make banal fanfic. Clashing themes that don't even work plot-wise, character-wise or at least have anything worth while. Jeez it's like fishing with dynamite when mixing tropers with bronies.

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Mar 2, 2013

HorseRenoir posted:

How do you even explain this to other people? "Sorry dad, I got the computer infected with a virus looking for pregnant My Little Pony fanfic!"

That implies that they're not social misfits, incapable of speaking outside the lens of a Tv show.

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Mar 2, 2013

Plus he was against the traditions of the time, which was kind of taboo in a country so hard set in its ways.

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Mar 2, 2013

Punting posted:

How so? What sort of things did he oppose? Actually kind of curious, I've never heard anything about him being any sort of iconoclast, just generically mean and ambitious.

His dad committed seppuku for Oda's general laziness. This led to many things such as killing a bunch of invading monks who had religious immunity in the country, aiding peasantry, and most notably known for his love of firearms. I'm not completely sure but he also wanted to create a rational society for the public.

I'm not the best to explain this, the Civ 5 thread is better at explaining just how little he cares for the cultures of the time. I still don't know how tropers would be against a guy who in our culture would be like the guys who wrote the Declaration of Independence other than "For nippon".

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Mar 2, 2013

Tardigrade posted:

While breaking my scroll-thumb trying to flick past page 150, I noticed the recurring reference to the Ahuizotl, an Aztec mythological creature. The page's history is a mildly amusing tale of bronies inserting a Pop Culture section and then getting it deleted. Over and over again.



At least Wikipedia has some degree of quality control. :unsmith:

Thank you Wikipedia for simply saying, get the gently caress out bronies, no one wants you in our Aztec folklore.

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Mar 2, 2013

Xander77 posted:

I can't find it at the moment, but someone on That Guy With the Glasses made a joke about a movie like Anastasia Disney-fying the Holocaust. And there's a page for that movie on tvtropes. With tropes, characters, "Tearjerking moments" and all.

I find that a bit more disturbing than a collective waste of time about ponies.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/JustForFun/DisneysAnneFrank

I don't believe that souls exist, but if they did, I think mine just died a little.

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Mar 2, 2013

Penny Paper posted:

Meaning what exactly?

An all inclusive hugbox where everyone likes each other based on something they watched. TvTropes takes it further by making so you don't even have to actually watch the things they're talking about, all with labels scattered around to make things seem busy and thoughtful.

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Mar 2, 2013

TvTropes posted:

Blue and Orange Morality
Ye who walk with the Path of Bacon shall be given breakfast. Yet ye who follow the Way of Necktie shall be put in appropriate attire.

"We cannot do wrong; neither have we any disposition to do it, for we do not know what it is."
— The Mysterious Stranger

To say that questions of morality are thorny and filled with gray when they aren't being hammered between stark absolutes is putting it mildly. Because of this there can be great drama when characters who represent a wide range of moral viewpoints come together or into conflict.

The strangest of these characters are those who espouse Blue And Orange Morality. These characters have a moral framework that is so utterly alien and foreign to human experience that we can't peg them as good or evil. They aren't a Chaotic Neutral Unfettered, though they may seem to act terrifyingly randomly; nor are they necessarily a Lawful Neutral Fettered, because our and their understanding of 'law' as a concept may not even be equivalent. There might be a logic behind their actions, it's just that they operate with entirely different sets of values and premises with which to draw their conclusions. It's also worth noting that such cultures are just as likely to be something we'd find appalling, as they are to be something we'd find benign and/or weird. They may also find us appalling, benign, or weird even if we don't see them that way.

That doesn't make them bad. And although they are often likely to commit acts we would see as horrific, some are unusually benign. Either way they tend to act as if nothing were the matter. Because in their world/mind, that's just what they do. This trope is one of the trickier to pull off well, because Most Writers Are Human, and it's often hard to portray alien truly foreign.

Basically "Writing is hard."

This is similar to Values Dissonance, but the main difference is that societies with Values Dissonance can, at least on a basic level, generally measure one another by the same concepts of Good and Evil, or even Order and Chaos. With Blue and Orange Morality, the values are so foreign, that such concepts can no longer be applied. They may not even know what these things are, or even if they do, will often find them confusing. The concepts are not necessarily beyond their grasp, mind you, but are just not something which they'd place any importance on.

Conversely, they may have these concepts, but apply them in vastly different ways. Such as regarding motionlessness as the epitome of evil, or viewing exploration as an element of chaos.

Note that cases involving solely a misapprehension of facts and consequences do not count here no matter how alien the reasons; if, for example, a race of aliens thinks killing is okay because its own members respawn within a day with no harm done, and mistake humans as working the same way, that doesn't mean they wouldn't balk at killing if they realized the degree of harm it causes to other creatures. In this case, they may be working by comprehensible moral standards and just gravely mistaken about the implications of their actions.

Likely candidates for Blue and Orange Morality include The Fair Folk, who follow rules of their own making; Eldritch Abominations that are beyond comprehension; the more exotic Starfish Aliens; AIs and robots, especially when super smart and incapable of emotion. An individual human (or single members of any species whose majority is using the greyscale morality) who operates on this is the Übermensch of Nietzschean philosophy (a human being who has developed their own Blue/Orange set of morals). A Nominal Hero may have this motivation as well. Moral Sociopathy overlaps strongly with this trope for obvious reasons, though this is not always the case.

Compare Xenofiction, Humans Are Cthulhu, Humanity Is Infectious (all often involving this), Non-Malicious Monster (sometimes requires this), Above Good and Evil, Affably Evil / Faux Affably Evil (they sometimes can come across as this), Even Evil Has Standards (when handled poorly or bizarrely), and Evil Cannot Comprehend Good (less elaborate forms that resemble this in practice). When two sides go to war and nothing will stop them except total annihilation, that's Guilt-Free Extermination War.

Has nothing to do with the following: Bucknell University, The University of Illinois, The University of Virginia, The University of Florida, Auburn University, Syracuse University, Hope College, Gettysburg College, Boise State University or the flag of Ukraine (the colors of all of which are blue and orange, albeit different shades in each case). Nor the Denver Broncos, Chicago Bears, New York Knicks, New York Mets, or Mango Sentinels. Or the City of New York, for that matter. Furthermore, do not confuse with Blue and Orange Movies. Also has nothing to do with the Karma Meter in Mass Effect nor the Aperture Science Hand Held Portal Device or even the light scheme in TRON and its universe.

This entire paragraph is stupid. Because you use loving colors rather than just using a different term you literally believe that others would be confused about places that use blue and orange with your dumb article.
Why can't they say "Characters with morality incomprehensible to our own"?

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Mar 2, 2013

Ninjasaurus posted:

Not pictured: a My Little Pony avatar.

You spoke too soon. Either way I find it hilarious that he hasn't considered all problems of Misandry resulted from the self imposed restrictions of the patriarchy. Basically it's the guys' fault for their own darn problems but nope, got to blame it on the women.

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Mar 2, 2013

There is some truth that characters could redeem themselves when offing another character. An easy one was when Dearth Vader killed Palpatine to save Luke. But usually that requires things like a change of heart, or sacrificing themselves for the heroes. Usually it ends with them dead but it can be done.

On another note it doesn't make sense in logic form. If A >= Good and B >= Bad, then A + A = more Good and B + B = more Bad. If killing a rapist is "good" (I'm not going to even get into that can of worms) and the person killing is bad, then A + B != 0 or Good because the murder would have to be valued greater than the badness of the killer. And since most troper style villains are genocidal anime stereotypes a murder of one bad guy is not greater then the deaths of innocent lives. So a troper would think that killing a rapist is an act that would make a villain a better character as if murdering another guy wipes the slate clean of all his crimes, as if it didn't matter, like bad comic book writers.

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Mar 2, 2013

Last time I checked elements on the periodic table only combine, change, or decompose based on specific requirements and properties of said elements. So especially here you cannot expect plutonium to be melted with iron and have that somehow crap out gold.

And even here they're a bunch of lazy cocks because who uses a number for the initials of a frakking elemental group. Even with combined compounds you still have to list the electrobonds for every element and they can't even do that right. I sucked at chemistry in high school and even I know that no way in hell the "Avatar Compound" could be possible, hell they don't even list the individual elements used in the show.

And the best thing is, not a single classical form of lit to be seen. No Shakespeare, Poe, Dickens, Orwell, Stoker or at the very least if you're desperate a Peter Palahnuik novel. This is perfect, a science based on connections and tropers don't understand, gee I wonder why?

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Mar 2, 2013

I still like the treehouse horror stories. Even the newer ones I found to be enjoyable. Still no gonna check that on TvTropes. You may have ruined the Simpsons for me but not on this, I draw the line.

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Mar 2, 2013

Tiberius Thyben posted:

TvTropes: it's not unreasonable to assume they are sex slaves

TvTropes: Everything Is A Sexual Subversion

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Mar 2, 2013

Khazar-khum posted:

When the only topic is sex?

I would pay so much just to see their disgusted faces when they actually talk about their fetishes face to face.

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Mar 2, 2013

Don Gato posted:

I dunno, maybe they'd actually try to go through with what they're saying? :gooncamp: wouldn't even begin to scratch the tip of the iceberg then.

Then they are more ballsy than I imagined. At least we can't say that they're virgins anymore :v:

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Mar 2, 2013

Ninjasaurus posted:

Destroy anime and arrest weeaboos/otakus. It's the only way to be sure.

But that means destroying any chance of more JoJo. Do you really want to deprive the world of fabulous?

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Mar 2, 2013

ANIME MONSTROSITY posted:

Trap music (also known as Neo-crunk) is a rather polarizing style of hip-hop and electronic music that has gained large popularity over 2012 and 2013. Trap music is a started as an emergent style in southern rap that is characterized by spare beats, sharp snare hits, deep bass notes and simple rhymes about gangster cliches (this isn't a diss at the genres expense mind you, the lyrical aspects are not of much importance to the genre since the main appeal is the beat and vibe the song generates, so lyrics are often simple as a result). All of this creates a dark, slightly abrasive, and hedonistic vibe. While the Ur Examples are from different parts of the southern United States, the major players of trap music such as Gucci Mane, Waka Flocka Flame, T.I. And Young Jeezy are all from Atlanta, and many newcomers to the genre are also from Atlanta. Many Hip-hopheads were against the genre, claiming it's simple lyrics are boneheaded and just dumb club music, while defenders state that the simplicity is the reason why it is such dumb fun. However the genre did catch on with many, namely EDM Musicians who have created a much more dancier instrumental songs. Another group that caught on were the up-and-coming rappers from Chicago, who created drill music, a style that emphasizes the violence on the streets of Chiraq and put a face to the issues that previous conscious Chicago rappers talked about.

Wikipedia would like their passage back.

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Mar 2, 2013

Earlier Babylon shown the thread how tropers can gently caress up XCOM. Since they can't even understand simple videogame plots, I got to looking on their Nightmare Fuel page.

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Remember those Mutons and how they're supposed to be the front line troops for the invaders? They can take some serious punishment, soaking bullets to the face, to say nothing of their elite counterparts. Now, let's go to South America's continent bonus, "We Have Ways", which allows all interrogations and autopsies to be completed immediately. Just what are they doing to the Mutons to make them talk so fast?
Dude, dissecting and torture. Dr.Vahlen literally does just that for every alien. The South Americans bonus was because they were good at that sort of thing.

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The Terror missions. You hear screams and panicking in the background while you're attempting to rescue an isolated group of civilians, who are being picked off one by one by aliens. They're also probably going to be the first time you'll meet the Chryssalids. Huh? They killed a civilian, you say? What!? THE CIVILIAN IT KILLED CAME BACK TO LIFE!?
I'll admit that Chryssalids are scary the first time you fight them, but zombies, really? I don't think anyone would be scared of a tiny zombie on a big screen. It's a tactics game, not horror.

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The Sectopods have a long range, and it's possible that it can hit you without you being aware of its existence, because its attack range is greater than its sight range. Your first encounter with a Sectopod would most likely involve a giant loving laser coming out of nowhere.
Unless you have a glitch, which in XCOM is rife with, that doesn't happen. Sectopods only activate when seen. By then you already have the tech to chew them up, unless you suck at this game.

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The tutorial, if you played the first game when you see the soldier in the warehouse, you just know he is gonna frag you, and there is nothing you can do to keep yourself from dying.

On that note, the whole tutorial can be considered one. You know full well that there will be only one survivor...
You get more guys and it's supposed to tell you this is how the game's going to be, but tropers make it sound like they got PTSD from a scripted event.

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Ethereals. Sectoids and Sectoid Commanders can pull off some pretty nasty psionic moves. With Ethereals, this is all they do. One Ethereal, and your squad goes from a highly disciplined team armed with high-tech weaponry to a terrified group, cowering from psionic attacks and the weapons of their own comrades suffering from the effects of Mind Rape.
Leave it to Tropers to find rape in anything. Last time I checked most players one shot the suckers before poo poo goes down. End game most guys just rocket to finish the psy-guys.

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The News Ticker in the Situation room will paint a very grim and bleak picture if you're doing poorly against the aliens.
The game being solemn in trying times of war? Truly terrifying.

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One of the Vendor Trash that you can collect after capturing the alien base is the "Alien Food", a nutritious slurry eaten by the aliens. The description reveals that the soup contains unmistakable traces of human DNA. With that in mind, just think about what happens to all the civilians that gets abducted, or the unpleasant implications on what will happen to the body of your fallen soldiers if you are unable to retrieve them due to the mission being aborted.
Now we have something actually scary, although it's more disturbing than anything. Creepy infotexts ooh spooky.

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Site Recon. It's a Council Mission in Enemy Within where the team is dispatched to investigate a distress signal from a Canadian fishing village. The regular military rescuers have gone silent. You land at the village and start to progress through it. Then, zombies start popping up. This looks bad, because where there's zombies, there's Chryssalids. You push through the village, to find a wrecked whaling ship, where the sharks and a captured whale are being used to incubate an army of Chryssalids. And more and more are getting birthed every round. Central makes it clear that you've only got one option: fight through the horde of Chryssalids to activate the boat's transponder so XCOM can direct an airstrike to wipe out the entire village. Then, once you've managed to pull that off, Chryssalids start pouring out of the whale-hive, and you've got to make a mad dash back to the landing site before either the airstrike wipes you out, or the Chryssalids catch up....
More frightening; the text during and after the mission implies that this infection happened before they were fished up. This makes sense given the scene; it looks like the ship crashed into the village, rather than docking with it. While XCOM states that they will attempt to prevent it from happening again, the fact that Chrysalids could infect the oceans is pretty drat scary.
They quote the drat thing like an FBI document. Anyways the cryssalids are fodder tier for most in that mission. Tense yes, but it's not like the Ring, so stop being such a wimp tropers. Grow a pair, or ovaries depending on circumstance.

And the one they find most terrifying, otherworldly horrors, callousness of combat troops? Nope it's making your guys into goddamn Space Marines.

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While the surgery isn't shown, MEC Troopers giving up their arms and legs, along what appear to other parts of their body, is horrifying to picture even if it is voluntary.
Soldiers sacrifcing themselves for the greater good of mankind is scary? Man I would love to see them meet a veteran in real life, they'd probably see them as monsters.

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The worst thing about the MEC Troopers is that, unlike Space Marine Dreadnoughts or Protoss Dragoons/Immortals, it's not just critically wounded soldiers getting put into mechanical suits so that they can keep on serving. Instead, MEC Troopers are men and women that voluntarily amputate their own perfectly fine limbs and replace their organs with machines, just so they can have better combat effectiveness. It is both heroic and scary at the same time.
What part of turning into a Space Marine with a Lascannon and Power Fist do you not understand?

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Also, their voices. MEC Troopers speak in a borderline Creepy Monotone with a filter effect that makes their voices sound computer synthesized. Makes you wonder how much of their humanity they traded for an arm-mounted flamethrower.
Has autotuned voice = turned Skynet. It's totally not just some asphetic value.

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I had this thought too, first time I made a MEC Trooper. While my regular soldiers were saying things like "He's down" or "Out of the game" there' a giant robot walking around, sticking to very concise things like "Alien pacified" "Kill confirmed." Said worries were put aside, however, when she charges into a room and point-blanks a Chrysallid who's about to eat my sniper with a particle cannon. The dust clears, and her synthesised, butchered voice speaks two words: "Good Riddance!" To me it seems that as they gain ranks, MEC Troopers regain some of their lost humanity and become pretty snarky.
This troper can sort of confirm the above; his MEC colonel once calmly remarked "Vehicle fire detected," after the third car in a row exploded. If that ain't snark...
You mean the exact same lines and same amount of lines for everyone else? Because I checked, rank in mec does not affect the amoint of lines you have. This guy's literally pulling things out his rear.

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It's worth mentioning that, most likely to audio clip limitations, Zhang maintains his regular voice even after being turned into a MEC trooper. If viewed from the right angle, this can come off as a Crowning Moment Of Awesome and Heroic Willpower
Or Firaxis couldn't be assed to give him autotune.

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While the description is probably meant to be hopeful, the fact that the base augments (the skeletal limbs that the MEC Trooper wears while not in an MEC) are intended to "hopefully" allow the soldier to return to a normal life if XCOM wins the war, is kind of frightening. It's a case of technology and necessity outpacing long-term considerations: MEC Troopers will never be human again, and it shows.
Again bullshit. In game we have gene mods that give a second heart and rapid regeneration. Those guys would be able to have limbs again. These tropers keep trying to sound smart, and then out themselves to be ignorant.

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MEC Troopers are unable to be deployed onto the battlefield without their actual MECs, even though they always have a set of arms and legs available. The given reason for this is that the cybernetic arms and legs made for off-duty hours aren't agile enough to be used. Think about that for a moment. Normal humans can certainly go off into battle, but MEC soldiers without their suits can't. As powerful as the suit may be, a MEC Trooper is even less capable than a normal human without it.
That's why they have Power Armor, why would you not use the tech they were built for?

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Though do bear in mind that the Base Augments are made using regular steel, circuitry and batteries. Considering what the Alien Alloys and Elerium do for all your other tech, it's not hard to imagine biologically-par augments being made. Hell, by the time you're done with levelling and Foundry projects, the actual giant hulking robot suits have roughly the same dexterity, speed and combat options as your flesh-and-blood soldiers.
Yes because Humans can use Particle Cannons and Power Fists, oh wait they can't. They'd melt. Because it's too powerful and harmful to humans, because they aren't Mecs.

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Let's think about this from the alien mooks' perspective, shall we? So your leaders tell you to forcibly uplift a primitive race known as humans. Pah, easy you say. These primitive apes are still using ballistics weaponry and they haven't even figured out practical spaceflight yet. So you send out the Sectoids to start abducting. And then, out of nowhere, a squad of four of these humans shows up and slaughters your advance guard (assuming you didn't play the tutorial). Okay, you think. We'll send in the Thin Men, Floaters, Mutons, and Chryssalids. They get slaughtered. Then, your spacecraft start getting shot down by this same mysterious group of humans. Now, the rumors have started among the rank and file of a horrific creature known only as "Doctor Vahlen," who will capture you, place you in a glass pod, and stick probes into your brain to gain information on you! And THEN, this same group of humans, having turned your own weapons against you, breaches your base and utterly slaughters everyone inside. They never leave any survivors, and they always take the corpses to their horrific underground base to be dissected and used as weapons. So you start bringing out the bigger guns: Sectoid Commanders, Muton Berserkers, Muton Elites, Sectopods, Cyberdisks, more powerful spacecraft, the works. They're all slaughtered, even when you attack their base. And those psionics that gave you a massive edge early in the invasion? The humans have them too, and they'll use them, chortling horrifically while they do it. You think you have it bad? Try being a platoon of Thin Men or Sectoids on a Council mission going up against a squad of Colonels and Majors.
The aliens are literally mindless drones and servants of the Ethereals. They don't know these things. They don't get superior, because they're slaves.
The end of the game tells you that.

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Mar 2, 2013

System Metternich posted:

Man, no kidding. :v:

To be fair to tropers, subjects concerning teenagers coming to terms with their sexuality are rather touchy and complicated.

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Mar 2, 2013

FrozenVent posted:

What would a T+ cup even look like anyway?



Conservatively speaking.

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Mar 2, 2013

Spalec posted:

A google search for T cup bra led me to this:



:haw:

That looks like something Madonna or Lady GaGa would wear.

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Mar 2, 2013

tacodaemon posted:

How fortuitously timed for Venn's birthday!

Real talk though, there's a somewhat famous specialty bra store in NYC called Linda's. They say that their new employees have to go through a three-month training program before they are allowed to do custom bra fitting for customers. And even that place only advertises up to N cup.

I think Venn never intended to make his charts for discussing grossly disproportionate honkers :v:. But still, 3 months to learn how to fit bras? That's comparable to suit fitting as far as I know. Oh what would I do for a goon to open a tell thread on that.

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Burkion posted:

Knowing how hazardous those size of breasts are to human beings?

VERY carefully and, if I remember, not flat on your back.

Seriously those are health hazards and can kill you.

AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT DUMB TROPE ABOUT USING BREASTS AS WEAPONS I MEAN LITERALLY THEY WILL KILL YOU, THE PERSON WHO OWNS THOSE BREASTS

gently caress Tropers

The only people I know to date to ruin boobs for me are goons pointing out that sometimes big is too big, and tropers saying "yours is as big as your head, no, we need to go bigger". Now it's just one more reason to not like Tropers.

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