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Wait, the guy wrote a script that actively checks for sockpuppets, and made it publicly available? Meanwhile, he has two sockpuppets of his own - one where he pretends to be an attractive asian woman (  ) as well as another sockpuppet who he claims died.And at no point did he think that in making this script publicly available somebody might consider using it on him and realise that he is pretending to be an attractive asian woman. There is not enough  in the world.
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Are Con Langs Necessary for FantasyThe Muse posted:So I've been working on a series that's a high fantasy type thing, it takes place in a completely different world with different cultures and races and such. Obviously, they're not all going to speak the same language. But I've looked up resources online for language creation and I lack the time and skill to do it efficiently (seriously, how they hell is one to top Tolkien's Con Lang -s?) I've thought up a few solutions to this My fantasy world can't work unless I have sperged about literally every detail. Like honestly, how do you write yourself into a corner before you've even written anything at all?
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Sep 15, 2013 03:27
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The worst thing about Writers Block is that in the entire list of stupid threads, not once have they got one called "What are your story's themes?" In fact, googling "TV tropes theme" gives you one page titled "Central Theme" which just lists the themes of the various items they have a page for once in like three words and without any discussion or exploration whatsoever, and the rest is about theme tunes or theme naming. It really hits home the idea that Tropers have no idea what a book, a TV show, a movie, or even a non-pornographic anime is meant to do.
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Sep 15, 2013 09:54
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TV Tropes is occasionally useful as a resource for finding something you want to read/watch: i.e. I just read this book and I liked the way it did X, I will now find other books that have done ostensibly done X according to Tropers and sift through that to find things that actually do X. Thats really the only use of TV Tropes, other than the huge compendiums of random non-analysis related stuff of which some might possibly be interesting to read just by law of averages. As a resource for literary analysis its loving useless, because Tropers really don't understand literature, analysis, or the stuff that they sperg about.
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Sep 18, 2013 03:33
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TV Tropes hasn't created Nadsat - its unintentionally created 1984's Newspeak. Think about it. TV Tropes takes complex, nuanced ideas and compresses them into bite-sized phrases, destroying the meanings and any nuance they may have ever had. "Alex DeLarge is portrayed as a psychopath who robs, rapes, and assaults innocent people chosen at random for his own amusement" becomes "Alex DeLarge is a Complete Monster Jerkass Woobie Evil is Sexy Anti-Hero.", and all the meaning in the first sentence is completely lost to anybody who reads it. "Don't you see that the whole aim of Tv Tropes is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thought-crime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it." - Fast Eddie.
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Sep 21, 2013 03:45
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Metal Loaf posted:
I have actually had people say this to me in real life, in a public space. Minus the mockery of my sex life, that's almost word for word what he said. On that note I actually know a few tropers in real life. They are just as insufferable spergs in person as they are onlineonline
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Sep 23, 2013 02:40
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Troper wants to turn a Norse saga into a steampunk YA novel. Flails desperately when she realizes that she'll need a miracle for it to not be poo poo, fails to take the hint and abandon her worthless idea. I think you may have missed this from that thread.  Pay attention to the username.
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Apple Tree posted:I mean an officially anime site, not a stealth anime site. Are anime fans creating their own places, or do they just keep moving in and changing other places? That would require a weeaboo actually being able to code. And weeaboos are even less capable of anything useful than insufferable spergbots like the average troper. Spergbots actually know HTML.
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Sep 23, 2013 16:01
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The Monkey Man posted:He mentioned his real name and the story in his profile, but I'm taking it down anyway. Actually, I think Eliezer Yudkovsky is his real name. He's actually a publicly known computer scientist, and he operates professionally under that name. Eliezer Yudkovsky actually is basically a troper in the professional field as well. He apparently has no formal degree, no published research and is self educated. He'd dedicated his professional life to working on keeping AIs 'friendly' in the supposedly inevitable and imminent event of the singularity (which is, according to him, when artificial intelligences will finally become smarter than humans), and has set up a whole institute funded by public donations for this. If that sounds like a strange doomsday cult, I don't blame you. Anyway, a lot of people think he's a crank for a lot of reasons, notably because he doesn't do very much of anything actually useful. I think one guy I read said something along the lines of "Well, thats great, but I don't care if you don't have any actual code on the table." To use a rough analogy, Yudkovsky is like a man who really, really wants a dog. He spends all his time talking about how much he loves dogs, and what he'd do with a dog when he'd get one, and making all these great recipes for dog food and everything. One day, he finally has enough money to buy a dog. He then goes out, buys a doghouse, and goes back to what he was doing before. He's not an idiot in the field, just strangely focused on one thing of no particular use to anybody but his own interests. If the guy put this much effort into non-lovely AI research, I think we'd all be better off for it. He's also deluded himself into thinking that he can write, but thats a whole different kettle of fish. Eliezer Yudkovsky is basically what happens when Tropers leave school. EDIT: LaughMyselfTo posted:The only way I was able to take Methods Of Rationality without going insane was assuming that Yudkowsky was not intending to criticize the original work. I don't think he is - he's just a lovely writer who's really bad at making his point, and it comes off as him criticising everything because he can't write fiction. I haven't read it properly, because I'd rather stab myself in the eye, but I get the impression that he's attempting to write a book about how to apply rationality to your day to day life, using Harry Potter as a background for how to apply rationality and rational thought into situations where its not apparently useful. Its just that he's really, really bad at writing, so what you get is HPMOR. If the guy wrote a textbook or a manual or something, it probably wouldn't be so bad. But he's deluded himself into thinking that he's a rational genius and thus everything he touches is gold, so what you get is, well, utter garbage. MinistryofLard fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Sep 28, 2013 |
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Jesus, that is the most idiotic, offensive, and ridiculous way to explain moral relativism imaginable. Its like he doesn't get that his writing is still meant to appeal to people, with a traditional people sense of morality, and just overshoots the mark completely. Moral relativism does seem to be the domain of fat goony neckbeards on the internet who try to claim they are Nietzschean ubermenschen to justify their pedophilia and Tropers have claimed that opposing child pornography is just 'Western morals', and that loving thirteen year olds is a-ok in Japan because moral relativism so I can see why they like Yudkovsky's 'literature'.
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Sep 30, 2013 07:07
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Strom Cuzewon posted:I thought that's what he was going to do. The story is about humanity finding aliens with incomprehensible and repugnant morals, so for him to suddenly reveal that the humans also have incomprehensible and repugnant morals is a pretty neat development. I think thats what it comes down to. Does he really think that women really want to be raped? Possibly, maybe even probably, but we can't be sure. But even if he didn't, should he have gone, "Hang on, lets be realistic here. I lack the ability to write this in a way that isn't offensive and does not communicate the impression that I am condoning this. I shouldn't write this and pick a different topic to use as an example." Most definitely. But Yudkovsky has built himself a weird cult of people who praise his work and doesn't actually try to publish it, so nobody ever tells him he's an awful writer because if you don't charge money for your poo poo nobody is going to go on the internet and blog about how he's a loving moron or whatever, so he never realises that he's an awful writer and unable to handle writing sensitive topics with sufficient tact. The weirdo-overwhelmingly-male-never-been-raped-internet-troper-robot-hugbox is part of his cult, so he doesn't get people calling him an awful shitheel very often except for places like here, and I doubt he reads SA. (Though if I remember correctly he flipped his poo poo when he submitting something to the SPC website and they rejected it for being poo poo, so what do I know). And if you're getting offended or uncomfortable due to his work, well, you're just *beep-boop* irrational aren't you? After all, its not like anybody's getting raped by writing about it, right? So that makes all your feelings immaterial. Sorry if this is getting Helldumpy, but I do a CS degree where I'm surrounded by dedicated Yudkovsky cultists or people who are close so you end up learning a lot about stupid robot people who think they're *beep boop* ultra rational you are irrational *beep boop*. Whats worse is that for a bunch of computer scientists, they don't get that Yudkovsky has never contributed anything to the field of Computer Science anyway. He's a philosopher who specialises in rationality, and uses computers as his example of rational entities. If he actually wrote papers for philosophical journals he'd probably get published, but I'm guessing he's the kind of guy who thinks that philosophy is a waste of time and he's to rational for it. Yudkovsky pisses me off in every way.
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Let's talk about what Troper's think of fantasy, and how to write it, following their amazing page for writing advice: So You Want to/Write a Heroic Fantasy.quote:Necessary Tropes I can't imagine anything more boring than read pages on pages of some Troper sperging about his magic system to "show his work." Lord of the Rings isn't good because we know exactly how Gandalf's magic works - we don't, because its loving magic and the whole idea is that Gandalf evokes awe and mystery. Same goes with Harry Potter - they do make the point about 'rules of transfiguration' but the only time that ever comes up is when its for narrative tension (Hermione can't conjure up food when they're hungry, etc.) As a general rule, you shouldn't be sperging about magic systems unless the actual rules themselves are important to the plot or the themes (i.e. Bartimaeus Trilogy, where you care about the rules because the whole thing is deliberately akin to slavery) and even then, you only call attention to it when its important. quote:You'll need to do some worldbuilding. A lot of worldbuilding. Particularly if you are going for a series. Since you are essentially describing a world that none of your readers can lay their eyes upon, readers of this genre expect you to include a map within the first few pages of your book. Build up the environments of your world, as well as its ecosystems, the cultures that inhabit it, and their history. Don't worry if it doesn't seem like all this will go well with the book that's what writing the separate world guide is for. Yeah. These people think that you 100% must have pages and pages of history written out for a fantasy novel. I think this speaks for itself. quote:Potential Subversions  "See, my book is better because instead of elves I have kappas and instead of Humans I have wendigo. The fact that my book is completely and utterly dull as gently caress in no way detracts from the fact that I have kappas!quote:Suggested Themes and Aesops Yep, they have zero ideas for themes, but plots, they got you covered! Tropers don't write to discuss themes and issues - they write to masturbate over how original they are. Honestly its probably for the best that nothing they come up with ever gets started - its complete and utter pointless drivel either way.
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Bear Sleuth posted:The page on theme spends most of its running confusing the issue by comparing it to The Aesop, what they call a moral. Why they think a theme can't be moral in consideration, I don't know. Maybe they think morals are for babies? They also advise that to learn about a work's theme you should visit its Analysis page. They have them, they're sorted into subpages. You can find the links towards the top of the screen. Their pages on literature and film are surprisingly not terrible, though I may be unpleasantly surprised by something I missed. EDIT: and their section on My Little Pony only has like two sentences. This is surprisingly not-poo poo for TV Tropes. MinistryofLard fucked around with this message at 10:02 on Oct 22, 2013 |
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Oct 22, 2013 09:57
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Sailor Viy posted:There are a bunch of entries like this, where one troper finds something "unexpected" because they're too dense to understand it, and then another troper awkwardly corrects them. But don't think about, y'know, deleting the obviously incorrect entry. Nothing can ever be deleted! Hell, that last one is incredibly blatant and I don't get how you can read Phillip Pullman and not get that he's criticising organised religion. Tropers really don't get themes - they think that His Dark Materials is just a book about these kids and their magical soul-pets or something.
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Nov 20, 2013 09:50
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You know its fake because no troper could ever lift a six foot sword, and if they could it'd be made of lovely cheap plastic and couldn't break any mirrors anyway. The fact that the author wishes it was true says a lot more, really.
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Nov 22, 2013 07:36
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What is up with the bizarre synching between the voice acting and the text? Like, how can you go through the effort of hacking in your own voices into RPG maker, watch the voices end before the subtitles even appear on the screen, and go, "Nah, thats good." Also, you just know that he thinks that joke at the end of the video about fighting rats again is the funniest thing ever and is listed as a double Subverted Lampshade Hanging Self Aware Deadpan Snarker on its TVTropes page.
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Nov 25, 2013 13:31
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Let me see if I can parse Jabrosky's desire. He wants to draw middle-eastern and African people, but he also wants to draw one who is white. I'm seeing a difficulty here. Also, the Aryan thing is just him conflating actual Aryan people with Hitler's ethnography crap. So, not exactly a Nazi, just somebody who read the word Aryan in two different places and doesn't understand context (like every Troper, ever).
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Nov 30, 2013 10:01
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a travelling HEGEL posted:Ironically, there is a trope that describes what he's got going on. It's still racist, because the non-white people need the white guy to lead and save them, but it tries not to be. This page is even dumber. Its like, they're cognisant of how racist a concept is, but then you scroll down to the non-white examples and they've got Doctor Who and Superman in there.  "Well, they're white, but they're aliens so they're not technically white and my Doctor Whos and my comics aren't racist at all!"
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Since I'm playing it now, let's take a look at the Getting Crap Past the Radar page for Pokemon X and Y. For the blissfully unaware, Getting Crap Past the Radar is when tropers think that their children's cartoons are sneaking in dirty words because they're actually super mature and EVIL CENSORS are somehow fooled into thinking its a children's show, so they have to sneak them in covertly. Bear in mind, Pokemon's target audience is small children. quote:In a street in Lumiose City, there's a pair of NPCs who use the standard "lovers" models, holding hands and staring at the Prism Tower. If you pass by them, you overhear their conversation: "You know, my Emolga would really love to shock your Dedenne..." The other NPC's reaction is a confused, "...What?" What? quote:You can work part-time for the Hotel Richissme, cleaning out the rooms. Sometimes, you can find beds that have apparently been drenched in perfume. What kind of idiot thinks "Lemonade on the sheets?" and goes straight to sex? Like, I don't understand the connection here. The rest I can at least see but that one? quote:Attract (a move that causes the target to fall in love with the user) is given to you by a little girl that says that she feels like the Skiddo used it on her. The implications are disturbing... Pokemon's target audience is small children. quote:One woman in the Battle Chateau loves "going wild" with her Pokιmon. Her only Pokιmon is a Tentacool. Everything is about hentai. No exceptions. quote:There is a female trainer (a Beauty, no less) hiding in the grass on Route 6 who wants to have a "secret battle in the tall grass" with you. Pokemon's target audience is small children. quote:There's a Baron in the Battle Chateau who says he's going "...to latch on to some nice Duchess and Aqua Jet [himself] to the top of society". While the literal impression is that he's a self-admitted Social Climber or Gold Digger, it's not that hard to see the Double Entendre. Yes it is. You're just desperately searching for it. quote:Besides all the innuendo, this E-rated game's backstory has war and death. Lots and lots of it. It's just kind of behind many Never Say "Die" terminologies. Oh my god pokemon has death in it that means its for adults because eight year olds can't handle that poo poo. You gotta be real mature, like, 12, to get that kind of thing. Also, this is not "getting crap past the radar." All of this is explicit to anybody who plays. The rest of the page is just stuff that might possibly be innuendo but wouldn't fool a censor so if it is in they didn't get crap past anyone. To conclude: Tropers think that "moral guardians" are trying to censor their SUPER ADULT video games like Pokemon, but censors are so stupid (or, Tropers are so smart) that they can't pick up on obvious innuendo. Jesus.
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Whatever it is its still not "crap past the radar" because ratings people aren't loving morons and any joke that writers put into a cartoon for adults watching it (as many do, because hey, people watch poo poo with their kids sometimes) is not proof that its actually hardcore. Its been brought up before, but for a bunch of people who claim to be challenging gender roles by being loving obsessed with a cartoon for eight year old girls, bronies seem to be in a massive hurry to claim that its super manly and hardcore and dark and not for little girls at all.
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Dec 4, 2013 00:56
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Apple Tree posted:So ... the joke is that the troper is a fantasist who likes to obsess about how to solve the problem of all the sex he isn't actually having, thinks referencing a favourite thing counts as conversation, and takes more than twice as long to state his opinion as an educated professional? Is this supposed to be one of those 'funny because it's true' jokes? Its a rewrite of an old joke about a lawyer, a doctor, and an engineer (or whatever, it changes with every retelling). The lawyer and the doctor say the same thing as in the Troper joke, but the engineer says that its better to have both because your wife will think you're with the mistress, the mistress will think you're with the wife, and you can be in the office getting some work done. Its a vaguely amusing joke originally, though I think in this case the punchline is "lol I like TV Tropes." Its not terrible in context.
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From a thread titled "Iran is building nuclear weapons." in OTC.My God its Full of Stars posted:At this point I feel like, as sad as it makes me, we have to destroy Iran as a nation. And yes, I am sad about it - the Iranian people aren't really to blame here, more so the crappy situation that the USA created with our own short-sighted goals of preventing "socialism" from spreading during the Cold War. I rather feel like we are Dr. Frankenstein who has to put down his monster, but we HAVE to do it - a nuclear Iran is only a single step away from terrorists detonating an atomic bomb in the middle of Manhattan, and the repercussions of that are too frightening to imagine. I get the feeling this guy doesn't live in the real world. Instead, he lives in the land of strategy video games, where you can pull off Versailles style divisions with no regard to ethnic borders and erase countries from the map with the stroke of a pen. EDIT: Later, in response to people telling him he's full of crap and that the US doesn't actually have the military or money to enforce that: quote:That's why I think we should grant the lands to other countries - it would be a good way to get them on board, if they knew that its a land-grab. He just has zero understanding of international politics at all. He thinks the entire leadership of the world is clamouring to expand their borders like it was the 1600s all over again. MinistryofLard fucked around with this message at 08:08 on Dec 5, 2013 |
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Also notable is his omission of any Iranian rump state. This is what happens when you play real time strategy games instead of reading actual history.
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So I took a look at the TV Tropes Alternate History thread, because I'm a bit of a sperg about that poo poo and I want to see more of tropers not getting geopolitics. The thread is, for some strange reason, in OTC rather than worldbuilding. With regards to: "What if the Japanese didn't surrender after the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?" (which is kind of dumb because there was no way they weren't going to anyway, and there's a school of thought that suggests the A-bomb had very little to do with the actual surrender anyway, but I'm willing to let that slide). natasel posted:Oh, I wouldn't be too sure about the insane thing. This is Japan we're talking about. Tropers literally think that people revere katanas. Jesus. Aside from that the fact he doesn't know poo poo about what he's talking about, his main concern with regards to "turning Japan into a lifeless radioactive wasteland" (which is dumb) is "what would happen to my animes?  "Though to be fair somebody calls him out on it the post below, but still. I lurked these threads back when the old ones are around, and I have a feeling that natasel has come up in them at some point. Pedo, weeaboo, ultra-nationalist or all of the above? EDIT: natasel posted:The anime/manga arts and sushi eating are the only things that comes to mind when I think about what would be missing in this world were Japan wiped out to the last in WW 2. SUPER EDIT: natasel posted:Anyway, try the other of the world. I didn't know Harry Turtledove had a TVTropes account. MinistryofLard fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Dec 5, 2013 |
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poptart_fairy posted:Why are katanas, samurai, etc, do detached from the mythical reputation they get from anime obsessives anyway? I'm not that read up on Japanese cultural history so a lot of the mocking this stuff gets is way beyond me. Katanas and Samurai have always been neat skinny swords used by dudes in ridiculous armour to me! They're from the ~~mythical east~~ and thus superior to Western swords because they're quadruple folded or whatever it is.
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oh my god, I've found peak troper. Meet Dark Lady Celebrian.quote:-CRASHES INTO CONTRIBUTOR PAGE WITH HER BODY PAINTED LIKE A NA'VI WHILE WHISTLING ROW ROW ROW YOUR BOAT THROUGH A CAR WASH- HELLOOOO TROPERS. THIS IS DARK LADY CELEBRIAN SPEAKING THANK YOU FOR RIDING THE CELEBRIAN EXPRESS SO WACKY AND RANDOM MONKEYCHEESE GUISE LOLOLOL quote:am also a very proud soulbonder with 84 main soulbonds who I call my "guardians." I would not be who I am today if they did not come into my life 4 amazing years ago. They are my world and I love them all dearly and I would not trade them in for anything. She's also a "soulbonder", which I think is the ur-form of people with "headmates" that we now see on Tumblr. I feel like a palaeontologist discovering the missing link between humans and apes, except, infinitely more retarded and pointless. Jesus christ. I'm fairly sure she has an encyclopaedia dramatica article somewhere, but I had no idea she was on TV Tropes,
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I dunno, the idea of a person, selected at random by an abstract Destiny, being basically forced to destroy something he has nothing to do with and has no desire to destroy, to the point of being unable to die until he does so could be an interesting story. An exploration of the ancient Greek conception of destiny as an abstract force that you can't escape from, no matter what you do, and as a pretty good parody (satire? lampooning? Not entirely sure whether that would count as satire) of the generic fantasy plot. It could work as comedy, it could work as drama. Its not a bad idea, and in the hands of a decent writer it could be an amazing book. Thing is, that describing the character as a pointless list like what that troper did ("Name: blah, strengths: blah, weaknesses: blah") removes anything that makes a story sound interesting and replaces it with a set of essentially superfluous attributes. The guy thinks that what makes his character interesting is that the guy has the perfect sword and can't die, not why he has the perfect sword and can't die, to the point of literally listing the personality as 'bland.' and writing as much about that as his weaknesses.
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Eh, Tropers don't like Big Bang Theory because they don't like to see themselves reflected in the characters on it in their relationships with women. I guarantee you that every single straight male troper does one of the four things in their relationships with women that the main characters of BBT do, and thats why they get so butthurt when the show points out exactly why these things are stupid. Every troper talked about in these threads is either Sheldon ("I've evolved beyond the need for human reproduction."), Raj (Mark von Lewis's patented tactic of standing in a corner desperately hoping women will talk to him because he can't), Howard ("I yell 'where the bitches at' when I walk into a party") or Leonard (self hating guys who are desperate to please women and wonder why they won't sleep with them despite how nice they are).
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Dec 25, 2013 13:19
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Given that I recently saw the new Hobbit movie, lets take a look at what TVTropes thinks about analysing Lord of the Rings. LoTR is a bit like a literary inkblot test, in that people read their own politics into it a lot. With that in mind, I'm sure TV Tropes' take will be... quote:Frodo and Sam: Ho or No? This is what passes for analysis on TV Tropes: Are Frodo and Sam loving.  quote:Interpretation There is no such thing as inspiration or influence - there is only literal, fanfiction.
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Metal Loaf posted:What does this even mean? I've no clue how often I've read this nonsense, but what he was trying to say in this sentence is still inscrutable to me. I think it was some kind of PE jogging session or something. The troper in question was being insufferable, so three people asked if they could just punch him and shut him up. The teacher was supervising the students mile ahead. The Troper snapped and yelled at people, thus making him a badass. He probably broke a pencil afterwards in rage. MinistryofLard fucked around with this message at 12:30 on Jan 2, 2014 |
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JackMackerel posted:From the Imageboard discussion page: Guys... we don't want to start a war either. Otherwise they'll rip us to pieces... with articles!
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U.T. Raptor posted:Oh, hey, look what I found while going through one of my image folders. I don't even remember having this, must have gotten it from a previous version of this thread Notice how themes aren't mentioned at all. I think I've said it before, but if tropers summarised 1984 they'd say that its a story where a guy wakes up, meets a girl, has sex with said girl, then gets arrested by the government and brainwashed. That's all they'd have to say.
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Cornwind Evil posted:The fact that you STILL get them, even if it's the barest trickle, both says so much and yet utterly baffles me. I'm familiar with sudden irrational rage and the urge to do something stupid because of it in the grip of the initial heat, but STILL coming back to that well? Months and months later? It reminds me of someone who I feel truly wronged me and my family and may still punch in the face if I ever meet him in person, and the only time I ever think about him is if something reminds me and I forget soon afterwards. It's like the person decided that all the abuse they likely got in high school was worth it, because it let them learn to polish their grudges to a mirror shine and pull them out over and over, like some kind of achievement. They hate all the 'Jerk Jocks' and 'Alpha Bitches', yet blindly let them continue to win over and over long after the initial events ended. No don't you see Roland Jones is Potatohead's The Rival and SA is the Big Bad The Fundamentalist Moral Guardians of this story with a Xanatos Gambit to make good honest pedophiles look like horrible creepers. Just like every  The grudgewanking and threats to take down the wretched hive of prudishness and fundamentalist Christianity that is an internet comedy forum are all part of his Batman Gambit. In his own mind, he's just like Lelouch.
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Morkyz posted:In their Harry Potter thread, there's a guy advocating for genocide. Betcha any money that the first post was in response to the third.
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I don't understand how Tropers fail at understanding 1984 so badly. Its not a subtle book, it explicitly states everything its trying to say. Of the bits of the WMG page that aren't stupid crossover garbage, half is people bringing up stuff that is explicitly stated in the book like its some great insight ("It might not actually be 1984 guize! The party might be the one firing the rockets! Big Brother might not exist!"). The other half is people sperging about things that aren't explicitly brought up in the book but don't matter (It doesn't actually matter whether or not the three Superstates are real and who is actually allied with who, the whole point is that nobody knows because history and memory are at the whim of the Party). I don't know why I continue to be surprised by Tropers missing the point of books so badly, but I am.
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Darth TNT posted:On that note, once used an idea i learned about in a computer game based on Greek Mythology (and Egyptian and Norse Mythology, but that's beside the point) in my story. I thought that it was apart of actual Greek Mythology and therefore up for grabs (nobody owns the rights to Greek myths), but then it turns out that it was likely the creation of the game makers. What do i do now? This one is great. For all their obsessive focus on worldbuilding Like, if you want to change, ignore, or rewrite poo poo from a mythology for the sake of your narrative (for whatever reason), feel free. Nobody cares but Tropers because they're boring spergs. But you have to at least know what you're changing. If you're spending ten years worldbuilding and haven't learned anything in that time, what the christ have you been spending your time on?
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Jan 30, 2014 13:26
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Penny Paper posted:Which explains the existence of the "trope" What An Idiot. quote:Season 4's "Krusty Gets Kancelled" includes a scene where Mayor Quimby running for re-election in a cutthroat campaign freely admits to the press that he had looted Springfield's finances to arrange the murders of his political enemies. He diverts attention by quoting the catchphrase of ventriloquist's dummy Gabbo (the episode's Villain of the Week), "I'm a bad wittle boy!" and all is forgiven. beep boop what is a 'joke'?
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Feb 2, 2014 05:57
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:How can regularity be alarming? That's a total oxymoron. The alarming bit is that it happens so regularly. Like, "Her kids get hit with alarming regularity," means that her kids get hit so often that its alarming. Tropers overuse it because tropers overuse everything, but its a valid phrase. Content: Some guy posted a thread in worldbuilding about a 'Genre-Savvy Empire'. I can't be assed reading the whole thing, but on the whole its not a completely awful setting for a story (provided the writer has an actual story in mind for this rather than just masturbating to his 'genre savvy Empire.' I can dream.). The first comment though? quote:After skimming what you've written (TL;DR, sorry) I'd say it's not so much "genre savvy" as it is "Exploited Tropes." I continue to be amazed that people look at the Evil Overlord List and, rather than chuckling and saying "Ha hah, movie villains do do that a lot, yeah." thinks "This is good writing material!" How do you write
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Feb 6, 2014 08:48
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paradoxGentleman posted:I exaggerated a little.Sorry about that. I didn't check out literally every single thing I find interesting. No one has that much free time. But I do have a recent example. Really? No weird obsessing over the bit with the fertility goddess' vagina swallowing the guy?
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Apr 5, 2014 06:04
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Saeku posted:Also one day my teacher showed up in class wearing a neon pink T-shirt and devoted a large portion of the class to talk "peacocking" and the benefits of Pickup Artistry. What? Jesus christ. A lot of the people I know in CS degree are hardcore Yudkowskybots and really don't get why I laugh at them. One of them got really spectacularly angry when someone pointed out that Yudkowsky's beliefs about AIs and the singularity were a literal religion. Pretty sure getting emotionally invested in your belief system is pretty irrational. I've also had his Harry Porter fanfiction recommended to me multiple times by people who are otherwise very smart. Somehow these guys just have this AI shaped blindspot.
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Apr 9, 2014 06:58
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