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Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon

Nofeed posted:

Sorry, that's referring to the rate the bank gave me on the term deposit.

That's great, thanks for the advice, I'm still debating between the two but I definitely prefer less uncertainty when it comes to money/investments so perhaps the XBAL is the way to go.

Ah gotcha that makes sense, then yeah go for it! Nothing wrong with XBAL.

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VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

Nofeed posted:

Sorry, that's referring to the rate the bank gave me on the term deposit.

That's great, thanks for the advice, I'm still debating between the two but I definitely prefer less uncertainty when it comes to money/investments so perhaps the XBAL is the way to go.

I think you may be overestimating how volatile XGRO really is, but yes XBAL moves less.

Nothing wrong with being 'all-in' on either. I'm all in on XGRO myself.

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

VelociBacon posted:

I think you may be overestimating how volatile XGRO really is, but yes XBAL moves less.

Nothing wrong with being 'all-in' on either. I'm all in on XGRO myself.

If you look at a chart for XGRO and XBAL for the past 6 months, they are basically exactly the same, including the crash and recovery.

For numbers:

XGRO highest: 22.33, lowest: 16.57, difference: 5.76 or 26% of high
XBAL highest: 24.64, lowest: 19.23, difference: 5.41 or 22% of high

xtal fucked around with this message at 18:43 on May 12, 2020

Mantle
May 15, 2004

A one time 4% delta is not significant, but consider that the divergence increases over time.

Nofeed
Sep 14, 2008
Thanks for the input and help so far, this thread has been great.

After reading more and thinking about my current situation and saving horizon, it does appear that XGRO is probably the right option for me. Here's what I was thinking of doing over the next month:

1. Invest the $30,000 term deposit (Plus my paltry interest on it!) into XGRO in a TFSA account on Qtrade.

2. I'll be receiving a very large tax-free sum from my employer in June, allowing me to top up the TFSA to the current maximum, going "all in" on the same ETF as above, with some to spare to add to my short/medium term savings as well.

Which leaves me with a couple questions:

1. Does QTrade support DRIP for XGRO? As I understand it this is probably the best way to "use" the distributions.

2. For my short/medium term savings, I think getting them over into a High Interest Savings account would be prudent as my current financial institution gives me 0.3%. Would anyone have a specific suggestion of institution, or a recommendation for a different approach? The LBC Digital High Interest Savings Account looks like a good option, but I may be missing something in the fine print.

3. Am I missing anything else, generally? What is something you wish you know before you started on your own journeys in this stuff?

pokeyman
Nov 26, 2006

That elephant ate my entire platoon.

Nofeed posted:

2. For my short/medium term savings, I think getting them over into a High Interest Savings account would be prudent as my current financial institution gives me 0.3%. Would anyone have a specific suggestion of institution, or a recommendation for a different approach? The LBC Digital High Interest Savings Account looks like a good option, but I may be missing something in the fine print.

Definitely find an account that pays more interest. This list (which you may have already found) is kept up to date: https://www.highinterestsavings.ca/chart/ just sort by rate until you find something that looks alright (CDIC coverage is good). The account with the highest rate changes now and then, but the top ten tend to remain in the top ten.

Most of them can probably be spoken to by someone in the thread. I can say EQ Bank and Hubert Financial work fine, though Hubert required snail mailing a form to open the account (may have changed, this was years ago).

quote:

3. Am I missing anything else, generally? What is something you wish you know before you started on your own journeys in this stuff?

That I'm not necessarily an idiot for going so long without knowing there are no- and low-fee options. It's not widely known, probably for frustrating reasons.

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon

Nofeed posted:

1. Does QTrade support DRIP for XGRO? As I understand it this is probably the best way to "use" the distributions.
I'm not sure about QTrade but Questrade and most other brokers have free purchases of ETFs and the advantage of DRIPs are that you buy an equity with dividends without paying the purchase fee; since ETFs are almost all free to buy now on most platforms you can just purchase more of the ETF for no fee (other than tiny ECN fees) so DRIP is nice if you really want full autopilot but it's not nearly as helpful unless you're buying actual stocks.

Sputnik
Jul 21, 2003

I felt like a ninja, and my kung-fu was strong.

pokeyman posted:


Most of them can probably be spoken to by someone in the thread. I can say EQ Bank and Hubert Financial work fine, though Hubert required snail mailing a form to open the account (may have changed, this was years ago).


I normally use EQ Bank and can happily vouch for them, but Tangerine has a 2.8% promo savings rate until....August?...which makes them my vote-of-choice. Still, month-over-month, EQ Bank does better.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos
Good to maintain a Tangerine account in order to take advantage of their bonus interest periods every year.

Shappa
Jan 22, 2005

You probably don't know her, she goes to a different school
I've got a probably dumb question.

I'm looking around at some ETF's, and have my eye on FCCD.TO

For some reason it doesn't seem to be active/charting today, I can't for the life of me figure out why. It's Wednesday, everything else is active, why is this specific fund not charting?

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

Shappa posted:

I've got a probably dumb question.

I'm looking around at some ETF's, and have my eye on FCCD.TO

For some reason it doesn't seem to be active/charting today, I can't for the life of me figure out why. It's Wednesday, everything else is active, why is this specific fund not charting?

It's charting, it's just extremely low volume. Average 7.90k volume on it is super low. Take a look at the volume traded on the other ones you're seeing.


e: Just looked up some alternatives to that, XDV is the blackrock version and it's average volume is 383k.

VelociBacon fucked around with this message at 17:22 on May 20, 2020

Shappa
Jan 22, 2005

You probably don't know her, she goes to a different school

VelociBacon posted:

It's charting, it's just extremely low volume. Average 7.90k volume on it is super low. Take a look at the volume traded on the other ones you're seeing.


e: Just looked up some alternatives to that, XDV is the blackrock version and it's average volume is 383k.

Thanks, finally found a chart for it. Don't think I've ever run into that before and it was driving me nuts why I couldn't figure out what was probably a simple explanation. I've got XDV on the watch list as well, might go for that since it won't give me OCD trying to find a live chart for it haha.

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
How's the bitcoin goons portfolio looking these days?

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Held my breath and looked at my portfolio, saw I'm down about 10% from before the bottom fell out of everything.... so I guess that's better than the 25%+ it was weeks ago.. so I'll take that as a good thing.

Noticed I had some GICs mature in my LIRA that I need to re-invest. Other than laddering again (which is my default for my LIRA as I keep it super conservative) anything else obvious I should look at?

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

slidebite posted:

Held my breath and looked at my portfolio, saw I'm down about 10% from before the bottom fell out of everything.... so I guess that's better than the 25%+ it was weeks ago.. so I'll take that as a good thing.

Noticed I had some GICs mature in my LIRA that I need to re-invest. Other than laddering again (which is my default for my LIRA as I keep it super conservative) anything else obvious I should look at?

What rates are you getting on your GICs? Is this filling the requirement of "low risk low return fixed income" in your portfolio? Otherwise I'd just put it in S&P index ETFs right now because I think it's rebounding the hardest.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

You've pretty much got it. I'm very heavy into broad ETFs (both Canada, US and even some ROW) so this is strictly super conservative part.. which to be fair is not a large % of my holdings.. single digit %. I just have my LIRA in something that's going to be pretty much guaranteed + returns, even if small, to please my spouse as per her request. And it's fair.

E: Have to look at the rates

2 yr = 1.42%
3 yr = 1.53%
4 yr = 1.70%
5 yr = 1.93%

Was someone saying something earlier about an ETF which is just made out of high interest savings accounts from various banks?

slidebite fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Jun 2, 2020

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon

slidebite posted:

You've pretty much got it. I'm very heavy into broad ETFs (both Canada, US and even some ROW) so this is strictly super conservative part.. which to be fair is not a large % of my holdings.. single digit %. I just have my LIRA in something that's going to be pretty much guaranteed + returns, even if small, to please my spouse as per her request. And it's fair.

E: Have to look at the rates

2 yr = 1.42%
3 yr = 1.53%
4 yr = 1.70%
5 yr = 1.93%

Was someone saying something earlier about an ETF which is just made out of high interest savings accounts from various banks?

I've held cash in CLF.TO which is laddered GICs:
https://www.blackrock.com/ca/indivi...assthrough=true

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

That might be about perfect for what I'm looking for - thanks!

ghosTTy
Sep 22, 2008

I'm up 120% since march when I was spat on and berated for buying mining stocks. So gently caress you all :blastu:

odiv
Jan 12, 2003

I thought it was crypto poo poo?

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

odiv posted:

I thought it was crypto poo poo?

He's talking about crypto mining

odiv
Jan 12, 2003

Ha ok. To be fair I don't think I can be blamed for thinking someone means mining stocks when they say mining stocks.

Anyway, my pet stock SolarEdge (SEDG) has somehow surged to an all time high. I'd say too bad this is just my play money I'm messing with, but we all know if it was my actual investment money I'd gently caress up and lose most of it.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

odiv posted:

Ha ok. To be fair I don't think I can be blamed for thinking someone means mining stocks when they say mining stocks.

I only give my money to real miners.


Whoa officer, hold on, it's a homonym, lemme go

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

ghosTTy posted:

I'm up 120% since march when I was spat on and berated for buying mining stocks. So gently caress you all :blastu:

Gonna need the goon who built your portfolio out in a simulator to independently confirm this claim.

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

Rime posted:

Gonna need the goon who built your portfolio out in a simulator to independently confirm this claim.

Yeah i want to see this again.

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon

Oh yeah I guess that's me; this shows +24% so I'm not sure where you got 120%. I'm genuinely glad you didn't lose all your money but this is also the same as putting everything on Black in a casino and thinking you've outsmarted everyone.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Wow what a 2 month performance

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon

ghosTTy posted:

I'm up 120% since march when I was spat on and berated for buying mining stocks. So gently caress you all :blastu:
I don't think I spat on you or berated you:

quote:

That sounds like a terrible idea, friend.
I still think it's a terrible idea to put crypto-mining stocks in your RRSP. Don't take it personally. Had you asked for a pure speculative investment at that time I would have said Zoom, which has doubled since the same time period (and I'm lucky enough to have bought it with some play/gambling money).

Sassafras
Dec 24, 2004

by Athanatos
I only track month-end numbers and don't do bitcoin, but my May 31st was +15% from my prior all-time high on Jan 31st (real ATH was probably in early-mid Feb...) and I'm pretty sure things are up more since then.


I assume I'm not alone and that this plays a healthy role (along with "lowest interest rates ever!") in housing's current resilience.

odiv
Jan 12, 2003

Less Fat Luke posted:

Oh yeah I guess that's me; this shows +24% so I'm not sure where you got 120%.
This seems to be a pretty frequent error. Saying stuff like "an increase of 150%" when you mean 50% more. "Productivity has tripled, it's up 300%!" etc.

Or he could have made other bets in the meantime and actually be up 120%.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos
20% is not a great return given the massive risk exposure of that portfolio.

Nofeed
Sep 14, 2008
Moving my eFund over to EQ bank. Anyone want to send me a referral code and get some sweet dollars?

If you're not comfortable posting the link here I can be reached at nofeed@fastmail.com as well.

Cheers!

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Nofeed posted:

Moving my eFund over to EQ bank. Anyone want to send me a referral code and get some sweet dollars?

If you're not comfortable posting the link here I can be reached at nofeed@fastmail.com as well.

Cheers!

Sure why not. Thanks!

https://join.eqbank.ca?code=DAVID9685

Nofeed
Sep 14, 2008

Account created and funded. Merci beaucoup!

e. EQ Bank has a very slick registration, website, and App while offering 2% interest. Would highly recommend. (Well, until it all craps out for some terrible and unforseen reason, but the last 15 minutes have been great!)

Nofeed fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Jun 13, 2020

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Are there any good options for US $ bank accounts that don’t keep a hold on deposits from US sources for weeks?

I have an etrade account with my employer and when I sell shares they mail me the cheque and I deposit it into tangerine USD account but they have a really long hold time on it (3 weeks) and it’s annoying. I swear it used to be a lot shorter too.

pokeyman
Nov 26, 2006

That elephant ate my entire platoon.
RBC Bank (the US-domiciled offshoot of RBC Royal Bank (the Canadian bank)) hasn't held anything deposited for me. And it can accept ACH transfers, which you could probably hook up to Etrade to make that part easier, if that sounds useful. The RBC Bank checking account does have a monthly fee though.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

pokeyman posted:

RBC Bank (the US-domiciled offshoot of RBC Royal Bank (the Canadian bank)) hasn't held anything deposited for me. And it can accept ACH transfers, which you could probably hook up to Etrade to make that part easier, if that sounds useful. The RBC Bank checking account does have a monthly fee though.

Yeah avoiding fees was a biggie for me, but I might just have to bite the bullet.

You’d think the bank that holds my mortgage could give me a free chequing account or something, bastards.

pokeyman
Nov 26, 2006

That elephant ate my entire platoon.
Makes sense. My alternative is a regular wire transfer, so :10bux: beats that garbage.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
I do have a simplii account too and I think it takes wire xfers for a fee so it might be worth a try. Tangerine doesn’t support wire transfers at all.

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HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
Have you tried calling Tangerine and seeing if they can reduce/waive the hold time on your account?

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