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Kill Dozed posted:I think there is some truth to this, but didn't Varys warn Aerys about Tywin? It was Qyburn who got Aerys to let Tywin into King's Landing. I imagine if Varys was playing both sides, he would have had no problem letting Tywin in. Or, if he knew about the wildfire he had a good reason not to let the city fall until that was dealt with.
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Kill Dozed posted:I think there is some truth to this, but didn't Varys warn Aerys about Tywin? It was Qyburn who got Aerys to let Tywin into King's Landing. I imagine if Varys was playing both sides, he would have had no problem letting Tywin in. According to Jaime, that was the one time Aerys should have listened to Varys, but instead took Pycelle's advice. Before, Varys was fueling Aerys' paranoia, which is what put them in the situation where everybody hated Aerys. Maybe he just didn't want King's Landing sacked and knew Ned would show more restraint than Tywin. Alternatively, you could claim that Varys knew that if Tywin was let in he would side with the rebels, and that would make the reign of whoever took the throne more secure. Essentially it would mean Varys would have one more realm to contend with.
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In It For The Tank posted:If people aren't reading Race For the Iron Throne, then they really should be. It highlights these kind of issues (if anyone is interested, Jon III is the first time the author discusses the dysfunctional institution of the Night's Watch.)
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Reminder that the trailer premieres at 8:58 EST. That's just 20 minutes away.
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In It For The Tank posted:Reminder that the trailer premieres at 8:58 EST. That's just 20 minutes away.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Online or on HBO or what? Both. Like always.
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That was awesome. But help me out, did Jaime cut his hair in the books? That was the only thing I really thought odd, but I don't remember.
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Bluedust posted:That was awesome. But help me out, did Jaime cut his hair in the books? That was the only thing I really thought odd, but I don't remember.
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Prepare yourselves for the last good season of Game of Thrones!
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I saw Rast dropping off a baby for the Others. That's messed up. Also I'm surprised how un-Reek like Theon still looks. Speaking of which, looks like Myranda (one of the Flaydies from last season who prepped Theon for his castration) is Ramsay's gently caress buddy. I'm trying to work out who Melisandre is speaking to when she's talking about hell.
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motherbox posted:Prepare yourselves for the last good season of Game of Thrones! AFFC and ADWD aren't bad in their content, the only thing god awful about them is the format of having the books separated by geography rather than chronology. Which will be fixed in the show.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:He got shaved bald at one point, if I remember correctly. Yeah, he rocks the Obediah Stane while he's on the lam with Brienne, and then keeps the beard while letting his hair grow back when he becomes Commander of the Kingsguard.
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Speaking of, no Brienne in the trailer. Also curious to see what they invent for those Jaime and Joffrey conversations.
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So what episode will have Joffrey eating it and then Oberyn vs. Gregor? Because those two are my most awaited scenes.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Speaking of, no Brienne in the trailer. Also curious to see what they invent for those Jaime and Joffrey conversations. Didn't we get a shot of her at the front of a canoe?
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In It For The Tank posted:Also I'm surprised how un-Reek like Theon still looks. He was wearing his armor - looks like a dream sequence.
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motherbox posted:Didn't we get a shot of her at the front of a canoe?
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Calaveron posted:So what episode will have Joffrey eating it and then Oberyn vs. Gregor? Because those two are my most awaited scenes. It looks like 2 and 7 or 8, but those are guesses.
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What's with the fakeout of dragons flying over KL? Just HBO messing with the show only viewers?
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MrBims posted:He was wearing his armor - looks like a dream sequence. No, I think that's him dressed up while visiting Moat Cailin. He's the one on the horse holding a banner while walking through a field of corpses, and you can see him being welcomed through a gate as well. On second watch he does look a little different. He's pale as hell. e: actually, that might not be Theon holding the white flag in the field of corpses, but that is definitely a shot of him holding a Bolton banner going through a set of gates. In It For The Tank fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Jan 13, 2014 |
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Hmm I must say if i didn't know what was coming this season the trailer wouldn't exactly excite me more than just the standard 'omg GoT' hype. Obviously they'll ramp it up in following trailers, hopefully they don't drown us in them they did before Season 3.
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motherbox posted:Didn't we get a shot of her at the front of a canoe? No, it was Asha/Yara in the canoe.
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Mammon Loves You posted:What's with the fakeout of dragons flying over KL? Just HBO messing with the show only viewers? Probably some kinda nightmare or vision someone will have. No way they make things progress that far.
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jeffersonlives posted:It looks like 2 and 7 or 8, but those are guesses. Seriously doubt they will kill either of those characters off that early. I'm suspect there will be quite a bit of exposition with The Mountain before the big fight, and no way Joffrey dies so early.
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Nice, but I'm not sure anything will ever top the Florence and the Machine season 2 trailer. The only thing in there that was genuinely surprising was Rast and the baby. Are they turning him into Craster 2.0?
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Shodai posted:Seriously doubt they will kill either of those characters off that early. I'm suspect there will be quite a bit of exposition with The Mountain before the big fight, and no way Joffrey dies so early. The wedding is the second episode so yes, Joffrey bites it that early. Tyrion's arrest/trial will take up much of the season afterwards. The battle at Castle Black is episode 9, so Oberyn will most likely die an episode or two earlier. That leaves episode 10 time for Tyrion's escape.
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Simon Magus Says posted:Nice, but I'm not sure anything will ever top the Florence and the Machine season 2 trailer. They have to pad out Bran's storyline somehow. Indications that the mutineers will play into his story, right?
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Ballz posted:The wedding is the second episode so yes, Joffrey bites it that early. Tyrion's arrest/trial will take up much of the season afterwards. Have episode names been released already or something?
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Simon Magus Says posted:Nice, but I'm not sure anything will ever top the Florence and the Machine season 2 trailer. cRASTer !!!! drat you GRRM! Shodai posted:Have episode names been released already or something? It has been widely reported, even by the director of it, that episode 9 will encapsulate the battle of Castle black similar to Blackwater from season 2.
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Mammon Loves You posted:They have to pad out Bran's storyline somehow. Indications that the mutineers will play into his story, right? I do wonder why they have Bran groping a weirwood at 1:01.
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Shodai posted:Have episode names been released already or something? Only episode 9's title has leaked so far and it is (unsurprisingly) "Castle Black." The director's made it no secret it'll be like season 2's "Blackwater" in that it'll focus entirely on the battle. As for Joff's wedding, this got leaked a few months ago:  (click to embiggen the Comic Sans goodness) And for what it's worth, GRRM wrote the episode. Edit:  Nice hand you got there. 
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Yeah, he rocks the Obediah Stane while he's on the lam with Brienne, and then keeps the beard while letting his hair grow back when he becomes Commander of the Kingsguard. Which makes this an interesting inversion, here he'll shave his beard but cut his hair. Whichever, it kind of symbolizes his spiritual change, so the way he changes how he looks reflects how much he's changed from his roots. I'm excited to see what they do with this Jaime and Joffrey conversation. It all looks really cool though. Also, I hope we finally get Coldhands but I'm not hopeful 
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Mike N Eich posted:Which makes this an interesting inversion, here he'll shave his beard but cut his hair. Whichever, it kind of symbolizes his spiritual change, so the way he changes how he looks reflects how much he's changed from his roots. Yeah, that's a shame, No Coldhands or no Black Gate. There's not nearly enough magic in the show for my tastes. Even Pyat Pree seemed more like some Chris Angel rip-off who's only power was the ability to do weird parlor tricks. I mean I don't understand what the guys over at HBO are so worried about because in like a season there's going to be ancient forest elves unless they wimp out on that too and it turns out the children of the forest are literal human children or something equally terrible.
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Mischitary posted:Yeah, that's a shame, No Coldhands or no Black Gate. There's not nearly enough magic in the show for my tastes. Even Pyat Pree seemed more like some Chris Angel rip-off who's only power was the ability to do weird parlor tricks. I mean I don't understand what the guys over at HBO are so worried about because in like a season there's going to be ancient forest elves unless they wimp out on that too and it turns out the children of the forest are literal human children or something equally terrible. I think costs are the biggest factor.
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Ballz posted:Only episode 9's title has leaked so far and it is (unsurprisingly) "Castle Black." The director's made it no secret it'll be like season 2's "Blackwater" in that it'll focus entirely on the battle. While on the topic of leaks, has there been any mention of Lady Stoneheart?
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