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Hubis
May 18, 2003

Boy, I wish we had one of those doomsday machines...

Chainclaw posted:

Those look like they're selling pre cut kits. I was looking for STL files to cut things myself.

Oh! Sorry, I misread. Yeah, I've got a friend with a Glowforge who's been offering his services, but I don't know anything about the history ecosystem there. I'd be curious to know as well!

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Dienes
Nov 4, 2009

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College Slice
I've been painting for about 8 months and would like to step up my basing for my minis. I have a few I'd like to put on resin water bases. The difficulty is the bases are round and I'd like to keep them round if possible. The OP for the thread was really useful for square items, but I can't use foam to form the 'lip' with a round base. I've watched some video tutorials, and it looks like folks doing resin water bases use a combination of tape, putty, and a flexible plastic sheet to form the retaining wall on the base while the resin cures - but none of them happen to list specifics about the plastic sheet and putty, or the best place to get them. Any advice?

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting

Dienes posted:

I've been painting for about 8 months and would like to step up my basing for my minis. I have a few I'd like to put on resin water bases. The difficulty is the bases are round and I'd like to keep them round if possible. The OP for the thread was really useful for square items, but I can't use foam to form the 'lip' with a round base. I've watched some video tutorials, and it looks like folks doing resin water bases use a combination of tape, putty, and a flexible plastic sheet to form the retaining wall on the base while the resin cures - but none of them happen to list specifics about the plastic sheet and putty, or the best place to get them. Any advice?

Haven't looked at this thread in ages but could you give more info on what you're talking about? If I was gonna do water bases, I wouldn't be attempting poo poo that required crafting a retaining wall above the rim of a base. I would instead get different bases with recessed interiors. Alternatively, if you wanted to make a base insert as a little puck that you then affix onto the top of a base, you could get some silicone baking molds that have the correct interior diameter to match the bases you're using. For example, if your bases are 25mm in diameter at the bottom with a 1mm lip, then a 23mm diameter circular mold would allow you to make the base in the mold and then pop it out after it cures so you could transfer it and just glue it down onto the base.

whaddayaknow a quick search and bingo https://www.amazon.com/Palksky-silicona-caramelos-cavidades-bombones/dp/B083164H97

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

I did some on Reaper bases (straight vertical sides, not tapered like gw ones) and just used a bit of acetate from some packaging. Cut to a strip the right length so it met itself without overlap, and the join taped. Hot glue at the bottom to stop leaks.

There is probably a proper way to do it, and I'd recommend testing, but were I to do it again I'd try to have the acetate go up to the final desired height exactly. Mine extended further up than it needed, so I then had to trim down the miniscus once it was set.

E: also idk what kind of resin or what size base you're looking at but I used UV curing, meant I didn't need to mix a tiny amount or worry about adding bubbles by stirring

Big Bad Beetleborg fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Aug 24, 2020

Dienes
Nov 4, 2009

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College Slice

signalnoise posted:

Haven't looked at this thread in ages but could you give more info on what you're talking about? If I was gonna do water bases, I wouldn't be attempting poo poo that required crafting a retaining wall above the rim of a base. I would instead get different bases with recessed interiors. Alternatively, if you wanted to make a base insert as a little puck that you then affix onto the top of a base, you could get some silicone baking molds that have the correct interior diameter to match the bases you're using. For example, if your bases are 25mm in diameter at the bottom with a 1mm lip, then a 23mm diameter circular mold would allow you to make the base in the mold and then pop it out after it cures so you could transfer it and just glue it down onto the base.

whaddayaknow a quick search and bingo https://www.amazon.com/Palksky-silicona-caramelos-cavidades-bombones/dp/B083164H97

You're right - a picture is worth a thousand words. I want to achieve something like this:


And the tutorials all look something like this:


A circular mold might work if I can find one the right size - time to do some shopping.

Harkano
Jun 5, 2005

Dienes posted:

You're right - a picture is worth a thousand words. I want to achieve something like this:


And the tutorials all look something like this:


A circular mold might work if I can find one the right size - time to do some shopping.

This kind of stuff?

http://www.greenstuffworld.com/en/inicio/1074-containment-moulds-for-bases-round.html?search_query=moulds&results=7

Dienes
Nov 4, 2009

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College Slice

Jesus wept. That is exactly what I was looking for, thank you.

Harkano
Jun 5, 2005

Dienes posted:

Jesus wept. That is exactly what I was looking for, thank you.

It's interesting since they do the whole ecosystem - 2 part resins, UV curable ones you'd use on a 3d printer, little UV torches to replicate the functionality in a more freeform way etc.

Unrelated question. Does anyone have any behind the scenes articles/videos on how companies get those cool army photographs in Codexes? With Models, terrain, surfaces, background etc.

For a non GW example something like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-Rzm827_Cc

Edit: the board is described here - https://robhawkinshobby.blogspot.com/2020/08/terrain-showcase-x-mansion.html?m=1 but I'm more wondering about lighting, shooting etc.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

Harkano posted:

Unrelated question. Does anyone have any behind the scenes articles/videos on how companies get those cool army photographs in Codexes? With Models, terrain, surfaces, background etc.

Build models and sets, photograph them.

There's no trick to it, they just build a poo poo ton of models and build custom sets for them. Basing, writ large.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

It's a whole thing, photography, which is a challenge and a skill and an art.

Super-beginner-level advice: use more lighting. Lots and lots of lighting. Use diffusers and lighting from several angles to try to eliminate hard shadows.

Adjust the camera for white balance to account for the colors in your lighting.

Use a tripod.

Assume you'll take like 50 photos for each 1 really nice usable one you hope to get. So just take shitloads of photos. If you're using a real camera, take photos with a variety of apertures (which will control depth of field) and ISO settings and zooms and angles and move the lighting around and so on.

The only way to really get good at it is years of practice and lots of reading and fully understanding your camera and exactly how it works.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

Build models and sets, photograph them.

There's no trick to it, they just build a poo poo ton of models and build custom sets for them. Basing, writ large.

When your job is to build models and scenery all day long with a relatively unlimited budget and access to things most people can't get, like official cad models, it makes it really easy to make some sweet looking terrain.

radlum
May 13, 2013
Wanted to make a cheap medieval town diorama; would cardboard scenery be the cheapest option? has anyone tried Battle Systems scenery?

Thanks!

Harkano
Jun 5, 2005

For something like this how do they do the background though?



Green screen? Just abusing the super long tables at WHW with a smoke machine?

Based on this WMH one they just have everything in a super focused angle.

https://home.privateerpress.com/2015/04/13/insider-4-13-2015/

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005
They manufacture all the miniatures, the terrain, have staff employed to paint armies and create tables and have a giant warehouse type space to set this stuff up. As others have said it's just throwing money and people at it to get it done.

Harkano
Jun 5, 2005

TTerrible posted:

They manufacture all the miniatures, the terrain, have staff employed to paint armies and create tables and have a giant warehouse type space to set this stuff up. As others have said it's just throwing money and people at it to get it done.

Oh agreed that they have an army exactly for this. But this looks great considering how ghetto it is -



Just wondering if anyone had come across any more BTS stuff.

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005
There have been articles in White Dwarf over the years and the ancient "how to make wargames terrain" book from GW had some bits and pieces.

I might be imagining it but I _think_ the Warhamemr World people put up an in progress shot of the giant titan dock being assembled too.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting

Harkano posted:

For something like this how do they do the background though?



Green screen? Just abusing the super long tables at WHW with a smoke machine?

Based on this WMH one they just have everything in a super focused angle.

https://home.privateerpress.com/2015/04/13/insider-4-13-2015/

Basically all of this kind of stuff is the minis equivalent of food photography tricks like using glue instead of milk. Anything to make the photo look good. A fog machine and time spent waiting for the fog to settle in the foreground and taking many many shots is a super low price to pay to get that in a book that will sell tons of copies and contribute to the sales of more plastic.

signalnoise fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Aug 27, 2020

Big Willy Style
Feb 11, 2007

How many Astartes do you know that roll like this?
Voxcast or Stormcast had the boss bloke of the staff who create the terrain and boards and do the photos and it was pretty interesting. I can not remember his name but I think it was a recent episode

Booley
Apr 25, 2010
I CAN BARELY MAKE IT A WEEK WITHOUT ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE
Grimey Drawer

Harkano posted:

For something like this how do they do the background though?



Green screen? Just abusing the super long tables at WHW with a smoke machine?

Based on this WMH one they just have everything in a super focused angle.

https://home.privateerpress.com/2015/04/13/insider-4-13-2015/

Smoke machines are cheap, any photo studio has more than enough space to do that, and I'm not even 100% convinced the terrain in the background is even painted. Nothing there is particularly complicated, even for the barely competent photographers GW employs.

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

Anyone tried to DIY a Basius pad before? I have some polycaprolactone coming shortly and thought of giving it a stab, just wondering if there is anything to watch out for (other than underhangs).

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting

Big Bad Beetleborg posted:

Anyone tried to DIY a Basius pad before? I have some polycaprolactone coming shortly and thought of giving it a stab, just wondering if there is anything to watch out for (other than underhangs).

I have one. It works, though you do gotta trim it a bit and be careful to fill in all the little nooks and crannies. If you intend to use something like that by putting greenstuff in a base and then pressing it into the pad, I would advise against that. Instead, I would put a whole bunch of greenstuff on a silicone mat on a very very flat surface, then press it in until you get it just right, wait for it to cure, and then cut out what you need.

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


Harkano posted:

For something like this how do they do the background though?



Green screen? Just abusing the super long tables at WHW with a smoke machine?

Based on this WMH one they just have everything in a super focused angle.

https://home.privateerpress.com/2015/04/13/insider-4-13-2015/

Tested had a series last year that they did some photography stuff more on toys, but a lot probably applies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqxZ_VpwEd8

Springfield Fatts
May 24, 2010
Pillbug
Been messing around with some sabot base solutions on the cheap.


Picked up some vinyl floor tile, got this sample piece for free.


The tool that makes it possible, a leather dye punch. This one came in a set that had tips sizing from .5mm up to 32mm for $20. Put the dye over the floor tile and tap it lightly with a hammer. I wanted a 50x30mm sabot base with space for two 20mm models mounted on pennies, but you could easily plan it out to fit any unit size. I cut two pieces out, a top and bottom.


Some tapping later and this is the result. As a bonus you get two 20mm discs to use as a base. This will be great for when I want some larger/smaller bases but don't want to buy washers or a pack of 100 mdf ones.


Glue the two tiles together and here's our finished sabot base. The pennies are like ~19mm so it's tight enough to keep them in place but they won't slide around during handling. The tiles are 2.5mm thick so the sabot sandwich is 5mm.


Another nice thing is you can cut the tile to any size, here as a 40x40 for an MMG team. I plan to also use this for basing some of my paper terrain projects I've got on the burner.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

Harkano posted:

Oh agreed that they have an army exactly for this. But this looks great considering how ghetto it is -



Just wondering if anyone had come across any more BTS stuff.

If you want home scale stuff, check out Youtube for A.C.A.B.(Articulated Comic Book Art) it's a whole cottage industry of people using action figures, tricks and such to recreate their favorite panels or create new ones. Adam Savage's Tested did a bit with a guy doing it and getting some great results. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqxZ_VpwEd8

Harkano
Jun 5, 2005

Yooper posted:

Tested had a series last year that they did some photography stuff more on toys, but a lot probably applies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqxZ_VpwEd8

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

If you want home scale stuff, check out Youtube for A.C.A.B.(Articulated Comic Book Art) it's a whole cottage industry of people using action figures, tricks and such to recreate their favorite panels or create new ones. Adam Savage's Tested did a bit with a guy doing it and getting some great results. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqxZ_VpwEd8

Jinx! Thanks guys, I'll check it out. Really just trying to find out how much is trick photography, photoshop, and gimmicks like the food stuff/sick angles like that Warmachine piece.

Hubis
May 18, 2003

Boy, I wish we had one of those doomsday machines...

Springfield Fatts posted:

Been messing around with some sabot base solutions on the cheap.


Picked up some vinyl floor tile, got this sample piece for free.


The tool that makes it possible, a leather dye punch. This one came in a set that had tips sizing from .5mm up to 32mm for $20. Put the dye over the floor tile and tap it lightly with a hammer. I wanted a 50x30mm sabot base with space for two 20mm models mounted on pennies, but you could easily plan it out to fit any unit size. I cut two pieces out, a top and bottom.


Some tapping later and this is the result. As a bonus you get two 20mm discs to use as a base. This will be great for when I want some larger/smaller bases but don't want to buy washers or a pack of 100 mdf ones.


Glue the two tiles together and here's our finished sabot base. The pennies are like ~19mm so it's tight enough to keep them in place but they won't slide around during handling. The tiles are 2.5mm thick so the sabot sandwich is 5mm.


Another nice thing is you can cut the tile to any size, here as a 40x40 for an MMG team. I plan to also use this for basing some of my paper terrain projects I've got on the burner.

This is really smart. I have that exact same vinyl floor tile I've been cutting up with a razor knife for building bases, but the leather punch is a great idea!

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
What's the name of that tiles-on-mesh you can get at home improvement stores for walls and backsplashes? I feel like you could get a really good 28mm floor out of those but I don't know what it's called.

Ugleb
Nov 19, 2014

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Schadenboner posted:

What's the name of that tiles-on-mesh you can get at home improvement stores for walls and backsplashes? I feel like you could get a really good 28mm floor out of those but I don't know what it's called.

Mosaic tiles?

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
What are some good terrain making Youtube channels I can follow? I've got a bunch for mini painting, but I'm just now trying to get into terrain making for stuff like SAGA (should be easy) and Napoleonics (should be easy + buying buildings)

Anything from "here's how to make a basic hill out of foam" to "here's how I hand built a Viking hut from scratch" would be good.

Geisladisk
Sep 15, 2007

Terrain Tutor on Youtube is a goldmine of detailed tutorials on the whole range from basic stuff to advanced techniques.

Springfield Fatts
May 24, 2010
Pillbug

Ugleb posted:

Mosaic tiles?

It's this, but those tend to be made out of ceramic as they need to be wtareproof. That's a lot thicker, heavier, and more expensive than I would be willing to use for bases. You can find some stone and wood textured vinyl tiles that could work for 28mm.

NUMBER 1 FULCI FAN posted:

What are some good terrain making Youtube channels I can follow? I've got a bunch for mini painting, but I'm just now trying to get into terrain making for stuff like SAGA (should be easy) and Napoleonics (should be easy + buying buildings)

Anything from "here's how to make a basic hill out of foam" to "here's how I hand built a Viking hut from scratch" would be good.

Edit: Yeah, what Geisladisk said:
Starting out I would suggest Mel "TheTerrainTutor" as 90% of the stuff he does cheap & easy while also looking pretty good. He strikes me as just a grog dad in a garage which is endearing in a hobby where most of the 'content creators' give me that youtube personality that irritates the poo poo out of me.
On the other end if you want insane levels of minutia Luke Towan does model rail stuff but it's absurd the amount of specialist materials and tools he uses. I've picked up a few ideas from him and the videos are edited very well but most of the time I watch them and go "gently caress all that, dude."

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
Luke Towan's stuff is truly breathtaking but will make you :dawkins101: and want to hang up your brushes and flock forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9FD7DzYqts

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
Mel looks like an awesome follow to start out, thanks for that!

I love hobbyists that have YouTube channels that genuinely come off as "hey I'm a gentle guy in a garage and I just want you to be my friend and share my hobby with you." I get annoyed by the "HEY WHAT UP SMASH THAT LIKE HERE'S HOW TO GET THE SICKEST PAINT BLENDS"

Bucnasti
Aug 14, 2012

I'll Fetch My Sarcasm Robes
I'm fond of Black Magic Crafts, he's chill but mostly does fantasy terrain for DnD, but started to branch out a bit more lately.

Team_q
Jul 30, 2007

I like Black Magic Craft too.

Here is his li'l house tutorial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYFkKLOSuz4

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

NUMBER 1 FULCI FAN posted:

"HEY WHAT UP SMASH THAT LIKE HERE'S HOW TO GET THE SICKEST PAINT BLENDS"
Scott from Miniac does a podcast called Trapped Under Plastic and they had on the BMC guy to talk about terrain. BMC himself is worth a look as noted above, but the links section from that ep has some good names. I like Roman Khramov's stuff (generally until he slaps resin on everything)

Hellscape by Jake and Dinos Chapman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJrbSJ5RSsc
Oliver Spaeth: https://www.instagram.com/oliver_spaeth
Great Terrain Materials: https://polakscenics.uk/
I Build Small Things (Chris Toledo): https://www.instagram.com/ibuildsmallthings/
Roman Khramov (minibricks): https://www.youtube.com/user/cuberto1
Luke Towan: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjRkUtHQ774mTg1vrQ6uA5A
Josua Lai: https://www.instagram.com/josualai.miniatures/
Water Resin Guide by Josua Lai: http://massivevoodoo.blogspot.com/2017/05/tutorial-proper-use-of-two-component.html
TheCrafsMan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgUXYpeC1tU
Seth Amsden: https://www.instagram.com/hobbysensei
Chris Suhre: https://www.instagram.com/chris_suhre_miniature_art/

e: gently caress hold on, fixed urls

Also, my very preliminary test with molding a DIY basius pad worked p good -

Big Bad Beetleborg fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Aug 28, 2020

Silhouette
Nov 16, 2002

SONIC BOOM!!!

NUMBER 1 FULCI FAN posted:

What are some good terrain making Youtube channels I can follow? I've got a bunch for mini painting, but I'm just now trying to get into terrain making for stuff like SAGA (should be easy) and Napoleonics (should be easy + buying buildings)

Anything from "here's how to make a basic hill out of foam" to "here's how I hand built a Viking hut from scratch" would be good.

RubbishInRubbishOut is still my personal favorite terrain channel, dudes got over a decade of videos on his channel.

Lumbermouth
Mar 6, 2008

GREG IS BIG NOW


Wyloch’s Armory is a lot more D&D focused, but all of his terrain stuff is from super cheap materials (cardboard and hot glue being the recurring theme.) He’s building the entire Tomb of Horrors right now and it’s been really interesting to watch.

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

There was a dude that a LGS used to having playing on the hobby nights, I think it's Next Level Painting?

Anyway, the guy knew his stuff, but he was very "dudebro" and had the whole "smash that like and subscribe" thing going on that turned me off to him.

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HebrewMagic
Jul 19, 2012

Police Assault In Progress
Kenny Boucher is full dudebro persona yeah, he super knows his poo poo yeah, but the part I love the most is watching this man who could feasibly be the frontman for your local Pantera cover band and always seeing Sonic and Amy on his studio wall, overlooking his many airbrushed killing machines. Love that guy.

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