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I’m reading these articles and stuff like “I was told that if I got the part, I’d have to work out.” is spun into “Bay forced Kate Beckinsake to lose weight.” The recurring theme in the articles is that these minor interactions prove the secret truth of Bay’s movies: “male chauvinism that’s reflected constantly in his films. (Life imitates art imitates life, etc.)” “As Bay gained clout in the industry, the women in his films became more and more scantily clad, his camera training on their glistening bodies.” And so-on.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I’m reading these articles and stuff like “I was told that if I got the part, I’d have to work out.” Okay, ignore that one instance then. What about the letter? Or Fox's account of his behaviour? You can read that for yourself.
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Jan 18, 2019 22:13
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Michael Bay rules
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Hand Knit posted:One of the main things that Bay is interested in in all his movies is men looking at women as possessions that, by being possessed, affirm their masculinity. Australian rally car guy and Mark Wahlberg are competing for ownership of Mark Wahlberg's daughter throughout the movie. It's pretty similar to the dynamic between Ben Affleck, Bruce Willis, and Liv Tyler in Armageddon, except this time taking place in the Transformers late capitalist hell world. Australian?
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Jan 19, 2019 01:58
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Arquinsiel posted:Australian? Isn't he?
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Jan 19, 2019 02:01
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Michael Bay is probably a gross dude, I don't think I strongly need to believe he's a Good Guy to appreciate his completely misanthropic robot fascism. His movies are definitely grotesque.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I’m reading these articles and stuff like “I was told that if I got the part, I’d have to work out.” This is what I got out of it too. Fsmhunk posted:The 'letter from the cast' he put up on his website is completely disgusting. The part where he says she has a lower back tattoo because of a 'bad childhood' is so loving nasty. It was bad taste, but it did come after Fox publicly calling him Hitler and a hopeless loser. Slutitution fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Jan 19, 2019 |
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Jan 19, 2019 04:33
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Transformers sure like hanging out with Jailbait.
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Jan 19, 2019 05:21
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you don't gotta stan for someone who is serially cruel and dismissive of women in order to appreciate the nihilistic intentionality of his work.
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Jan 19, 2019 06:04
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Michael Bay's new movie is going to be a $150M netflix film with Ryan Reynolds starring with the intent to start a franchise. Even he can see the writing on the wall with traditional studio distributors given the advent of streaming services.
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Slutitution posted:Michael Bay's new movie is going to be a $150M netflix film with Ryan Reynolds starring with the intent to start a franchise. Even he can see the writing on the wall with traditional studio distributors given the advent of streaming services. He's probably still going to make that Robopocalypse adaptation after this. The Netflix movie sounds interesting, though. It's about rich people who secretly become soldiers.
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DoctorWhat posted:you don't gotta stan for someone who is serially cruel and dismissive of women in order to appreciate the nihilistic intentionality of his work. The one article does everything it can, within the confines of libel laws, to suggest that Bay goes home at the end of day and privately jacks off to images of a fully-clothed Megan Fox. Even assuming that’s true, which of course it isn’t (the article is banking on the reader not knowing what a screen test is), it’s bizarrely wholesome.
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:TLK is awesome because Prime is a spiteful dick. Are you 12
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Hand Knit posted:Isn't he? Nope, he's Irish.
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Arquinsiel posted:Nope, he's Irish. Well poo poo.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The one article does everything it can, within the confines of libel laws, to suggest that Bay goes home at the end of day and privately jacks off to images of a fully-clothed Megan Fox. It is pretty wholesome to ogle a bikini clad 15 year old.
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Fsmhunk posted:It is pretty wholesome to ogle a bikini clad 15 year old. Wasn't she like 20 when she made TF1?
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Rhyno posted:Wasn't she like 20 when she made TF1? Yes. There are bizarre fantasies of Bay as a despotic jouisseur. In the second article Fsmhulk posted as evidence of harassment, model Rosie Huntington-Whitely describes shooting an underwear commercial in the desert. She had to do a runway strut for 10-12 minutes while wearing underwear, and it was hot. Article title: "This Is What Happens When You Meet Michael Bay For The First Time". That decontextualization is used to generate a narrative that Bay randomly abducts women and strips them nude or something. The writer even throws in brief decontextualized quotes where Scarlett Johansson calls him "merciless" and Frances McDormand says that Bay knows how to manipulate American men. So the spin on the existence of underwear commericals is that Bay is constantly raping women for the gratification of toxic American masturbators. Now, the point here is not to be uncritical of the modelling industry and so-on, but "objectification" is not when you see a bra. The goal is not to cover up bras. Objectification is when you cease to see models and so-on as workers. It's a term that grew out of marxist critique that was, as usual, appropriated by liberals to promote "ethical consumption" - divorcing it from its anticapitalist context.
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Rhyno posted:Wasn't she like 20 when she made TF1? quote:The first time I ever met him, I was 15, and I was an extra on Bad Boys 2. We were shooting this club scene, and they brought me in, and I was wearing a stars and stripes bikini and a red cowboy hat, and six-inch heels. And they took me to Mike and he approved it. And they said, ‘You know, Michael, she’s 15, so you can’t sit her at the bar and she can’t have a drink in her hand.’ So his solution to that problem was to then have me dancing underneath a waterfall getting soaking wet. And that’s… At 15 and I was in tenth grade. So that’s sort of a microcosm of how Bay’s mind works.
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Just while we're discussing Megan Fox, Mickey Rourke described her as the most talented young actress he's ever worked with, so I look forward to some premium drama starring her in a few years, where we all go 'wow, Megan Fox is really good, who knew?' Mickey Rourke knew.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Yes. There are bizarre fantasies of Bay as a despotic jouisseur. I agree with that last part, so surely he should treat the workers better and not act like a little tyrant, yes?
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Jan 20, 2019 06:43
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Surprising no one, Bumblebee has been confirmed as the start of a new Transformers cinematic universe.
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:Surprising no one, Bumblebee has been confirmed as the start of a new Transformers cinematic universe. So the Michael Bay films aren't cannon anymore? Lame.
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Slutitution posted:So the Michael Bay films aren't cannon anymore? In Transformers, everything is canon... somewhere.
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I saw Bumblebee on the tail end of its run and I enjoyed it. Most important aspect of it was the fact that it didn't feel like an army recruitment video that happened to have Transformers in it. The military were, rightfully, one of the antagonists and constantly clowned on. So them rebooting or whatever the series using that film as a starting point then I'm on board.
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Based on others in CD are saying about Alita, Robert Rodriguez should direct a Transformers movie. He is apparently really good at well-coreographed robotic hyperviolence.
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The MSJ posted:Based on others in CD are saying about Alita, Robert Rodriguez should direct a Transformers movie. He is apparently really good at well-coreographed robotic hyperviolence. I found Alita kind of weirdly boring, but I will give you that it's all really clear to follow on-screen even when there's a half-dozen almost-robots with the same color schemes getting in each others' way.
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Was John Cena supposed to be gi joe in bumble bee?
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MonsieurChoc posted:I still want a whole movie based on this scene: That stood out over everything else imo. I love how Nitro Zeus kind of sounds like Macho Man Randy Savage.
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Megatron's design in The Last Knight is by far the best of any transformer.
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Azubah posted:Was John Cena supposed to be gi joe in bumble bee? It wouldn't be a bad idea if he was.
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Slutitution posted:Megatron's design in The Last Knight is by far the best of any transformer. Every toy of that design also ended up as the best movie Megatron toys.
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Roadie posted:I found Alita kind of weirdly boring, but I will give you that it's all really clear to follow on-screen even when there's a half-dozen almost-robots with the same color schemes getting in each others' way. A lot of the weirder cyborg designs, especially the motorball contestants, also reminded me of several Bayformers robots.
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The MSJ posted:Every toy of that design also ended up as the best movie Megatron toys. Hobo Megatron also got two good toys.
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Gatts posted:That stood out over everything else imo. I love how Nitro Zeus kind of sounds like Macho Man Randy Savage. The entire crew reminds me of GWAR. That would be a neat crossover.
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Jimbot posted:I saw Bumblebee on the tail end of its run and I enjoyed it. Most important aspect of it was the fact that it didn't feel like an army recruitment video that happened to have Transformers in it. The military were, rightfully, one of the antagonists and constantly clowned on. Pretty sure Bumblebee had to have killed some of those army guys near the end. He wasn't glooping anybody like the decepticons were but he blew up a few vehicles right beside them and that can't have been good for their health.
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DoctorWhat posted:Hobo Megatron also got two good toys. I agree, I just think TLK Megs' toys just have more that looks good, even some of the ones for young children. Speaking of toys,  Glad to see the robo-vagina is still there.
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:Surprising no one, Bumblebee has been confirmed as the start of a new Transformers cinematic universe. This might be true, but also: https://www.cbr.com/transformers-last-knight-sequel/amp/
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The MSJ posted:This might be true, but also: good lord this is one of the more bizarre franchises around
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I love it. It's like if Nolan and Burton made Batman movies at the same time. Then again, two concurrent movie series with mutually exclusive timelines is the most Transformers thing that could happen.
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