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Avenging_Mikon
May 25, 2010

Service Desk Bunny
How can I help you?


Sheep posted:

Why did some reset and some did not? Who knows. Nothing surprises me anymore.

I was about to say I've never seen it reset on ours, but yeah, who the gently caress even knows.

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Gounads
Mar 13, 2013

Where am I?
How did I get here?


The Fool posted:

Yeah, making IE easier to find/more available is as easy as you expect. It could be done in a half-dozen different ways at any stage of the process.

You could even push a shortcut to the users desktop that runs "iexplore.exe https://shittywebapp.com"

Changing the default PDF handler however.. not as easy.



Thank you.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011


xzzy posted:

They know they can't force edge as web browser or the EU will flying crane kick them in the nuts, so they figured they could get their numbers up by enforcing it as a pdf viewer.

They did it on every Windows 10 version upgrade for me.

Virigoth
Apr 28, 2009

Give me the axe.
We need more guts.


People who don't use our internal chat bot to answer simple questions. We updated the hell out of this thing for most issues users are having and links to documentation fixes, templates, etc and even added keyword spotting to our chat channels. They just ignore it.

dev posted:

Hey how do I do this?

helpful bot posted:

This is something we do with X and Y.
Check the documentation here for detailed instructions: <url to internal confluence>

5 minutes later...

dev posted:

Anyone around to help with this? I didn't get an answer and nobody reached out.

Thanatosian
Apr 16, 2013

Angrier, Bitterer Man


Grimey Drawer

Avenging_Mikon posted:

What I don't get is how Edge becomes the default handler anyway, as we install Reader in addition to Chrome during prep.

I don't know if it still does it, but on older versions of Windows 10 (1500s I think), when Reader does it's thing during installation to make it the default for PDFs, Windows 10 decides to "help" and let you know "something tried to change the default pdf reader, we changed it back to Edge." You actually have to go into Control Panel to fix it, or right-click -> Open With. Fixing the issue in our image involved creating an entirely new image. Also, setting default taskbar/start menu items involved waaaaaaayyyyyyy more work than it should (you need an XML file imported during initial login).

Easiest thing to do is probably add the IE shortcut to the app via GPO.

Avenging_Mikon
May 25, 2010

Service Desk Bunny
How can I help you?


Thanatosian posted:

I don't know if it still does it, but on older versions of Windows 10 (1500s I think), when Reader does it's thing during installation to make it the default for PDFs, Windows 10 decides to "help" and let you know "something tried to change the default pdf reader, we changed it back to Edge."

God drat that's awful. At least it's usually a painless phone call to help someone fix it. The IE issue gets people way more worked up for some reason.

Thanatosian
Apr 16, 2013

Angrier, Bitterer Man


Grimey Drawer

Avenging_Mikon posted:

God drat that's awful. At least it's usually a painless phone call to help someone fix it. The IE issue gets people way more worked up for some reason.

We've put a lot of work into fixing up our image for poo poo like that. We even figured out how to bring back the old Windows 7 Photo Viewer, since the Windows 10 photo viewer doesn't work if you block the Microsoft Store. Same with the calculator.

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009




Fallen Rib

You should be able to set up IE Enterprise mode in GPO, then attempting to open any of the Enterprise mode configured sites in Edge automatically moves you to IE instead.

Hungry Computer
Nov 12, 2008



College Slice

Thanatosian posted:

We've put a lot of work into fixing up our image for poo poo like that. We even figured out how to bring back the old Windows 7 Photo Viewer, since the Windows 10 photo viewer doesn't work if you block the Microsoft Store. Same with the calculator.

This is only true if you're using a Win10 version older than 1607. And even then there are workarounds (except for mandatory profiles).

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003



I am very annoyed right now that I can not make a group own another group in Azure AD.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE


The Fool posted:

Yeah, making IE easier to find/more available is as easy as you expect. It could be done in a half-dozen different ways at any stage of the process.

You could even push a shortcut to the users desktop that runs "iexplore.exe https://shittywebapp.com"

Changing the default PDF handler however.. not as easy.

Changing default file associations isn't very hard at all, we had to do it very recently for several different file types: https://www.adobe.com/devnet-docs/a.../pdfviewer.html

option 2 is what we went with, it's similar to the startmenu config you can do in 10 (and maybe 8?), except not as awful; get a good machine to base it off of, export xml with DISM, remove entries you don't care about, point GPO at that and push it down or put it somewhere all machines have access to, win.

*edit* I am amused that it was the adobe site I pulled that from

MF_James fucked around with this message at Jan 20, 2018 around 06:21

Roargasm
Oct 21, 2010

Hate to sound sleazy
But tease me
I don't want it if it's that easy


e: nvm

Super Soaker Party!
May 4, 2006



Thanatosian posted:

Also, setting default taskbar/start menu items involved waaaaaaayyyyyyy more work than it should (you need an XML file imported during initial login).


I'm not disputing that the method is a little ridiculous, but frankly a quick powershell plus a properly formatted XML is I think a lot better than the previous generally accepted method, which was a stupid VBS script. Emphasis of course on properly formatted since if you gently caress up even a tick of the formatting it won't loving import you fuckers Microsoft.

Oh yes what was I saying, right, I was defending the new way of...you know what, I don't think it's worth defending anymore.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Grimey Drawer

After years of bad sleep due to horrible neighbors I usually get up at least once each night between 11pm-2am for an hour so. Tonight I woke up around 1:20am and decided to web surf a little while. I went to the corporate webmail page and it didn't respond. Remote Desktop also wasn't responding. I checked LogMeIn and saw that my work laptop went offline at around 1:20am. My phone couldn't connect to collect work mail.

The timing seemed too strange with everything going offline when I woke up. I did more checking and no services appeared to respond. Finally I called my desk phone and it picked up and voicemail worked so I knew that the building power was on and things weren't totally dead.

Ah well.

I pulled myself together and drove to work. Sat down at my desk and everything appeared normal. Took my phone off the wifi and used it to check mail, Remote Desktop, etc. and everything was responding. HMMMMM! I logged into the firewall to look at traffic and saw that from 1:17am to 1:44am there was a dead spot. So basically from the moment I woke up to the moment I made my test call to work. If I'd made my call just a couple of minutes sooner it wouldn't have gone through. I checked LogMeIn and saw that all the monitored systems at HQ had come back online at 1:44am.

I've woken up a couple of times to find that things were offline but the timing of this particular outage is weird as poo poo.

Dick Trauma fucked around with this message at Jan 20, 2018 around 10:20

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Super Slash posted:

"Oh woe is me, my profits aren't as high as they were before!"

My only response is "Oh I haven't checked into that stuff in 5-6 years. I wonder how much my $5 is worth now" and walk away.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007


Dick Trauma posted:

After years of bad sleep due to horrible neighbors I usually get up at least once each night between 11pm-2am for an hour so. Tonight I woke up around 1:20am and decided to web surf a little while. I went to the corporate webmail page and it didn't respond. Remote Desktop also wasn't responding. I checked LogMeIn and saw that my work laptop went offline at around 1:20am. My phone couldn't connect to collect work mail.

The timing seemed too strange with everything going offline when I woke up. I did more checking and no services appeared to respond. Finally I called my desk phone and it picked up and voicemail worked so I knew that the building power was on and things weren't totally dead.

Ah well.

I pulled myself together and drove to work. Sat down at my desk and everything appeared normal. Took my phone off the wifi and used it to check mail, Remote Desktop, etc. and everything was responding. HMMMMM! I logged into the firewall to look at traffic and saw that from 1:17am to 1:44am there was a dead spot. So basically from the moment I woke up to the moment I made my test call to work. If I'd made my call just a couple of minutes sooner it wouldn't have gone through. I checked LogMeIn and saw that all the monitored systems at HQ had come back online at 1:44am.

I've woken up a couple of times to find that things were offline but the timing of this particular outage is weird as poo poo.

That's so sweet! The LAN MISSED YOU!

It acted out since it needed your loving attention. Then it stopped because you were there!

Avenging_Mikon
May 25, 2010

Service Desk Bunny
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Humphreys posted:

My only response is "Oh I haven't checked into that stuff in 5-6 years. I wonder how much my $5 is worth now" and walk away.

About $500. $1,000 two weeks ago.

Jeoh
Jul 20, 2010



Our corporate IT forces the install of Flash, Silverlight, and Java. If you have local admin and remove them, they're reinstalled. Fun!

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Grimey Drawer

The three programs I made it my mission to eliminate from my current workplace.

I believe they're completely purged, and we no longer use any apps or services that require Java.

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017



Avenging_Mikon posted:

About $500. $1,000 two weeks ago.

It is worth that much in a theoretical sense, good luck cashing out.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003



I cashed out my $100 of bitcoin last month. There were a few hoops to jump through, but the money was in my checking account in a couple days.

$500 or even $1000 shouldn’t be that big of a deal.

My understanding is that you start seeing delays when you are trying to regularly cash out multiple thousands at a time. And most of the exchanges have a $10000 cap.

The Fool fucked around with this message at Jan 20, 2018 around 20:02

Avenging_Mikon
May 25, 2010

Service Desk Bunny
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Peachfart posted:

It is worth that much in a theoretical sense, good luck cashing out.

Sadly small amounts can be cashed out without too much hassle, depending on location.

The fun now comes from accounting and taxes, because your bank sure as poo poo is going to be reporting on crypto transactions.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Grimey Drawer

How much are all the CPU cycles that I spent on SETI@home and protein folding worth? Would like to cash those in so I can buy a boat or something.

Dick Trauma fucked around with this message at Jan 21, 2018 around 02:13

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012


We've got this thing licked!



Dick Trauma posted:

I believe they're completely purged, and we no longer use any apps or services that require Java.

You lucky fucker .

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

wakey wakey to
this bowl of tasty


Yams Fan

Only browser java we got left is kronos timecards, and even that has an "inferior" javascript version which ironically is superior in functionality to the java client. So everyone bookmarks that version anyways.

We do have java in a number of server installs, like jenkins. But java for backend stuff doesn't bother me as much.

Though ajp can piss off forever and I'm glad it's dead/dying.

Volguus
Mar 3, 2009


Pissing me off:
I saw this in my android log when I started up Spotify, while connected to my home's WiFi.
code:
01-20 19:35:58.586 9354-9547/? E/awo: Exception sending measurement:Failed to connect to b.scorecardresearch.com/127.0.0.1:80
01-20 19:35:58.591 9354-9547/? E/COMSCORE: java.net.ConnectException: Failed to connect to b.scorecardresearch.com/127.0.0.1:80
                                               at com.android.okhttp.internal.io.RealConnection.connectSocket(RealConnection.java:143)
                                               at com.android.okhttp.internal.io.RealConnection.connect(RealConnection.java:112)
.....
                                               at auo.run(Unknown Source:8)
                                               at aup.run(Unknown Source:0)
01-20 19:35:58.593 9354-9547/? E/awo: Measurement was not transmitted: c1=19&c2=15654041&ns_ap_an=Spotify&ns_ap_pn=android& .... 
So Spotify, even when one has a paid account, still tries to connect to tracking websites. The only reason it couldn't now it is because I'm on wifi and my DNS is redirecting to 127.0.0.1 a bunch of domains, including that one. But otherwise ... that poo poo is open-season. What a load of motherfuckers. I understand to do that with a free account. But even with a paid one. is not loving enough.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!


I'd be hard-pressed to think of a service that doesn't do that, paid or not. It may not be "literally" everyone, but it's so ubiquitous that it might as well be.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

wakey wakey to
this bowl of tasty


Yams Fan

Restrict to a whitelist on your outgoing firewall, stops all that cold but turns your life into whackamole every time you install new software.

But if you got iot stuff it's probably necessary anyways, that poo poo is the wild loving west.

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

*whirrrrrrrrrr*






Illegal Hen

ConfusedUs posted:

I'd be hard-pressed to think of a service that doesn't do that, paid or not. It may not be "literally" everyone, but it's so ubiquitous that it might as well be.

that doesn't make it okay

Avenging_Mikon
May 25, 2010

Service Desk Bunny
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Dick Trauma posted:

How much are all the CPU cycles I spent on SETI@home and protein folding? Would like to cash those in so I can buy a boat or something.

Try tongue, but hole.

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Sheep
Jul 24, 2003


Real spare cycle usage starts now

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