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Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002


Ynglaur posted:

Can I quote you on this? Please? I've been annoyed by this by a particular vendor for the last 8 years. Their app literally examines the JRE version at launch, and if it doesn't match exactly, just immediately fails. (Actually, it's worse: it directs you to Java.com, which of course...only has the latest JRE version.)

What's probably happening is that they certified the behavior against one specific major/minor, and do not want to support issues with any other versions, since in addition to security fixes, there might be bugfixes, or new bugs introduced. Doing a full regression test against a new minor version every week is expensive, and they don't want to constantly escalate issues to engineers on the off chance that it's actually a JVM specific issue.

It's bad behavior on their part, though, since the message that they're giving you is "we care more about our support costs than your internal security." You should try to find another vendor if possible.

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Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004


Bob Morales posted:

Some CDN's like CacheFly have 100mb files you can try (which won't take long at all on 20mb)

http://www.cachefly.com/

Here's a 1GB test:

http://test.gorillaservers.com/

Really what you could do is get a box with 100mb of bandwidth (whould be very cheap, think Linode or Digital Ocean) and just blast away at it.
I think he wants a test for his upload not download. Not sure I see an upload test of a large size on those sites.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006

This post is good to go


demonachizer posted:

I think he wants a test for his upload not download. Not sure I see an upload test of a large size on those sites.

He can still blast away at a VPS or dedicated server.

A c E
Jun 18, 2007

Is this weird? Is this too weird? Do you need to sit down?

Galler posted:

You could always seed a bunch of linux isos or something.

This. I brought my 100mbps server to its knees once by forgetting to limit the traffic of the Debian ISOs. I just wanted to use up SOME of my bandwidth but it maxed it within seconds.

TWBalls
Apr 16, 2003
My medication never lies

Ynglaur posted:

Can I quote you on this? Please? I've been annoyed by this by a particular vendor for the last 8 years. Their app literally examines the JRE version at launch, and if it doesn't match exactly, just immediately fails. (Actually, it's worse: it directs you to Java.com, which of course...only has the latest JRE version.)

Here you go. I had to find that a while back as we also have a poo poo program that requires a specific version of Java (1.6.0_21-b07).

Simpleboo
Oct 19, 2013



So I had to do some setup for a new workstation at work today. The guy before me labeled all of the wall jacks to (in theory) correspond to a jack on a patch panel. Today I come across a jack labeled "15-6" and until I did some trace work did not realize that it is instead "14". So I checked the rest of the building and nothing is labeled correctly. Also, the patch panel looks something like this http://imgur.com/38ZjVPF

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE


Simpleboo posted:

So I had to do some setup for a new workstation at work today. The guy before me labeled all of the wall jacks to (in theory) correspond to a jack on a patch panel. Today I come across a jack labeled "15-6" and until I did some trace work did not realize that it is instead "14". So I checked the rest of the building and nothing is labeled correctly. Also, the patch panel looks something like this http://imgur.com/38ZjVPF

Close to the thing of nightmares... but not really. I deal with this on a daily basis at 2300 different sites that some wiring schmuck went out and labeled in some abstract way that made sense to him BUT NO OTHER loving PERSON ON EARTH.

God why can't people just label things 1, 2, 3 etc till infinity! Or at the very least, label the same at BOTH ENDS.

This is seriously what pisses me off daily and induces a mass amount of rage.

Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Do not ingest.

Swink posted:

Are there services out there for testing the upload speed of a link? I need to verify the capacity of our newly installed internet link. Everything Google turns up like speedtest.net is a tiny upload file which is usually finished in 5 seconds.

I need to have a sustained upload over an hour or more so I can point to a graph and say "Yes this link is maxed at 20mbit"

Seconding/Thirding the torrent route.

Seed a bunch of different Linux distros and you'll clobber a 20mbit link easy.

MF_James posted:

God why can't people just label things 1, 2, 3 etc till infinity! Or at the very least, label the same at BOTH ENDS.

Wait, what? Who the hell decides the ends of a drop don't need to be named the same?

I get that people come up with bizarre drop labeling schemes, but to not label the endpoints the same thing makes for all kinds of crazy.

I once ran into a scheme where some guy somewhere took a floorplan with the drops indicated and scrolled down it with a straight edge, labeling each drop as he moved the ruler down the page. So drop 1 was at the top left of the paper, drop 2 was at the top center of the page and drop 3 was at the top right, etc.

It made sense in theory, but the problem was that the floor was broken up into suites that led to different wiring closets. So each closet had a seemingly random number sequence.


Agrikk fucked around with this message at Dec 3, 2013 around 23:19

guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob

This morning I got an email, one of the ones where there's no text in the body and the entire message is in the subject line. The guy wanted to know the status of his computer, which I took for diagnosis last week. I'll do quick repairs, including ordering parts, if it's something obvious, but I don't keep stuff like a multimeter on hand. So if it could be one of a few things I'll send it to our repair shop for a proper diagnosis, so I don't run the risk of ordering parts that won't solve the problem. This machine is in the shop.

It went in right before Thanksgiving. It's Tuesday. We were closed Thursday and Friday, so they've had it for less than two business days and he knows it. Have some patience, motherfucker, or at least write a more polite email if you're going to badger us about it.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE


Agrikk posted:

Wait, what? Who the hell decides the ends of a drop don't need to be named the same?

I get that people come up with bizarre drop labeling schemes, but to not label the endpoints the same thing makes for all kinds of crazy.

I once ran into a scheme where some guy somewhere took a floorplan with the drops indicated and scrolled down it with a straight edge, labeling each drop as he moved the ruler down the page. So drop 1 was at the top left of the paper, drop 2 was at the top center of the page and drop 3 was at the top right, etc.

It made sense in theory, but the problem was that the floor was broken up into suites that led to different wiring closets. So each closet had a seemingly random number sequence.

You know, if I could tell you who does it, they would be dead already and I'd be in jail, but it happens daily. I'll also end up with half good half terrible number schemes where they started with 1, 2, 3, but then switch to frontoffice1 or something dumb, guess what the patch is always labeled? 1-24! Time to play magical cables and checking the switch (hopefully the guy I am talking to understands link lights) so I can figure out what goes where, god forbid if they have a bunch of extra cables running from patch to switch so like 10 things have no link lights.

TWBalls
Apr 16, 2003
My medication never lies

MF_James posted:

Close to the thing of nightmares... but not really. I deal with this on a daily basis at 2300 different sites that some wiring schmuck went out and labeled in some abstract way that made sense to him BUT NO OTHER loving PERSON ON EARTH.

God why can't people just label things 1, 2, 3 etc till infinity! Or at the very least, label the same at BOTH ENDS.

This is seriously what pisses me off daily and induces a mass amount of rage.

In addition to this, why the hell do people cut cables at the end of the jack, then slap the plate back on the wall with the jacks still in it? I spent a good 30mins going from closet to closet trying to tone out a drop, only to take the plate off of the wall and found that they've been cut. Put a drat blank plate for fucks sake.

And in addition to labeling the port, they need to label which closet it goes to. All of our closets have a label above the door (1.1 - 1.x for first floor, 2.1 - 2.x for second floor). Not fun trying to figure out where a drop goes when it's in a spot where it could go to any of 5 different closets.

mewse
May 2, 2006



Simpleboo posted:

Also, the patch panel looks something like this http://imgur.com/38ZjVPF

You can tell what everything is because the cables are color coded

macado
Jun 3, 2003

How to keep an idiot busy, Click here.

We had one loving legacy single LOB web application that is used by approximately 50 people. It is/was preventing us from upgrading to the latest version of Java 7 Update 45 on ~7800 computers because it breaks this one application. Higher ups were concerned if these users happened to switch computers, never mind the loving security implementations of running ancient versions of Java.

There was no technical reason why I couldn't upgrade all other computers and exclude those users but internal policies and bureaucracy prevented it.

Today I finally got go ahead to approve Java 7 Update 45 in Patch Management and created an exclusion group for those 50 people...

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013



macado posted:

We had one loving legacy single LOB web application that is used by approximately 50 people. It is/was preventing us from upgrading to the latest version of Java 7 Update 45 on ~7800 computers because it breaks this one application. Higher ups were concerned if these users happened to switch computers, never mind the loving security implementations of running ancient versions of Java.

There was no technical reason why I couldn't upgrade all other computers and exclude those users but internal policies and bureaucracy prevented it.

Today I finally got go ahead to approve Java 7 Update 45 in Patch Management and created an exclusion group for those 50 people...

Sometimes I think it would be simpler to just provision a VM for these types of applications. Windows licenses aren't all that bad...heck, it's Java. It should work on Linux. Right?

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952

Simpleboo posted:

So I had to do some setup for a new workstation at work today. The guy before me labeled all of the wall jacks to (in theory) correspond to a jack on a patch panel. Today I come across a jack labeled "15-6" and until I did some trace work did not realize that it is instead "14". So I checked the rest of the building and nothing is labeled correctly. Also, the patch panel looks something like this http://imgur.com/38ZjVPF

Almost the only thing done right at the place I just took over is that the jack <-> switch port mappings are very well documented.

Not perfect mind you, but good enough to rely on.

Oh. And the phone number spreadsheet. That's very nice, but my boss did that.

Simpleboo
Oct 19, 2013



mllaneza posted:

Almost the only thing done right at the place I just took over is that the jack <-> switch port mappings are very well documented.

Not perfect mind you, but good enough to rely on.

Oh. And the phone number spreadsheet. That's very nice, but my boss did that.

I haven't taken over, thank god, but I am replacing one of the TWO IT staff that my work employs. The guy that I replaced was a moron who's only real claim to being in the department is that our programmer was his mother. In general since switching into this department I've had to deal with all of the stuff that he "took care of" during his employment. The jack <> switch mapping that he's done is all over the place so I am going to have to re-trace every jack and cable. Luckily my supervisor never left so I'm not completely in the dark.

Lum
Aug 13, 2003



You think you got cable run problems?

This thing from Sweden in 1890 turned up on IRC the other day. It carries phone calls. The cables probably aren't insulated.



Full set: https://secure.flickr.com/photos/te...57629589461917/

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


So my situation is getting interesting.

Everything is all good for new job, I know where to go, what to wear while uniforms are being tailored, and the start time...after nearly 2 weeks of no communication!

Old work are being absolute cunts though.

FAKE EDIT: I had a huge wall of text typed about whats going on but I'll just leave it as 'old work have screwed the pooch in multiple ways'

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair


Lum posted:

You think you got cable run problems?

This thing from Sweden in 1890 turned up on IRC the other day. It carries phone calls. The cables probably aren't insulated.



Full set: https://secure.flickr.com/photos/te...57629589461917/

You remember the pictures from the Verizon cable vaults after Hurricane Sandy, right? Right?

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

Bless You Ants, Blants



Fun Shoe

I don't think you could pay me enough to repair that mess. Rip it out, start again.

QuiteEasilyDone
Jul 1, 2010

Won't you play with me?


Welp. I just got out of a meeting with the ops manager and I had to tell him that inbetween last Wednesday and today, it appears that 10 laptops appeared to have walked off the premesis. I have a feeling that this is going to end poorly

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006

This post is good to go


QuiteEasilyDone posted:

Welp. I just got out of a meeting with the ops manager and I had to tell him that inbetween last Wednesday and today, it appears that 10 laptops appeared to have walked off the premesis. I have a feeling that this is going to end poorly

Are they not issued to specific people or did you just have a table full of laptops that were waiting for something?

QuiteEasilyDone
Jul 1, 2010

Won't you play with me?


Bob Morales posted:

Are they not issued to specific people or did you just have a table full of laptops that were waiting for something?

Decommissioned, belonging to a client. I left for thanksgiving break and found that my pile of accounted and audited devices slightly smaller than when I left and somewhat scattered about. I reported it as soon as I took down all the tag info of the ones that I had left. The client has recently requested that they be shipped back.

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008


Why do you leave things like "Big piles of laptops" in an unsecured area? I mean I'm about to deploy ~150 tablets, and I don't leave them by my desk because I know they will walk away.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006

This post is good to go


Rhymenoserous posted:

Why do you leave things like "Big piles of laptops" in an unsecured area? I mean I'm about to deploy ~150 tablets, and I don't leave them by my desk because I know they will walk away.

Exactly. Locked storage room with video camera coverage.

ratbert90
Feb 12, 2009
JUST FUCKING STOP, JESUS H. CHRIST


Things not pissing me off today: Shiny new boards to bring up!

Things REALLY pissing me off today: They aren't debug boards, and the client doesn't want to pay for debug boards, and my boss told me to just deal with it.

QuiteEasilyDone
Jul 1, 2010

Won't you play with me?


Rhymenoserous posted:

Why do you leave things like "Big piles of laptops" in an unsecured area? I mean I'm about to deploy ~150 tablets, and I don't leave them by my desk because I know they will walk away.

Because I work in what passes for our secured workarea which has a camera monitoring the door. Unfortunately, I was just informed that it doesn't work . I CMOA and fully disclosed what I knew to the ops manager as soon as I had a definitive list of devices that were unaccounted for.

rolleyes
Nov 16, 2006

Sometimes you have to roll the hard... two?

Some chucklef... moro... misguided person in corporate IT has pushed out a policy to all laptop users which changes the lid close action to "Hibernate".

Potassium Problems
Sep 28, 2001

You done fucked up now


QuiteEasilyDone posted:

Because I work in what passes for our secured workarea which has a camera monitoring the door. Unfortunately, I was just informed that it doesn't work . I CMOA and fully disclosed what I knew to the ops manager as soon as I had a definitive list of devices that were unaccounted for.
Is it public knowledge that it doesn't work? You might be able to pull the old 'We have and will be reviewing video surveillance, come clean before hand for a chance at lieniency'

wa27
Jan 14, 2007



I moved to a new office several months ago, which was much bigger than my old one. On the other side of my wall is a kids' play room that hasn't been used at least since I started here over a year ago.

Last month, they started using it 8 hours a day. Now there are constantly kids yelling and running and stomping all over the place. I had to stabilize my monitors because they keep shaking. I'll probably bring in some earbuds this week because I can't hear myself think sometimes.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it



Amazon is working on the greatest year round secret santa program ever (drone delivery). What's Microsoft working on?

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Clapping Larry

rolleyes posted:

Some chucklef... moro... misguided person in corporate IT has pushed out a policy to all laptop users which changes the lid close action to "Hibernate".



This tempts me to change the lid close action to Shutdown.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


Ham Wrangler

Paladine_PSoT posted:

Amazon is working on the greatest year round secret santa program ever (drone delivery). What's Microsoft working on?

Ahahaha. Uh, wow. Will it let me know if I'm being too hysterical because it's 'that time of the month', too?

mewse
May 2, 2006



Sirotan posted:

Ahahaha. Uh, wow. Will it let me know if I'm being too hysterical because it's 'that time of the month', too?

It will direct you to request a slap from the nearest man to straighten you out

Helushune
Oct 5, 2011



MF_James posted:

Close to the thing of nightmares... but not really. I deal with this on a daily basis at 2300 different sites that some wiring schmuck went out and labeled in some abstract way that made sense to him BUT NO OTHER loving PERSON ON EARTH.

God why can't people just label things 1, 2, 3 etc till infinity! Or at the very least, label the same at BOTH ENDS.

This is seriously what pisses me off daily and induces a mass amount of rage.

This. A thousand times, this. We have student workers who don't always follow directions or have their own weird interpretation of what they were told but gently caress me, nothing is consistently labeled here. Nothing on the patch panels or wall jacks are labeled and all the computers are some horrible mix of Lab1, Lab01, Lab01-Swap, Lab001-New-Replacement, etc, etc. It drives me up the wall.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it



Sirotan posted:

Ahahaha. Uh, wow. Will it let me know if I'm being too hysterical because it's 'that time of the month', too?

I hear Apple's latest offering, the iBone, is a cure for womanly hysteria.

rolleyes
Nov 16, 2006

Sometimes you have to roll the hard... two?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who had a "bwuuuh?" reaction when confronted with the Bra for Windows.

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA
May 29, 2008



I just picked up a Barco Clickshare and this thing is awesome.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

Bless You Ants, Blants



Fun Shoe

Firmware coming out next year will let you have it on a different subnet to your Wi-Fi clients (iPads etc), so you can keep using the internet while on the ClickShare. Will involve certain things in DNS a bit like how you point Windows clients at KMS, and obviously some routing between the subnets.

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Lum
Aug 13, 2003



rolleyes posted:

I'm glad I'm not the only one who had a "bwuuuh?" reaction when confronted with the Bra for Windows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUEemQeInjE

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