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Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
When I moved out of Grand Rapids it was one of the best days of my life. gently caress getting up at 4 am to shovel snow every day for 9 months.

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FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Bigass Moth posted:

When I moved out of Grand Rapids it was one of the best days of my life. gently caress getting up at 4 am to shovel snow every day for 9 months.

One of the worst mistakes of my life was moving to West Michigan, so I must congratulate you on the correct decision.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Well at least he'll have the opportunity to branch out into Network administration as he updates his resume :stonklol:.

I'm kinda hoping old age just takes the guy before he can gently caress up someone elses company.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

dogstile posted:

I'm kinda hoping old age just takes the guy before he can gently caress up someone elses company.

He will take it down out of spite.

fist4jesus
Nov 24, 2002
Company dosen't want to pay for oncall for a company we merged with anymore.
Solution.

Rather than have 4-5 of their staff do it for basically gently caress all money.
Dump it on my team. (shift guys) and give us a few hours of halfassed training.

A new starter would get months. A+ its sure to work out well.

Joda
Apr 24, 2010

When I'm off, I just like to really let go and have fun, y'know?

Fun Shoe
Realized my contract literally has a clause saying ANY creative endeavor or IP I produce while employed is their property by default, even if produced on my own time and completely irrelevant to the product. Would probably be a really good deal for them to completely keep me from building a portfolio if it wasn't so aggressively illegal. Definitely gonna ask my boss to have it replaced with one specifically relating to potentially competing products. gently caress I hate predatory practices like these.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
At my last job, they tried to get all employees to sign something similar. I brought it back with a bunch of those lines blacked out.

Happiness Commando
Feb 1, 2002
$$ joy at gunpoint $$

I can't find the right thread for this, can someone either give me an explanation of static routing, or point me where I should ask it?

I have a VM in our production environment that I have replicating to our DR environment with vSphere replication. The machine has two network adapters - one for the prod subnet, and one for the DR subnet. Only one adapter is active at any given moment. If I fail over to DR, I need a static route to allow communication to the DR domain controller, otherwise it will time out or try to use out of date cached credentials.

I'm not at it right now, but I tried something like New-NetRoute -DestinationPrefix [DR subnet /24] -ifIndex [N] -NextHop [Dr subnet gateway] when it was in production, and then I replicated it to the DR environment, swapped network adapters, and it failed - it kept trying to load the cached credentials and wouldn't log on.

For reasons, having an active spare in the DR environment is undesirable, so the choice is between figuring out how to get network routing working or for the IT team to log into this machine every time they change their password to update the cached credentials.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Does this help you?

https://docs.vmware.com/en/Site-Recovery-Manager/8.1/com.vmware.srm.admin.doc/GUID-25B33730-14BE-4268-9D88-1129011AFB39.html

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

meself posted:

Boss, blah blah happened. I've done X to mitigate further damage. To rectify what was already done, do you want me to do Y or Z?


Boss posted:

thanks

PBS
Sep 21, 2015

That's probably my biggest pet peeve. It tells you they haven't actually read your email at all.

Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.
Alternately, your boss is saying, “yes, do (Y or Z) and revert get back to me with your results.”

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Agrikk posted:

Alternately, your boss is saying, “yes, do (Y or Z) and revert get back to me with your results.”

Unless you specifically have "Do Y/Z" in writing, your rear end it not covered.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Agrikk posted:

Alternately, your boss is saying, “yes, do (Y or Z) and revert get back to me with your results.”

This is usually the case when your boss doesn't understand what you are talking about enough to have an opinion and views you as the expert. I would start such an email with "I have a few long term solutions and I need you to pick one. I put a temporary measure in place of X in place for problem P, there are pros and cons to both X and Y which would be a long term solution X can be done in a few hours but will require the P to be inaccessible for this period of time. Y will take me 2 weeks but result in no downtime. Let me know which solution you would like to go with"

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

pixaal posted:

This is usually the case when your boss doesn't understand what you are talking about enough to have an opinion and views you as the expert. I would start such an email with "I have a few long term solutions and I need you to pick one. I put a temporary measure in place of X in place for problem P, there are pros and cons to both X and Y which would be a long term solution X can be done in a few hours but will require the P to be inaccessible for this period of time. Y will take me 2 weeks but result in no downtime. Let me know which solution you would like to go with"

I've done that one and gotten back 'Yes'

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




tactlessbastard posted:

I've done that one and gotten back 'Yes'

Simple solution. Reply back with what you plan to do, give them a day to say no or ask for more details, then do it..

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


ratbert90 posted:

At my last job, they tried to get all employees to sign something similar. I brought it back with a bunch of those lines blacked out.

Reminds me of that Russian that returned the credit card application with his own terms (unlimited balance and no repayments - or something like that)

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Joda posted:

Realized my contract literally has a clause saying ANY creative endeavor or IP I produce while employed is their property by default, even if produced on my own time and completely irrelevant to the product. Would probably be a really good deal for them to completely keep me from building a portfolio if it wasn't so aggressively illegal. Definitely gonna ask my boss to have it replaced with one specifically relating to potentially competing products. gently caress I hate predatory practices like these.

Eh, I don't think its worth the waves it will cause. Its laughably unenforceable so it being there doesn't mean anything. It might as well say that they own the blood of your first born and have rights to your eternal soul or whatever.

Its a good sign that your company is complete poo poo and you shouldn't work there but I wouldn't sweat something like that unless the goal was to tell people to gently caress off.

If its not on company time or using company resources they have zero right to anything no matter what dumb clauses they put in a contract.

Sickening fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Jan 20, 2019

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Humphreys posted:

Reminds me of that Russian that returned the credit card application with his own terms (unlimited balance and no repayments - or something like that)

Actually, he wasn’t Russian. Just married to one.

Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.

mllaneza posted:

Simple solution. Reply back with what you plan to do, give them a day to say no or ask for more details, then do it..

This.

UNODIR is the way to go here.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Sickening posted:

Eh, I don't think its worth the waves it will cause. Its laughably unenforceable so it being there doesn't mean anything. It might as well say that they own the blood of your first born and have rights to your eternal soul or whatever.

Its a good sign that your company is complete poo poo and you shouldn't work there but I wouldn't sweat something like that unless the goal was to tell people to gently caress off.

If its not on company time or using company resources they have zero right to anything no matter what dumb clauses they put in a contract.

We had that clause at Blizzard, but they had you list everything you had already created, and anytime you made anything new you took it to them to add to the list. as long as you maintained that list of "this is not the company's" work, there was no challenge to be had.

Thought it was funny watching some of the artists go in every week with another stack of drawing to add to the list.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

RFC2324 posted:

Thought it was funny watching some of the artists go in every week with another stack of drawing to add to the list.

The thought of this actually amuses me no end, given that there's a non-zero chance a decent portion of that was likely erotic, furry, or both.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I think you'd start getting into drawing that stuff just to piss off the people who made the rule

nexus6
Sep 2, 2011

If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes
Just watched the Fyre documentary on Netflix and so much of it relates, especially the bit where the marketing guy emails the boss saying "We don't have enough accommodation for the people coming. You need to cancel them or they're going to get here and have nowhere to stay and no way to get home" and the boss just replies "Well they'll get to see you!".

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


The Netflix doc was made by the social media company that marketed the festival and are also named in the class action. The Hulu doc covers it from a different angle.

angry armadillo
Jul 26, 2010

Sickening posted:

Eh, I don't think its worth the waves it will cause. Its laughably unenforceable so it being there doesn't mean anything. It might as well say that they own the blood of your first born and have rights to your eternal soul or whatever.

Its a good sign that your company is complete poo poo and you shouldn't work there but I wouldn't sweat something like that unless the goal was to tell people to gently caress off.

If its not on company time or using company resources they have zero right to anything no matter what dumb clauses they put in a contract.
We have something on the horizon where we lost access to a bit of software (long story) so someone in the relevant department got his wife to make a clever spreadsheet to replicate the task the software did and keep things ticking over in that particular department - he emailed it in to himself so no question of charging us to use his wifes work or whatever (the spreadsheet isn't that complicated tbh to be worth money...)

however, now we are about to implement some new software to do this task properly and we think Mr Spreadsheet is probably going to sabotage the entire thing and probably try and claim IP amongst other things.

I believe there is a long term plan to just put him in another department further complicated by the fact he doesn't want to go and is the union rep so is pushing certain buttons in that regard...

I'll just focus on making sure the new software is available and the backups of current data are easily accessible haha.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

angry armadillo posted:

is the union rep so is pushing certain buttons in that regard...

the americans in the audience probably need some clarification here. I know I'm not entirely sure

The Macaroni
Dec 20, 2002
...it does nothing.
Telephone interview tomorrow. When they ask why I'm leaving my current post, is it sufficient to give a detailed "I'm looking for new challenges and I know you're on a different vendor in a different market and have global users"-type answer? Or do I need to address specifics at all?

Ironically the answer I gave when I was interviewing for my current job was, "I'm looking for a place that's more interested in innovation than my current position," only to find that innovative solutions are actively squelched here.

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit

Thanks Ants posted:

I think you'd start getting into drawing that stuff just to piss off the people who made the rule

Hell, I'd start drawing the nastiest Furry/Shadman type stuff if it meant that humorless robot Ion had to look at them.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

The Macaroni posted:

Telephone interview tomorrow. When they ask why I'm leaving my current post, is it sufficient to give a detailed "I'm looking for new challenges and I know you're on a different vendor in a different market and have global users"-type answer? Or do I need to address specifics at all?

Ironically the answer I gave when I was interviewing for my current job was, "I'm looking for a place that's more interested in innovation than my current position," only to find that innovative solutions are actively squelched here.

You can probably forget focusing on the specific vendor stuff if it's that different. Tell them what KIND of challenges you're looking for, and why you think they can help you experience them. Remember; you're mainly looking to explain similarities in skillsets you can apply to THEIR role for your prior experience. They key aspect they care about is that you have skills in managing large groups of users via [TYPE of software/hardware] rather than any little detail over the specifics of what you use. When they ask about the nitty-gritty off your CV (What did you use for your current/previous role? Have you had experience with our software/hardware before?), then you go into detail about that sort of thing.

duffmensch
Feb 20, 2004

Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem!
You should be fine with what you’ve got and can bring up specifics if you’re feeling that it’d be useful at that point. Otherwise, you could bring up the specifics when you’re asking questions about them: “I’ve heard you guys do X, which really intrigues me - I’d like to know more about it”.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Neddy Seagoon posted:

The thought of this actually amuses me no end, given that there's a non-zero chance a decent portion of that was likely erotic, furry, or both.

I forget where I read this, so it may be in the same realm as a "my uncle who works at Nintendo" story, but a while back there was an article about Disney artists that said Disney keeps an archive of anything involving their properties done by their artists, which ends up including a lot of erotic drawings.

The Macaroni
Dec 20, 2002
...it does nothing.

Neddy Seagoon posted:

You can probably forget focusing on the specific vendor stuff if it's that different. Tell them what KIND of challenges you're looking for, and why you think they can help you experience them. Remember; you're mainly looking to explain similarities in skillsets you can apply to THEIR role for your prior experience. They key aspect they care about is that you have skills in managing large groups of users via [TYPE of software/hardware] rather than any little detail over the specifics of what you use. When they ask about the nitty-gritty off your CV (What did you use for your current/previous role? Have you had experience with our software/hardware before?), then you go into detail about that sort of thing.
My main worry is that I've only been in my current role about a year and if they straight up ask "So why are you looking to leave your current position?" (vs. "Why do you want to work for us?") I want to avoid an answer like "This place is a seething, toxic swamp that has seen 80% overall turnover in the year I've been here."

If they even ask that, I was thinking of something like "My expectations for my current role didn't match the actual work I'm assigned. Of course a person has to be flexible, but I was hoping to work on the things described in the position you're offering and I'm not currently getting those opportunities." I did once get asked why I was leaving a job after little more than a year, and I had a good answer (it was a tiny startup where any given day might have seen the lights go out; also I had a 4-hour roundtrip commute that I was done with).

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

The Macaroni posted:

My main worry is that I've only been in my current role about a year and if they straight up ask "So why are you looking to leave your current position?" (vs. "Why do you want to work for us?") I want to avoid an answer like "This place is a seething, toxic swamp that has seen 80% overall turnover in the year I've been here."

If they even ask that, I was thinking of something like "My expectations for my current role didn't match the actual work I'm assigned. Of course a person has to be flexible, but I was hoping to work on the things described in the position you're offering and I'm not currently getting those opportunities." I did once get asked why I was leaving a job after little more than a year, and I had a good answer (it was a tiny startup where any given day might have seen the lights go out; also I had a 4-hour roundtrip commute that I was done with).

Yeah, there really isn't a way to say "they lied to me in my interview, and that set the tone for the next year at this dumpsterfire of a firm" in an interview.

Rooted Vegetable
Jun 1, 2002

Methylethylaldehyde posted:

Yeah, there really isn't a way to say "they lied to me in my interview, and that set the tone for the next year at this dumpsterfire of a firm" in an interview.

I once had to leave a job after just 3.5 months, and if I'm honest, I knew by the third day (first being orientation, 2nd being training and 3rd asking some direct questions) that this role was a huge mistake. In the job interview, which I ended up getting an offer out of, I was asked why I was leaving so soon. The following things were said:
1. I was on a temporary role, but what I left out was that it was temporary for 2 years.
2. I did say something to the effect of "expectations that were set did not line up with the reality of the role", being brief but direct about it.
3. I then followed up that the experience had taught me about what I truly was looking for and said that I'd be asking a few questions about the new role later. I would have always done this, but used it as proof that I had no intention of letting it happen twice.

It was so long ago I cannot remember the exact words, but I can say that it was perhaps 2-3 sentences and less than 20 seconds of talking. We then carried on with the interview, which I was decently qualified for and I nailed it.

I'm being a bit cavalier I'll admit, but I'd say deal with it directly and say you know what you want and this wasn't it.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

If it's a bigger company/potential market you could butter them up with something like "I've identified your company as a leader in (x) and I feel there will be better opportunities there"

If it's a different platform/application you could do the same with "I've always admired (x) and have wanted to work with it since (current company) doesn't use (x)"

I've literally never had problems with that question, even when I was 6 weeks in at a position at a larger company that did the same thing as the smaller one I was applying for.

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

Scaramouche posted:

If it's a bigger company/potential market you could butter them up with something like "I've identified your company as a leader in (x) and I feel there will be better opportunities there"

If it's a different platform/application you could do the same with "I've always admired (x) and have wanted to work with it since (current company) doesn't use (x)"

I've literally never had problems with that question, even when I was 6 weeks in at a position at a larger company that did the same thing as the smaller one I was applying for.

Joke's on you, your interviewer loving hates (x)

ponzicar
Mar 17, 2008
I think questions like that are designed to weed out terrible candidates, so if your answer is anything professional sounding, they'll just move on to the next question, but if you decide to use it as an opportunity to vent about how terrible your current boss is and how stupid your coworkers are, you'll probably not end up working there.

Rooted Vegetable
Jun 1, 2002

ponzicar posted:

I think questions like that are designed to weed out terrible candidates, so if your answer is anything professional sounding, they'll just move on to the next question, but if you decide to use it as an opportunity to vent about how terrible your current boss is and how stupid your coworkers are, you'll probably not end up working there.

That reminds me of another story, that a manager-friend told me ages ago: He had a person say, with only light bashfulness at best, that he'd burned his bridges with his old company. This was early in the interview and manager-friend spent some time interrogating him before not hiring.

In conclusion: Don't say that.

tactlessbastard posted:

Joke's on you, your interviewer loving hates (x)

Generally I find that if that's the case, (x) will be handed to you and they'll walk away. Your task is to determine the amount, and what kind of poison is in the challis of (x)

Rooted Vegetable fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Jan 22, 2019

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fist4jesus
Nov 24, 2002

ponzicar posted:

I think questions like that are designed to weed out terrible candidates, so if your answer is anything professional sounding, they'll just move on to the next question, but if you decide to use it as an opportunity to vent about how terrible your current boss is and how stupid your coworkers are, you'll probably not end up working there.

I'll put my hand up to being stupid enough to answer honestly. No I didn't get the job.

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