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why yes, we should definitely turn off voicemail transcription company-wide because it is not 100% perfect 
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One of our teams is buying a plugin that doesn't work with Windows 10 and requires ArcGIS 10.2 or lower (released in 2014). The manual states that "The data to run <tool> is held in a series of Access tables".
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Aug 3, 2020 16:07
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u brexit ukip it posted:One of our teams is buying a plugin that doesn't work with Windows 10 and requires ArcGIS 10.2 or lower (released in 2014). The manual states that "The data to run <tool> is held in a series of Access tables". Access....so that's Microsoft right?
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Aug 3, 2020 18:12
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u brexit ukip it posted:One of our teams is buying a plugin that doesn't work with Windows 10 and requires ArcGIS 10.2 or lower (released in 2014). The manual states that "The data to run <tool> is held in a series of Access tables". I can sympathize with someone who buys a thing that checks all the boxes at the time and then finds out the hard way that the vendor didn't care about long term support, but something like this needs to have some good way for IT people to put their foot down when it's outdated before you even start. Not supporting Windows 10 at all should have been a red flag by 2016 and a hard no by 2017. Now that Windows 7 is entirely unsupported in a reasonable world any vendor saying they don't support Windows 10 would be literally laughed out of the building.
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Aug 3, 2020 21:33
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It's getting better, not fast enough, but organizations are starting to figure out that if you can't update software you're gonna get owned (either because the hardware dies or you get hacked). It's a culture that didn't exist 20 years ago and the same dinosaurs that were making decisions back then are making decisions now because boomers never die.
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Aug 3, 2020 21:39
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vp is mad at me because our log retention is only 90 days
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Aug 3, 2020 21:46
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wolrah posted:I really wish some standards or regulatory organization that management types will take seriously would come out and basically say in management-friendly terms that any software vendors that can't be bothered to support a five year old operating system are incompetent chucklefucks that should not just never be paid for software but should probably have their computers taken away and replaced with crayons. It's getting better. People like the NCSC are providing information on things like passwords and supporting not having them expire, using single sign-on, enforcing MFA etc. that we can wave in the face of people who say "I want passwords to change every 30 days", and are quite specific about the problem of running ancient software (https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/guidance/obsolete-platforms-security-guidance). It's stuff that we've been saying for years but having a government body say the same thing really adds weight to the argument.
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Aug 3, 2020 22:14
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Thanks Ants posted:It's getting better. People like the NCSC are providing information on things like passwords and supporting not having them expire, using single sign-on, enforcing MFA etc. that we can wave in the face of people who say "I want passwords to change every 30 days", and are quite specific about the problem of running ancient software (https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/guidance/obsolete-platforms-security-guidance). The NIST does the same thing for U.S. people, if your American company wants a domestic source. 
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Aug 3, 2020 22:22
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I'm not sure when exactly the government bodies decided to get involved with offering advice and publishing best practises, and for those to align with what security professionals are saying, but it's always a bit jarring to see a government IT source not talking about strong passwords and VPNs.
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Aug 3, 2020 22:36
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22 Eargesplitten posted:I have been playing a ton of video games since moving into this apartment, though. That and job applications, still waiting to hear back on one that would be a 50% raise, they said I'm in the top 3 choices and should hear back by Tuesday at the latest. Grats! I just had a fairly successful phone interviewer with a recruiter who handles helpdesk at ibm. Hit it off, ran out of time, rescheduled serious employment talk for tomorrow. I guess that's a good sign! Everyone's gotta get their foot in the door somewhere.
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Aug 3, 2020 22:45
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Thanatosian posted:The NIST does the same thing for U.S. people, if your American company wants a domestic source. The password expiration thing is something the inforsec leadership is going to have a tough time accepting for a long time. An entire generation is going to have to die, at least.
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Aug 3, 2020 23:27
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Friend of mine in another division of the same company got fired today for “disparaging remarks about supervisor on social media “ The remarks: Did not mention the company or the supervisor by name Were made on a private discord server with a grand total of 9 users. lovely way to end the day.
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Aug 4, 2020 02:43
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The Fool posted:Friend of mine in another division of the same company got fired today for “disparaging remarks about supervisor on social media “ Know who the snitch is?
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Aug 4, 2020 02:48
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The Fool posted:Friend of mine in another division of the same company got fired today for “disparaging remarks about supervisor on social media “ Out this fool, privately, so that no one you work with will ever trust them In fact, narrow it down now and hellban them by getting everyone else on that server to block them without anyone telling them.
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Aug 4, 2020 02:55
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The snitch was a friend of a friend and doesn’t work at the company, just happened to also be friends with supervisor. Small town effect. AFAIK, he’s been kicked off the discord.
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Aug 4, 2020 03:06
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The Fool posted:The snitch was a friend of a friend and doesn’t work at the company, just happened to also be friends with supervisor. Small town effect. Hellban him IRL, start shunning him, get your other friends on board. gently caress that class traitor.
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Aug 4, 2020 04:16
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Thanatosian posted:Hellban him IRL, start shunning him, get your other friends on board. gently caress that class traitor.
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Aug 4, 2020 04:31
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I couldn't imagine the pettiness involved with taking a discord discussion you saw from a friend of a friend to get that person fired. That person is without a doubt doing lovely things you don't know about behind your back. 
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Aug 4, 2020 04:40
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Thanatosian posted:Hellban him IRL, start shunning him, get your other friends on board. gently caress that class traitor. Not emptyquoting. gently caress people who do this kind of poo poo.
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Aug 4, 2020 06:12
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Snitches in ditches IMO.
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Aug 4, 2020 07:03
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Thanks Ants posted:It's getting better. People like the NCSC are providing information on things like passwords and supporting not having them expire, using single sign-on, enforcing MFA etc. that we can wave in the face of people who say "I want passwords to change every 30 days", and are quite specific about the problem of running ancient software (https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/guidance/obsolete-platforms-security-guidance).  NCSC are good folks, as spooks go. They've been very helpful to point to when people say that open source is insecure.
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Aug 4, 2020 07:09
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Aug 4, 2020 09:43
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Lmao I was questioning why a government account was able to be phished and totally missed that it was a personal account
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Aug 4, 2020 11:10
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Thanks Ants posted:Lmao I was questioning why a government account was able to be phished and totally missed that it was a personal account quote:Whitehall sources indicated the documents were hacked from a personal account rather than a parliamentary or ministerial one, prompting Labour to ask why Fox was using unsecured personal emails for government business. I guess for the malicious code to be able to be run, it wasn't on his official, locked-down govt computer, but on his personal computer that probably hadn't been updated for months and had outdated AV software.
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Aug 4, 2020 11:27
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u brexit ukip it posted:One of our teams is buying a plugin that doesn't work with Windows 10 and requires ArcGIS 10.2 or lower (released in 2014). The manual states that "The data to run <tool> is held in a series of Access tables". PHP5 stopped receiving security updates in 2018
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Aug 4, 2020 11:38
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Collateral Damage posted:At my most recent gig I had to support a PHP web application which in tyool 2020 still isn't updated for PHP7. Do you work at my old job bonus points if they run them on CentOS servers that haven't been patched in years
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Aug 4, 2020 12:43
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Moo the cow posted:I guess for the malicious code to be able to be run, it wasn't on his official, locked-down govt computer, but on his personal computer that probably hadn't been updated for months and had outdated AV software. Civil servants (that need it) have a special "secure" email address in addition to their normal work address, and that shouldn't've been anywhere near a non-secure laptop, but it's also true that when a minister says jump, people ask how high.
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Aug 4, 2020 13:04
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Internet Explorer posted:why yes, we should definitely turn off voicemail company-wide This only un-ironically. Also speaker phone. Also all phone communications, actually?
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Aug 4, 2020 13:08
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Jaded Burnout posted:Civil servants (that need it) have a special "secure" email address in addition to their normal work address, and that shouldn't've been anywhere near a non-secure laptop, but it's also true that when a minister says jump, people ask how high. Sorry, that's not what I was pondering about. I meant that for this to work, not only was he not using either of his secure, official email accounts that should have picked this up that his credentials were stolen, but it means he was doing official work on a personal laptop, without the security features in the OS to prevent the credential stealing in the first place. As in he must have forwarded these Very Important Documents to his gmail account and then on his laptop, he clicked on a link about a Fedex invoice.
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Aug 4, 2020 13:39
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Moo the cow posted:Sorry, that's not what I was pondering about. Yeah that's kinda what I meant also. Either a personal email address or his non-secure work one, and the "minister" part meaning nobody's putting their neck out to tell him not to (or say no if he says "forward me that stuff so I don't have to dig out the other laptop").
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Aug 4, 2020 14:58
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Jaded Burnout posted:Yeah that's kinda what I meant also. Either a personal email address or his non-secure work one, and the "minister" part meaning nobody's putting their neck out to tell him not to (or say no if he says "forward me that stuff so I don't have to dig out the other laptop"). Want to make a wager as to what email provider he was using? In my heart, I feel it's yahoo.co.uk
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Aug 4, 2020 15:12
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Aug 4, 2020 15:13
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Schadenboner posted:This only un-ironically. yes but transcribed voicemail gets you a step closer to that, not a step further away
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Aug 4, 2020 16:11
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Internet Explorer posted:yes but transcribed voicemail gets you a step closer to that, not a step further away Oh, it was also an edit-joke. I mean murder voicemail (but also that other stuff).
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Aug 4, 2020 16:18
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Schadenboner posted:I mean murder voicemail
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Aug 4, 2020 16:20
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Ugh, literally getting flashbacks to working internal IT for a lovely regional telco and all the loving SMB sales reps were in their own little room next to the IT shop and they all loving used speakerphone.
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Aug 4, 2020 16:23
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Schadenboner posted:Ugh, literally getting flashbacks to working internal IT for a lovely regional telco and all the loving SMB sales reps were in their own little room next to the IT shop and they all loving used speakerphone. I like when people in one office call the guy in the office 3 doors over, both on speaker phone so you get stereo sound
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Aug 4, 2020 16:32
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People who use speaker when they are only on the call by themselves in that room are the loving worse and should be fired into the sun. Use a headset you monsters. The worst part is I've known way too many people in IT who do that.
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Aug 4, 2020 16:36
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I am scared of my phone, something horrible like snakes or spiders will flood out of the earpiece if I pick it up. So I put a ridiculous amount of effort into never touching my phone at work.
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Internet Explorer posted:People who use speaker when they are only on the call by themselves in that room are the loving worse and should be fired into the sun. Use a headset you monsters. The worst part is I've known way too many people in IT who do that. I'm convinced that like 40% of the incoming calls I deal with are some rear end in a top hat on speaker phone in an environment that they have no business being on speaker phone on. Like I get that stuff is non-optimal in the time of Covid, but gently caress. I've had people sound like they were calling from aluminum tubes, they echo so bad (and I can hear myself when I speak, which also echoes).
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