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Snipee
Mar 26, 2010
I already miss London. I thought that the whole of season 2 was going to be in Europe, and I am still bummed out this is not the case.

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Snipee
Mar 26, 2010
I like the idea that Mycroft was speaking to the British government, but I don't know why that would be an urgent matter.

Snipee
Mar 26, 2010
That was an incredible episode. I forgot how scary and unstable Sherlock could be, but fortunately, the writers didn't.

Snipee
Mar 26, 2010
Man, Bell just gets screwed over all the time in this show. Why don't they put Gregson's rear end on the line for once?

Snipee
Mar 26, 2010
I feel like an idiot. I thought the guy Sherlock was sponsering was really nice and cool (especially after seeing how uncomfortable and unawkward Sherlock was), and I was happy for Bell that he is getting a chance to work elsewhere (although I'm not sure if he's actually getting ready to leave the show). Did I completely read these characters wrong?

Snipee
Mar 26, 2010
I just assumed that the show has a few conservative writers and dropped the whole "demographics division" issue at that. Oh, I really like Bell, and I hope things turn out ok. :(

Snipee
Mar 26, 2010
I finally finished watching Sherlock on my winter break... I do not care what anyone says, Elementary is better. :colbert:

Snipee
Mar 26, 2010

Zore posted:

I think the biggest difference between the two shows is in how they treat the main character. Elementary is fundamentally about change, Sherlock ran himself into rock bottom and is being forced to rebuild into something different and more human. He's trying to change and fundamentally wants to change.

In Sherlock, Holmes does not want to change. He's deliberately alien and disturbing, and is presented as fundamentally inhuman. He lives in a world of myth, with fantastical powers and wonders.

Basically Elementary is a show about a flawed man, Sherlock is the myth of a wizard/classical hero. They're about very, very different things.

I agree with this. Moffat is much better at writing for Doctor Who (a show about a time-traveling alien who really is superior to everyone and everything else in the room) than for Sherlock. Their interpretation of Moriarty was disappointing for the same reason. The guy was flatly insane, and he was constantly built up as this Nietzschean Ubermensch that no one could touch. I mean, I wanted a little more evil from the Moriarty in Elementary, but I was still very much satisfied with the writing. Elementary is just a much more realistic show about someone who just happens to be a few standard deviations above the norm; Sherlock is about someone with more or less magical powers explained away as "deduction".

Snipee
Mar 26, 2010
Robert Downey Jr. is my favorite; the little gimmick where time slows down to a crawl while his thoughts race towards a solution is both hilarious and awesome. Lucy Liu and Miller is definitely the best Watson/Holmes pairing though.

Snipee
Mar 26, 2010
I like this season a lot, but I feel like season 1 was stronger. I don't really see what ties any of these episodes together other than some hints about Mycroft is plotting something fishing.

Snipee
Mar 26, 2010

CuwiKhons posted:

As somebody who has been on archaeology digs (admittedly not dinosaur related ones), I just... :negative:

This made me laugh because I had a TA two years ago who was so excited about her experiences and future career as an archaeologist, and you made me think her.

I'm glad that there are nerds (I say this as a compliment) to fact check this show. I pretty much go to this thread specifically for that reason.

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Snipee
Mar 26, 2010
Lucy Liu directed one of the best episodes of Elementary I have seen in a long time. It could just be the writing though.

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