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thrawn527 posted:Really looking forward to this being back. Especially for the first episode having Rhys Ifans playing Mycroft Holmes! I know he's been in a lot of stuff, but I only really remember him as being "underwear at the door guy" from Notting Hill.
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Dragonatrix posted:
Honestly, I'm pretty much okay with anything that doesn't automatically present London as a fog-shrouded, pseudo-Victorian hellscape.
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Sep 28, 2013 03:50
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The whole episode reminds of this. See how far you guys can get into it before your brains curl up and start crying. I didn't make past page one.
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Oct 5, 2013 05:23
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ookiimarukochan posted:He's from London - I suspect he's aware that if beers usually cost $2.50 in New York, there would be considerably more British ex-pats in the place. Maybe, maybe not. Remember Sherlock's "attic theory." He might not have considered the normal price of beer to be relevant data and thus never bothered to learn it.
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Oct 6, 2013 16:36
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violetdragon posted:I felt the same way. I openly mocked the concept for the show when I first heard about it, but now I think I like it more than the UK Sherlock. I'm very happy they've avoided going on the sexual tension between Sherlock and Watson route. In truth there's probably more sexual tension between Holmes and Watson on "Sherlock" than there is between Sherlock and Joan in "Elementary."
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Oct 7, 2013 08:31
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I loved how when "Everyone" demanded naked pictures, Sherlock was ready to strip down right there, while Joan was like, "Oh, hell no."
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Oct 11, 2013 13:01
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Hypocrisy posted:I hope Watson does solve one of those cold cases before season 2 ends. I don't see Watson solving one of the cases so much as finding some new bit of info or outlook that allows Holmes to take a fresh, more successful crack at solving it with her helping him. One thing I love about Holmes is when he talks about his methods, which he really doesn't do as much anymore. When ACD wrote these stories forensics was in its infancy. Holmes "methods" would have been held at around the same level as spiritualism and the theory of ether. A century or so later every police officer and especially criminalist has to demonstrate a full and thorough grounding in Holmes' "methods" before they're allowed to work in their professions. It's like Michael Jordan is/was very good at basketball, but it's not like he invented the game. johntfs fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Nov 1, 2013 |
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Nov 1, 2013 20:57
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ashpanash posted:I believe Sherlock said "I found out when I spoke to him last week" or something to that effect. I think that implies direct communication of some type. Maybe Father didn't mention the phone call to Mycroft, so Mycroft didn't know about it.
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Nov 15, 2013 19:06
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pentyne posted:The whole "I'm a seriously bad person who will hurt someone the moment it gives me an advantage" seemed a little trite. The more they try to emphasize Sherlock's dark side without him doing anything seriously dark the less I believe his claims of being some monster. Outside of him torturing the man he thought killed Irene Sherlock hasn't done anything shocking or repulsive that would make Watson wary of him. I think the fact that he was ready to frame the killer from last night is a pretty good indicator of how dangerous he can be. You'll note that Watson didn't talk him down by appealing to his sense of justice or morality, she did it by revealing an as yet uninvestigated aspect of his crimes - the fact that he'd need to feed/guard/store his victims. If that aspect hadn't been considered, I have no problem believing that Sherlock would have framed Lucas Bundsch. Assuming that attempt failed, I have no problem believing that Sherlock would have murdered Bundsch to stop him and avenge his victims.
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Nov 22, 2013 18:16
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GreenNight posted:Did anyone ever see the made for TV movies Mr Boogedy in the 80s? I swear the bad guy in the latest ep was the dad from those films. I instantly recognized his voice even though it's been over 20 years since I've seen the flicks. Yes, Richard Masur was in both. I need to check out Mr. Boogedy again. Man, it's hard to believe that Kristy Swanson, the original Buffy, is now 44 years old.
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Dec 23, 2013 20:28
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Pick posted:People were hee-hawing about Elementary being a rip-off of Sherlock, but honestly Elementary seems like the kind of show you'd make if you didn't like Sherlock. I've seen very little of the BBC Sherlock, but it seems to be something where the leads and set could be transported whole back to the 19th century with no real impact to the show. Elementary is a show that is very much in and of the 21st century. I recall someone saying that Johnny Lee Miller's Sherlock was like an eager puppy dog while Benedict Cumberbatch's Sherlock was more like an imperious cat. Well, maybe. That said, I believe that if angered, Cumberbatch's Sherlock might hiss and spit at you, while Johnny Lee Miller's Sherlock would rip out your throat.
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Dec 24, 2013 00:49
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I loved Sherlock threatening to sign the NSA guy up for membership in Plushie websites.
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Jan 10, 2014 23:31
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BreakAtmo posted:Well, Sherlock was responsible for baiting the shooter and accidentally ruining his life, leading to Bell's palsy. That said, I think the severe animosity Bell showed was a bit overblown and should have been more directed at the guy who, y'know, shot him, who was hardly innocent in the first place. First, Bell's Palsy. Ha! Second, the guy who shot Bell is dead. Sherlock is still strutting around being Sherlock. I can see the animosity reasoning.
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Jan 11, 2014 04:08
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I've just watched my first episode of Sherlock on PBS. Thus far I have learn that I was correct in one supposition I had made. There is, in fact, more sexual tension between Sherlock and John Watson in Sherlock than there is Joan Watson and Sherlock on Elementary.
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Jan 20, 2014 08:15
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New Episode tonight Dead Clade Walking Joan discovers an unsolved murder connected to a rare prehistoric fossil.  For awhile I kept reading the title as "Dead Clyde Walking" and was getting very concerned.
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Jan 30, 2014 23:37
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Dragonatrix posted:The dinosaur thing was a really cool framing device for one the cold cases, I gotta say. Might not hold up to any real scrutiny, but I'm not exactly into archaeology or its ilk so I didn't really notice. As an introduction to the kind of stuff we might see down the line, it worked remarkably well and got me interested to see what future ones might have in store. I like that the cold case played out kind of like I predicted earlier. Joan didn't solve the case, but she did find a decent opening that warranted Sherlock taking another look at it from a different direction. As for Vosloo's character, he's dead. Sherlock's very forward/relevant thinking. He doesn't care who used to be the biggest, just who's the biggest right now. Presumably when smuggling comes up again he's not going to mention the Magpie either unless it happens to be relevant to his current case ("Such and so is rumored to be the heir of the Magpie").
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Jan 31, 2014 16:32
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I loved Lucy's expression there. Kind of a silent "Oh, poo poo, Sherlock."
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Feb 7, 2014 04:23
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It's still kind of weird to have reruns during February sweeps.
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Feb 14, 2014 10:28
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I am so glad we're finally getting a new episode this Thursday.
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Feb 23, 2014 18:08
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I loved Joan/ "I'm not going to call them that. I'm not 12." "We own chickens now, don't we?"
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Feb 28, 2014 08:04
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Well, maybe not the "tried to unionize the dishwashers" part. I can easily accept "hates the clientele." I really liked the scene where Lestrade admitted his real situation to Sherlock and you come to understand that Lestrade himself had become a version of a prostitute. I love the way this show takes characters from the Conan Doyle canon and stretches them by putting them in situations far different from those in the stories.
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Feb 28, 2014 23:42
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One of the things I love most about Elementary is their consistent writing of fully realized people as their characters. You can see the waiter and Miss Truepenny being the protagonists of their own stories within the larger episode. I kind of felt bad for Miss Truepenny, especially after she was on the receiving end of Joan's "I don't do coconut water" death stare.
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Mar 2, 2014 01:06
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I didn't think they'd go there with LeStrade, but I liked that they effectively went somewhere even more shameful. Instead of just sleeping with the CEO, he helps drag other people into the guy's bed. He goes from famous, GREG-chatting detective to amateur corporate pimp.
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Mar 6, 2014 03:53
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BlueFootedBoobie posted:This episode was kinda about Phillip Seymour Hoffman, right? Or Heath Ledger. Or any one of the many, many other people who have destroyed themselves with drugs.
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Apr 12, 2014 00:14
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Csn we sticky this for today?
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May 1, 2014 18:16
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I'm about halfway through this episode. "That's won't be an issue. If anything happens to Joan, I will murder you."
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May 2, 2014 08:55
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hollylolly posted:I'm really excited for the last two episodes, guys. I can't believe Clyde was a spy for MI6 the whole time. What do you mean, "seriously?" I have no trouble believing that Clyde has a camera/listening device built into his shell.
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May 2, 2014 19:20
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KentuckyFriedBonBon posted:It always feels like he's not comfortable just asking things of her, so he shows up with breakfast and clothes and a turtle as if that somehow makes it better. So awkward. I think it's kind of a reflection of his ego. Sherlock's problems were so terrible and insurmountable that not even Sherlock could deal with them alone. The very fact that Joan was able to help him makes her like unto a goddess in his mind. Plus, he feels the awkwardness of "Now that you've stitched my mind and soul back together and dragged me from the gutters of drug abuse into true functionality, would you mind terribly popping by the store and getting those snacks I like so much?"
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May 4, 2014 07:05
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Compendium posted:Also, an interesting thing to note that just occurred to me now, I think the show kinda raised a really interesting point in terms of the Holmes mythos where Sherlock and Watson are more connected to each other than Sherlock is with his own brother and Watson basically takes precedence over his own blood. I mean, in the original stories, Mycroft just wasn't there a lot and the same goes for a lot of other adaptions save maybe the BBC one. Though, after watching the recent episode, the Mycroft and Sherlock dynamic is way more ripe for conflict and way more interesting than the BBC one. It's pretty clear that in Elementary, there are some deeply hosed up family dynamics in the Holmes household. Sherlock just described his father as a "Lovecraftian horror." There's been no mention of his mother, which makes me think that she dead (or worse?) For all the sniping between Mycroft and Sherlock in Sherlock, I can't imagine Cumberbatch's character saying "I wish your cancer had rotted you to the bone" or "If something happens to John Watson, I will murder you."
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May 4, 2014 07:37
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BreakAtmo posted:Did anyone else find this part hysterical? What makes it even better is Sherlock asking the exact same question that Mycroft just asked.
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May 5, 2014 21:36
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KentuckyFriedBonBon posted:I like the Mycroft moment even better if you imagine that he's forgotten himself, that he's also worried about Joan and he wants to investigate this to the best of his actual abilities. But then his brother gives him The Look, and he thinks oh poo poo that's right he thinks I'm an idiot and says he's just trying to be like Joan. Both brothers thinking they're following the other, each one under the impression that they're trying to stop the other from cocking this whole thing up. It agree that it's much cooler to imagine Mycroft your way and I love that Sherlock is unquestionably petty. As for the "big man moment," that's Joan's reward as well. There was no realistic expectation that Joan was going to be able to save herself from this situation. She just doesn't have the skills or resources yet. However, she kept it together and maybe her compassion caused the guys to hesitate a little at the end. At the very least she wasn't unconscious due to drugs or panic, so she got to see Mycroft's big man moment. Which is a big deal, because Mycroft being the "big man" was his very big secret and now Joan knows it. That's her reward. She gets to learn and reveal a mystery about Sherlock's own brother which Sherlock did not know even existed.
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Pick posted:He also stands to inherit half of an apparently exorbitant fortune! Assuming their father ever dies. He is a Lovecraftian horror, after all.
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