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Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

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Jedit posted:

She didn't catch it. She only noticed it after Sherlock dropped the hint that beers were being sold for $2.50.

That's giving credit in the wrong place. Certainly, Sherlock observed that the beers were being sold for $2.50, and used that for his calculations, but I don't think that he knew the significance of them being $2.50. There's no reason why he should know the price of typical beer in U.S. bars, and several good reasons why he shouldn't know that.

Sherlock made the observation, but it was Joan who realized the importance of it.

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Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

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Jedit posted:

That's precisely backwards. Holmes says that Watson is not going to take his advice about giving the money to the son. He adds that there are better ways to spend $22,000, such as buying 8800 beers. Watson takes it as a joke at first, but then works out that this comes to only $2.50 a beer; Holmes then tells her about the four beers for $10. Watson says that would only happen during happy hour, but the timestamp isn't right for that, and Holmes points out that it's a digital timestamp.

So no, Watson doesn't spot it for herself. She just draws all the right conclusions as Holmes nudges her through it.

I don't agree that Holmes knew all along and was poking Watson until she got it. I had the impression from that scene that Holmes was still stuck. Normally, Holmes doesn't try to hide his solutions. I think Holmes simply wasn't aware that beers don't normally cost $2.50.

That makes sense, because Holmes isn't exactly the type to hang out at a pub with friends, because he doesn't really have friends. He was in New York for rehab, and while it wasn't alcohol-related rehab, I think that going into bars is discouraged for addicts. There's no real reason why he would have bothered to remember that beers don't cost $2.50.

I don't think either of them on their own could have put that together, this was only solved because of both of them.

Stabbey_the_Clown fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Oct 5, 2013

Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

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I was surprised that there wasn't a twist and Kleinfelter was actually the murderer.

Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

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The agent who was guarding Moriarty was utterly brain-dead. Oh she is telling me about her plans to escape including specific details. I think I'll stare at the blood on the floor with such intent focus as to completely ignore the dangerous criminal casually walking behind me.

I did like that her clever escape route had a huge flaw though, with the severe blood loss almots killing her. Not quite as smart an escape plan as she thought.

Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

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devoir posted:

It's the first time I can remember seeing it executed, I thought it was pretty novel.

I suspected him because he accidentally gave away specific details, not once, but twice.

The first time, he knew about the suicide note. The second time, he knew exactly where the murder weapon which killed his wife was placed. Good foreshadowing. I do appreciate when they put in details to let the viewer solve the mystery on their own.

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