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I haven't played the series, but I believe one of the Deponia games has a puzzle where an organ grinder needs a monkey for his show or something. And the solution is to sell a black woman into slavery to him? EDIT: Hell of a first post for a new page.
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Finished The Excavation of Hobb's Barrow. It was extremely well polished but never clicked for me. Not sure why. Good though.
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Veotax posted:I haven't played the series, but I believe one of the Deponia games has a puzzle where an organ grinder needs a monkey for his show or something. And the solution is to sell a black woman into slavery to him? Jesus. Uhh, that sounds as good a reason as any to skip. Maybe, er, I'll consider the abovementioned Excavation of Hobb's Barrow then. Always enjoy a Wadjet Eye game, and it is in my wishlist. Also have Voodoo Detective, Kathy Rain: Director's Cut, Metaphobia and Crowns and Pawns: Kingdom of Deceit in there too, so plenty of options. Ooh, and Obra Dinn, which I know is meant to be great. What keeps putting me off that one is that I often end up playing while herbally influenced, and from that sounds of it that might not be a great idea with that game. OneSizeFitsAll fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Nov 11, 2022 |
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Try the remaster with it's camera-based control option, see if it helps at all? I'll probably give it another shot in the future. When I played it a decade ago or so, it just didn't click with me at all.
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OneSizeFitsAll posted:Kathy Rain: Director's Cut, I hadn’t played the director’s cut, but I really enjoyed Kathy Rain. Felt very Gabriel knight. They were saying they were hoping to get funding to make a sequel to it.
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# ? Nov 11, 2022 18:25 |
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Payndz posted:(I don't remember a gag in any adventure ever making me laugh out loud.) Not even flushing spaghetti into the future and it gaining meatballs?
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In adventure-ish news, the sequel to West of Loathing just dropped on Steam with no prior announcement.
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Veotax posted:I haven't played the series, but I believe one of the Deponia games has a puzzle where an organ grinder needs a monkey for his show or something. And the solution is to sell a black woman into slavery to him? Rufus does indeed sell a woman into slavery to be a replacement monkey. I generally enjoyed the gameplay and art style of the Deponia games. As adventure games they're generally fine but they do have their issues. The protagonist is a narcissistic sociopath and some of the puzzles relish in that fact. The fourth game in the series is in my top ten of the biggest waste of times spent playing a game ever!
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# ? Nov 11, 2022 19:24 |
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Megazver posted:In adventure-ish news, the sequel to West of Loathing just dropped on Steam with no prior announcement. Oh dang. I liked West of Loathing but found out later that the creator is not a very good person. I hadn't kept track of whether they're still involved, that would impact my decision here.
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# ? Nov 11, 2022 19:28 |
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Captain Hygiene posted:Oh dang. I liked West of Loathing but found out later that the creator is not a very good person. I hadn't kept track of whether they're still involved, that would impact my decision here. Oh really? That's a shame as I really enjoyed West Of Loathing.
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# ? Nov 11, 2022 23:06 |
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Zack Johnson is indeed a very nasty person and was also very much involved in Shadows Over Loathing. I would link to news stories but they generally involve stories of abuse.
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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:Zack Johnson is indeed a very nasty person and was also very much involved in Shadows Over Loathing. this sucks man
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Are there some shining examples of text adventures people can recommend? I haven't played many, and the ones I've played, I didn't get far in - the Lurking Horror, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I remember playing one where you'd have a little guy with you who'd be doing stuff, but I can't recall the name. Like: You are standing in the central square. There's a market full of people. There is a box here. Dennis* scratches his back. *it wasn't Dennis, but some generic name, like Dave, or Kevin.
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# ? Nov 13, 2022 18:48 |
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davidspackage posted:Are there some shining examples of text adventures people can recommend? You can start with Anchorhead, considered one of the greats of the genre. You can also find a lot more in the thread dedicated to the genre.
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davidspackage posted:Are there some shining examples of text adventures people can recommend? I haven't played many, and the ones I've played, I didn't get far in - the Lurking Horror, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I remember playing one where you'd have a little guy with you who'd be doing stuff, but I can't recall the name. Like: I haven't played the Infocom games in at least a couple of decades. I remember in a couple of them you had a robot companion called Floyd.
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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:Zack Johnson is indeed a very nasty person and was also very much involved in Shadows Over Loathing. Aw man, I was really looking forward to playing it and West of Loathing was one of my favorite games. What a piece of poo poo.
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davidspackage posted:Are there some shining examples of text adventures people can recommend? I haven't played many, and the ones I've played, I didn't get far in - the Lurking Horror, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Roadwarden's demo was pretty good, I should get around to getting the full game someday soon. It has some visuals to get you in the mood but it largely plays as your standard text adventure. The world feels really well-crafted.
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Saoshyant posted:You can start with Anchorhead, considered one of the greats of the genre. Oh cool, didn't realize there was one, I've now bookmarked it. I really enjoyed the first part/episode of Stories Untold, which has you play a text adventure while you see and hear things happening to the room around the computer you're playing on, and I loved that, so while I'm interested in classic games, I'm also really keen on modern meta takes on them.
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davidspackage posted:Are there some shining examples of text adventures people can recommend? I haven't played many, and the ones I've played, I didn't get far in - the Lurking Horror, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I remember playing one where you'd have a little guy with you who'd be doing stuff, but I can't recall the name. Like: You are standing in a field west of a white house. Zork is great fun. I played Zork on stream a couple years back and had chat decide what I should try when I couldn't figure anything out. Zork 2(return to Zork) and 3(Grand Inquisitor?) Are also great fun, but are graphical games.
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davidspackage posted:Are there some shining examples of text adventures people can recommend? I haven't played many, and the ones I've played, I didn't get far in - the Lurking Horror, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I remember playing one where you'd have a little guy with you who'd be doing stuff, but I can't recall the name. Like: I’m not sure where it can be found these days, but Eric the Unready was a great mix of still illustrations and text adventure. There was some clicking on the illustrations but everything was described via text. This is from 1992 so I’m unsure how the humor holds up, but I remember it being funny. Edit: oh hey it’s on GOG and Steam!
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davidspackage posted:Oh cool, didn't realize there was one, I've now bookmarked it. I really enjoyed the first part/episode of Stories Untold, which has you play a text adventure while you see and hear things happening to the room around the computer you're playing on, and I loved that, so while I'm interested in classic games, I'm also really keen on modern meta takes on them. There's a ton of modern IF that does interesting things with the format, cleverly turning words and writing into the mechanics of the game rather than just being the medium of delivery: Counterfeit Monkey by Emily Short is one of the all time greats PataNoir by Simon Christiansen (who is also a goon) Metamorphoses also by Emily Short Lost Pig by Admiral Jota The IF Database has everything you need to find exactly the sort of stuff you might want to play, including polls and lists made by the community that highlight collections of games with particular traits. If you're just wanting to get your feet wet I recommend avoiding Infocom (they're obtuse & difficult, plus modern parsers have come a loooong way since the 80's) and start off with some shorter games that you can get through in a single sititng. I'd recommend Shrapnel, Fish Bowl, 9:05, Glowgrass, or the aforementioned Lost Pig to get going. Glowgrass, Lost Pig, and Counterfeit Monkey are also great examples of how robust the parser can be, where almost any reasonable action you can think of is likely to give you some sort of unique response rather than "I don't understand 'fart on the troll'". Play around with it, try everything. For me, the magic of modern IF is in making you feel like you're actually there in the story, making choices and reacting to events just as you would in reality. A lot of modern IF is really good at immersing you in that way.
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Thanks a lot for these suggestions, guys!
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Duderclese posted:You are standing in a field west of a white house. Zork 2 and Zork 3 are text adventures, and there's at least one more trilogy there you're missing, there were a LOT of Zork games during the boom times of interactive fiction.
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ookiimarukochan posted:Zork 2 and Zork 3 are text adventures, and there's at least one more trilogy there you're missing, there were a LOT of Zork games during the boom times of interactive fiction. Thanks for this, my memory is hazy due to a mixture of being very young when playing them originally, and various substance use. I will again reaffirm that the Zork games have a great sense of humor and are great fun. Definitely worth the price of entry.
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treat posted:Counterfeit Monkey by Emily Short is one of the all time greats These are indeed the ones I would recommend the most.
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My favourite Zork game is Sorcerer if only because, like the Hitchhikers Guide, you could spend hours just wading through the Encyclopedia Frobozzica and casting every single spell on every single thing to see what happens. My favourite Infocom is still probably Moonmist, a junior level game that is basically Cluedo with secret passages, random selection of the murderer, and that you can order like 8 people to play the piano at once.
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Dennis sounds more like a cardinal direction to me
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davidspackage posted:Are there some shining examples of text adventures people can recommend? I haven't played many, and the ones I've played, I didn't get far in - the Lurking Horror, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I remember playing one where you'd have a little guy with you who'd be doing stuff, but I can't recall the name. Like: For Infocom, Planetfall and Enchanter are fantastic. They have some BS moments but have generally fair and well crafted puzzles. Definitely play Enchanter if you liked Loom. Someone made a mod of Planetfall to make it much more fair: https://github.com/kweepa/planetfall-gold Perdition’s Flames (https://ifdb.org/viewgame?id=9pirdetlvv55uaob) Has a big world (bureaucratic Hell) with a ton of puzzles. It's very funny and well crafted. You can't die or get stuck in a dead end but the puzzles are tough.
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i played through return to monkey island in one sitting basically. which, obviously means i enjoyed it quite a bit. i kind of feel let down by the ending though. not because of its trollish nature, which is par for the course for Ron, but because I feel like the game was building to an emotional payoff that didn't happen (i'm not talking about the secret itself, that has nothing to do with it). they go to great lengths to show how obsessive Guybrush has become, how unhinged he is breaking the crown and stealing the key from herman, and the moment where Flambe says he and LeChuck deserve each other... as well as the other moments with LeChuck dealing with his disgruntled crew questioning his motives... that all felt like it was building to a payoff of some kind, and because of the nature of the ending, that storytelling is just flat out cut off. yeah, the dialog choices between Guybrush and his kid are valid in regards to dealing with a convoluted legacy and having an impossible mystery to resolve satisfactorily, but the lack of an emotional climax is what bothers me more than anything to do with the actual secret of monkey island. The best we get is Elaine bringing up Guybrush's trail of destruction but then sort of tabling the issue for a later that never comes. Like, yes, I get the connective tissue of her saying the secret's not going to live up to expectations, and the ending. But I'm just talking about the paths the characters take over the course of this story. The ending in the park is a solid epilogue to the series, and it's neat to see how there's a bunch of different little ending splinters based on whether you use the key, whether you go back through the door, what you tell your kid the secret is.... but for the game itself, I feel like I wanted a couple more scenes before that epilogue. I think you can have an emotional payoff and still have your troll swerve. I feel like ToMI stuck the landing better, although it has been quite a long time since I played through that series. But aside from that I thought RtMI was very good. Warthur posted:Return to Monkey Island ending thoughts: The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Nov 14, 2022 |
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I really enjoyed playing both Tales and Return, but thought that the serious themes in the endings of the two games seemed heavy handed and a little out of place.
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I go under the knife Wednesday for a non-dominant hand injury. Looking for recs for easy-to-control point&clicks. Played and liked: Book of Unwritten Tales series, Blackwell series Secret files series. To play: Monkey Island series Syberia series Rest of Wadjet games Gabriel Knight series Broken sword series What else?
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Space Quest 5. Kyrandia 2. All the LucasArts adventure games other than Zak McKracken and I guess Grim Fandango.
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I remember liking Scratches, and there’s a director’s cut out now. Edit: Apparently this isn’t purchasable anymore?
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Gorilla Radio posted:I go under the knife Wednesday for a non-dominant hand injury. Looking for recs for easy-to-control point&clicks. Really just run through the catalogue of LucasArts games imo, aside from grim fandango and MI4 I spose but I'd honestly just not recommend playing that game in general tbf
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Gorilla Radio posted:I go under the knife Wednesday for a non-dominant hand injury. Looking for recs for easy-to-control point&clicks. Oxenfree.
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People tend to recommend the same short list of point-and-clicks because our memories fit about seven things at a time and that doesn't leave room for, let's say, any of the games listed here. I'd suggest going to https://adventuregamers.com/ and perusing their Aggie Awards, Highly Rated and Best Games lists.
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There are so many point and clicks, it's crazy. Nearing the end of Justin Wack and the Big Time Hack, I like it, the characters are charming the puzzles are fine and it's got cute shoutouts to its bros in the kickstarter P&C posse like Gibbous. But I am never going to forgive it for gently chiding me for not getting an achievement that it spent some time patiently signposting me towards. If you want me to do something gate it off argh
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IPlayVideoGames posted:I remember liking Scratches, and there’s a director’s cut out now. Yeah the publisher who owned the rights went under and it's stuck in a weird legal limbo where they don't know who actually owns it.
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it's available on archive.org at least.
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Scratches will forever make me wanna replay Temujin. I still have the box and hint book from the original pictures a million years ago. Great memories of that game.
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