This is the coast guard thread, i think?

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krispykremessuck: Jul 22, 2005; unlike most veterans and SA members $10 is not a meaningful expenditure for me

I'm gonna have me a swag Bar-B-Q

ElMaligno posted:

Gonna quote part of it:

code:

If a
member received an unsatisfactory conduct mark, courts-martial
conviction(s), or NJP punishment(s), the commanding officer should
consider how the severity and nature of the offense(s) impact the
members overall record of service during the current period of
enlistment, and convey this information in their recommendation.

I was talking to a senior chief buddy of mine about this the other day, and it's really similar to how poo poo was going during the Clinton RIF. I'd expect those exceptions to be exclusionary. In other words, if you meet any of the things not included on that list of exceptions, you're hosed. Wait and see, I guess, but I wouldn't be surprised if things shake out that way.

Did they ban smoking on duty? Or is that just someone talking out of their rear end.

# ? Mar 14, 2014 19:05

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# ? Apr 26, 2024 10:32

ElMaligno: Dec 31, 2004; Be Gay!
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krispykremessuck posted:

Did they ban smoking on duty? Or is that just someone talking out of their rear end.

It sounds like someone is smoking out of their rear end.

There is also a new commandant susbtance abuse policy in the works, its probably as awsome as you guys think.
Sneak peak:

quote:

a. Establishing a minimum drinking age of 21 years of age for
all active duty Coast Guardsmen, except when on authorized leave. While
on authorized leave, Coast Guardsmen shall comply with the minimum
drinking age for the jurisdiction in which they are present.
...
j. Expand the scope of zero tolerance for illicit drug use by
prohibiting the unlawful use of designer drugs, over-the-counter
products, and other substances.
k. Increase urinalysis quotas and scope of testing.

Very progressive!

# ? Mar 14, 2014 19:32

nwin: Feb 25, 2002; make's u think

krispykremessuck posted:

I was talking to a senior chief buddy of mine about this the other day, and it's really similar to how poo poo was going during the Clinton RIF. I'd expect those exceptions to be exclusionary. In other words, if you meet any of the things not included on that list of exceptions, you're hosed. Wait and see, I guess, but I wouldn't be surprised if things shake out that way.

Did they ban smoking on duty? Or is that just someone talking out of their rear end.

Eh definitely not coast guard wide, but CO's do not have to provide a designated smoking area/allow smoking on base, so maybe that's what the guy is getting at?

# ? Mar 15, 2014 15:54

krispykremessuck: Jul 22, 2005; unlike most veterans and SA members $10 is not a meaningful expenditure for me

I'm gonna have me a swag Bar-B-Q

nwin posted:

Eh definitely not coast guard wide, but CO's do not have to provide a designated smoking area/allow smoking on base, so maybe that's what the guy is getting at?

I thought that claim sounded a little much. This guy said the same thing about Papp getting rid of coffee messes as well, which I told him I refused to believe. This wasn't the senior chief, by the way. I think one unit where he's at probably did it and he just assumed it was a CG wide thing.

# ? Mar 15, 2014 17:22

Gordo Frederico: Mar 15, 2014; by Ralp

Question. Im 26 with no degree(40 Credits) working a dead end job(Security) is joining the CG for four years to learn a trade and than dropping out a good idea?

# ? Mar 17, 2014 15:18

Whip Slagcheek: Sep 21, 2008; Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
For The Night

Gordo Frederico posted:

Question. Im 26 with no degree(40 Credits) working a dead end job(Security) is joining the CG for four years to learn a trade and than dropping out a good idea?

Are you just going to every service thread to ask if you should join? Because that's really annoying and I'm probably going to probate you for it.

# ? Mar 17, 2014 16:24

Gordo Frederico: Mar 15, 2014; by Ralp

Whip Slagcheek posted:

Are you just going to every service thread to ask if you should join? Because that's really annoying and I'm probably going to probate you for it.

Isn't that the purpose of an internet forum. To talk and exchange information/ideas?

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# ? Mar 17, 2014 17:13

NIGGER DEATH TURBO: Jul 4, 2013; by Lowtax

Gordo Frederico posted:

Isn't that the purpose of an internet forum. To talk and exchange information/ideas?

sounds like suicide is likely a better option for you than the military which would likely drive you to suicide anyways

# ? Mar 17, 2014 17:18

krispykremessuck: Jul 22, 2005; unlike most veterans and SA members $10 is not a meaningful expenditure for me

I'm gonna have me a swag Bar-B-Q

Gordo Frederico posted:

Isn't that the purpose of an internet forum. To talk and exchange information/ideas?

There's an ask us about joining thread for people to tell you not to join. But to even entertain the idea, why would the Coast Guard pick you over an 18 year old kid? Or better, a 22-23 year old kid that just finished college and is dumb enough to enlist (this happens a lot)?

Go see a recruiter and talk to them.

# ? Mar 17, 2014 17:23

nwin: Feb 25, 2002; make's u think

krispykremessuck posted:

I thought that claim sounded a little much. This guy said the same thing about Papp getting rid of coffee messes as well, which I told him I refused to believe. This wasn't the senior chief, by the way. I think one unit where he's at probably did it and he just assumed it was a CG wide thing.

Haha, that's loving ridiculous. Are you talking to some non-rate at a Sector or something?

# ? Mar 18, 2014 00:33

Cole: Nov 24, 2004; DUNSON'D

Gordo Frederico posted:

Isn't that the purpose of an internet forum. To talk and exchange information/ideas?

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Fukkkin ownt

# ? Mar 18, 2014 13:31

krispykremessuck: Jul 22, 2005; unlike most veterans and SA members $10 is not a meaningful expenditure for me

I'm gonna have me a swag Bar-B-Q

nwin posted:

Haha, that's loving ridiculous. Are you talking to some non-rate at a Sector or something?

Not a sector. I dunno, I generally considered this guy pretty credible, but I think that the tenant command at his unit decided to do something and he assumed it was COMDT policy. Knowing the OIC of that unit, neither of those things are unbelievable.

# ? Mar 18, 2014 18:11

ElMaligno: Dec 31, 2004; Be Gay!
Do Crime!

So we pulled into port ~12 hours early to avoid this:

South of Cape Cod

Noaa.gov posted:

TONIGHT
NW WINDS 50 TO 65 KT...DIMINISHING TO 35 TO 45 KT. NW
PORTION...SEAS 23 TO 38 FT...SUBSIDING TO 15 TO 26 FT AFTER
MIDNIGHT. SE PORTION...SEAS 27 TO 42 FT...SUBSIDING TO 20 TO 31
FT AFTER MIDNIGHT. CHANCE OF SNOW AFTER MIDNIGHT.

East of Cape Cod

Noaa.gov posted:

TONIGHT
N WINDS 45 TO 60 KT...BECOMING NW 40 TO 55 KT...THEN...
DIMINISHING TO 35 TO 45 KT AFTER MIDNIGHT. NW PORTION...SEAS 15 TO
30 FT...SUBSIDING TO 12 TO 21 FT AFTER MIDNIGHT. SE PORTION...SEAS
23 TO 38 FT...SUBSIDING TO 15 TO 26 FT AFTER MIDNIGHT. CHANCE OF
SNOW AFTER MIDNIGHT.

INSIDE Cape Cod

Noaa.gov posted:

TONIGHT
NW WINDS 30 TO 40 KT...DIMINISHING TO 25 TO 30 KT
AFTER MIDNIGHT. GUSTS UP TO 50 KT. SEAS 6 TO 9 FT. LIGHT FREEZING
SPRAY.

# ? Mar 26, 2014 23:15

krispykremessuck: Jul 22, 2005; unlike most veterans and SA members $10 is not a meaningful expenditure for me

I'm gonna have me a swag Bar-B-Q

ElMaligno posted:

So we pulled into port ~12 hours early to avoid this:

South of Cape Cod

East of Cape Cod

INSIDE Cape Cod

meh

# ? Mar 26, 2014 23:18

ElMaligno: Dec 31, 2004; Be Gay!
Do Crime!

krispykremessuck posted:

meh

True, but it would have destroyed the lovely rust floating bucket whereas every other class of cutter would mostly giggle and laugh at those waves.

# ? Mar 26, 2014 23:22

Elendil004: Mar 22, 2003; The prognosis
is not good.

ElMaligno posted:

True, but it would have destroyed the lovely rust floating bucket whereas every other class of cutter would mostly giggle and laugh at those waves.

Which bucket are you on now?

# ? Mar 27, 2014 04:21

ElMaligno: Dec 31, 2004; Be Gay!
Do Crime!

Elendil004 posted:

Which bucket are you on now?

A 270

# ? Mar 27, 2014 04:27

Elendil004: Mar 22, 2003; The prognosis
is not good.

ElMaligno posted:

A 270

Boston based? Is there a BM3 (maybe BM2 now) Patrick White onboard?

# ? Mar 27, 2014 04:28

ElMaligno: Dec 31, 2004; Be Gay!
Do Crime!

Elendil004 posted:

Boston based? Is there a BM3 (maybe BM2 now) Patrick White onboard?

Nope, Portsmouth.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 04:53

nwin: Feb 25, 2002; make's u think

uhh...

quote:

R 272009Z MAR 14

ALCOAST 127/14
COMDTNOTE 6200
SUBJ: COAST GUARD EXERCISE PROGRAM PHASE TWO
1. The Coast Guard completed phase one of its exercise study to
analyze overall fitness in Sep 2013. The results can be found at:
https://cglink.uscg.mil/8d2307b5.
2. Phase two of this study will analyze four different learning
modalities to determine the best method for improving our services
overall fitness. Members of units who participated in phase one will
be administered the Coast Guard Athleticism Assessment by the Unit
Health Promotion Coordinator. The assessment directions and scoring
sheet can be found at: https://cglink.uscg.mil/894845cd. Once the
assessment has been completed it should be e-mailed to the cognizant
Regional Health Promotion Manager NLT 14 April.
3. Members who complete the assessment will be sent a very short
survey by the Headquarters Fitness Advisory Committee (FAC), placed
in one of four exercise groups, and asked to follow a specific
fitness program for 12 weeks. The four groups are:
A. Group A will be a control group. This group will be asked to
continue with their normal workout found in their Personal Fitness
Plan form CG-6049.
B. Group B will follow the Physical Health Instruction Training
(PHIT) program, a modification of the Navy Fitness and Fueling
series. This program may be viewed at:
https://cglink.uscg.mil/b809ebc8.
C. Group C will follow the Coast Guard Athleticism Program.
Instructional videos can be viewed at the following web site:
https://cglink.uscg.mil/e8caa008.
D. Group D will follow an instructor-led version of the Coast
Guard Athleticism Program.
4. At the end of a 12-week period, each unit will again administer
the Coast Guard Athleticism Assessment and participants will complete
a post assessment survey that will be e-mailed to them by the FAC.
5. The information obtained from this study will help Coast Guard
leadership develop future fitness program policies.
6. Questions concerning this ALCOAST can be sent to Mr. Tim Merrell
at timothy.m.merrell(at)uscg.mil, (202)475-5146 or CDR Joseph Perez
at Joseph.L.Perez(at)uscg.mil, (860)444-8352.
7. RADM Maura K. Dollymore, Director of Health, Safety, and
Work-Life, sends.
8. Internet release is authorized.

That Navy thing looks loving ridiculous. I looked at it at work for about 5 minutes before my brain nearly exploded. I think they are trying to make workouts that are 'realistic' to line handling and poo poo on a carrier?

So how's everyone doing it so far at their units? Our unit came out with a policy that basically said once a week each department will do group workout sessions, and that we have to be allotted an hour 3x a week to workout.

Nothing has been implemented yet really, but my division will probably start doing group runs once a week fairly soon just to keep everyone above nice and happy.

Oh, and haha. Apparently there's something in the manual that says we need to wear the PT poo poo from boot camp and now there is a New Balance PT shoe that is the only sneaker authorized for PT and/or light duty.

edit: I would look at the online UDC store, but apparently they still don't support Chrome or any other browser!

nwin fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Mar 30, 2014

# ? Mar 30, 2014 04:30

Elendil004: Mar 22, 2003; The prognosis
is not good.

I started running with Vibram's and it was legit the only way I could make a decent time, and I Went from pulling 11:50s to 10:00's just by shifting shoes and running styles. i would have been pissed if someone said "that doesn't count". Motherfucker did my legs move up and and down and move me along a 1.5 mile course? Then shut up.

# ? Mar 30, 2014 04:37

nwin: Feb 25, 2002; make's u think

Elendil004 posted:

I started running with Vibram's and it was legit the only way I could make a decent time, and I Went from pulling 11:50s to 10:00's just by shifting shoes and running styles. i would have been pissed if someone said "that doesn't count". Motherfucker did my legs move up and and down and move me along a 1.5 mile course? Then shut up.

That's interesting. I went from 12:30 in boot camp to 10:00 in OCS by running more.

However, I'm totally waiting to hear all the "But I have flat feet! Those sneakers don't work for me!" arguments.

On a somewhat more serious note, we had some people try out that new PT test at our Sector a few months back (the shuttle run and everything else they are trying) and someone broke their collarbone. Immediately, everyone (including myself) was saying "And that's why we don't have regimented PT, because people will get hurt". However, if you think about it, people that work out regularly are less prone to accidents, so sure-people that never worked out in the first place will get broke for a bit, but over time, it should be beneficial.

I secretly hope that the next COMDT and MCPOCG come out and say 'ain't nobody got time for that' and just completely abandon the mandated PT, but that's just wishful thinking.

# ? Mar 30, 2014 04:44

ElMaligno: Dec 31, 2004; Be Gay!
Do Crime!

nwin posted:

So how's everyone doing it so far at their units?

No one cares on my boat because TSTA is next month. We haven't even talked about it, and for a command that's so loving hard about COMDT policy this is one of the few things they ignore, which is funny as gently caress to me.

# ? Mar 30, 2014 05:30

krispykremessuck: Jul 22, 2005; unlike most veterans and SA members $10 is not a meaningful expenditure for me

I'm gonna have me a swag Bar-B-Q

nwin posted:

However, if you think about it, people that work out regularly are less prone to accidents, so sure-people that never worked out in the first place will get broke for a bit, but over time, it should be beneficial.

Ok... sir.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 03:04

nwin: Feb 25, 2002; make's u think

krispykremessuck posted:

Ok... sir.

Lay off bro. A lot of whiskey was drank last night. I fear that whiskey=kool aid. I'll start drinking military special ASAP.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 03:49

krispykremessuck: Jul 22, 2005; unlike most veterans and SA members $10 is not a meaningful expenditure for me

I'm gonna have me a swag Bar-B-Q

nwin posted:

Lay off bro. A lot of whiskey was drank last night. I fear that whiskey=kool aid. I'll start drinking military special ASAP.

Nah, just don't be fly so close to the sun with justifying stupid poo poo. No one here would narc you out for realtalking about how dumb organized/mandated PT is.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 05:03

nwin: Feb 25, 2002; make's u think

krispykremessuck posted:

Nah, just don't be fly so close to the sun with justifying stupid poo poo. No one here would narc you out for realtalking about how dumb organized/mandated PT is.

Oh, don't get me wrong-I don't like it. I'd much rather prefer we were all treated like adults and given the same freedom/responsibility others are given/we used to be given in the past. We'll give you 180 minutes per week to work out, no problem. However, if weigh-ins come around and you fail, it's on you.

The plan we have at our unit states you can use the 60 minutes/three times a week whenever you want. However, if you want to use it at any point during the work day, you have to check in/out with your supervisor. We used to leave an hour before the workday ended three times a week and go work out. Were there people that didn't? I'm sure of it. However, when weigh-ins came around, no one could bitch that they weren't afforded time to work out. Guess what, it worked fine. If you want to leave 3 hours early a week and go play WoW and lie about working out-whatever. Don't let me find out and don't fail your weigh in because no fucks will be given.

Now we're supposed to come back after our workout and check-in with our supervisor who may/may not even be there. There *is* some room for interpretation but a supervisor could take it as close to the letter as they wanted.

That went a completely different direction than what we were talking about, but I was reading the study and some of it does make sense. One would think that people who work out would be less prone to being broke-dicks over time. I'm guessing people smarter/in a higher position than me have already thought about the risks/rewards and decided that the opportunity cost is worth it. Who knows, maybe they are thinking that while some guys will continuously get hurt, then they'll just get med-boarded out or something anyways and it's a win/win for the bean counters?

What I'm curious about is what the new COMDT and MCPOCG come out with. I doubt they'll abandon it, but who knows? Wasn't it the current MCPOCG that was pushing for this all along anyways?

nwin fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Apr 2, 2014

# ? Apr 2, 2014 00:57

krispykremessuck: Jul 22, 2005; unlike most veterans and SA members $10 is not a meaningful expenditure for me

I'm gonna have me a swag Bar-B-Q

nwin posted:

What I'm curious about is what the new COMDT and MCPOCG come out with. I doubt they'll abandon it, but who knows? Wasn't it the current MCPOCG that was pushing for this all along anyways?

If it's still Leavitt, then yes. It's been his pet project since forever and he's definitely aiming for that to be his legacy. It's cool that I'm out now to watch two Senior Leadership people somehow end up at least as unpopular as Yost, which is really funny to me because that guy was probably the most unpopular commandant ever.

And you're right, they probably won't abandon it, but there's always hope. To your other points, I'm not gonna bother reading the study because it doesn't apply to me. I don't doubt that people who work out frequently and with structure probably end up in better shape and better coordinated. That's all well and good, but probably from a relatively self-selecting group of people. People who choose to work out are one thing, but that's going to be far from the norm based on the feeling at my last unit before I left.

I dunno, man. It's your problem now. Have fun juggling the green-belts every week that somehow are on light duty for years but never see a med board.

# ? Apr 2, 2014 04:17

nwin: Feb 25, 2002; make's u think

The simple answer to this is we should make them wear green belts and publicly shame them.

# ? Apr 2, 2014 11:06

krispykremessuck: Jul 22, 2005; unlike most veterans and SA members $10 is not a meaningful expenditure for me

I'm gonna have me a swag Bar-B-Q

nwin posted:

The simple answer to this is we should make them wear green belts and publicly shame them.

The simplest answer is to get rid of 90% of the Coast Guard, leave it extant in name only with a couple hundred commissioned officers to handle boarding/jurisdiction issues, and roll the missions into the Navy.

Hooyah.

# ? Apr 2, 2014 21:05

PookBear: Nov 1, 2008

why did legit war criminal get banned in GIP by some mod I've never heard of

# ? Apr 2, 2014 21:53

Elendil004: Mar 22, 2003; The prognosis
is not good.

Reverand maynard posted:

why did legit war criminal get banned in GIP by some mod I've never heard of

Because he posted hardcore piss pornography.

# ? Apr 2, 2014 22:29

Carteret: Nov 10, 2012

Reverand maynard posted:

why did legit war criminal get banned in GIP by some mod I've never heard of

# ? Apr 2, 2014 22:39

Cole: Nov 24, 2004; DUNSON'D

Elendil004 posted:

Because he posted hardcore piss pornography.

That's not a reason to ban someone it's a reason to jerk off

# ? Apr 2, 2014 22:41

nwin: Feb 25, 2002; make's u think

Pretty sure in the last month we've had 4 different training sessions that talked about sexual assault and tomorrow everybody's in SDB's to promote even more awareness!

The funniest part was how everyone found out about SDB's.

ALCOAST came out Friday of last week announcing to wear em Wednesday-I noticed it Friday and figured we wouldn't get an all-hands e-mail until Tuesday afternoon.

Sure enough, Tuesday came around first an O-5 came around just telling everyoner to wear them. Then he sent out an all-hands e-mail. Then the CMC sent out an all-hands e-mail. Then an LT from somewhere sent out an all-hands e-mail. Oh, and after the second e-mail, which quoted the loving ALCOAST, an LT down the cube-farm said "Wednesday, I thought the SDB's was scheduled for the 14th!?!? I'm pretty sure it's the 14th." No you loving idiot. Pay attention and loving read and maybe you will learn something.

quote:

Peter Gibbons: It's a problem of motivation, all right? Now if I work my rear end off and Initech ships a few extra units, I don't see another dime, so where's the motivation? And here's something else, Bob: I have eight different bosses right now.
Bob Slydell: I beg your pardon?
Peter Gibbons: Eight bosses.
Bob Slydell: Eight?
Peter Gibbons: Eight, Bob. So that means that when I make a mistake, I have eight different people coming by to tell me about it. That's my only real motivation is not to be hassled, that and the fear of losing my job. But you know, Bob, that will only make someone work just hard enough not to get fired.

It's funny, really. Back when I was an accountant I empathized with that movie. Now I'm an officer and I empathize. Hmm.

# ? Apr 9, 2014 01:42

ElMaligno: Dec 31, 2004; Be Gay!
Do Crime!

nwin posted:

I get this poo poo way too often

- District or sector sends an email to our shop email banglist about some poo poo.
- Said banglist includes all OS, cic watchstander, DIVO, some officier and ops.
- Ops reads that email and forwards it to the same banglist
- OSC reads OPS email and either forwards it to the OS or to the banglist.
- OS1 just laughs at the absurdity of it all.

FW:FW:FW:FW: OPERATION DICK WAVING (Check it out)

# ? Apr 9, 2014 14:16

krispykremessuck: Jul 22, 2005; unlike most veterans and SA members $10 is not a meaningful expenditure for me

I'm gonna have me a swag Bar-B-Q

nwin posted:

It's funny, really. Back when I was an accountant I empathized with that movie. Now I'm an officer and I empathize. Hmm.

I warned ya.

# ? Apr 9, 2014 21:21

nwin: Feb 25, 2002; make's u think

krispykremessuck posted:

I warned ya.

Oh I know it. I'd like to go back and see the loving chat logs or PM's between us of me thinking about joining almost 10 years ago. Shattered hopes/dreams itt.

nwin fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Apr 9, 2014

# ? Apr 9, 2014 22:28

nwin: Feb 25, 2002; make's u think

fyi, the best Officers calls are the ones where you can tell the O-4's and the GS-13 got their dick stomped on earlier their superior solely based on the looks of defeat on their faces.

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# ? Apr 26, 2024 10:32

krispykremessuck: Jul 22, 2005; unlike most veterans and SA members $10 is not a meaningful expenditure for me

I'm gonna have me a swag Bar-B-Q

nwin posted:

fyi, the best Officers calls are the ones where you can tell the O-4's and the GS-13 got their dick stomped on earlier their superior solely based on the looks of defeat on their faces.

Enjoy it tonight, you pay for it tomorrow.

# ? Apr 10, 2014 02:47

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