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Never thought Agatha Harkness and Helmut Zemo would be Marvel's break out favorites of 2021. What weird times we live in. Remember when everyone thought Marvel's villains, except Loki, were the weakest parts of their stories? Now with Thanos three straight villains have pretty much blown up to be huge favorites.
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Apr 9, 2021 01:32
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X-O posted:Never thought Agatha Harkness and Helmut Zemo would be Marvel's break out favorites of 2021. What weird times we live in. Remember when everyone thought Marvel's villains, except Loki, were the weakest parts of their stories? Now with Thanos three straight villains have pretty much blown up to be huge favorites. I won't discount the talent and appeal of the actors portraying those villains but there seems to be a correlation here with amount of screentime. Gives time to audiences to become familiar and writers time to do fun and interesting things. (I won't go as far as saying "character development").
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Apr 9, 2021 01:45
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X-O posted:Never thought Agatha Harkness and Helmut Zemo would be Marvel's break out favorites of 2021. What weird times we live in. Remember when everyone thought Marvel's villains, except Loki, were the weakest parts of their stories? Now with Thanos three straight villains have pretty much blown up to be huge favorites. I thought Ego was pretty great but yeah I guess he didn't blow up like the recent ones have
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Apr 9, 2021 01:53
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Ego blew up for sure.
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Apr 9, 2021 01:57
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kurt russell is cool and all but there wasn't much screentime between him getting close to quill and the reveal that he was actually a lying shitbag
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Apr 9, 2021 01:58
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Open Marriage Night posted:Ego blew up for sure. site posted:kurt russell is cool and all but there wasn't much screentime between him getting close to quill and the reveal that he was actually a lying shitbag whoosh
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Apr 9, 2021 02:00
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X-O posted:Never thought Agatha Harkness and Helmut Zemo would be Marvel's break out favorites of 2021. What weird times we live in. Remember when everyone thought Marvel's villains, except Loki, were the weakest parts of their stories? Now with Thanos three straight villains have pretty much blown up to be huge favorites. You forgot about Mysterio and Jude Law in the middle there.
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Apr 9, 2021 03:47
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Aphrodite posted:You forgot about Mysterio and Jude Law in the middle there. They both dead though. I'm wondering who would actually be on a Zemo lead Thunderbolts MCU team. Harkness and who else is both alive and played by an actor wanting to do a Disney tv show?
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Apr 9, 2021 03:53
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They'll just recast Abomination.
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Apr 9, 2021 03:54
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Rhyno posted:They'll just recast Abomination. Tim Roth would probably do a 6-10 episode Disney show now that I think about it.
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Apr 9, 2021 04:01
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Looking at his body of work for the last 10 years it would be a major step up.
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Apr 9, 2021 04:01
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Skwirl posted:They both dead though. It's not like doing a Disney TV show is a bad thing. It's getting talent, so I don't think they'd really have problems bringing people in if they wanted. I figure it would have Abomination and Walker at least. Then maybe Ghost, Justin Hammer, and some new people like Moonstone and Songbird.
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Apr 9, 2021 04:02
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Feige announced Roth is in She-Hulk back in December
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Apr 9, 2021 04:05
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Codependent Poster posted:It's not like doing a Disney TV show is a bad thing. It's getting talent, so I don't think they'd really have problems bringing people in if they wanted. I figure it would have Abomination and Walker at least. Then maybe Ghost, Justin Hammer, and some new people like Moonstone and Songbird. Walker being forced to work for Zemo would be hilarious. I forgot about Ghost, was Justin Hammer arrested for anything? I haven't seen Iron-Man 2 since it was in theaters. Anyways I really don't think Sam Rockwell would do a tv show.
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Apr 9, 2021 04:05
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Blockhouse posted:Feige announced Roth is in She-Hulk back in December
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Apr 9, 2021 04:08
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Why do you think Rockwell wouldn't do a Marvel TV series? Nowadays there's very little difference between doing prestige TV shows and films.
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Apr 9, 2021 04:13
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Skwirl posted:They both dead though. Carol sends Yon-Rogg back to the Kree with a message "don't gently caress with me", he's not dead. Min-Erva is probably dead though, though they could bring her back.
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Apr 9, 2021 04:13
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Nah, since they recast Gemma Chan for Eternals, I think that shows they aren't gonna use Minn-Erva again. It would make more sense for Moonstone or maybe even Marvel Boy to be the Captain Marvel-esque person on the team.
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Apr 9, 2021 04:15
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Codependent Poster posted:Why do you think Rockwell wouldn't do a Marvel TV series? Nowadays there's very little difference between doing prestige TV shows and films. I was gonna say "because he hasn't done tv in over 20 years aside from voice work," but checking he played choreographer Bob Fosse in a Hulu mini about Bob Fosse, so I retract that statement. He might if the money was enough and the role was interesting enough But there's still a big difference between movies and even prestige TV, you ain't gonna see any of the Avengers who have a movie named after them as a regular on a tv show until they're in the twilight of their careers.
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Apr 9, 2021 04:20
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I think they should just let him play Bob Fosse again. He could deploy his tremendous amoeba powers. Can you imagine how unstoppable Zemo would be with a little... sssssssteam heat? How Wonderful! fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Apr 9, 2021 |
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Apr 9, 2021 05:11
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Oh aren't you proud to be/ in that fraternity/ that great big Brotherhood of Evil Mutants?
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Apr 9, 2021 05:19
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Skwirl posted:I was gonna say "because he hasn't done tv in over 20 years aside from voice work," but checking he played choreographer Bob Fosse in a Hulu mini about Bob Fosse, so I retract that statement. He might if the money was enough and the role was interesting enough The TV shows feed into the films and vice versa. I don't think there's really much of any difference now. Like you're gonna have Ms. Marvel and Kate Bishop first show up on TV before being in movies. So long as the actors are getting paid and like the work, I don't think they'd say no to doing a series that would show up on Disney+ instead of in the theaters.
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Apr 9, 2021 05:29
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Codependent Poster posted:The TV shows feed into the films and vice versa. I don't think there's really much of any difference now. Like you're gonna have Ms. Marvel and Kate Bishop first show up on TV before being in movies. So long as the actors are getting paid and like the work, I don't think they'd say no to doing a series that would show up on Disney+ instead of in the theaters. You aren't going to see Chris Hemsworth on a Disney show outside a cameo or something done with existing footage. Same with Scarlett Johanson if the resurrect her, and I have strong doubts we'll see Kate Bishop or Ms Marvel in a movie in the next five years.
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Apr 9, 2021 05:42
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Anthony Mackie is on a Disney series right now. So was Elizabeth Olsen. Ms. Marvel is showing up in the next Captain Marvel movie.
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Apr 9, 2021 05:54
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Codependent Poster posted:Anthony Mackie is on a Disney series right now. So was Elizabeth Olsen. Ms. Marvel is showing up in the next Captain Marvel movie. Anthony Mackie and Elizabeth Olsen are in TV shows named after them, and were in movies that weren't named after them. I'm not saying there's no crossover between the two, I wouldn't be surprised if some A listers give their voice to the animated What If series because that's a job they could literally phone in, but there's still a difference between being a movie star and being a tv actor. There's a reason all these Disney shows are about secondary characters.
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Apr 9, 2021 06:00
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Sanschel posted:It’s very likely that a full roster Avengers led by Cap and Tony could’ve stopped Thanos early (imagine if Cap had been on Titan to reign in Star-Lord). So Zemo is indirectly responsible for Thanos wiping out half the universe. See, this is the kinda What If? episode I want to see, not "What if this character was actually that character?" but more "What would the butterfly effect be if this slight change happened?".
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Apr 9, 2021 06:18
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Skwirl posted:You aren't going to see Chris Hemsworth on a Disney show outside a cameo or something done with existing footage. Same with Scarlett Johanson if the resurrect her, and I have strong doubts we'll see Kate Bishop or Ms Marvel in a movie in the next five years. They've confirmed Ms Marvel is in Captain Marvel 2.
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Apr 9, 2021 06:24
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Codependent Poster posted:Nah, since they recast Gemma Chan for Eternals, I think that shows they aren't gonna use Minn-Erva again. It would make more sense for Moonstone or maybe even Marvel Boy to be the Captain Marvel-esque person on the team. I would not be opposed to seeing 2 Gemma Chen characters.
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Apr 9, 2021 06:45
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The only thing Zemo did wrong was blow up the UN and kill King T'Chaka, which tracks with the revelation that he's actually European royalty - of course he'd see an African king as disposable so long as it furthered his own goals.
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Apr 9, 2021 08:51
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Skwirl posted:They both dead though. Sam ends up taking over the Captain America role, the Thunderbolts bring aboard a new Falcon, someone with experience with aerial combat. Michael Keaton comes back to the MCU.
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Apr 9, 2021 12:48
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Today's episode of Falcon and Winter Soldier was excellent. Best one yet.
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Apr 9, 2021 13:21
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X-O posted:Today's episode of Falcon and Winter Soldier was excellent. Best one yet. 
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Apr 9, 2021 14:57
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Appropriate Poster/Post combo
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Apr 9, 2021 14:58
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Really thought for a second that Zemo was going to take the serum. But no he is a man of honor in that he truly believes the only super power should be inherited wealth.
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Apr 9, 2021 14:59
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This week's episode was definitely the best yet. Finally to the ol' fireworks factory with Walker. Kinda interesting how they do enough humanizing to see him as a person, but they've also done enough to see why he's a bad dude. Serum messing with his brain or not. They had a character explicitly say "Wow Carlie, you sure are my version of Captain America" for the one goon who told me that's not what the show is about. Got a legitimate laugh out of Bucky heckling Walker while the Dora were beating the hell out of him. Really curious to see the conclusion for Karli's character. I said years ago that Sam being a counselor was such a good character trait and hoped he would get to use it again as Captain America. I hope that they do more with it even if I enjoyed it coming up here.
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Apr 9, 2021 15:42
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Kinda can't see Zemo being in any form of Thunderbolts at this point unless he's using it as an elaborate ruse to recruit and then murder super-types which wouldn't be that bad as a concept change, actually
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Apr 9, 2021 15:52
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Felt kinda silly that the Dora Milaje would lose focus on the goal that easy but overall I really liked the episode.
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Apr 9, 2021 15:58
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OnimaruXLR posted:Kinda can't see Zemo being in any form of Thunderbolts at this point unless he's using it as an elaborate ruse to recruit and then murder super-types Talentless Zemo
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Apr 9, 2021 18:16
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Medullah posted:Sam ends up taking over the Captain America role, the Thunderbolts bring aboard a new Falcon, someone with experience with aerial combat. Michael Keaton comes back to the MCU. Speaking of people who absolutely won't do a TV show.
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Apr 9, 2021 19:25
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Skwirl posted:Speaking of people who absolutely won't do a TV show. Michael Keaton? He has a Hulu series coming out this year...
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