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Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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Rocking chair supremacy.

Going back to the Vegas thing from the last thread, that picture makes me even happier for him. He's always seemed like a really lovely guy out of character.

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Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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That Buzzcocks episode S24E04 is really good.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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Stormageddon posted:

Clarkson seems like he's playing a character, too, though. Like he knows who he appeals to and milks that for the attention it gets. He seems just as willing to laugh at jokes about him as the people making them, and there's something about that I like because our right wing assholes sure as gently caress don't.

His full name is Jeremy Clarkson, With His Outrageous Politically Incorrect Opinions Which He Has For Money.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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BrooklynBruiser posted:

That's the Wogan one, right? It's probably my favorite of the four that I posted.

Yeah, it's just utterly sublime. Wogan was perfect as a guest host, Hound's just really good at panel shows, and James Blunt was an amazingly good sport.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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I'm going to take this opportunity to express an opinion about the end of Lost that I've been reticent, indeed unable to express for years.

That dog, what a oval office.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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CaptainHollywood posted:

I'm just a little more than halfway through Season 1 of Sons of Anarchy. Am I wrong in thinking it's kind of like Grand Theft Auto the TV Show?

By season three it's turned into something much closer to a Duke Nukem Forever. From there it rushes headlong into Daikatana.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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I imagine it's a side effect of just how loving dull a Trek script is that over the course of what must feel like aeons the actors become disillusioned with the profession and spend all their working days wishing they were doing something, anything, else. And the most prominent profession in their proximity is directing.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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I believe that's what I said.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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What he said was not racist at all. And if you think it was then it's your own thoughts colouring his words.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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BrooklynBruiser posted:

"Guys please don't call out racism, I don't like reading about it."

Maybe it's a cultural thing distinct to America, and Irish Joe is actually spending his Wednesday nights wearing a pillowcase, but using dogs to describe black people really isn't a thing where I'm from.

Lovely Joe Stalin fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Oct 25, 2013

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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I didn't say any such thing. I said that perhaps Occupation was seeing things because he wanted to see them. Perhaps if you're so desperate to take a moral highground that you are making poo poo up you should sit the gently caress down?

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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Manos del Sino posted:

And just like that, my reignited love affair with TVIV died a quick death.

Thanks.

I apologise for taking part in this idiotic derail.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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I really want to re-watch Farscape, but when I bought the blu-rays I had to send them back due to unbalanced discs threatening to explode in the player. Never got around to picking them up again.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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A lot of people really love it. Never appealed to me though.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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What is better than that is that later on he fires multiple times, but always in single shots and in a duellist pose.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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Cassidy was good in Supernatural. I think her problems in Arrow are, as Flatscan said, the material she's given. Mind you, you could actually see her face in Supernatural, perhaps the ludicrous amounts of make-up she's plastering on now might also be obscuring her acting.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:

You don't have to like the Mentalist - which is fine - but it is in fact a different show from Psych, with a different style and different premise.

Yeah, to say that it is ripping off Psych is just absolute bollocks, they are nothing alike. To say that they are would suggest never having seen the one or the other of them.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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zoux posted:

Doug Benson has a webseries on Youtube called Getting Doug with High where he smokes weed with comedians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLOF2es9tu8

As a premise, that sounds utterly insufferable.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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Notch got exceptionally lucky in taking someone else's idea and making it just about work. Beyond the bare bones almost everything that makes Minecraft worth playing has been made by the community, and Notch himself has proven unable to do anything even remotely as interesting or successful as a follow-up. Why anyone would think that he would be a good chat show guest is beyond me. He seems conversationally dull and gives the distinct impression of being on the spectrum.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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Aphrodite posted:

Because Ferguson doesn't care about that nerd poo poo, he wanted a popular game creator on his show.

Then he should have picked one of the ones with charisma.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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I thought the first two seasons of Chuck were genuinely special, but then it started to go down hill and soon it was into this bizarre place where the writers knew they were still on the air because of the dedicated fans and started pandering to them to a ludicrous degree. Everything turned into bad fanservice and the central relationship that gave the show it's heart began, as I recall, constantly retreading old ground it should have been beyond.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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Slamhound posted:

Chuck was bland. Like Psych but without the edge. Morgan was creepy and annoying. I think I made it through the first season.

Psych has all the edge of a dildo. Which is apt because it's just a lot of old cock flopping around.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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Aphrodite posted:

No, no, no. You can't setup your own follow-up like that. That's just sad.

OF course I can. I'm awesome.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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Josh Lyman posted:

Just finished the first season of Person of Interest. Those of you who were skeptical should give it an honest go. Yes, Caveziel is mediocre at best, but the plotting more than makes up for him.

A few questions about stuff I missed during my watch through:

-Who is the Zoey person that Finch enlists to help them? I remember her from an earlier episode, but I feel like I may have forgotten how she was originally introduced.
-How was Elias introduced, and why would NYPD think John works for Elias?
-HR is supposed to be the dirty cop structure, and John asked Fusco to infiltrate them, right? How we were introduced to them?
-Who's the lady tracking down The Machine? I seem to recall her from a flashback.

Looking forward to more of Amy Acker. I've crushed on her since Angel. :allears:

Did you just skip half the season or something?

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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PriorMarcus posted:

Yeah, its basically just 91 episodes of bonus material, I can't imagine why that would seem like a tedious slog with little reward.
It might be because you are prone to dreadful bouts of nonsense hyperbole.

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Even the good episodes are just remakes of early triumphs.

This is bollocks.

Season six and onwards aren't up to the standards of season five, that's true. They lack the momentum and reward of being the pay-off for a five year arc. However, they are not as bad as season one. So the best way to look at it, I would suggest, is that if you enjoyed season one despite it's many many flaws then by all means carry on into season six because at it's worst it will never drop to the level of racist truck, and rest assured that it does start to pick up in quality again as they regain their feet.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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EvilTobaccoExec posted:

Ive tried to get get into Supernatural a few times but can't make it more than a few episodes. Its just too gay... well "too CW" might describe it better.

Arrow is pretty gay and CW too, and I like it although I've only watched part of the first season. There's just something about Supernatural that doesn't work for me.

gently caress off.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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JediTalentAgent posted:

I think Deep Space Nine got consistently better with the seasons with exception of almost everything to do with the Pah Wraiths.


It started really really badly. Voyager levels of badly. Then it got massively better, until that loving hologram was introduced at which point it became insufferably self-indulgent. Culminating in the world's shallowest exploration of PTSD and an early showing of Moore's preference for theological onanism over interesting scifi storytelling.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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Mu Zeta posted:

I think Rapey Joe was complaining about the Vic Fontaine (gently caress Vic Fontaine) episodes and I agree completely. If I see that lovely lounge in the cold open I just skip the episode. The Pah Wraigth story also had some problems. Gul Dukat started out an interesting, complicated and charming antagonist and then turned into some dude that just wanted to watch the universe burn.

Yeah I was. He's a product of the hubris of writers who were clearly bored and probably should have moved on. And you're spot on about Dukat. He's a glorious bastard with actual depth to his character, right up until they, again through Hubris and a dearth of creativity, decide to make him start doing evil for the sake of evil because who cares about consistent writing when there's a nativity to put on.
It's the result of people who clearly don't want to (and probably shouldn't) be writing for the universe of their programme any more.

I'd be inclined to put the insufferable Odo/Kira thing in there as well, but I think "gently caress Fic Fontaine" covers it nicely.

zoux posted:

People bag on Irish Joe but your opinions are almost just as regularly awful. And probably not trolls.


While that was a truly masterful rebuttal of my points, you like Vic Fontaine. Therefore in as much as an argument based on opinion can be 'won', I win.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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I thought Asylum was an absolute disaster after the first season. They threw too many things into the pot and fumbled the core of the story, season one was handled with much more finesse. If the third season is closer to the third then that's great.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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Austrian mook posted:

Is there a comedian thread? Netflix has all these comedy features and I just loving love stand up.

Don't bother. Watch Stewart Lee, then never be able to stomach a lesser comedian again.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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I'm twenty minutes into the first episode of Mob City and my god this is dreck. Poorly choreographed action scenes, clichés left and right, and dialogue that is just dogshit.

The direction makes it feels like something made twenty years ago.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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And yeah, Tomorrow People is pretty much unwatchably dumb dross, at least for the first few episodes.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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Trast posted:

Even as a kid I enjoyed Sisko thinking the rest of the crew was nuts for wanting him to play along with a 50's stereotype because there was no way in hell he'd have been allowed in that casino unless it was to mop floors.

Hah, you've reminded me that while I was criticising DS9's writing I forgot what is probably their biggest hubristic gently caress you. In an act of sabotage verging on the offensive they created Section 31. Ostensibly so that Bashir and O'Brian would have a reason to go around being Bro-Team (because no one had the backbone to just make them gay) the writers decided to explicitly undermine the central tenets of a universe that they didn't create. Every high-minded ideal of the characters and the show itself goes out of the window because Moore et-al wanted to do a (remarkably poor quality) X-files rip off, in space.

"Prime Directive? Nah gently caress those aliens. Exploration and science? No way, that's for homos. Let's get some mysterious Men in Black, it'll be so cool."

And there are people who profess to love the ideals of the franchise who unquestioningly eat it up because, presumably, they've been too busy watching Star Trek to be exposed to any scifi that's actual scifi and not a fantasy show about men in pyjamas (and occasionally skirts).

Lovely Joe Stalin fucked around with this message at 09:34 on Dec 6, 2013

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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How are the people behind Smallville still employed?

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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Cactus posted:


The Culture is everything Star Trek wanted and failed to be. Iain M Banks is to Gene Roddenberry what Vince Gilligan is to Kurt loving Sutter.

I couldn't agree with this more. It's why I hate how dominant Star Trek (which is the dictionary definition of anodyne) is in the popular perception of science fiction. Science fiction on TV is choked by poisonous weeds like Star Trek and Eureka that only pay the barest superficial lip-service to what scifi actually is and can be, while using the label as a cover for laziness and pandering.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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Yeah it's all well and good to sneer at art, but you can't really judge until you try it.


Unless it's written by Brannon Braga.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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The Good Wife is, awful supporting characters in the home life aside, really solid. Around three seasons in it starts to have the occasional horrendous gimmick episode in the same vein as late (extremely self-indulgent) Boston Legal, but those aside it is still a good way to spend forty minutes.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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Manos del Sino posted:

Grace is the only weak link on The Good Wife, in my opinion, and she's a minor enough of a character that it hardly detracts from the overall greatness of the show.

In my opinion.

"Oh, I love you Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus <3."

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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ufarn posted:

Are the children on The Good Wife about to become as grating as I expect them to be?

Like a cheesegrater on your bellend.

thexerox123 posted:

Why... not just go to the relevant threads in Games?


Because Games is a cancerous shithole?

I'm not saying he's right, but I can fully understand the lack of faith in being able to engage in even the most superficially interesting debate about the story there.

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Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

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By the by, I've defended Dexter for years as being knowingly daft but entertaining. Having just watched the last season I feel the need to say that yeah, in retrospect it probably should have been given a Viking funereal years ago.
The entire season was an exercise in doing things for the sake of things, and suffocating the programme in an avalanche of botched attempts to provide closure and a 'fitting' end.

It should have been about Dexter methodically murdering all of his colleagues while wearing his son's head as a hat. Because at least it would have been memorable, and we would have had a pay off for all those years of loving terrible supporting performances. And I hate the first name Harrison.

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