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HollyW00d
Apr 8, 2004

When this baby hits 88mph, you're going to see some serious shit

Hey dudes, though it's not premiering until next year, I figured I start a thread for the new Cosmos show hosted by Neil deGrasse Tyson. It's being produced by Ann Druyan (wife of Carl Sagan) and Seth McFarlane.




Now slated for a Q2 release in 2014, episodes will premiere on Fox and also air on National Geographic Channel on the same night.

From wikipedia

quote:

The original 13-part Cosmos: A Personal Voyage first aired in 1980 on the Public Broadcasting System, and was hosted by Carl Sagan. The show has been considered highly significant since its broadcast; Dave Itzkoff of The New York Times described it as "a watershed moment for science-themed television programming". The show has been watched by at least 400 million people across 60 different countries, and until The Civil War documentary in 1990, remained the network's highest rated program

I was in attendance at New York Comic Con this year and Neil was there with Ann and they premiered some animation footage from the upcoming show. I don't think this has been posted anywhere yet, so enjoy.

(skip to 3:10 if you just want to see the animation)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VERmsazb40Y


[edit] And of course me being away from SA for a while, forgot to click off the appropriate banner. If a mod could change it I would be grateful. If not I understand

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Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

not all who wander are lost


If this was just Tyson stream-of-consciousnessing about the Universe for 13 episodes, I'd watch it. I've been jonesing for some good astronomy stuff ever since Brian Cox's "Wonders" series. Can't wait for this.

PowerBuilder3
Apr 21, 2010


I wonder if they are going to tone down the 'there is no god' parts, esp. since its on Fox?

Exploder
Nov 15, 2005

Just a humble motherfucker with a big ass dick

Oh man, this is going to be awesome, thanks for the heads up. I had always wished for a new "Cosmos" hosted by NDGT, and my wish is coming true.

PowerBuilder3 posted:

I wonder if they are going to tone down the 'there is no god' parts, esp. since its on Fox?

It's certainly interesting that FOX, of all networks, will be airing this. I would have expected PBS, or maybe even NBC or ABC.

Hughlander
May 11, 2005



Apparently Seth MacFarlane of all people arranged it. And since FOX is his bitch that's where it's airing.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

Ask me about my fixation with the word, "aesthetics" and inability to use a thesaurus.

Bee Tea Dubs, Division 2 is the best.


Less than two months until air date!

johntfs
Jun 7, 2013

by Cowcaster


Soiled Meat

I'm psyched for this because


Damo
Nov 8, 2002

The second-generation Pontiac Sunbird, introduced by the automaker for the 1982 model year as the J2000, was built to be an inexpensive and fuel-efficient front-wheel-drive commuter car capable of seating five.


Offensive Clock

I'm semi-excited for this, I guess. Although NDT wishes he were 1/10th the science explainer dude guy that Carl Sagan is.

NDT honestly kind of annoys me. This will not be anywhere near as good as the original.

I'm slowly getting more pessimistic as this post goes on. I'll stop now.

Mister E
Oct 2, 2006

by exmarx


I'm sorry we can't dig up Sagan's corpse and rig it with some wires to host the show but SOMEONE has to try and educate people on the universe in this day and age.

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.


Damo posted:

Although NDT wishes he were 1/10th the science explainer dude guy that Carl Sagan is.

I completely disagree with you but then again I actually understand the science they are trying to explain (and inevitably dumb down) so maybe that has something to do with it. Sagan may have been slightly better at the poetry (and that's all it is, poetry,) but NDT gets a little more to the heart of the issue.

A part of me dies inside, just a little, when any pop-sci show starts talking about virtual particles.

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

"Stuff that sits in the ceiling for rats and mice to urinate on."

Fallen Rib

It is not a remake of Cosmos, it is a sequel. It'll be all flashy and such to keep the modern day crowd interested. I'm sure we'll get a lot of facts and information but hopefully it is a hit with the general populous who don't get exposed to much science in their lives.

Anything to promote education is good, which is why I think it's quite amazing that Seth Macfarlane pushed to get this on Fox at a primetime slot.

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

Haters gonna hate


Damo posted:

I'm semi-excited for this, I guess. Although NDT wishes he were 1/10th the science explainer dude guy that Carl Sagan is.

NDT honestly kind of annoys me. This will not be anywhere near as good as the original.

I'm slowly getting more pessimistic as this post goes on. I'll stop now.

Out of curiosity, have you read his books? I think that his books would be much easier for a non-intellectual audience to read, without really sacrificing content. He also talks like an ordinary person you'd meet on the street. He doesn't have the grandiose language or poetic delivery or weird voice, but those are turn-offs with non-science people just as often as otherwise.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

drunkill posted:

Anything to promote education is good, which is why I think it's quite amazing that Seth Macfarlane pushed to get this on Fox at a primetime slot.

He needs this goodwill to balance out the trainwreck that will be Bordertown.

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

"Stuff that sits in the ceiling for rats and mice to urinate on."

Fallen Rib

Oh Neil

AwkwardKnob
Dec 29, 2004

A good pun is like a good steak: A rare medium well done

As a huge fan of the original series and Carl Sagan the human being, I am cautiously optimistic about this new series. I'll admit that I kind of expect a lot of the heart and soul to be lost in translation, replaced with a bunch of expensive graphics and flashy editing. I was always blown away by the original Cosmos' earnest and scholarly presentation, but I guess John Q Public doesn't have the kind of attention span or tolerance for that in 2014. I always found Cosmos charming because a lot of scenes would just feature Carl Sagan strolling through a field or sitting on a large rock, as if musing to a group of classical toga-wearing apprentices.

Scyron
Aug 27, 2005

I am sure a hacker knows all about rewarding and accomplished behavior. I mean, raping a chick with some mickeys is the same is getting laid right? Same result amirite guys? Nothing like work and not having to do it and get that sweet sweet payoff.


I think the fact that updated information might be present is all I need to know. I'm a sucker for science, and anything NDT. I also sort of feel his podcast, startalk, has fallen off a bit, so Maybe with this being done, we'll get better quality over there too.

Hakkesshu
Nov 3, 2009



How out of date is the info in the original series?

...of SCIENCE!
Apr 26, 2008

43 species of parrot?! Nipples for men?! SLUGS?! Are we not in the hands of a lunatic?! If I were creating the world I wouldn't mess about with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers, 8 o'clock, day one!


All the people complaining about unneccesary flashy graphics must not remember that roughly 1/3rd of the original Cosmos was cheesy special effects shots of a spaceship traveling through space with Sagan's narration and a Vangelis soundtrack in the background.

Scyron
Aug 27, 2005

I am sure a hacker knows all about rewarding and accomplished behavior. I mean, raping a chick with some mickeys is the same is getting laid right? Same result amirite guys? Nothing like work and not having to do it and get that sweet sweet payoff.


Hakkesshu posted:

How out of date is the info in the original series?

Well, it was made in the later 70's early 80's. Let's just say a fuckton.

The entirely of the mars rover mission, Cassini-Huygens, NGC 1987A, hubble deep fields, all of the exoplanets discovered, that were never confirmed but only hypothesized about in a whimsical way.

I love Cosmos the original, but common, do I have settle for SciCh's Planets, and to a lesser extend History's The Universe? Going further back, sure Sam Neill did an excellent narration of Hyperspace, but still, these can be considered out of date with how much new information has been discovered.

Through the wormhole and Hawkin's universe were awesome, but I think those still can be considered somewhat out of date. Not like what any of these shows are saying is any less factual, but I think with newer more advance studies it paints a better picture to those without some hyper-imagination to be able to understand it much more clearly.

I guess, I just don't understand why anyone would ever want less of this programing on TV.

...of SCIENCE! posted:

Vangelis soundtrack in the background.

I love the songs that plays during his speech about the constellations changing in the future, perhaps thousands of years from now.

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

not all who wander are lost


I'd say Brian Cox's "Wonders" series ("... of the Solar System", "... of the Universe" and "... of Life" to a lesser extent) is worth checking out, they're fairly recent and contain some new and relevant info and pretty good production values too if you want eye candy.

Communist Bear
Oct 7, 2008



Exploder posted:



It's certainly interesting that FOX, of all networks, will be airing this. I would have expected PBS, or maybe even NBC or ABC.

So...it'll be exactly like that clip out of family guy then?

The universe is hundreds of years old and made by goooooooooood.

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001



Right, Fox, the network that people used to joke about slowly turning into a hardcore porn network and went all the way to the Supreme Court over an indecency fine a few years ago, follows the exact same standards that the editorial standards of their national news uses.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine


WMain00 posted:

So...it'll be exactly like that clip out of family guy then?

The universe is hundreds of years old and made by goooooooooood.

News Corp owns a chunk of National Geographic. That's why it's airing on both channels.

AwkwardKnob
Dec 29, 2004

A good pun is like a good steak: A rare medium well done

...of SCIENCE! posted:

All the people complaining about unneccesary flashy graphics must not remember that roughly 1/3rd of the original Cosmos was cheesy special effects shots of a spaceship traveling through space with Sagan's narration and a Vangelis soundtrack in the background.

I'm not complaining at all, just musing. Part of the original's charm was the cheesy special effects, although at the time it was released, I suppose it was the latest poo poo too. Vangelis is awesome.

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001



Spaceship of the Imagination then and Spaceship of the Imagination now are both lame. My imagination is too vivid for their minimalist designs

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



I caught a split-second glimpse of a tardigrade in an ad for this tonight. That confirms that this will be totally awesome.

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

"Stuff that sits in the ceiling for rats and mice to urinate on."

Fallen Rib

I wonder if the series will open with (or contain somewhere) another short message from Ann Druyan like the re-broadcast Cosmos had:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN6Ktq22E8U

And for those that don't know, the series will be composed by Alan Silvestri, who has worked on a Carl Sagan project before, scoring Contact.

drunkill fucked around with this message at Feb 24, 2014 around 13:00

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


Reviews are starting to come in from preview showings of the first episode. They seem to be overwhelmingly positive.

http://www.newsday.com/entertainmen...tiful-1.7290395
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/04/s...osmos.html?_r=0
http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/03...osmos-neil.html
http://time.com/13005/review-of-cosmos-on-fox/
http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-wa...-to-life-on-fox
http://www.sfgate.com/tv/article/Co...ang-5293899.php

Farecoal
Oct 15, 2011

There he go


Nail Rat posted:

He doesn't have the grandiose language or poetic delivery or weird voice, but those are turn-offs with non-science people just as often as otherwise.

Yeah, that's why the original Cosmos was so popular

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001



NatGeo has been running Cosmos all day and roughly every 10-15 minutes there's something that makes me go "or so we thought" or "at the time" or even "not even close." I'm rather surprised how out of date this is, but at the same time...any time something is on TV that's space-related and the channel guide has a date earlier than 2009, I know its probably not worth my time.

Maduo
Sep 8, 2006

You see all the colors.
All of them.




I don't know if the Natgeo ones do this, but I remember the Cosmos episodes on Hulu all had updates at the end from a very old looking Carl Sagan explaining what science had figured out between then and whenever he taped the updates. Seeing a lot of the progress science has made between then and now is mostly why I'm excited for this.

Gary2863
Jul 19, 2000



Farecoal posted:

Yeah, that's why the original Cosmos was so popular

Maybe the Blu-ray release will replace Neil deGrasse Tyson with Oprah, or Sigourney Weaver, but only in the US.

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001



Maduo posted:

I don't know if the Natgeo ones do this, but I remember the Cosmos episodes on Hulu all had updates at the end from a very old looking Carl Sagan explaining what science had figured out between then and whenever he taped the updates. Seeing a lot of the progress science has made between then and now is mostly why I'm excited for this.

They seemed to be the original 80 ones not the later updated version.

Beeez
May 28, 2012


Even the updates would be incredibly out of date considering he died in '96. But I'm still loving watching this, I'd only seen bits and pieces before.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003



I finished the old series last year on Netflix so I'm looking forward to this beginning.

AwkwardKnob posted:

I always found Cosmos charming because a lot of scenes would just feature Carl Sagan strolling through a field or sitting on a large rock, as if musing to a group of classical toga-wearing apprentices.

It looks like there will be a lot of him walking around:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2395695...ref_=ttmd_md_sm

Clockwork Gadget
Oct 30, 2008

tick tock


I watched the preview screening of the first episode for this on Tuesday.

It's really good.

The first episode was by turns both a grandiose exploration of the universe and a sincerely heartfelt introspective of science and humanity. There were more than a couple of sequences that had me teary-eyed. NDT's narration and personal flair are fantastic. Everything about the production is beautiful -- from the CG shots, to the real footage, to the animation sequences that serve as replacements for Sagan's Cosmos's live-action historical bits.

It feels equal parts remake, homage, and sequel. It is a great, worthy continuation of Cosmos, and it's great to see that Fox and Nat Geo are really throwing their weight behind it to really sell it to the general populace. I'm really excited to see where it heads from here.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.

So if I want to watch this online are my only real options Hulu Plus?

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!


What, no mention of Obama doing a lead-in announcement of the show?

Meatwave
Feb 21, 2014

Truest Detective - Work Crew Division.


counterfeitsaint posted:

So if I want to watch this online are my only real options Hulu Plus?

That would be pretty funny because the premier is going to be on 10 US channels today and 220 channels internationally. I'm not kidding. It's going to be playing on Fox Sports 1, even.

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TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010


Apoplexy posted:

What, no mention of Obama doing a lead-in announcement of the show?

All the people who would refuse to watch something because Obama was introducing the series premiere, probably weren't going to watch a science show hosted by Neil deGrasse Tyson in the first place.

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