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Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges


AlternateAccount posted:

NDT's podcast is loving awful. Really content-starved, the "comic" co-hosts are completely useless, way too many ads for its runtime and it's very rarely focused on anything actually interesting. Holy poo poo, an entire episode interviewing Laurence Fishburne? A TWO PART interview with Miles O'Brien? No, gently caress no.

It's just this weird breathless masturbatory waste of time that very, very rarely manages to be about anything scientifically interesting. The whole thing constantly comes off as people just being on the fake-radio and very impressed with themselves for it.

Pick and choose a few eps here and there, maybe. Sometimes the Cosmic Queries eps are good filler for a commute, but generally it's all really disappointing.

This is my general impression, as a former weekly listener who studies physics. I can imagine there being much better science podcasts out there. They're not absolutely terrible, but they're not very good either.

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AwkwardKnob
Dec 29, 2004

A good pun is like a good steak: A rare medium well done

AlternateAccount posted:

I hope this hasn't already been posted but:

http://vimeo.com/56160700

Watch that immediately.

Pro loving click.

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless


If you don't mind the 1969 technical limitations Jacob Bronowski's The Ascent of Man is an awesome step by step account of how we went from cave painting to the modern age.

It's companion of sorts, Kenneth Clark's Civilisation gives a similar account but from an art/philosophy angle rather than scientific.

Paradox Personified
Mar 15, 2010

SoroScrew


Rexides posted:


Some people have suggested some other shows,

I got into this thread too late; Is there a list of shows? I'm dying for more and my local library is a small one lacking anything scientifically interesting written post-1970s, sadly.

tastychicken
Jul 17, 2007
Title text goes here

Paradox Personified posted:

I got into this thread too late; Is there a list of shows? I'm dying for more and my local library is a small one lacking anything scientifically interesting written post-1970s, sadly.

Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but... http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Science_(Bookshelf)

Post is not pre.

tastychicken fucked around with this message at Jun 12, 2014 around 06:44

Analytic Engine
May 18, 2009

not the analytical engine


If you liked the historical figure focus of Cosmos, check out James Burke's "Connections" (series 1) and "The Day the Universe Changed"

Actually, just watch them anyway, they're the best examples of this kind of show. They even had the same production crew as Cosmos 1.

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless


Actually while I like Connections I always found it a bit disconnected.

He makes some pretty flimsy and circumstantial links sometimes and jumps all over the place, The Ascent of Man gives a much better picture of how worldviews changed over time because it follows a sequential progression.

Season 2 is an even bigger mess because it's 20 minute episodes.

The Day the Universe Changed is great though.

MeLKoR fucked around with this message at Jun 12, 2014 around 10:02

MrSlam
Apr 25, 2014

And there you sat, eating hamburgers while the world cried.

Somewhere in the corner of that room is a soft-science professor who's seething while drinking beer from his tiny red cup.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Slippery Tilde

AlternateAccount posted:

I hope this hasn't already been posted but:

http://vimeo.com/56160700

Watch that immediately.

I'm the guy/girl who is too shy to come dance with NdGT.

Paradox Personified
Mar 15, 2010

SoroScrew


Analytic Engine posted:

If you liked the historical figure focus of Cosmos, check out James Burke's "Connections" (series 1) and "The Day the Universe Changed"

Actually, just watch them anyway, they're the best examples of this kind of show. They even had the same production crew as Cosmos 1.
Yes perfect! Muchly appreciated.

MeLKoR posted:

The Ascent of Man gives a much better picture of how worldviews changed over time because it follows a sequential progression.

Season 2 is an even bigger mess because it's 20 minute episodes.

The Day the Universe Changed is great though.

Thaaaaank you!

Sekkira
Apr 11, 2008

I Don't Get It,
I Don't Get It,



And that's what Cosmos is all about dudes. It's not meant to be the be all end all for documentaries or information about a wide variety of sciences. It's meant for you to watch and go "Hey, that was cool, I especially liked x episode and want to know more".

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003

I
ANALYZE
CARTOONS


Soiled Meat

Sekkira posted:

And that's what Cosmos is all about dudes. It's not meant to be the be all end all for documentaries or information about a wide variety of sciences. It's meant for you to watch and go "Hey, that was cool, I especially liked x episode and want to know more".

And after you devote your life to science you discover that a lot of the stuff in Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey was unsubstantiated what-if daydream theories and very badly mischaracterized history, and then you get all bitter about it and confront Neil DeGrasse Tyson about it in a bar in Gatlinburg in mid July and you start fighting him and then you ask him about those bad episodes and why he made them and he tells you that it was to spark your interest in science even if the episodes weren't totally based in hard science or even honest history but that it was worth it because it got you to pursue a career in science and then you walk away with a different point of view

And you think to yourself if you ever get a science TV show of your own and you have the chance to put in some BS to get kids interested in science...

AwkwardKnob
Dec 29, 2004

A good pun is like a good steak: A rare medium well done

"unsubstantiated what-if daydream theories and very badly mischaracterized history"

What?

Keyser_Soze
May 5, 2009



College Slice

We need more "Science" shows created by Fox News and the Oil Industry as opposed to the liberal socialist hippie cartoon maker Seth MacFarlane and notorious pot smoker Carl Sagan's widow? I kid.

Taffer
Oct 15, 2010



AwkwardKnob posted:

"unsubstantiated what-if daydream theories and very badly mischaracterized history"

What?

Yeah I know there were a couple spots that went into "what if" territory bit they were pretty far between and usually had a disclaimer. That statement is some pretty crazy hyperbole.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.

AwkwardKnob posted:

"unsubstantiated what-if daydream theories and very badly mischaracterized history"

What?

You see, they did not delve enough into the kind of science behind the bombs that create the rich, deep world we see depicted in Adventure Time.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003

I
ANALYZE
CARTOONS


Soiled Meat

Yeah, the bad parts were few and far between. But come on guys, I'm blowing them out of proportion to make a Johnny Cash joke

Steve Yun fucked around with this message at Jun 13, 2014 around 22:01

McGann
May 18, 2003

Get up you son of a bitch! 'Cause Mickey loves you!



Steve Yun posted:


And you think to yourself if you ever get a science TV show of your own and you have the chance to put in some BS to get kids interested in science...
I'm gonna tell them the TRUTH, no matter how boring! Any drat thing but that bullshit on Cosmos!

(I wanted SOMEONE to appreciate the effort you put into that)

In related news, got my copy of Cosmos on BluRay and am about to catch up on the few I missed. Excited!

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001

The four most over-rated things in life are champagne, lobster, anal sex and picnics. Oh, and that stupid children's book 'The Little Prince,' ugh.


Yams Fan

Anybody remember which episode had ngt cutting up an ice fish? The one with transparent blood I guess? I've got a daughter that's obsessed with seeing that again and I've skipped though each dvd twice now trying to find it.

I don't even remember it from the show myself.

PureRok
Mar 27, 2010

Good as new.


I don't remember that, either. You sure it was from Cosmos? I don't really remember any fish, really.

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001



PureRok posted:

I don't remember that, either. You sure it was from Cosmos? I don't really remember any fish, really.

I remember Fish Book

Things I learned from Cosmos II:

- Fish Book based payment system
- MY EYES! MY EYES!

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003



Remulak posted:

Anybody remember which episode had ngt cutting up an ice fish? The one with transparent blood I guess? I've got a daughter that's obsessed with seeing that again and I've skipped though each dvd twice now trying to find it.

I don't even remember it from the show myself.

Was that the second episode? I thought he might've been doing that when talking about brown/black/polar bears.

Gandalf21
May 17, 2012



Does anyone else wish that they'd release the original Cosmos on blu-ray alongside the new one?

I just want more Carl Sagan

BreakAtmo
May 16, 2009



Gandalf21 posted:

Does anyone else wish that they'd release the original Cosmos on blu-ray alongside the new one?

I just want more Carl Sagan

Do we know what the production of the original involved, in terms of how it was filmed and how the effects were made? If they shot it on film and still have the negatives then it could get a new HD transfer.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011


Sash! posted:

I remember Fish Book

Things I learned from Cosmos II:

- Fish Book based payment system
- AAAAAHHHHHHH MY EYES! MY EYES!

- Hells bells
- Put up, or shut up

AwkwardKnob
Dec 29, 2004

A good pun is like a good steak: A rare medium well done

BreakAtmo posted:

Do we know what the production of the original involved, in terms of how it was filmed and how the effects were made? If they shot it on film and still have the negatives then it could get a new HD transfer.

The original Cosmos could definitely use a fresh coat of paint and re-release, I haven't heard about anything like that happening though. I'm hoping the eventual box set or blu rays of the new series have some extra stuff in them though!

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

It's my new shirt



A re-release of the original with new graphics and in hd would be pretty cool. toss the original episodes on the dvd as well and im in.

pahuyuth
Nov 10, 2002

I can destroy you


Cosmos is now on US and Canadian Netflix! So is NDT's series The Inexplicable Universe

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adhuin
Sep 15, 2008

Rugged and authoritative looking


pahuyuth posted:

Cosmos is now on US and Canadian Netflix! So is NDT's series The Inexplicable Universe

The Inexplicable Universe has been on Netflix since spring. I Highly recommend it to everyone who liked The nü-Cosmos.

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