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Not that I even watch it but I just watched a slideshow of cancelled shows that included Once Upon a Time. Guessing it is just badly researched since zap2it lists it as renewed?
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Badly researched, or they meant Once Upon A Time In Wonderland.
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SHUPS 4 DETH posted:We're still waiting on the following shows: 10 down, 4 to go. Presumably Cancelled Dracula Could go either way Parenthood, Last Man Standing ...huh? Family Guy The rumor mill over at Deadline says the cast of Parenthood is holding out for more screentime than NBC is willing to pay for. No word (factual or rumored) about LMS, and FG remains a mystery (though Bubble Watch has decided its production schedule implies a renewal through next year). Between Dracula's star going back to rehab immediately after wrapping and the horrid ratings I can't imagine there is even an outside chance of renewal, but nothing's official yet. SHVPS4DETH fucked around with this message at 19:38 on May 10, 2014 |
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May 10, 2014 19:29
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So the Mentalist survived after all.
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Looks like they are asking the Parenthood cast to take pay cuts for a final short season. That doesn't sound great for its renewal chances does it?
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ToastyPotato posted:So the Mentalist survived after all. I wasn't going to be too bothered losing it now that the Red John plot is finally over but it is a solid procedural and I am glad that it gets another season.
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smg77 posted:Looks like they are asking the Parenthood cast to take pay cuts for a final short season. That doesn't sound great for its renewal chances does it? That's the opposite, that's a really good sign for its renewal.
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Occupation posted:That's the opposite, that's a really good sign for its renewal. Cool...this season's finale could easily have served as a series finale but a short season to finish wrapping everything up would be great.
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Shame about the Crazy Ones, it was pretty solid overall.
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Just saying with the cancellation of Almost Human (which I intended to watch the first season of before the second season, so dodged that disappointment bullet) I can officially say Karl Urban is cursed. Consistently the most likable part of doomed movies, be it that they're really really C-list bad (Doom, Priest, etc.) or terribly marketed (Dredd), he can now chalk up "doomed TV show" to that list. He really needs a freaking break other than Bones. I Feast On Dogshit posted:I can see Community getting some sort of "movie" on Netflix, but I very much doubt they'll take up a full season. That is unless all the casts other commitments for next season goes tits up, then I could see them making a season. But that would probably mean it'd be late 2015 before anything aired. Netflix, no. Hulu? Yes. Hulu desperately wants a big IP to push like Netflix got Arrested Development, and already has dealings with them, exclusive rights to the current series, I believe? So there is a chance if anyone picks it up as a series, it will be them. SHUPS 4 DETH posted:...huh? I have a feeling there's tension there since American Dad is moving to TBS (I think it was TBS? Please correct me if I have the wrong network) for two seasons which were already in the can pretty much. While I can understand them letting it go if it's not getting the ratings, to take a show that's already done and not air it sometime - or even sell it as a DVD under their label - says "corporate drama" behind the scenes to me, which probably extends to all their shows. ED: For anyone not familiar with the show, yeah, the production literally massively outstripped the ability to air the shows resulting in two nearly complete full seasons, at least, already done. It could be more now if the production team was still making more, that I'm not sure of. They've literally edited episodes (often very blatantly) to say things like 2014 over what was clearly 2011 or 2012 originally. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 20:20 on May 10, 2014 |
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SHUPS 4 DETH posted:Presumably Cancelled Parenthood's the only real quandary remaining. Blazing Ownager posted:I have a feeling there's tension there since American Dad is moving to TBS (I think it was TBS? Please correct me if I have the wrong network) for two seasons which were already in the can pretty much. While I can understand them letting it go if it's not getting the ratings, to take a show that's already done and not air it sometime - or even sell it as a DVD under their label - says "corporate drama" behind the scenes to me, which probably extends to all their shows. This covers it for FG. With the (relative) failure of The Cleveland Show, AD's departure to TBS, and the spectacular flameout that was Dads, Seth McFarlane and Fox TV may be headed towards a conscious uncoupling. If his upcoming movie's a success to the same degree that Ted was then I'm sure he'd love to have a more relaxed schedule after grinding out show after show for 15 years.
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Blazing Ownager posted:Just saying with the cancellation of Almost Human (which I intended to watch the first season of before the second season, so dodged that disappointment bullet) I can officially say Karl Urban is cursed. Consistently the most likable part of doomed movies, be it that they're really really C-list bad (Doom, Priest, etc.) or terribly marketed (Dredd), he can now chalk up "doomed TV show" to that list. Well I mean he was in Lord of the Rings and Star Trek. Cursed seems too strong a word.
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Blazing Ownager posted:Just saying with the cancellation of Almost Human (which I intended to watch the first season of before the second season, so dodged that disappointment bullet) I can officially say Karl Urban is cursed. Consistently the most likable part of doomed movies, be it that they're really really C-list bad (Doom, Priest, etc.) or terribly marketed (Dredd), he can now chalk up "doomed TV show" to that list. You say that, but I say Micheal Ealy is cursed. Both buddy cop shows(AH and Common Law) and both times shot down. Not that Common Law was good or anything, but still, he hasn't 'made it' in tv since Sleeper.
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It looks like Parenthood's getting a renewal after all. Nothing's official yet but let me just say as a fan: Phew.
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Looks like the ax finally dropped on Intelligence. Godspeed Josh Holloway.
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Neither of the new CBS dramas survived this year. It's probably why they're going to back to the well with the spin-offs for NCIS and even CSI.
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BrandonGK posted:Neither of the new CBS dramas survived this year. It's probably why they're going to back to the well with the spin-offs for NCIS and even CSI. It's pretty sad when I'm most excited about the loving CW fall schedule.
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ToastyPotato posted:So the Mentalist survived after all. This is really surprising, beause the black boss guy just suddenly started acting he was high; I thought he knew the show was done, but maybe he's decided the show is dumb and is doing whatever.
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Blazing Ownager posted:I have a feeling there's tension there since American Dad is moving to TBS (I think it was TBS? Please correct me if I have the wrong network) for two seasons which were already in the can pretty much. While I can understand them letting it go if it's not getting the ratings, to take a show that's already done and not air it sometime - or even sell it as a DVD under their label - says "corporate drama" behind the scenes to me, which probably extends to all their shows. As for Family Guy, the show already has episodes for 2014-2015 thanks to a previous production order so any deals for additional episodes probably do not need to be made until Q4. Last I heard the voice cast had already signed on for a minimum of two additional seasons and Seth's deal is probably fairly complicated to work out at this point.
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Parenthood is renewed, and Parks & Rec's final season is getting the Community treatment as it is ordered but not scheduled. Since we're probably not getting an official statement regarding Family Guy, that's it for this season. Stay tuned for the Summer lows that don't really matter.
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Occupation posted:shups join Deadpool's random reviews thread you giant chicken the joke is that the guy behind Pierce is Bob Greenblatt just in case you were wondering
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SHUPS 4 DETH posted:the joke is that the guy behind Pierce is Bob Greenblatt just in case you were wondering Oh okay i get it, that was a good joke
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http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...-d-flat/263937/ OH GOD Glee has caused Fox to literally hit sub-CW numbers, and Riot is DOA. pre:CW The Originals - Season Finale 0.9/3 2.06 FOX Glee - Season Finale 0.6/2 1.92 CW Supernatural 0.9/3 2.14 FOX Riot - Series Premiere 0.5/1 1.32
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Postal Parcel posted:http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...-d-flat/263937/ Easily one of the funniest things I've ever seen
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Did the country just fall out of love with Glee? I know that there seems to be a huge churn of actors from that show appearing in other shows, but I have no idea if they were ever leads or just guest stars.
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devoir posted:Did the country just fall out of love with Glee? I know that there seems to be a huge churn of actors from that show appearing in other shows, but I have no idea if they were ever leads or just guest stars. The quality just plummeted as they became so desperate for plots that it started getting completely nonsensical. The musical numbers got worse in general as well.
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pentyne posted:The quality just plummeted as they became so desperate for plots that it started getting completely nonsensical. The musical numbers got worse in general as well. Ah. That makes sense, I just never paid any attention to it other than hearing about it tangentially. The last I heard it was breaking records every which way and the man behind it was apparently the most powerful man on television.
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devoir posted:Did the country just fall out of love with Glee? I know that there seems to be a huge churn of actors from that show appearing in other shows, but I have no idea if they were ever leads or just guest stars. It peaked a few years ago but I heard after the one guy died it never really recovered.
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It's been in a steady decline since midway through the 2nd season. It's just kind of a textbook case in what happens when a show continually alienates the gently caress out of its core audience. (There's obviously no way to know whether or not they'd hit these particular lows if Monteith hadn't kicked the bucket last summer, but they were already hovering at 1.5s last year when he was still alive -- though in rehab -- and Fox still renewed it for two more seasons. It's been just barely hanging on for a while now.)
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devoir posted:Did the country just fall out of love with Glee? I know that there seems to be a huge churn of actors from that show appearing in other shows, but I have no idea if they were ever leads or just guest stars. My opinion (as a former watcher) once the first group graduated it sort of ended interest in the show for me. The New York plots were uninteresting and the replacement kids were either copy-cats of other characters or just completely bland.
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I thought it was more due to Ryan Murphy is able to only make one good season of the show then they just get stupider and stupider. See also Nip/Tuck.
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All previous (and entirely valid) arguments aside, Glee's other current problem now is that Cory Monteith's death completely and utterly derailed Ryan Murphy's vision of where the show was going. Of course, prior to that his vision of the show was kind of terrible largely because he didn't get the spinoff where the grown-up kids go to NYC and remake Fame. So instead the NYC stuff was shoehorned parallel to the high school stuff which made both sides kind of terrible. As with so many shows in high school, it made the mistake of following the characters instead of the premise. The premise of a show about glee club losers with a strong satirical/absurdist bent to it was solid, which was apparently obvious to many people not including its creators. And yeah, lovely musical numbers.
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It was also a premise with a finite 'end' -- eventually you have to let those losers and underdogs win, or you've completely undermined the central conceit of chasing your dreams and being true to yourself and etc. etc. And once they've won, that's kind of...it. Lower the curtains, they're set free into the 'real world' to continue chasing those dreams. The series should have realistically ended after that third season when half the cast graduated, with maybe a 2-hour 'movie event' reunion-type thing in closing, set several years in the future. The idea of 'this glee club is full o' scrubs, let's treat them like garbage' kind of loses its punch when said club wins Nationals and there's a scene of the entire school showering them with adoration, to where bringing in a new crop of underclassmen to refill those ranks feels kind of empty. And maybe that's ultimately where the show failed, in making Sectionals/Regionals/Nationals such a Big Deal that once the club has won each of them at least once, apathy kind of sets in. We've already watched a bunch of kids we grew to care about over three seasons triumph and beat their most hated competition on the biggest possible stage; why should we care about this 'new' glee club that's at least 50% either brand new or woefully underdeveloped and whether or not they can repeat that triumph?
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xeria posted:And maybe that's ultimately where the show failed, in making Sectionals/Regionals/Nationals such a Big Deal that once the club has won each of them at least once, apathy kind of sets in. We've already watched a bunch of kids we grew to care about over three seasons triumph and beat their most hated competition on the biggest possible stage; why should we care about this 'new' glee club that's at least 50% either brand new or woefully underdeveloped and whether or not they can repeat that triumph? Friday Night Lights impressively managed to thread this needle despite winning the state championship in the first season. Largely by cycling the roster and changing up the nature of the story (and oh my there were some clunker storylines in season two). They can win nationals and still have conflict because no one gives a poo poo about national glee club, because Sue Sylvester is still trying to shut them down, because the real star power all graduated and left, etc. But once again, you have to follow the premise and not the characters. By and large the graduates in Friday Night Lights were shuffled off-screen (except for The Greatest Texan, Taylor Kitsch) because it was both appropriate to the premise and kept things fresh. I would have loved to watch the version of Glee where Finn comes back to replace Schuester (and clearly this is where things were going), but in general I'm a sucker for passing-of-the-torch storylines. Ask me about my season eight West Wing fanfic anytime, I can even edit out the explicit sex scenes between Josh, Donna, Ted, and Larry.
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I'd say one of the key differences between Glee and FNL is that the Taylors were the heart and soul of their show (making it that much easier to stick to them instead of the teenage cast), while most of the viewing audience was pretty well apathetic toward, if not grossed out by, Will Schuester by midway through the 2nd season. In order to follow the premise and not the characters, he'd have to be the backbone and I just can't imagine any way for that to be successful in the long-run. And obviously, Finn was being groomed to replace him, but logically* that couldn't have actually happened in full until Finn had, you know, gone to college. *(Glee has never operated on any level that could be remotely construed as 'logical'.)
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Crusty Nutsack posted:Legit on FXX was canceled Legit is (was) a criminally underrated show, and it didn't deserve to be tossed into the cesspool that is FXX -- where it immediately lost half its viewers.
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