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Gruknor
Feb 23, 2011

Fart Sniffer Connoisseur

LiquidFriend posted:

I'd say at least 5, so that you aren't hosed on a big lamps floor.

MNK and WAR are really good for NNI, as you can mow down a large group of mobs with Retaliation/Counterstance and AoE Weaponskills. It can be done without speed hacks, but your probability goes up a lot when using it.

Now granted, this is what you need to do if you want a high chance of making it to floor 100. If you're willing to settle with a floor 80 finish, your setup is a lot more forgiving.

I'd probably run with this:
WAR
MNK
SCH
BRD
Another SCH/WHM/RDM

Last slot can be filled with whatever DD you want, or you can try it with just 5.

Honestly though, I think it'd be fine to settle with just going to floor 80 and having a 100% success rate. There are only 2 pieces that I'd consider must haves (Thaumas coat, Nares pants), one really good piece (phorcys body) and maybe phorcys hands. The rest of the stuff got replaced with better gear.

E: Looks like I really underestimated how easy this event got! Just bring a healer and 5 ilvl DDs and you'll be fine!

The thaumas pieces with ranged attk are decent for anyone who wants to use a ranged weapon. We went 2/3 with 5 melee and 1 mage.

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LiquidFriend
Apr 5, 2005

Gruknor posted:

The thaumas pieces with ranged attk are decent for anyone who wants to use a ranged weapon. We went 2/3 with 5 melee and 1 mage.

There are better pieces out there.

Also because the weather is going to be poo poo this weekend, looks like I'll be available Saturday after all.

Systematic System
Jun 17, 2012
WAR/WAR/SCH(or any other healer, or hell a BRD could probably do it too), with copious usage of flee boots/speed hacks, and fell cleaving entire floors at a time should be fine as long as you don't get totally boned by floor jumps (note: getting totally boned by floor jumps happens a lot). The last time I did NNI seriously was pre-ilvl gear, and with 6, speed hacking all over the place, we had about a 90% win rate. Sometimes you just get ten 3 floor jumps in a row, and you can't do anything about that.

Cool Blue Reason
Jan 7, 2010

by Lowtax
I need to do LB3 sometime if anyone's up to help.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

Next update on the 26th is when we get trust: shantoto and trust: volker among others.

Gruknor
Feb 23, 2011

Fart Sniffer Connoisseur

Paladine_PSoT posted:

Is 9pm PST on a saturday still "in the evening"?

9pm PST would be 12am EST, so it is late evening for me but still evening. It being Saturday, I can do 3 or 4 runs.

LiquidFriend
Apr 5, 2005

Gruknor posted:

9pm PST would be 12am EST, so it is late evening for me but still evening. It being Saturday, I can do 3 or 4 runs.

On that note, make sure to store a tag if you want to do Nyzul Isle thing.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

Gruknor posted:

9pm PST would be 12am EST, so it is late evening for me but still evening. It being Saturday, I can do 3 or 4 runs.

Grunknor and LiquidFriend (in game names the same?). Anyone else for starting a Nyzul Isle climb Saturday at 9pm pst?

frodnonnag
Aug 13, 2007

Paladine_PSoT posted:

Grunknor and LiquidFriend (in game names the same?). Anyone else for starting a Nyzul Isle climb Saturday at 9pm pst?

if it's regular nyzul, i could go. and liquid is Jamie.

Gruknor
Feb 23, 2011

Fart Sniffer Connoisseur

Paladine_PSoT posted:

Grunknor and LiquidFriend (in game names the same?). Anyone else for starting a Nyzul Isle climb Saturday at 9pm pst?

My in game name is Jewbacca

LiquidFriend
Apr 5, 2005

Question for PLD goons.

Is CdC or Requiescat a better WS? Trying to decide if I should start gathering WoE stuff and doing trials or just merit more.

keep it down up there!
Jun 22, 2006

How's it goin' eh?

CDC wins on lower tier stuff, but Req wins on end game. From what I've read anyways, haven't tested myself yet.

My in game name is Tanag for anyone unaware.

Vaashila
Feb 4, 2011

I have a strange feeling about those eyes...
So I figured I might get back into this while it's on sale, but before I do I have a question. Is making an account still the absolute biggest pain in the rear end, or have they done something about that?

LiquidFriend
Apr 5, 2005

Vaashila posted:

So I figured I might get back into this while it's on sale, but before I do I have a question. Is making an account still the absolute biggest pain in the rear end, or have they done something about that?
Accounts are made through the Square-Enix account management webpage and yeah it still sucks.

Sometime possibly this weekend, I plan to run a lot of Kindergarten Cap (30 Kindred Crest bc) to try and get WoE stuff. If you don't mind me taking pouches, I'll solo your orb in a few minutes tops and the rest of the drops are all yours! This is a great way to complete AF3 as you're almost guaranteed to get a mog kupon that you can trade for 8/10 af3 seals you want and the boss will drop a random assortment of AF3+2 items. (I'm also willing to do other BC's)

LiquidFriend fucked around with this message at 08:42 on Dec 25, 2013

matt_millar
Sep 26, 2002
Ive been thinking about coming back a d I was wondering if yhe gik sellers still ran fell cleave parties out in abyssea for money, and if so hiw do you get into gehm since when last left the shouters in jeuno had been banned. I mostly want to level up so I can solo through old content that I never completed before and maybe get some a relic weapon and armor or something.

Systematic System
Jun 17, 2012
On my server, you see very few people doing fell cleaves at all (presumably for fear of being banned). I'd suggest finding a friend, or trying to leech from a worm (or the like) abyssea party. They're in vogue right now, sort of, because you need merits to do the new arch angel fights.

LiquidFriend
Apr 5, 2005

You're fine to do fell cleaves and charge people to leech as long as you aren't an RMT. :shobon:

Problem is people don't really seem interested in buying leech spots any longer, which is why they don't happen.

Herewaard
Jun 20, 2003

Lipstick Apathy
Leveling is pretty quick now thanks to the Trust NPCS and Records of Eminence and Grounds of Valor. I did RDM 1-49 in about 5 hours solo and only kind of paying attention.

Gruknor
Feb 23, 2011

Fart Sniffer Connoisseur

Majumbo posted:

Leveling is pretty quick now thanks to the Trust NPCS and Records of Eminence and Grounds of Valor. I did RDM 1-49 in about 5 hours solo and only kind of paying attention.

I was also able to get 4 merits doing Records of Eminence quests, while I maxed out evasion and dagger on my thf. I was just killing the mandies outside Western Adoulin, in Ceizak Battleground. Maybe if you add in lair/colonization reives plus the coalition quest to the mix, you can get 20 merits easily. The 20 merit toll per person per AA/DM 2.0 fights is a bit annoying.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

LiquidFriend posted:

Accounts are made through the Square-Enix account management webpage and yeah it still sucks.

Sometime possibly this weekend, I plan to run a lot of Kindergarten Cap (30 Kindred Crest bc) to try and get WoE stuff. If you don't mind me taking pouches, I'll solo your orb in a few minutes tops and the rest of the drops are all yours! This is a great way to complete AF3 as you're almost guaranteed to get a mog kupon that you can trade for 8/10 af3 seals you want and the boss will drop a random assortment of AF3+2 items. (I'm also willing to do other BC's)

Any reason to do the af3+2 now with the new relic available?

Systematic System
Jun 17, 2012
Some of the AF3+2 is still best in slot for certain things (e.g. WHM legs (healing all the time) and body (single target healing), or all of BRD's for various songs, etc.).

Systematic System fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Dec 26, 2013

Eight-Six
Oct 26, 2007

There's word that there's going to be revamps for AF3 like how AF1 got the i119 treatment, so odds are that AF3+2 will require the least amount of new materials.

Gruknor
Feb 23, 2011

Fart Sniffer Connoisseur

Paladine_PSoT posted:

Any reason to do the af3+2 now with the new relic available?

AF3+2 is still worthwhile. They are used more as gear to spellcast swap in and out for certain abilities or certain situations. Whm and brd are the only exceptions I can think of. Cor can get away with just 5/5 af3+2, but they will not be getting decent dps on their pewpews.

LiquidFriend
Apr 5, 2005

Finally finished the relic I always wanted since they originally added it into the game.

Stanley Pain
Jun 16, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
How the heck is this game not dead yet?

Kazy
Oct 23, 2006

0x38: FLOPPY_INTERNAL_ERROR

Are the servers still bone-dry? Last I logged on there weren't even 600 people on at NA prime.

Today is my 10-year anniversary of finally finishing POL updates and logging on for the first time. I got this game in Christmas of 2003, and I had dial-up, so the update literally took two days :v:

Systematic System
Jun 17, 2012
I'd say that 90% of the people playing this game right now are the old guard, who have been around forever, and will continue to play till the game is dead regardless of how badly they gently caress up the game (although the current trend for the game isn't that bad I think).

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

Don't forget to bank an assault ID for tomorrow night's Nyzul Isle run. Starting on floor 15, 9pm PST.

frodnonnag
Aug 13, 2007

Stanley Pain posted:

How the heck is this game not dead yet?

C'mon man, it's even in the thread title. At this point it's pure stockholm syndrome. We love this game because it hurts us, it hurts us so good.

Systematic System
Jun 17, 2012
I gotta say right now isn't even the worst place the game has been in: sure SE totally bungled the introduction of ilvl gear by releasing delve too earlier (and still not giving us new delve content months later) (although they are finally fleshing out ilvl gear, so now you have some alternatives, e.g. delve gear, or skirmish, or reforged AF), but its still better than the hellscape that was post-WoTG, pre-abyssea. Enjoy your WoE and MMM as your sole new content while we trickle out a few missions every few months.

Systematic System fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Dec 28, 2013

ToxicToast
Dec 7, 2006
Thanks, I'm flattered.
I really feel like logging in again after 8 years but wonder how easily I can reactive my old account. Since the last time I played was 2005/2006 I don't really remember much. I remember the server I was on, character name, but that is about it. I did not pay for the account back then, my Mom did. Would it be enough to just know the server, character name, and name of the person who paid?

By the sound of it, it does not even seem like having my cat girl would matter much. But I remember at the time being so proud being level 75 and having my Enhancing sword from the dragon named Bane? I think. I really just feel like running through the old zones and maybe leveling up some.

This game was horrible in so many ways but I still remember the good times I had with friends. Also, the music was great! For whatever reason every holiday when I go back home I always think of this game and the holiday version of the Jueno theme. I played this game way to much my last two years of high school and remember being one of the first 75s NA red mages on the server. I quit I think after Chains of Promitha came out because I think WoW just came out around then and so many people went over to that game. I never did get into WoW and stopped playing all together once I started college. I still have not played another MMO since this one.

Systematic System
Jun 17, 2012
If you remember the account information (user name/password), or you know the email that is attached to the account to reset the password, it shouldn't take too long to get the account back. If you need to contact SE about it... it'll take a while in general (a week or two most likely). Also note you need to contact them to change any personal information on the account (e.g. changing the account's name from your mom's to yours).

Stanley Pain
Jun 16, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

frodnonnag posted:

C'mon man, it's even in the thread title. At this point it's pure stockholm syndrome. We love this game because it hurts us, it hurts us so good.

I know man, I know. They should offer a free sub to XI if you're actively subbed to XIV :unsmith:

ToxicToast
Dec 7, 2006
Thanks, I'm flattered.
Dumb question but I have not bought a MMO on steam before. Are there any problems buying this one on steam? How does that then work with playonline? Or is it recommended to buy this anywhere else? Looks like the only way to buy it now is digitally. Would it be better to just buy the digital version on amazon?

keep it down up there!
Jun 22, 2006

How's it goin' eh?

Amazon or Steam are both fine. I have the steam version and have had no issues. You will still use PlayOnline to play the game, and it doesn't have the Steam overlays.

Just grab it on whichever is cheaper.

ToxicToast
Dec 7, 2006
Thanks, I'm flattered.
I am totally bummed out. Called tech support and learned that my account was deleted because it had been inactive for so long. I had not played since 2005. I am still thinking about starting all over again but I mostly wanted to just spend time revisiting old zones and goofing off. How long does it take to get to ride the airship and go to Kazham, get to Jueno, things like that now? Could I do it all in a afternoon or two?

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

ToxicToast posted:

I am totally bummed out. Called tech support and learned that my account was deleted because it had been inactive for so long. I had not played since 2005. I am still thinking about starting all over again but I mostly wanted to just spend time revisiting old zones and goofing off. How long does it take to get to ride the airship and go to Kazham, get to Jueno, things like that now? Could I do it all in a afternoon or two?

You can unlock most areas by running to them once and touching a home crystal. You can now warp to any home point you've previously visited by touching any other home point crystal. It's not outside of reason to get someone to escort you around a few places so you can teleport within a few hours.

Khazam requires item collection so it may be marginally more difficult, but still doable.

ToxicToast
Dec 7, 2006
Thanks, I'm flattered.
I guess I will go ahead and ask here and see if anyone else has had a similar experience. Today I called up support to try to activate my old account. I did not know my playonline account info but I still had the original instruction booklet with the playonline access code.

After being on the phone with them for a while they told me my Play Online Account had been deleted on their side so there was no way to access any information at all. I ended up buying the game again today and setting up a Square Enix account then put in a request to get my character brought back.

Has anyone had any experience with getting an account back or character at least with a situation like this? I have looked online and have not seen this happen to anyone else.

GreaseMonkey
Jun 19, 2001
Hey I'm in on Quetzlcoatl as Greasemonkey. Anybody on that can link me in with the community?

Edit: I'm in Bastok

GreaseMonkey fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Dec 31, 2013

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Selim Sivad
Sep 2, 2008

by Ralp
Came back the other night because... Well, because... Actually, I have no idea why, but I'm back regardless. Any goons other than frodnon, jadey or gorral I can get a pearl from? Haven't seen any of them for the last few nights.

In game name: Odjenar

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