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Caseman
Mar 21, 2006

OONTZ stomp OONTZ stomp OONTZ stomp OONTZ stomp

Madkal posted:

Weird. I am checking now and it goes from The Slip to Bad Witch. Wonder if it's a Canadian thing.

Yay music licensing.

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Sai-kun
Feb 6, 2011

Is it ever going to be enough, to love another and be loved?


New song absolutely rips. gently caress yeah.

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002




gently caress ME

this is the best thing I've heard from NIN since year zero

wow. wo wowowowowowo .wow. .gfewrpgers]
hs

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Great times call for great men



It's good. Trent works well with contrasting singers like he does with Mariqueen and the backup singers during that one tour.

I, Butthole
Jun 30, 2007

Begin the operations of the gas chambers, gas schools, gas universities, gas libraries, gas museums, gas dance halls, and gas threads, etcetera.
I DEMAND IT


HEALTH rules and anyone who hasn't listened to Death Magic needs to, right now.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008



Feel like this has been a long time coming. Great song

Electro-Boogie Jack
Nov 22, 2006
bagger mcguirk sent me.


I, Butthole posted:

HEALTH rules and anyone who hasn't listened to Death Magic needs to, right now.

I wasn't sure how they could top Get Color, but god drat they did. album of the decade.

Photex
Apr 6, 2009






new track is so goooooood.

jtr
Oct 17, 2004

You've ruined the act, GOB.

Madkal posted:

Weird. I am checking now and it goes from The Slip to Bad Witch. Wonder if it's a Canadian thing.

Yeah sorry, meant to say Iím in the US and wondered if it was a country thing.

sleepwalkers
Dec 7, 2008




new song rules
health loving rules
everyone go listen to death magic

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007





Thanks for the Health recs I'll get on em

I can't stop listening to this song, jeez. 90s level Trent is A+++ on its own but the whole thing here just comes together drat near perfectly. Chills literally every time at the transition immediately after the first chorus. Also the "are you alone" parts. I am so in love oh my god

IUG
Jul 14, 2007

Without me, there is no mission.
I am the mission!


Is this going to be part of a Health album? Or should I pay Bezos Bucks to buy the track on Amazon?

Island Nation
Jun 20, 2006
Trust No One

IUG posted:

Is this going to be part of a Health album? Or should I pay Bezos Bucks to buy the track on Amazon?

The latter but why give Jeff money when you can buy it elsewhere like here:

https://youwillloveeachother.bandcamp.com/track/isnt-everyone

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!




(It's a good song though)

IUG
Jul 14, 2007

Without me, there is no mission.
I am the mission!


Island Nation posted:

The latter but why give Jeff money when you can buy it elsewhere like here:

https://youwillloveeachother.bandcamp.com/track/isnt-everyone

Hell yeah, and it's Bandcamp Friday I believe. (When Bandcamp doesn't take a cut and ask the money goes to the artists.)

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010


IUG posted:

Is this going to be part of a Health album? Or should I pay Bezos Bucks to buy the track on Amazon?

Itís going to be on their upcoming compilation DISCO4++.

DISCO4, meanwhile, is on every streaming service now, and has a bunch of collaboration songs on it, including one with Perturbator:

https://youtu.be/3AFhE8_tyuw

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008





Sir Lemming posted:




(It's a good song though)

But can anything stop him, presently?

magiccarpet
Jan 3, 2005






Caseman
Mar 21, 2006

OONTZ stomp OONTZ stomp OONTZ stomp OONTZ stomp


That last line says to me they'll have some festival dates this year but that's it.

EDIT: I love the presale code.

Caseman fucked around with this message at 14:23 on May 7, 2021

jtr
Oct 17, 2004

You've ruined the act, GOB.

Wasnít going to drive 9 hours or fly to Cleveland myself. Anyone here get tickets and going to either show?

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008



Manifesting a NIN appearance at ACL this year

sleepwalkers
Dec 7, 2008




jtr posted:

Wasnít going to drive 9 hours or fly to Cleveland myself. Anyone here get tickets and going to either show?

i would if i could travel a week into the future

spamman
Jul 10, 2002

Chin up Tiger, There is always next season...

Late to the HEALTH chat but they're one of the best bands I've ever seen live. It was just after Jupiter left and it was face rippingly fantastic. Die Slow is an all time classic.

polyester concept
Mar 29, 2017



HEALTHís insta account is also hilarious

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008





New Ixi up on the real worst NIN song

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008



the song is "big man with a gun", in case you thought it would be "no, you don't" like me.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

That was basically what I expected, she was really uncomfortable with the whole idea of the song but felt obligated to cover it. Credit to her for doing it as tastefully as possible. The bit about the baseline echoing "Ruiner" was interesting.

I think this was actually the first time I read Trent's interview quote about the song's meaning with full context, or at least the first time in a while, and it was a little clarifying. For some reason I was under the impression that he claimed the song was fully intended as a parody of gangsta rap misogyny. I never bought that explanation because it really undersells the way the song fits into the album's narrative. I thought he was in denial or something because it was too dark. But the full quote acknowledges that side of it too.

quote:

The record was nearing completion. I had written those lyrics pretty quickly and I didn't know if I was going to use them or not. To me, Downward Spiral builds to a certain degree of madness, then it changes. That would be the last stage of delirium. So the original point of "Big Man With A Gun" was madness. But it was also making fun of the whole misogynistic gangsta-rap bulls**t. ... I listen to a lot of it, and I enjoy it. But I could do without the degree of misogny and hatred of women and abuse. Then, my song got misinterpreted as exactly that. It was probably a lack of being able to write. I've been taken out of context, and it's ridiculous.

SUNKOS
Jun 4, 2016



The intro to Big Man With a Gun is great. Those drums and whatever effects he's using to accomplish those weird background vocals combined with the bass synth coming in is *chef's kiss*.

...I just looked it up and apparently those vocals are a sample of Tommy Lee having an orgasm in a porno

That song followed by A Warm Place and Eraser is probably my favorite part of TDS though. I always saw BMWAG as a parody song (and really wish there wasn't the "Shoot shoot shoot..." lyrics which have always sounded kinda embarrassing) and liked whatever that sound is that's near-identical to whatever is responsible for the solo in Suck (the end of each note sounds like a guitar but still, what/how?!) and then how the drums start really blasting near the end of the song. I remember reading that Trent was really particular about the percussion on TDS (I could swear I read an interview a very long time ago about him testing different snares in every room of the house to see how the acoustics were, and repeating for every part of a kit) and on songs like Big Man and Eraser it really pays off, imo.

Also, another bit of trivia I learned from looking at the Wiki page is that apparently the background screams throughout The Becoming are a sample taken from Robot Jox when a robot falls onto the crowd

Edit: Considering how controversial Big Man With a Gun is, this has me really interested:

quote:

Flood, known for engineering and producing U2 and Depeche Mode albums, was employed as co-producer on The Downward Spiral. It became his last collaboration with Nine Inch Nails due to creative differences. A "very dangerously self-destructive," humorous short song written for the album, "Just Do It", was not included in the final version and criticized by Flood in that Reznor had "gone too far."

I'm guessing by the name, themes and what Flood has said that the song was probably about suicide. Shame it never made it into the reissue of the album but Trent being older probably realized it would be a bad idea. Get a little curious sometimes if there's any particular older material that really makes him cringe. I imagine Starfuckers is definitely on that last, and the flip-flop-flip song from With Teeth. I wonder if Just Do It was perhaps an early version of Eraser? Sounds more like it was part of the finished tracks and pulled from the album however, so maybe not.

SUNKOS fucked around with this message at 15:19 on May 12, 2021

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

SUNKOS posted:

...I just looked it up and apparently those vocals are a sample of Tommy Lee having an orgasm in a porno

Erm, I think you're a little off on that detail, it was a sample created by Tommy Lee from... something. The exact origin is the stuff of rumors and all of them sound pretty icky so I'm not going to dig into it all, but I'm pretty sure it's not his voice.

Also "Just Do It" was referenced in the liner notes of the 3rd Watchmen soundtrack, among all kinds of other crazy Easter eggs.
https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2019/12/13/lets-take-a-look-inside-the-final-watchmen-soundtrack-release

Fors Yard
Feb 15, 2008

Aside from getting shot in the head, David, what have you done with yourself?


SUNKOS posted:

I'm guessing by the name, themes and what Flood has said that the song was probably about suicide. Shame it never made it into the reissue of the album but Trent being older probably realized it would be a bad idea. Get a little curious sometimes if there's any particular older material that really makes him cringe. I imagine Starfuckers is definitely on that last, and the flip-flop-flip song from With Teeth. I wonder if Just Do It was perhaps an early version of Eraser? Sounds more like it was part of the finished tracks and pulled from the album however, so maybe not.

I've always wondered if this is why he made Deviations. I love The Fragile although the lyrics can be a little corny sometimes and knowing how difficult a time that was for him in his life, it's probably hard to listen to.

Also, just in case people don't know the flip-flop lyrics are a reference to Pere Ubu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91KBuWqxE7g

Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?


Sir Lemming posted:

Erm, I think you're a little off on that detail, it was a sample created by Tommy Lee from... something.

Wasnít the whole thing that he took the sound from the Tommy Lee + Pam Anderson tape?????

SUNKOS
Jun 4, 2016



Sir Lemming posted:

Erm, I think you're a little off on that detail, it was a sample created by Tommy Lee from... something. The exact origin is the stuff of rumors and all of them sound pretty icky so I'm not going to dig into it all, but I'm pretty sure it's not his voice.

I saw it on Wikipedia which can be wrong, but apparently the source that confirms this is the album booklet itself:

quote:

The sample at the beginning of "Big Man with a Gun" comes from a studio-altered recording of a porn star having an orgasm. According to the album booklet, this "sample" is titled "Steakhouse" and is credited to Tommy Lee.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Reading that I would assume "a porn star" does not refer to Tommy Lee himself. IDK really.

Molestationary Store
May 21, 2007



I believe the story was that Tommy brought along a lady that was uh quite the squirter and the distorted sample is her getting off.

sticklefifer
Nov 11, 2003

TOO EASY

That NIN/HEALTH song somehow manages to sound 100% like both a NIN song and a HEALTH song, and it owns.

2000s+ album chat: W_T was sort of eh for me at first, but it grew on me over the years even though I still skip some tracks. I love YZ but about 2 songs needed to be cut out of the middle and put on something else (like maybe a God Given/My Violent Heart EP with another non-album track and some remixes). I love Ghosts and I'd wanted him to put out an instrumental/ambient album for years, so it was awesome when he put out four at once. I really enjoy The Slip (Echoplex is one of my all-time favorite NIN songs, and Discipline & 1,000,000 are both bangers), but I get why some people aren't into it.

Fors Yard posted:

I've always wondered if this is why he made Deviations. I love The Fragile although the lyrics can be a little corny sometimes and knowing how difficult a time that was for him in his life, it's probably hard to listen to.
What's interesting about Deviations is that some of the newly released tracks are labeled "instrumental" because they originally had vocals. I hope he puts out a Deviations 2 that restores them.

Also, I listened to The Fragile Instrumentals and Deviations 1 back to back not too long ago, and everything different on Instrumentals is so negligible that you'd have to be extremely pedantic to want to own both. One song intro has a different fade, one track is called something else, one track is later on the album, and that's literally it.

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

of a full load.





The podcast "Difficult Artist" has an interview with Reznor this week.
Nothing exactly groundbreaking, but he doesn't seem to do a lot of interviews so I figured it's worth posting.
https://www.audible.com/pd/Podcast/B08JJNJ1LG

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008



AFewBricksShy posted:

The podcast "Difficult Artist" has an interview with Reznor this week.
Nothing exactly groundbreaking, but he doesn't seem to do a lot of interviews so I figured it's worth posting.
https://www.audible.com/pd/Podcast/B08JJNJ1LG

Thanks for posting! Will listen in a bit

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Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT


AFewBricksShy posted:

The podcast "Difficult Artist" has an interview with Reznor this week.
Nothing exactly groundbreaking, but he doesn't seem to do a lot of interviews so I figured it's worth posting.
https://www.audible.com/pd/Podcast/B08JJNJ1LG
"In my mind, there's another Fragile-type album. I don't mean the sound of it, but the scope of it."

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