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a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Rageaholic Monkey posted:

Pino :swoon:

I love Trent's vocal delays too.

Setlist is baller. For some reason though, I checked the schedule on my local PBS affiliate and they're not airing this tomorrow night :negative:

So I guess I'll have to wait until it goes up on the ACL site?

It's not on here in Houston until 11pm. I'd swear ACL was on earlier than that. Weird.

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a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Just finished watching it, good set! Loved Trent's comment about being able to see himself on stage for a change.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Rageaholic Monkey posted:

Eh, if they're paid upgrades, I don't have the money for that. But I checked the weather for the show and it's supposed to be raining that day, so I'm gonna be on the lawn in the rain :(

At least it'll be cooler-- :lol: not in Houston it won't!

I'd be there too if I could've convinced any one of my friends/spouse to go. They've all given up on life. :(

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Platypus Farm posted:

Look, she said "come inside" and I came inside for her.

And now I have a kid and a mortgage, god drat it

:respek:

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


poo poo, and I just blew a huge load on Christmas presents. I'd be in for a whole lot of these any other time of year :(

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


glam rock hamhock posted:

It always amazes me how much the worst iTunes is and always has been. For a company that pretends to be all about making slick, easy to use things you'd think they'd at least try and make iTunes not the worst music manager that every existed.

:same:

Had an iPhone about 10 years ago and it was good, but gently caress iTunes forever. What a piece of garbage.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Finally broke down for the first time and bought the EP/t-shirt combo. Haven't had a NIN shirt since PHM came out in college.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


I'm with Trent in the pre-internet caveman days - I miss album art, liner notes, and the mystery of an artist. I couldn't go out and buy an armful of albums (or stream them) at the time, so you had to be more selective about what you got. Sometimes it was garbage, mostly it was okay, occasionally it was amazing. You'd listen to the same album over and over to catch the nuances of the music and lyrics - it seemed more an investment than it does now.

On the other side, music discovery is easier now, you can listen to basically anything, anywhere, any time you want. A lot of times that makes me feel a little overwhelmed - If I listen to artist X and the first few tracks don't catch me, and the same happens with the next artist I listen to, do I bother with the rest of the recommendations or not? I mean, I can go as deep as I want, but I can definitely see how us old bastards could be a little put off by the feast of tracks we can dive into whenever we want. Feels a little less personal, and like Trent mentioned, it seems music is more just something people listen to while they do other things.

Get off my lawn.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Earwicker posted:

The problem is if you want really nice album art, liner notes, packaging, and so on you generally need the backing of a label in order to get all that lined up, funded, and done. Which leads to a lot of other problems for the artist - in this case for example Trent has certainly spent a lot of his life dealing with the legal bullshit caused by labels. And as he points out in that 2009 interview, while the percentage of people who paid for Niggy Tardust was disappointingly low, Saul still made more from that release than he would have through a traditional label contract.

What's nice about the internet model is it's far easier for independent artists to get their work out there to wide audiences without that kind of support.

Oh, for sure on all counts. We're definitely not starving for new music in any sense. I think I just get a little analysis paralysis when it comes to finding new stuff.

Sir Lemming posted:

There's definitely some "get off my lawn" in that interview, but overall I'm impressed by his humility. He feels a certain way about things, but he's also genuinely trying to understand why everyone else doesn't feel the same and if there's merit to the other side. And it's obviously not just talk, since he's been pretty generous about piracy and stuff despite not liking it in theory. (After a brief fit of rage in the early 2000s, of course)

Of course, that doesn't stop the interview from being mined for headlines like "Trent Reznor Doesn't Get Drake's Success, Calls Ashton Kutcher an rear end in a top hat'"

I wasn't too surprised with his thought processes, as I think some of that comes with being an old fart - Trent is only 5 years older then me, and it seems like I more and more think outwardly about stuff as I age (which is fairly common, from what I understand). It's sort of fun to have aged along with him and watched him change, although again, I'm torn between having all the info there is out there about him vs. having him (or any other artist) a little more out of reach. I dunno. Old people stuff.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


sticklefifer posted:

On the other hand, I didn't have a lot of money to burn growing up. Blowing my allowance on a CD for that one radio hit I really liked and then finding out it's the only good song on the album, then getting $3 for it at a We Buy Used CDs store a month later was pretty disheartening and made me discover less music. I still appreciate music a lot and certain albums still really resonate with me, but I don't miss the crapshoot of the music market at all.

Oh yeah, definitely. I think everyone has had that, "This song is great" moment and then the album is a piece of crap. That always sucked - but I think I kept most of the great-single-but-lovely-albums. I agree it is nice to not have to blindly buy music that may or may not suck.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Okay, I have to confess. I don't understand it, it's completely irrational, but I can't stand Ilan Rubin. Every time I see him in a live video, my hate grows. What the hell is wrong with me?

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


fallenturtle posted:

What do people have against him?

That's just it - for me, it's completely irrational. I literally don't know anything about the guy aside from his name, he's a drummer, and he works with NIN.

The live stream was great (what I got to watch of it). Agreed that it didn't have the Tension tour production, but man - stripped down and grungy is still amazing.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Trent, my internet bros got their emails, where is mine? All I really want is the t-shirt, man, come on :(

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Where's my stuff, Trent? Trent, send it to me. Come on, man, give me my shirt...

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Got my Violence physical component. My son wants to take a sticker to school and slap it on a math test. Clever, but I don't want to deal with the inevitable phone call...

Booklet and shirt are cool. Any ideas if the serial numbers mean anything?

a mysterious cloak fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Aug 19, 2017

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Mine was just a physical component/shirt bundle.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


I've got that CD floating around somewhere! Supernaut is great.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Rageaholic Monkey posted:

Oh yeah, lining up at 6 in the morning on a Saturday to buy overpriced concert tickets sounds like a blast :roflolmao:

I mean, that's how we used to get tickets to shows. It was normal to plan on waking up rear end early to get in line for tickets. That's how I saw NIN the first three times iirc.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


glam rock hamhock posted:

And was it a blast?

It wasn't a laugh riot, but it was hanging out with friends, talking to people in line who'd maybe never seen that particular band (or has seen a show we hadn't that was awesome). Trying to guess who was spending big money for front row seats, or listening to people who'd bought tickets as they walked by to see if they mentioned anything like such and such seats were sold out, etc.

It was just a lot more social. Of course, we didn't have any other choice, but we still made the best of it.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


glam rock hamhock posted:

Besides what has been mentioned the drums at the end of Piggy are loving savage as gently caress.

Also on the opposite end of the spectrum the cheesy synth beats of Sanctified are amazing.

Pino Palladino's unbelievable reimagining of Sanctified's bass line.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


precision posted:

I didn't wait at all. We got there around 7, doors were at 8, there was a pretty long line but we all had our tickets already so it didn't take more than 30 minutes to get in (doors opened early)

I also left to get beers and came back to the front of the stage several times. It just wasn't that big of a crowd, there was a lot of empty space near the doors and sides of the venue. It was the Thompson Boling Arena in Knoxville, for reference.

edit: Also there wasn't a guard rail, the crowd went right up to the stage

Same experience, except for the Downward Spiral tour. He bounced a half full water bottle off my (and a couple others) head while I was working my way up front.

Nothing like NIN in a smaller venue.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Rageaholic Monkey posted:

Yeah, seeing Aphex Twin live was like a religious experience :swoon:

That was his first US show in 8 years and I don't think he's played a show here since.

poo poo. Color me beyond jealous.

But how do you know it wasn't his mysterious twin brother (not the one that "died" and he was named after)?

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


All those industrial music videos were grainy B&W/desaturated back then. Or it was footage of catastrophes or graphic scenes from movies.

I remember.

I was there.

I am old.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

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Asnorban posted:

https://wfmu.org/MACrec/cbmany.html

I have a few of these. I dropped the needle on one once and instantly picked it up because no way that wasn't damaging the hell out of it.

I'll check mine when I get home from work, but I bet we would have heard by now if there was anything there.

OMG flashback to childhood. I remember having a couple of those!

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

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Astrochicken posted:

It's a gun AND a penis!

:chanpop:

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

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Barry posted:

might of

Your opinion is stricken from the record.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

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Jfc that's just the best

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Rageaholic posted:

This new Alessandro Cortini album is top-notch synth work. NIN fans will definitely be into it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVJC--9Swuk

Thanks for mentioning this, listening to it now and it owns.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Lil Jimmy Reznor

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

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I like the Oneohtrix Point Never remix :(

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Trent and Atticus, I deeply appreciate the new music and your message.

However, it is not helping me feel better about evaluating coronavirus patients all day and working on infection control algorithms.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Madkal posted:

Trent Reznor? Isn't he that guy who does movie scores?

He's that guy that wants to shove his fist up yer butt :bahgawd:

PHM came out my freshman year of college. I had been getting into the industrial music scene for 2-3 years at that point, but NIN scratched an itch I wasn't even aware of.

I remember when Wish came out, a buddy had listened to it and his critique was "Trent learned to play guitar" :laffo:

Crazy that I've been listening to the guy for that long.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


hatelull posted:

The vibe of "Closer" in '94 was a weird thing.



Holy poo poo I was at that show. Trent threw a water bottle and a hit a couple of us with it!

Also saw them Halloween that year.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Ever since it came out, I've had trouble listening to the title track of Less Than.

I hear the chorus like this, almost without fail:

Go and look what you gone done
Come on welcome oblivion
Did it fix what was wrong with you?
You're my best friend

:stonklol:

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

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I watched about half of that one day last week. Pretty good.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


TOOT BOOT posted:

Only a little related at this point but Manson was accused of abuse by several ex-girlfriends (and a former employee also chimed in) and dropped from his label.

Good.

On a lighter note, watched the Twin Peaks episode featuring The Nine Inch Nails last night.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Wild T posted:

The worst part about Manson threatening these poor women is that he's just a goddamn dork. He's a dork with a poo poo ton of money, which makes him dangerous, but watching him in interviews it's clear that he's never progressed past being an edgy middle schooler. The interviews where he talk about how he's gang-affiliated are so goddamn cringey.

I never got into Manson because of the aesthetic, I guess. Like you said, edgy middle schooler vibe wasn't working for me in my 20s. I remember a buddy of mine saying something like Marilyn Manson would be pretty good if Marilyn Manson wasn't in the band.

And :lol: he said he's gang affiliated? That's hilarious.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Somewhere, Trent reads the Manson news and quietly, slowly starts to smile

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Rageaholic posted:

:vince:

I remember it coming out like it was yesterday.

Here's Alessandro demonstrating a cool synth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU7XzVrLsok


SUNKOS posted:

It's really nice seeing someone demo something like that in a non-traditional way and just showing what happens when you plug a guitar in, for example. It's too nice actually. I'm resisting temptation to preorder the drat thing now.

:negative:


I preordered, tweeted that I was excited about it, and Alessandro like my tweet :smug:

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a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Great, now I'm hoping Trent has a small archive of jingles he's rewritten just for fun, for like Tucks medicated pads, or stool softeners or something

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