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Noblesse Oblige posted:Adding/changing polarities is what Formas do. They're available in the marketplace for pretty cheap (20 plat?), and bps can be obtained from tower rewards or occasional alerts. You're missing the point of what I was saying, I'm aware of what formas do I've used around 40 of them, I'm saying that the prices on (most) weapons/frames in the store make them almost worthless to people who have played for any length of time, who would much rather build them. However, if you got say 3-4 extra, instant polarities on the 200 plat gun you just bought then some people might actually consider it since that is something that you can only get by grinding up affinity and using formas to reset, which can take weeks. If you're paying premium prices you should be getting a premium product is what I'm saying, which right now in most cases you are just getting swindled, paying what comes out at default plat prices to $15 generally for a single gun. Of course something like this would probably never happen, because there's plenty of people who have spent plat on weapons and frames and would go apeshit if they didn't get a refund or something. AndroidHub fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Nov 19, 2013 |
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I dunno if anyone else has mentioned/discovered this here, but stealth scanning also gives double the codex scans in addition to bonus affinity. So it is practical to do even if you don't care about the affinity (which seems to all go to your frame anyways).
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I'm relatively sure they will go on flash sale at some point, also be aware that each pack comes with affinity and credit amps, which do not stack up if you get multiple packs at once, so if you're gonna get multiple, grab one of them now and then one of the other when they are on sale for christmas. Unless of course you don't care about the boosts (you should though, since they are worth 40 plat each, and pretty useful.)
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I think DE just needs to balance their resources a bit better, the impression I get is that they have way too many content creators, and not enough people who can actually clean up the messes in the game. So while their modellers and artists are busy making new weapons/enemies/levels, the coders have to spend most of their time integrating the stuff that's made into the game so they can sell it and keep it making money. It's by no means a good excuse for the way they are running things, but that's the impression I get of how warframe's development is going. Personally I would welcome a month or two of no new stuff and just balancing old stuff, redesigning the boring mission types (like they have been saying they would do since july/august), making the crap frames more useful, giving every weapon a place that it's actually useful. If they are intent on cramming new stuff in every week though, it would be nice for them to add things people would actually use/play like more alternate defense/mobdef maps, in the style of the corpus outpost defense maps, where there's, you know, more than one that you play every single time. Also they should really get some other voices in on the core design besides Steve and Scott, they have actively voiced how much they like to do things specifically because it annoys people, and they are really quick to claim some of the worst design choices in the game whenever they are brought on on their livestreams.
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For the people who don't understand what's overpowered about mag, it's that her pull does 300 base armor ignoring damage (up to 687 with the right mods) to everything in a 180ish degree arc up to a ludicrous range for as little as 7 energy with no cooldown. Her ult is not what people complain about (and most people I know don't even slot it). If her pull was reverted to how it was in it's previous incarnation I would be extremely happy personally, because I used her a lot back then and to great effect with certain group setups. As she is now she just isn't fun, pull is now 90% damage and 10% crowd control/enemy positioning, which is completely backwards from her design and what the ability is described as. And the worst part is that the redesign made her two middle skills really useful, and mostly balanced, but who cares when there's no reason to use anything but pull to instantly kill the entire map.
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Wheeee posted:This game is awful on so many levels, yet I keep logging in. Welcome to Warframe 
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Gestalt Intellect posted:Christ I don't know how they update this fast. I'm actually impressed the game isn't more broken than it is You're joking, right? DE takes it's sweet time doing just about everything, just because they are releasing a bunch of stuff close together doesn't mean they haven't been working on it for ages. They have been talking about the new hud since July, and I'm pretty sure it's based on a concept posted by a forums user some time back in April/May. And the same goes for just about everything else they talked about on the livestream, all of the grineer bosses besides Kril, Vor, and now Ruk are literally recolored placeholders that have been there for a year or longer (and Vor and Kril do double duty as the bosses of phobos). Alad V and Derelict Golem the only non-grineer bosses that aren't recolors/resizes of other enemies, and I do include jackal and hyena, because they use the same model which has been around since the early development of dark sector. The only thing I can't guarantee we haven't been promised for the better part of a year is the new frame, but the track record for new frames lately hasn't been too good. I don't mean to sound super salty about this, but everything they added or changed for the better for update 11 has seemingly been reverted, or changed to be worse than it was before. Pre-damage 2.0 there were at least weapons that had the potential to be good all-around and could deal with scaled up heavies, now heavies (and grineer in general) are more durable than ever. Stalker in a solo mission is usually either a restart or revive now, unless you are specifically built for tanking damage (every frame damage reductions/avoidance ability besides bless and absorb is ignored by stalker now, including invisibility and iron skin) and he can oneshot most frames through a fully leveled redirection if that's all they have on. And we still haven't heard any news about the remakes of the other really terrible mission types that are pretty much only ever played as alerts or to unlock other nodes (rescue, spy, and deception). It is nice to know that the reason the UI is finally getting improved is because of a new hire that apparently knows what he is doing though.
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Clocks posted:Yeah, while you can definitely say they are focusing on the wrong things, that doesn't mean there's a lack of updates. If any of my friends asked my opinion on warframe today I would tell them to stay the hell away for at least a half a year, then ask again, the game is incredibly hostile early unless you're going to spend money, and even then it's full of pitfalls once you do spend money. If you play long enough or invest enough money you get to that nougaty center of the dry, rancid truffle that is warframe, but as of now (and as far as I can remember) the price of getting there is too high, be it in money or time spent. But even once you get to the nougaty center, it's really just the same nougat all the time and you will quickly grow tired of eating it over and over. DE needs to take a long hard look at the plat pricing for frames and weapons, and prices of non-cash services like fusion in addition. The early game is harder than ever starting out since they reduced how many credits you can get from void missions and made it much harder to get those required mods without trading for them. DE may be adding things like frames and weapons, but there have been glaring problems right on the surface of the game that DE has ignored for far too long or even taken steps backwards on. Warframe is a bad game and deserves all of the bad reviews it has gotten, it has the potential to be good, but without much of any sense of direction it could be a long, long time until it gets there.
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I quoted you because of the claim that it's free, a game isn't really free when you need to invest an inordinate amount of time to get to a point where it's actually enjoyable for what it is, I've played enough "free to play" games to know that as a fact, you're paying one way or another in most of them. The game is free, the fun parts of it are not.
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Fuzz posted:How is Ash? He seems like he'd be awesome, but all the downing on melee makes me wonder. Unless you are out of other frames to get, don't get him, he is possibly the worst frame after valkyr, everything he does is done by other frames and with more synergy, Loki has a better teleport and invis, the shuriken are just a basic nuke, and his ult isn't really worth slotting. He is maybe alright if you just don't like Loki but want a stealth frame to solo/scan with(though Loki is one of the best frames in the game). To make him better they need to make his shuriken more unique/useful, make his teleport useful in some way (making it just move you a certain distance in direction you're aiming would probably do the trick). And either completely change his ult or make it complete a hell of a lot faster once cast. Every skill he has is lackluster and none of them contribute to a group in any meaningful way.
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Elysiume posted:Energy siphon can only be gotten through alerts, right? I want one. Yeah, and it's one of the major problems with the early game, all auras are alert only, and considering that an unpotatoed frame gets a third of it's power from the mod it's pretty poo poo all around.
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Lemon Curdistan posted:You won't have to, there's more than enough weapons and frames in the game right now to get you to the highest ML you need to access stuff. This is pretty bad advice, finish them off, if you play for any appreciable amount of time you'll be annoyed at yourself that you didn't.
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Gestalt Intellect posted:After 300 hours I've never felt like I should have maxed my starter items. Once you get enough mastery to use everything there is literally no benefit to grinding out stupid weapons except to make a tiny number next to your name go up. At rank 10 you can use a third resource extractor at once but you can live without that and there are more than enough fun items to get to 10 anyway without needing to do unfun things. Well I guess I am talking from the point of view of having nothing left to level (940 hours), at which point you will be annoyed you didn't finish them. I think that not having them sitting there in your profile at rank 19 is worthwhile in a game that is only about leveling your gear and getting more gear, but whatever.
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BitBasher posted:I just woke up and missed a PS4 banshee helmet alert by 5 minutes. gently caress me. Only part I needed. It was probably not the frame component unless that has been changed recently, you can't actually get the warframe components for banshee in alerts, they like to label the alternate helmets at just "Banshee Helmet Blueprint" this may or may not have changed on PC recently, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's still the same.
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Piell posted:The results for the new community melee weapons are in! The top 3 winners are These all look really good and I'm glad DE can at least seem to judge contests well enough. I haven't been playing much lately, but what's the deal with the detron? is it actually a good gun? Because it looked like just another shotgun pistol to me when the corpus crewmen were using it.
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Gestalt Intellect posted:You'll have to go Private and invite friends or people out of chat unfortunately. I really wish there was a lobby browser so you could see some basic info (like PING ughh) to choose a game to join or start your own. It's stuff like this that has really killed my interest when so many updates came and went and they didn't fix really basic stuff like this; there should at least be a "Look for Group" and a "Start a Game" when you click on a node, right now the only thing you can really do is set your ping limit all the way down and hope that the game pulls accurate pings (even at the lowest ping preference I still get tons of games with really bad hosts). And holy poo poo the game has gone for so long with one of the worst HUDs in anything I've played in the past decade, I know that there's one "on the way" but they have been saying that for 8-ish months. They at least could have modified the existing UI in the mean time. But I guess it all really comes down to the fact that they don't have a loving design doc (which they are very proud of apparently  ).
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I gotta say I really, REALLY hate the new markers for the map and HUD, it really feels like they clash with the new hud's style and the old ones would have looked less out of place, oh they also all look the loving same. The new HUD in general needs a lot of work, like while I was playing tonight I didn't even notice there were ability timers because everything is so goddamn small. Mod stacking would be a lot nicer if you could just click it multiples times to add more of a mod instead of having to pick a number to fuse. Interception had no enemies show up at all when I tried it, and the rewards were particularly lovely compared to competing modes. I'm hoping they come up with some hackneyed event to reset some of the starmap soon, because while it's great to be able to farm oxium on an asteroid base tileset, I'd love to have the option of doing it anywhere else. Aside from the issues with seemingly everything that was changed/added, I think this is a pretty good update. The hud certainly has a lot of problems, but most of them seem like they will probably be changed somewhat quickly (I guess a hotfix that just went out made the minimap bigger?) but it seems like it will be quite good once they get the size and such sorted. The mod stacking is acceptable, and makes fusing a lot simpler. In usual DE style most of the update looks like there was no communication or testing at all before it went out, but hopefully it will be fixed by the weekend. Also it seems a new Darvo alert is up, reward is a forma like last time, gonna wait to do it till tomorrow myself though, it's got 4 days and 8 hours left on it, so no rush.
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limited posted:drat, the developers obviously know their community is full of assholes. I got 'invited' ( Read, blindly invited ) by a pubbie to a high-level planet while I was mashing my way through the foundry. It's deception! Fine, waste my time, I'll waste yours... Some free XP as well, why not? I don't get it, are you one of the assholes the community is full of? What is the point of this story? "The devs made it too hard for me to troll this dude who DARED to invite me to a mission, I mean I could have just ignored it or left when I realized I had no interest, but that's for noobs, heh."
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Carecat posted:Any mastery that gets you closer to Rank 6 for low effort is a good thing. This guide is bad enough that I felt the need to edit it and repost it, it is in no way a complete guide now, but it's at least a bit better- pre:All resources can drop from crates, lockers, enemies and bosses. It can be easier to farm resources during an infestation invasion of a planet with the drops you want due to the high spawn rate and ease of killing the melee only enemies on defense and survival. Any resource farming is best done in Defense/Survival/Mobile Defense. Having a Nekros that is built for mass desecrating (and actually does it) will essentially double your resource yield. Alloy Plate - Abundant Farm in Tower Voids/Venus/Jupiter/Phobos/Sedna/Ceres/Pluto (pretty much wherever has other things you need). Nano Spore - Abundant Farm in Orokin Derelict/Eris/Saturn/Neptune. Control Module - Abundant Farm in Tower Voids. Ferrite - Common but drops in small quantity Farm on Appolodorus, Mercury. Also on Earth/Neptune Gallium - Common Frequent invasion reward, Abundant on Mars as drops (Survival/Defense/Mobdef). Polymer Bundle - Common AndroidHub fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Feb 11, 2014 |
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Ajax posted:I am 99.9999% sure desecrate doesn't work on Oxium Ospreys. Their death explosion, either kamikaze or killed by tenno, leaves no corpse for Nekros to work his magic on. I have never been able to get it work, but I'm still not entirely sure because :de: It doesn't work on any ospreys or orokin shield drones afaik, one of the reasons mods like coolant leak are so rare.
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Karnegal posted:Is there any reason to keep duplicate blueprints? Or should I cash out my extra oberon helmets and what not? Do it, it's highly unlikely that DE will make blueprints or complete components trade-able, and your foundry will feel so much nicer.
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limited posted:Glad I'm not the only one who gets these. First time it happened I was all, 'Wooo! Free credits! limited posted:I imagine it's also a marketing thing. Probably hoping people just go, 'Argh, gently caress it' and buy some platinum to get a gun that doesn't suck balls before they learn you can get guns from blueprints easier as you progress through the map. Originally I thought resources were scarce as hell. Now I'm just rolling in stuff that isn't rare drops. Yeah, I would wager that the vast majority of plat weapon/frame purcahses are by brand new players, excluding new releases. The pricing is just too aggressive to get anyone who hasn't sunk hundreds of dollars on a founder or prime access pack. I would say the monetization is one of the weaker ones I've seen from free-to-play games, people will gladly pay real money for hats and color packs and poo poo in these games, but when you present them with something that can be gotten for a little bit of effort, and a day's wait, they'll they take the way that doesn't cost real money 95% of the time. The prices are just way too outrageous to make casual purchases once you know what it's actually worth in-game.
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Kris xK posted:I keep hoping they will, but I think the idea got screamed down by the unwashed masses. Warframe pubbies are pretty dumb, but who would honestly think that it's a bad idea in any capacity?
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Yeah, I really don't like most of that list, because almost all of it is stuff you can craft from the market at any level, the exceptions being- Vauban - Which can only be built after you gather the parts from alerts (which are completely random as to when they occur). Soma - Has a high rank requirement, and I guess you can get around that by buying it with plat? (maybe). Penta- Same as Soma. I was gonna put the AkStilleto as something I agreed with, but if you're in the clan then it's apparently as easy to build as anything else I guess?(I wasn't paying attention when I built mine.) Sobek, Kunai, and Hikou, do have moderate rank requirements as well, but I don't really think they are very good or fun in general. Which is really what I would say is a big part of the problem with DE's monetization of the game, you don't really get a whole lot out of the deal by purchasing weapons and frames with plat. You get the slot and potato the weapon or frame comes with when you buy it with plat, and that's all the value that can't be easily achieved for free otherwise most of the time; 40 plat worth for frames and 26 plat worth for weapons. If you're really jonesing to spend some plat, use it on slots, cosmetics, potatoes, etc; stuff that you cannot (easily) get for free. e: IF you're just starting out, then for the love of god play with some goons, get them to ferry you to the planets you need mats from to build whatever it is you want to make, and they will probably help you farm the blueprints and mats you need as well, lots of goons at this point only have mastery as a goal in-between updates. I'm not in goonclan personally for reasons, but I'd be glad to help as well; I'm AndroidHub in-game too, so just send me a friend request or group invite AndroidHub fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Feb 18, 2014 |
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I think Steel fiber, Vitality, and Redirection are the only common 10-ranks, which are magnitudes easier to max than rare or uncommon ones (both warframe and sentinel variants), and there's four 10-rank uncommon mods: Serration, Hornet Strike, Equilibrium, and Provoked(lol). The Uncommons take 2/3rds of what a rare takes to get to max (8184 mod power compared to 12276), all things to take into consideration. I'm honestly not sure what I'm going to use mine on, I might get another heavy caliber and use it on that, but I've got all of the "useful" 10-rank mods to at least rank 8. I might try tainted shell, it's really gimmicky, but it could be interesting I suppose.
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Chubbs posted:When is this Steel Charge thing happening? I can't view the warframe forums link from work. I would assume after a patch later tonight, last few non-hotfix patches have been after 8pm eastern time, but that doesn't mean this one will be.
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Androc posted:I have a whole bunch of prime parts that I'd be happy to trade for boar prime parts, if we're doing this now. I've got some boar parts if you've got sicarus or dakra parts (anything besides the bps for either). I'm not in goonclan but I've got the same name in-game as here, so drop me a friend request or w/e.
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