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cigaw
Sep 13, 2012


Skwirl posted:

I remember on the official Bioware forums back in the day there was someone who kept playing through BG1 and re-importing their character until they had 25s in every stat through using the stat books, I don't think they were using a level uncapper or any other mods.
I tried doing that once, but quickly became bored during the second run. Max level and all the nice equipment takes a lot of the challenge out of the game.

I also remember when I discovered the Console, furiously typing the Midas() and FirstAid() commands to get gold and potions! And a short time after that, using the Console to create all the stat tomes to bulk my character to 25 in all stats and instantly thinking "this is dumb" moments later.

You know what was fun? Gems that didn't stack and no containers to carry all your crap! Also, what was the ammo stack? 40? I can't seem to recall if scrolls stacked or not... Inventory management was a pain in the rear end.

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Suspicious
Apr 30, 2005
You know he's the villain, because he's got shifty eyes.


Projectile stacks were 20 max. Potions, scrolls and gems were 5 max.

I remember as a kid my inventory was 80% filled with arrows.

cigaw
Sep 13, 2012


20 to a projectile stack, that's right! I remember the 5 for potions as well. I know jewelry didn't (and doesn't) stack, but I vaguely remember also juggling gems.

I never used archery too much because it required a ridiculous amount of inventory space and because it was a pain in the rear end to switch between sword-and-board and a bow. I'm frankly surprised this was only resolved with Siege of Dragonspear.

Good times spending a proficiency point in Large Swords and wielding anything from long swords and up. So much easier.

Zane
Nov 14, 2007


I remember I was like 12 or 13 when I got bg1 and xzar and montaron were the absolute weirdest fuckers to me. I still don't know exactly what is going on w/ them.

sweart gliwere
Jul 5, 2005

better to die an evil wizard,
than to live as a grand one.


There was at least one popular BG1/TotSC experience cap remover mod (to level 20 or 30 if memory serves, since it'd bug out if you advanced past a certain point). For arrows, I think you had to overflow-glitch the stack or just value-change the stacks to stupidly large via GateKeeper etc.

It was all very helpful for players using weaker characters, and/or being super cheesy.

sweart gliwere fucked around with this message at Oct 20, 2017 around 03:03

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"


Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:

does anyone remember what it was like playing BG1 before BG2 came out?

did people mod in a higher level cap in lieu of not having another game? did rpg people really go insane for bg1 like I think they did

Go play the GOG version of Betrayal at Krondor, that was released in 1993, between that and BG1 being released in 1998 was not all that much. It was the biggest AAA fantasy game of the day, almost as big as Diablo 1. I think that was the histroy really, Betrayal, Diablo, then Baldurs Gate.

Zane posted:

I remember I was like 12 or 13 when I got bg1 and xzar and montaron were the absolute weirdest fuckers to me. I still don't know exactly what is going on w/ them.

They are insane sociopathic gay lover assassins.

Now I want a gay romance mod where you can romance either one and then have to face down the other in a duel to the death if you succeed.

Washout fucked around with this message at Oct 20, 2017 around 07:13

Wildtortilla
Jul 8, 2008


I was really into Diablo and I saw this game and got pumped. I eventually bought it when I was 12 or 13 and was expecting a game that played like Diablo. I was sorely disappointed and thought this was a lovely, poorly executed Diablo ripoff. It wasn't until I first gave the game a second chance six years ago that I realized it was great and not until August that I finally beat it for the first time.

Part of me is glad I skipped it early on cause those arrow stack sizes would have driven me insane. It's really fun reading everyone's memories of the game. At least once a week I think back fondly to playing games on old, lovely computers. Fighting with computers to play Warcraft 2, Fallout, and Half-Life and being amazed that Starcraft always worked without any fuss. Those were the days, man.

Entropy238
Oct 21, 2010



I played Baldurs Gate when it first came out when I was around 9 or 10 and I had absolutely no idea wtf I was doing. Stopped and started multiple times and always ended up quitting around Cloakwood/The Bandit Camp cause I got lost, but managed to explore the whole map. I still remember changing CDs between map screens and then eventually losing one of them at some point.

Played and completed BG2 in my teens but still had no idea what was going on. I figured out that holy smite was pretty drat good though.

Only really started to grapple with the systems when I came back to the series in my very late teens/early twenties.

I really remember the stand-off in RPG communities in my early teens over Neverwinter Nights vs Dungeon Siege vs Morrowind. My brother got Neverwinter Nights but I still had no idea wtf was going on with D&D (didn't even realise it was a different version of the same systems in BG) so didn't really like it till I was older. I gravitated more towards Dungeon Siege because it was hacky and slashy and online play was fun.

Out of all of them I ended up playing Morrowind the most though. It's like crack to me.

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xiansi
Jan 26, 2012

im judjing all goons cause they have bad leader, so a noral member is associated whith thoose crasy one

Personaly i would quit the goons if i was in cause of thoose crasy ppl

Grimey Drawer

Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:

does anyone remember what it was like playing BG1 before BG2 came out?

Oh hell yes. It was like changing CDs a lot. Until I found a tip in a printed game mag (remember those things?) that would let you install the whole thing on hard drive, assuming you had an unthinkable 3Gb or so spare!

Also, playing as pure thief, because thieves are fun, and I had done well with one in P&P 2nd edition - what could go wrong?

I think I made it about as far as mines before re-rolling as pure fighter with a bow, which seemed a terribly OP thing at the time.

Although as someone else mentioned, arrow stack sizes were terrible.

Still loved it though. Being young is a hell of a drug...

cigaw
Sep 13, 2012


xiansi posted:

Oh hell yes. It was like changing CDs a lot.
I remember being somewhat confused at how BG2 was such a large and advanced game and fit into 4 CDs while BG1 had 6 +1 for TOTSC.

I now kinda recall eventually modifying my world exploration in a way to minimize CD swapping.

Suspicious
Apr 30, 2005
You know he's the villain, because he's got shifty eyes.


BG1 discs weren't compressed IIRC.

Molybdenum
Jun 24, 2007
Melting Point ~2622C

I scratched up my disks enough with the original paper holder that I ordered replacement copies for 5 bucks

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Some of my discs are still scattered around the house after a renovation and two moves.

Nighteyedie
May 30, 2011


The first time I played BG1 was with some demo disc my dad got at a supermarket. At the time I thought that was the entire game, and I had no idea what was going on but I play it countless times with different characters. It wasn't until years later that I learned the actual game is much longer.

Wizard Styles
Aug 6, 2014



I still have a CD case with a ton of old games somewhere. All the Infinity Engine games, the AoEs, everything Jagged Alliance, most of the C&C series, MDK2, all the old Blizzard games, some HoMM, some Tomb Raider...

I think I had to get new BG2 CDs twice.

ProfessorCirno
Feb 17, 2011

The strongest! The smartest! The rightest!


Nighteyedie posted:

The first time I played BG1 was with some demo disc my dad got at a supermarket. At the time I thought that was the entire game, and I had no idea what was going on but I play it countless times with different characters. It wasn't until years later that I learned the actual game is much longer.

There are so, so many demos I remember playing, of so many games that may as well have never existed, all lost in time.

bike tory
May 6, 2007

Just dance


Ugh gently caress constant disc changes. My disc 2 (or maybe 3?) had a scratch on it so I couldnt go to that area directly south of Beregost. It was years before I actually got to explore there

Also I bought TotSC but it was a different regionalised version from my base game (which was the out-of-region one) so it didn't work. Being like 10 at the time I couldn't afford to buy the base game again and didn't know how to import TotSC so it was years before I got to play that too.

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006


i had to buy two copies of baldur's gate due to scratching my cd's. then i bought bg2 and somewhere before ToB making disc images became easy enough for me to do it and it was goodbye for constant cd changing!

FastestGunAlive
Apr 7, 2010

Dancing palm tree.


Iíve still got my original copies of 1 and 2.

I remember playing 1 for the first time was pretty exciting because my friends and I played ad&d but we were dumb kids so it was a hard game. I ended up just cheating my stats and filling my inventory with exploding arrows and summoning drizzts and go on killing sprees because Iíd usually get bored at or around the mines. I did have the strategy guide though so I had an understanding of what else the game had to offer. It wasnít until after 2 came out that I had a better understanding of the game and went back to replay one.

I also bought the novelization of 1 and thought it was the weirdest poo poo ever. I think it made me stop buying d&d novels.

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Wizard Styles
Aug 6, 2014



BG was my first exposure to D&D, a fact that may be to blame for 13 year old me just jumping in without looking up anything about the classes and making a Monk in BG2 because I really wanted to play as Bruce Lee.

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