LP: Let's Play DmC: Devil May Cry

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Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Old Dante was a smug, smarmy, cocky bastard who was always ready with a cheesy one-liner. Sometimes that's exactly what you want to see. It's like a b-movie in game form. If he was any less over the top no one would have liked him. Since the game had good gameplay on top of that, it became a hit.

DmC's a fine game from a gameplay perspective but it lost the smug charm of (most of) the old games and replaced it with edgy-cool.

# ¿ Nov 27, 2013 16:39

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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 01:38

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Whale Punk? Might have to play that.

# ¿ Nov 29, 2013 17:07

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

RareAcumen posted:

Ya'll keep saying how New Dante is this terrible awful character that no one likes but I've yet to see it. He just seems like every other 'I work alone' anti-social character that's shown up as protagonists in games.

Well, yeah. That's the problem.

# ¿ Dec 1, 2013 19:43

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

horriblePencilist posted:

I don't understand why people get so angry over this game. I understand it uses a franchise with a cult-following and has a really silly story that the writers intended to be 100% serious, but I don't see why we can enjoy it just like people enjoy bad movies that have been made with complete sincerity.
Then there's this whole thing about how I dislike old Dante and mind new Donte less but I'm not gonna open that can of worms. For now.

I'm not angry. I'm disappointed.

As for the bad movie thing, I don't think this is the kind of "bad movie" people enjoy. You can't plop in just any "bad movie" and enjoy it, enjoyable "bad movies" have certain traits people look for, and DmC doesn't really have them. Does that make sense?

For the record, I think of the old games as the enjoyable kind of "bad movies". For the most part.

# ¿ Dec 3, 2013 15:45

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

I had no issue with Nero. He made a good counterpoint to Dante. He even tried to outdo him a few times in grandstanding (the scene with the benches, near the beginning), despite being more serious in general. Everything I've seen about New Dante suggests he takes himself too seriously. The game does, as well (only a nephe-whosit can kill a demon, and he and Vergil are apparently the only nephe-mabobs).

Perhaps he gets better later on, though. We'll see.

# ¿ Dec 3, 2013 23:54

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

I have 4 so I might play along if you do.

# ¿ Dec 6, 2013 01:57

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Bob Barbas looks like a man I can trust. :v:

# ¿ Dec 7, 2013 03:42

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

DOOP posted:

Is that a Union Jack on Dante's coat sleeve? Is Dante suddenly English?

NT's British, so it's possible. Wasn't looking that closely though.

# ¿ Dec 7, 2013 04:05

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

RareAcumen posted:

If you're like me, and have no imagination, you can watch Chip Cheezum show off the demo instead!

On topic: I went and watched a little of Accounting Nightmare's DMC3 and 4 let's plays and yikes. They're so much more lighthearted compared to this it's not even funny. No wonder people were so disappointed.

To be fair, the original Devil May Cry wasn't nearly as lighthearted as those two either. Still a better game than this, at least from what I've seen so far.

# ¿ Dec 8, 2013 01:42

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Chaostime posted:

Devil May Cry is the only game of the series that I've played, and it really does show that it was supposed to be a ResEvil game, the fixed camera angles alone give that away. That's not to say it's a bad game (it's really not) but there are some REALLY hammy moments (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4qLEkFJLnM)

Yeah, this thread made me go and watch AccountingNightmare's DMC1 LP, and it's much hammier and serious than I remember.

I wasn't a fan of RE when I first played it, so I had no idea that they were similar.

# ¿ Dec 9, 2013 21:36

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

I hear Monster Hunter is getting a Dante costume. But it's Old Dante, which is kinda unexpected for me.

# ¿ Dec 13, 2013 16:41

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

toasterwarrior posted:

Yeah, Pesky Splinter posted about it. Rebellion looks really messed up when you tune it to MH greatsword proportions, I find.

Must have missed Pesky Splinter's post.

# ¿ Dec 13, 2013 17:15

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

David D. Davidson posted:

Since there was nothing that hasn't really been mentioned before brought up (Well except Kat but I'm saving taht one still) I'll mention something that does bother me:
Ebony & Ivory

In the old games they were a pair of heavilly customized Colt M1911A1's. Now the M1911 is a gun with a lot of history behind it. It was the official sidearm of the Military until the late 80's and it still is even used by some servicemen today. Not bad for a gun that's over a centry old. It is hailed as a good dependable firearm by both collectors and military specialists alike. So it makes sense that Dante would use a pair of them when you consider that his profession is a Devil hunter.

Now for that New and "hip" Ebony & Ivory:

They're a pair of desert eagles. Now why this bothers me so is that The Desert Eagle is basically the Mid Life crisis Prosche of firearms. Desert Eagles are big and heavy and while they pack a punch they are quite slow to fire and are inaccurate as all hell. They only got into popular culture because they were used in action movies becasue they are big and flashy. So they only people who would use them in real life are Middle age men and men with tiny Penises. What else bothers me about the new Ebony & Ivory is also the girp. As I'm sure people are aware of is that the magazine of almost every handgun is stored in the grip. So looking at these guns you have to ask where the hell do the bullets go? The grip has the wierd curve to it and doesn't look like you can insert a Magazine into it. Now before anyone argues that they only exist in Limbo I would point out you're wrong because we can see one of the Strippers that Mangy Crackhead bangs in the beginning of the game playing with them when they're not in Limbo, and Later we will see Mangy Crackhead fire them outside of Limbo. So what I'm saying is that the only reason they got turned into Desert Eagles is because Tameem has a tiny dick and thought that it would look cool.

Also when you compare the guns used in the original game you can see that with the exception of Nero's Double Barreled revolver and maybe Lady's big fuckoff Rocket Launcher they are all either practical firearms or demonic weapons of some kind. Now you could argue that because Japan has stricter gun control laws than in the States that they don't need to be as big or as flashy to be impressive but really I think it' more that it was just a cool little detail that they put into the old games.

IIRC, Dante makes bullets with his Devil Powers. I'm pretty sure this is established canon since the first game, BTW.

And I doubt that every man who uses a desert eagle is middle aged or has a small dick. Not that I'm gonna check.

# ¿ Dec 13, 2013 22:12

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

David D. Davidson posted:

True, but it seems that Mangy Crackhead can only use his abilities in Limbo, so it doesn't explain anything about him using them in the real world.

I know, but from what I understand that's really the stigma that the Desert Eagle has among gun enthusiasts.

I wasn't aware that New Dante could only use his powers in Limbo. Where does it say that?

# ¿ Dec 13, 2013 22:49

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

David D. Davidson posted:

YEah but the whole being able to magic bullets into his guns illustrates a problem with the concept of Limbo. The rules of what Mangy Crackhead can do in Limbo as compaired to what he can do in the "real World" are never adequately explained. The Cutscene where he uses his guns Illustrates this perfectly, for a start why doesn't he just go over there and just kill his attackers with rebellion, I mean that would probably be quicker and a lot less risky than just standing there and firing his guns at them. So that just leave the question of wether or not Dante can use magic in the real world. It doesn't seem to be that way.

Nothing so far has suggested to me that his powers are only available in Limbo. Maybe other people see it that way, though.

# ¿ Dec 14, 2013 00:34

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Lotish posted:

Man the relationship between Dante and Trish in the first game creeped me out so bad. She was "better" in DMC 4 because they didn't remind you that she's a demonic copy of his mother (spoiling in case this thread ends up playing the original game); I still didn't like her but she was a much different character, much more like goofy DMC 3 Dante in spirit, just with gratuitous sexy poses.

At least she isn't a catholic schoolgirl.

# ¿ Dec 15, 2013 04:26

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Pesky Splinter posted:

Left trigger for ANGEL DICK, right for DEMON DICK.

SSSENSATIONAL

# ¿ Dec 15, 2013 18:45

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Crabtree posted:

Also isn't it weird that he's doing female angels only, Fallen or otherwise? Isn't that a little incestuous for a demon angel hybrid to specifically target for? It's bad enough that a 1/5th of this Dante's entire origin is "Wasted his time having mindless sex for most of his young life - in between fighting authority and killing demonic orphanage runners", but that this needs to have a hint of Oedipus by him going after women that share the only aspect of his mother we ever know about?

Although, this talk about actual biblical deceptions of angels being the things Dante sexes would at least make the images slightly more hilarious to think about. "Dude, she used every one of her 7 heads and 10 wings! Don't even get me started on the flaming wheel one!"

I don't know where you were for our discussion about Trish. Knock on the game all you want, loving a bunch of angels is less incestuous than your love interest straight up looking like your mom. Still juvenile, though.

# ¿ Dec 15, 2013 20:30

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Schubalts posted:

I don't think Dante and Trish's relationship had gotten farther than becoming a buddycop movie, after that reveal. "I figured a twin of Dante's would be more fun." feels more like her taking a dig at Vergil being the Serious Brother, while Dante is constantly goofing off.

I prefer it that way. None of the ladies are actually love interests, they're just pals he occasionally leers at.

# ¿ Dec 15, 2013 21:20

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

SirDan3k posted:

You know I don't really remember Dante ever leering at them unless they did or were in the process of doing something bad rear end.

How about this?

# ¿ Dec 15, 2013 21:57

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

I can't believe that happened. What the hell was wrong with the writers? Did they think saying gently caress over and over was cool?

And the sex scene was just unnecessary. Gross even with clothes still on.

# ¿ Dec 17, 2013 16:29

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Singh Long posted:

I'm preety sure it's safe to post this now...unless it's been done already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bSgQzIs3Zk

what.

Who the hell is that chick and where did she read Shakespeare.

# ¿ Dec 17, 2013 18:03

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Singh Long posted:

Lilith's VA.

looked into it. Her name is Robin Riker. I decided since I haven't seen any of her work it wouldn't be fair to say mean things about her, except that she said something stupid in an interview.

# ¿ Dec 17, 2013 18:34

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Lotish posted:

Worst thing to me is how he gets the new weapon. Oh, the demon is dead, now you have Hulk fists! No kind of explanation, no kind of fanfare, and the weapon has nothing to do with the demon he killed in any way. At least in the other DMCs if the weapons weren't a direct evolution of the boss you killed (like Beowulf's gauntlets being based on how he fought or the three-headed ice-chucks from Cerberus the three headed ice dog) they had some kind of aesthetic similarity (Gilgamesh is scaly like Echidna; Lucifer makes swords and Berial used a sword). How does this boss tie into Hulk hands in any way? Do they give Dante a vomit attack?

My favorite was in the first game, where getting a new melee weapon meant getting stabbed in the chest or roasted alive.

Getting Alastor might be the best cutscene in the series.

# ¿ Dec 17, 2013 21:02

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Lotish posted:

That does make more sense, since he gets them after breaking the gates. I just thought the gates and the bosses were tied together. Makes explaining Pandora easier; otherwise I have to go with the rear end-pull that a giant frog that uses invisibility and literal angler-fish booby-traps is representative of a magic suitcase because they both hide their secret powers in an unassuming, harmless form.

Heh.

Of course, getting the guns in the first game could be pretty unexciting. They were usually just lying around the level.

Then again, most of them were just ordinary guns so it made some sense. Like finding the grenade launcher on the body of a dead soldier.

The giant vomit-bug demon giving you power fists? Less so.

# ¿ Dec 17, 2013 23:09

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Seer235 posted:

Man, there sure are a lot of riffs on that succubus cutscene. I guess I'll add in my personal favorite:

Dont�, el exterminador de demonios

I'm really having a hard time taking anything in this game seriously.

Why aren't we playing this version again? :allears:

# ¿ Dec 18, 2013 18:03

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

A flaw of the writing I think.

# ¿ Dec 20, 2013 18:35

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

I really hate how they treat Sparda in this game. And the whole Nephilim business. And how they don't really talk about what the gently caress angels do despite making angels a pseudo-plot point. And the Slurm factory sequence.

Also, everything else I've seen so far.

# ¿ Dec 20, 2013 22:42

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Pesky Splinter posted:

Funny enough, at one point, apropos of nothing, Tameem Antonides made the comment "Dante's not gay, but I wish he was - That would teach all those homophobes out there."

... What does that even mean?

# ¿ Dec 21, 2013 01:10

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Chaostime posted:

Which when you think about his mom, is sort of really creepy and hosed up.

Seems like Dante only wants to gently caress girls who dress up like his dead mom, even if he can't remember her.

It's not like Sexy Angels are all that rare. Nothing says that it has to be related to his mom. And Kat (who is probably the Love Interest) isn't related to angels at all, as far as I've seen.

This whole New Dante wants to gently caress his mother because he sleeps with fake angels thing is pretty silly. As stupidly juvenile as that photo was, I just don't see the connection to Dante's mom. And again, depending on your point of view, it could be considered a step up from Old Dante's Love Interest(?) actually looking like his mom (and he knew it too).

# ¿ Dec 21, 2013 03:31

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

That Alastor scene is probably my favorite in the series. The sword wasn't even important to the plot why did they give it such a cool cutscene. :allears:

Back to DmC though. Despite what we've seen so far, competent hands could turn New Dante into a decent character. From what I heard, they didn't manage it in this game. (still trying to keep an open mind though) Even so, I'm not averse to a sequel - provided it's an improvement. Does anyone else feel the same? What would you like to see in a sequel?

# ¿ Dec 21, 2013 08:42

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

My reaction to the car scene:

Nihilarian posted:

"I didn't ask for your help..." argh don't be a douche Dante just be thankf- "But I appreciate it."

... That wasn't supposed to happen!

So yeah, I might be a bit generous but for me that was probably the best cutscene so far. Not that that's saying much. I'm just shocked that Dante didn't fall into that particular pitfall.

# ¿ Jan 2, 2014 21:31

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Who's trying to defend Old Dante by calling him generic? That's stupid.

Humour is subjective. If you didn't find Old Dante funny well OK then. Most of the people in this thread disagree, I think.

I tend to prefer DMC 3 and DMC 4 Dante to DMC 1 or DMC 2.

About the only thing "Anime" about him is his white hair.

Finally, while this conversation improved my opinion of New Dante a notch, he still has a long way to go to win me over. He seems spiteful to anyone who isn't Kat or Vergil and he seems more juvenile than Old Dante at his hammiest.

# ¿ Jan 3, 2014 01:45

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Next-Jin Engine posted:

So if Dante's been established as a lovable goofball, how does Nero compare to new Dante, personality wise?

Nero is basically everything they wanted New Dante to be.

# ¿ Jan 3, 2014 05:07

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

NikkolasKing posted:

Oh i'm just going by initial expectations. Given his look and what I had heard of him, I expected someone with a very ominous, impressive voice. Not quite Tony Jay or James Earl Jones or anything but closer to them than what he had. Although I did like his voice. I liked his voice in this game too.

He's a white-haired bishounen sword-wielding half-demon. Which reminds me a lot of the first anime I ever watched and which was one of the most popular things around when DMC came out.

Not that Inuyasha and Dante have anything in common beyond the most superficial. Still, I don't think you can look at old Dante and NOT think it's a very typical Japanese design.

His personality though is obviously meant to cater to more Western audiences with his wannabe cowboy dialog in DMC3. I will never forget "WOOOOO I LOVE A FAST WOMAN!" to Lady. It makes me hurt inside.

Didn't he retain his 3 personality in 4? Honestly asking. Because it seems to me the obnoxious, mouthy Dante is the one everyone knows now.

Also all bad voice-acting discussions in regards tO DMC should include this.

Yeah. That is indeed one of the most terrible moments in an otherwise good game.

Back when I was a kid, I had no idea the game came from Japan. I also never made the connection to Inuyasha until you pointed it out. It's worth noting that Dante's iconic weapon is a straight sword, not curved, so he never seemed anime to me.

# ¿ Jan 3, 2014 05:38

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Testekill posted:

Oh yeah, Dante is supposed to be a loving goofy dweeb that nobody respects. If someone thinks that Dante is some badass that should be taken seriously then they must have been playing the second game.

Or the first game, though it's done much better there.

# ¿ Jan 3, 2014 06:32

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Even if you've already seen the cutscene? There's nothing wrong with skipping cut scenes, especially if you've already seen it.

# ¿ Jan 4, 2014 00:58

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

SectumSempra posted:

I really am trying with the Lp and I'm willing to give the game a go when its free.

The thing i still can't wrap my head around is all the different angles that people go to defend older dantes.

Saying everyone in dmc3 reacted to him a negative way?
Weren't there literally 3 people in the entire game?
Like I get the idea and what the point is saying, but two of the three want him dead and the third is doing the lone wolf thing herself.

Not just the people. The universe thinks Dante is a dork.

How many main characters have that mix of cockiness, dorkiness, humour, style and competence? It's pretty unique, and it works.

One of my favorite scenes is when a random mook steps on his pizza after he kills a room full of them. It's so petty it's hilarious.

Nihilarian fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Jan 4, 2014

# ¿ Jan 4, 2014 07:56

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

Neruz posted:

Aah its one of those kind of magitek eyes is it? The ones that have all kinds of undefined sciency analysis powers.

To be fair, at least this one has been demonstrably shown to take up like half his brain.

# ¿ Jan 9, 2014 21:03

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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 01:38

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

That's... a lot of Alastors. :stare:

Do you think he got stabbed by all of them?

# ¿ Jan 20, 2014 06:56

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