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Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

SilkyP posted:

I really like my states flag (ohio)



its not even shaped like a regular flag
You're talking about the OBAMA flag?? :tinfoil:

http://mediamatters.org/research/2008/10/16/radio-host-bob-grant-asserted-that-obama-create/145712

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Pneub
Mar 12, 2007

I'M THE DEVIL, AND I WILL WASH OVER THE EARTH AND THE SEAS WILL RUN RED WITH THE BLOOD OF ALL THE SINNERS

I AM REBORN

O bama
H e
I s
O verlord

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



Someone mentioned red bear flags earlier, and a google away I ended up on a site of gay bear flags. Totally innocently!

I like this one, the fur colored rainbow:


And the description on this is great, "Tierced per bend sinister: first quarter azure; second quarter tierced per bend sinister of argent, sable and bruin; third quarter vert, over the azure and argent a footprint dexter in pale or."



Didn't have enough? Here's a couple more:



Rocket Baby Dolls
Mar 3, 2006

Normally I don't make aesthetic criticisms in other peoples' homes, but that rug looks like a beaver exploded. If meat is murder, then that rug is at least a severe beating.
This thread got me searching for the coat of arms of my family. Welcome to the Fahey crest:



It's someone shoving a sword into the head of a dragon. Pretty bad-rear end!

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Snowy posted:

Someone mentioned red bear flags earlier, and a google away I ended up on a site of gay bear flags. Totally innocently!

I'm really surprised there isn't one based on California's there.

Anyway, I don't have a family coat of arms (I got a city name and its arms instead), but here's the arms of my most prominent ancestral family:

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Kopijeger posted:

No it doesn't. The idea that the name derives from "Bär" is folk etymology. The most likely origin of the name is Polabian "Berl" or "Birl", which means "marsh".

Then again, a vague and punny resemblance is usually enough for heraldry (ref. the bows and lions of the Bowes-Lyon family).

Falukorv
Jun 23, 2013

A funny little mouse!

Computer viking posted:

Then again, a vague and punny resemblance is usually enough for heraldry (ref. the bows and lions of the Bowes-Lyon family).

Or Leon (in Spain) being named after the latin legio (legion) because it was founded by Roman legionaires.



It's coat of arms would be so much cooler if it featured a legionnaire.



Two of my favorite coat of arms were the offical CoA of two now extinct Swedish municipalties. They were merged in the 1970's with other smaller municipalities, and sadly adopted the larger municpis coat of arms.


Högsjö, which had one of my favorite animals on it, and the stance and expression of the bird says it all.



Bjärtå, because ants.



Falukorv has a new favorite as of 15:41 on Dec 12, 2013

Saagonsa
Dec 29, 2012



This flag is wonderful to me, due to the fact that the background is appropriately majestic for the foreground.

Pope Hilarius II
Nov 10, 2008

Falukorv posted:

Or Leon (in Spain) being named after the latin legio (legion) because it was founded by Roman legionaires.

That doesn't seem right to me. The Latin for 'lion' is 'leo' and IIRC in turn derived from Greek, while the Latin for 'legion' is 'legio'. The two words don't have a common origin.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

the jizz taxi posted:

That doesn't seem right to me. The Latin for 'lion' is 'leo' and IIRC in turn derived from Greek, while the Latin for 'legion' is 'legio'. The two words don't have a common origin.

Well exactly. After a millennium or two, place names can drift quite far - and if it sounds like "lion" now that's more than good enough for whoever wanted a coat of arms for the place.

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


Rocket Baby Dolls posted:

This thread got me searching for the coat of arms of my family. Welcome to the Fahey crest:



It's someone shoving a sword into the head of a dragon. Pretty bad-rear end!

Pretty sure that's a boar.

Ofaloaf
Feb 15, 2013

American civil flags tend to be somewhat disappointing in general, but happily it turns out that every Roman Catholic diocese gets its own coat of arms, including American ones. Just compare the civil flags and Roman Catholic coats of arms, and weep that we all don't get to enjoy Catholic designs.

Dubuque, Iowa:



Cleveland, Ohio:



Milaukee, Wisconsin:

Arschlochkind
Mar 29, 2010

:stare:
Houston, Texas:



I didn't know about the coats of arms for Catholic diocese in the US, but that's pretty neat. Houston's is actually kind of close.

Rocket Baby Dolls
Mar 3, 2006

Normally I don't make aesthetic criticisms in other peoples' homes, but that rug looks like a beaver exploded. If meat is murder, then that rug is at least a severe beating.

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

Pretty sure that's a boar.

I thought so too originally, but then I found other variants:





But then there's another variant which resembles a boar:



But for now I'm going to pretend my ancestors were dragon slayers and not a bunch of boar poachers...

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Farecoal posted:

Orange Netherlands flag is better:



Looks more unique.

Here's a variant of that from the 80 years war:



The current flag with the red stripe is very difficult to distinguish from that of nearby Luxembourg, as illustrated by this poorly thought out commemorative national friendship pin made by the two nations:



Fun fact: The dye which was used for the orange in 17th Dutch flags was unstable, and after a period of exposure to sunlight faded to red. At some point it became too annoying to keep redying them and they just said gently caress it and left it red. With advances in dying technology it wouldn't be a problem to change it back to orange now if not for fascists embracing the orange-striped flag during WWII, and that flag now being associated with far-right nationalism. This causes controversy when representatives of the most far-right party of modern times have it hanging in their window:



Still, on national holidays an orange bit is tacked on:



Former Dutch colonies still often feature the color in their flags.

Flag of the Orange Free State (1857 - 1902):



Flag of South Africa (1928-1994):



Flag of New Netherland (1925 - 1664/1673, now New York):



Flag of Albany, New York:



Current flag of New York City (Changed in 1977 from showing 1664 to 1625 to reflect the granting of city rights instead of the conquering of the city by the English):



And hence the colors of the New York Knicks (who also happen to be named after Diederich Knickerbocker, a fictional Dutch historian invented by Washington Irving to narrate A History of New York, The Legend of Sleepy Hollow, and Rip van Winkle):



Speaking of Dutch flags, I've always liked the flag of Amsterdam:



No one really knows why it's like that. Maybe it's the crest of an important 12th century family. Maybe it was a medieval totem with three x's protecting against wind, water, and plague. Maybe it just looks cool.

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Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



I've noticed that people who don't speak Dutch are really bad at coming up with Dutch names that aren't (pseudo-)German.

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
Dutch people always get annoyed because they think Knickerbocker is a made up non-Dutch name, but Irving based it on the Knickerbocker family which lived in upstate New York, descended from Harmen Jansen Knickerbocker who was born in what is now the Dutch province of Overijssel

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Well I guess that makes sense, the eastern part of the Netherlands is basically pseudo-Germany anyway.

I really dislike the garish orange that the Dutch fly on national holidays, it's a hideous color, but the toned-down orange on the old flag looks alright. They should just reintroduce it already, instead of having red-white-blue flag #159.

made of bees
May 21, 2013
Yeah, red-white-blue should be reserved for evil empires and Norway.

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
The funny thing is, the whole reason the Dutch embraced the color so much was to show support for the Prince of Orange, who was descended from the lords of the Principality of Orange in southern France, who, despite the name of their land had no particular association with the color (as can be seen in their coat of arms):

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Phlegmish posted:

I've noticed that people who don't speak Dutch are really bad at coming up with Dutch names that aren't (pseudo-)German.

But Dutch is pseudo-German :confused:

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

(and can't post for 9 days!)

made of bees posted:

Yeah, red-white-blue should be reserved for evil empires and Norway.

Luxembourg weeps.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

Ofaloaf posted:

American civil flags tend to be somewhat disappointing in general, but happily it turns out that every Roman Catholic diocese gets its own coat of arms, including American ones. Just compare the civil flags and Roman Catholic coats of arms, and weep that we all don't get to enjoy Catholic designs.

Dubuque, Iowa:



Cleveland, Ohio:



Milaukee, Wisconsin:



Those are really cool. Some of them don't seem to have that much thought behind them, but some are pretty recognizable in interesting ways...









Pittsburgh, Phoenix, Detroit, New Orleans

Supeerme
Sep 13, 2010
As people are posting their family coat of arms I might as well post mine.


There are some variety like the 3 silver crescents in the black stripe but it's mostly the same.

Also this my county flag:

Ofaloaf
Feb 15, 2013

DarkCrawler posted:

Those are really cool. Some of them don't seem to have that much thought behind them, but some are pretty recognizable in interesting ways..
Of course, the best is



for the Diocese of Lansing. Get it? Two lances lancing a cross.

Dalax
Oct 27, 2007

twoday posted:


Speaking of Dutch flags, I've always liked the flag of Amsterdam:



No one really knows why it's like that. Maybe it's the crest of an important 12th century family. Maybe it was a medieval totem with three x's protecting against wind, water, and plague. Maybe it just looks cool.

Is this in any way connected to the fact that (in the 60's/70's UK at least) porn films were triple x rated because all the good filth came from Holland?

I'm completely speculating here and have done no research into the subject whatsoever, honest.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Supeerme posted:

As people are posting their family coat of arms I might as well post mine.


There are some variety like the 3 silver crescents in the black stripe but it's mostly the same.

Are you black? Or from corsica? and if not, do you know why there are black people on your family crest?

Lobster God
Nov 5, 2008

ekuNNN posted:

Are you black? Or from corsica? and if not, do you know why there are black people on your family crest?

They're black moors, geddit?

Caufman
May 7, 2007
There's a black dude on Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI's coat of arms, too.



Black dudes and bears. I'll never get Europe's obsession with the two.

made of bees
May 21, 2013
I thought it was supposed to be a severed head, and symbolized that you had an ancestor who killed a bunch of muslims.

AdorableStar
Jul 13, 2013

:patriot:


carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Grew up here and the flags are about the only redeeming quality.




Also that Provo flag is amazing because there's no way it wasn't made in PowerPoint.

AdorableStar
Jul 13, 2013

:patriot:


For anyone who played Erepublik, I was a member of Phoenix a few years back; I kind of miss the wallpaper I used to be able to find, but their logo was always nice. I think this counts as something I can post.

Nckdictator
Sep 8, 2006
Just..someone


Kingdom of the Two Sicilies




The Central African Empire.

I can't help but like both.

Penny Paper
Dec 31, 2012

carry on then posted:

Grew up here and the flags are about the only redeeming quality.




Also that Provo flag is amazing because there's no way it wasn't made in PowerPoint.

I was thinking it was made on Word 2003 (because I actually remember doing stuff like that when I was first taught Microsoft Word in school).

Penny Paper has a new favorite as of 07:05 on Dec 15, 2013

Ratoslov
Feb 15, 2012

Now prepare yourselves! You're the guests of honor at the Greatest Kung Fu Cannibal BBQ Ever!

DarkCrawler posted:

Those are really cool. Some of them don't seem to have that much thought behind them, but some are pretty recognizable in interesting ways...



Boise's. An embattled line across a tree. Embattled means a city or town. Because it's the City of Trees. :effort:

I'd still rather have it on my stuff than any other piece of vexillography from the state, and I'm not even Catholic.

woody point
Nov 6, 2013

by XyloJW

All on Black
Dec 14, 2007

She's not "that Mexican", Mom, she's MY Mexican. And she's...Colombian or something.

Gay Australia?

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

The original version of the flag had 8 stripes.



Can't say which I like better.

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E4C85D38
Feb 7, 2010

Doesn't that thing only
hold six rounds...?

Snowy posted:

And the description on this is great, "Tierced per bend sinister: first quarter azure; second quarter tierced per bend sinister of argent, sable and bruin; third quarter vert, over the azure and argent a footprint dexter in pale or."

This is fairly standard heraldic language. Each coat of arms/flags/heraldic device has a "blazon" that, in theory, unambiguously describes it. Within what it describes, the artist is free to render it how they like. It's not uncommon for people to consider the blazon the "real" coat of arms and any display of it an artistic interpretation.

This can be quite simple, for instance:

quote:

Azure, a bend Or.
"Azure" describes the color of the field (blue) and 'a bend Or' describes its principle charge, a diagonal stripe from the upper left to the lower right (bend) colored gold (Or).



It can get a little unwieldy with larger devices. For instance, Hungary in 1867:

quote:

Quarterly, I azure, three lions' heads affrontés crowned Or (for Dalmatia); II chequy gules and argent (for Croatia); III azure, a river in fess gules bordered argent thereupon a marten proper beneath a six-pointed star Or (for Slavonia); IV per fess azure and Or, overall a bar gules in the chief a demi-eagle sable displayed addextré of the sun in splendour and senestré of a crescent argent in the base seven towers three and four gules (for Transylvania); enté en point gules, a double-headed eagle proper on a peninsula vert holding a vase pouring water into the sea argent beneath a crown proper with bands azure (for Fiume); overall an escutcheon barry of eight gules and argent impaling gules, on a mount vert a crown Or issuant therefrom a double cross argent (for Hungary).

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