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Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!
So after watching s2e1 I've gone back and gotten through 7 of season 1 and this show is amazing.


Season 1 Episode 7 Jinho you magnificent bastard! The look on everybody's faces as they realized what was happening was priceless.

Oh and on the topic of people who should be on this show, I think Firebathero would be amazing on this.

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Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!
Am I the only one that thinks Gyul is too strong in the Hap/Gyul game? I honestly think it should only be worth one point.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!
Alternatively don't make it American, but make it British and get the best of the panel show regulars, plus maybe some other out there invites.

Zythrst fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Dec 24, 2013

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!
Great episode, in fact I'm even starting to like Junghyun now. I do agree that both games weren't the strongest this week, but it still allowed Jinho and Yoonsun to be awesome this week. Especially liked Jinho's rightous anger speech.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!
I really think Junghyun is our best hope for defecting from that group as he's seems like a genuinely good person and didn't like what was going on despite it being his team doing it.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

Random Stranger posted:

Enough drama chat, let's talk game tactics!

At first my thought was that in the early game you should offer to trade people for any cards that they only have one of since this would maximize the chances of reducing the total number of resources that you have. Then it occurred to me that the exact opposite strategy was better. A monopoly requires all of the cards and there's eight types of cards. You should be trying to get rid of your duplicates and have only one of each type of resource (though you can still say you're doing the first to encourage trading with the other players). Acting early before factions get too solid of a chance to organize is important. Refuse to let go of the bomb at all costs. Once you have all eight resources you get to be king maker and find the best deal for yourself with a trustworthy player (not Sangmin). As long as you're not a colossal dick about it and as long as you don't give away the bomb you should be able to avoid the deathmatch and make a nice garnet profit.

You would go to the deahtmatch though unless I'm missing something since all your cards would be different except two?

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!
Welp I'm on the anyone but Jiwon train now. I actually don't think Junghyun is that bad though clearly Sangmin is an overwhelming favorite with his avantages right now. One thing though about the death match that irritated me was having the pot ride on a tie. I mean what is that poo poo, is splitting the pot too difficult for the dealers or what? Why did they put that in, to save time or something? I mean yeah it ended up dramatic and tense and all, but putting it in the "the hands of God!" isn't what I tune in for.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!
Strategy- There is litterly 100% no way that Jinho can fold there. Its a total freeroll and he can't just give up 7% of chips to fold against a possible tie. It was also the proper move by Jiwon given his abilities vs Jinho's. It was the dumb let it ride rule that was hosed up and only that.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

Yeah, personally I don't begrudge or cast doubt on Sangmin doing as well as he has. But seeing that dogfaced piece of poo poo Jiwon take out Jinho was just the breaking point, and every week that idiotic scumbag remains on the show just makes a mockery out of the show's title and premise.

Well hey just consider this. There is probably a decent shot that Jiwon will have to face Doohee again, but with Doohee having power. So that's a reason to keep watching if nothing else.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!
Junghyun fighting! Great strategy for the deathmatch, the only thing that would have made it better I think is, that you keep picking the same tile that other guys just picked, not just any tile they've picked. I think that way it gives more opportunity for your opponent to forgett what letters they've already chosen.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

Fast Luck posted:

Yohwan is a bit strange. Like, when Junghyun's partner was running the auction, Yohwan offered his cube for 1, and Junghyun's partner managed to rack up a big score. Makes sense, he and Junghyun were allies, and the idea was they'd both help each other's team out like that, and the two of them would be at the top competing for the win.

But then when the blues came up he kept undercutting Junghyun by 1. Junghyun didn't understand why he was doing that and neither did I. It reminds me so much of the number block auction when Yohwan was working with Jiwon, but then took a high number right near Jiwon's, and either then or later, I forget, took in the pot when he was supposed to send it around again.

But he's not just being selfish, because he's making big sacrifices like bidding 1 with his color or like paying everyone off extremely in the block auction to try to keep it going around and work their strategy. I'm not sure if it's just his cheap nature leaking through in small ways, and thus blowing his alliances, or if he had actual reasons for those things that he just wasn't explaining.

Anyway, it's been pretty sad seeing him sitting there with 0 garnets for like the last 3 episodes. When he threw the game over to Sangmin and came in last himself, holy poo poo he would've been screwed in Indian Poker with no garnets. As much as they made it look like Sangmin had planned to help Yohwan with the immortality token all along, the fact that he was sitting there with 0 garnets definitely makes him more inviting to protect and bring along to the end. Smart play throwing the win to Sangmin though. If Sangmin didn't have immunity I doubt he would've given up that token.

Also, drat, Sangmin just lost 10 garnets by sharing them with Jiwon to make the Indian Poker more fair. That's a lot of garnets. And am I wrong or does Junghyun also owe Sangmin 3 garnets that he's just not paying back? Maybe he will now that he won so many... But that's kind of annoying me even though I like Junghyun for the most part. Either him or Sangmin would be a worthy winner, not so sure about Yohwan.


I'm pretty sure he paid them back at the start of this episode. They talk about it and Junghyun takes them out, they don't show the actual exchange, but when Super Junior comes out there are 3 garnets on the table in front of Sangmin.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

Raeg posted:

Finally managed to spent a day to catch up on eps 6-10 (Jesus, ep 6 was a mixture of comedy excellence and complete pain). It has been interesting that really, this seasons seems to be more about certain players schemes completely imploding and handing off a default win a lot of the time but really, Sangmin really has shown himself just amazingly adapt at the social aspect of the game. At first I was starting the think along the lines of producers rigging scenarios in his favour but really, he has just had the right role when others around him have been running around like headless chickens and things lined up nicely.

I mean, it's the same as the safe situation, I imagine there would have been more obvious clues to the combination of the lock as the weeks progressed if ole BoxeR didn't lead him right to the safe there'd be no guarantee he'd have been a teflon Don for weeks afer.

Junghyun has greatly amused me but at the same time, he's kind of built up an excellent Death Match rep at this point just with how he holds his nerve. Purely because of his Death Match streak, I want to guy to win at this point but I would certainly not begrudge Sangmin win.

Yeah he also has the chill goofy dad vibe that I can't help but love.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

redreader posted:

This show WAS called rule breaker, and Yohwan broke all the rules to be the worst game player and still ruled in the deathmatches. He'll definitely beat Sangmin in the finals. I don't think he's good though, he's just a cheap motherfucker. He's good at deathmatches but he just seems like a slimy, lying, cheating rear end in a top hat. Second worst person on the show, after Jiwon. The maths professor from ep 1 was pretty bad but didn't do anything terrible enough to make me dislike him. I'm just sad that my favourite was taken down in this episode, which I honestly didn't think would happen so badly. That was a pretty full-on beating that Jhungyun received. The thing is though, there seem to be multiple reasons to play: there's winning and gaining popularity for other shows/etc in the future. I don't think he's getting much popularity out of this.

I'm not sure how you figure those adjitives don't apply to Sangmin, he's just better at it. Though really Yohwan he's just been bad at main games, I havn't seen anything that I'd call a real moral failing like Jiwon and Yooyoung perpitrated.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!
I think she does that in case the producers of the Genius decide they can't stand the episodes being available with subs and get a takedown on youtube.

edit- beaten like Jinho in a starcraft final

Zythrst fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Feb 26, 2014

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!
Good finals, the only thing I missed was I was hoping that there would be a scene at the end of an envelope arriving to Bisu or somebody.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!
Hey Shakugan thats kind of spoilery. Anyway the question I thought of after hearing the rules was is the sum of your digits equal to or under 18 y/n.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

Fast Luck posted:

So little Moby music lately! First game was good, they had an opportunity to use the music when they revealed Yohwan's counting with the chips. Is that a well-known poker player's trick or did Yohwan come up with that?

Second game was very good. I loved when Yohwan's ramshackle way of asking questions started closing in on the answer, and everyone was like ahh what the gently caress? And good that Sangmin won because his system was strong.

Third game was kinda ehh. It had a tense ending but Quattro is like 90% luck I feel like. I actually thought Yohwan was gonna win based off Yoonsun's expression after she gave the card, guess I can't read people that well...

Sangmin was better than Yohwan, so it was a strong finish with a good result, even though Quattro left me a little wanting. Overall, a huge step down from season 1 but it finished pretty strong.


The counting trick might be from something, but its not usefull in casino poker where counting cards is pointless since the deck gets shuffled after every hand.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

MisterZimbu posted:

In good news, from what I can tell it looks like The Genius format has been sold to The Netherlands:

http://www.bothersbar.co.uk/?p=7937

Be pretty cool if the show could get picked up in more countries.

Yeah if that one is a hit, you'd think an english version wouldn't be too far behind.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

Shakugan posted:

I just hope they don't copy the games we've already seen in the Korean version. There's a tendency to do this in some reality shows (e.g. international versions of Amazing Race and Survivor replicating tasks from the US version), but this is a show where the enjoyment for those who've seen the games already would be much lower (primarily for those games that have "tricks" that we've already seen discovered).

Well yeah that would be stupid, not for the reason you state(because how much of the audience could really be Korean tv viewers), but rather that some of the contestants are bound to check out the Korean version, just to see what its like.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!
Are they really going to have 10 episodes of this one crime?

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

Knives and Hot Dust posted:

What would be a possible motive for the driver and daughter?

Yeah the driver only makes sense if he killed on another supsects behalf.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!
They havn't said what the ultimate pize is, unless those are litterly gold coins and they get to keept them, which would own. I kind of doubt it though, because that would be a pretty giant prize given how many there were.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!
I like this show a lot though in light of how this played out it seems to me, that if somebody had spent the entire time searching the daughters room, they'd have found the raincoat which along with everything else would have been completely damning. So in future episodes wouldn't it make sense for the team to divide up rooms to search exclusively during the evidence gathering phase? I mean nobody would be assigned a room they are associated with so even the guilty party would have no reason to withhold evidence.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

Superrodan posted:

The raincoat was just a raincoat with holes in it though, since the blood had been washed off. It could have easily been explained as "I used it as a costume once" or something.

I hope Henry starts to actually play like a real person instead of a wacky comedian... or whatever the hell he was trying to accomplish.

Yeah I just meant there would have been a pretty heavy evidence load in that direction, I mean it almost went the other way with what they already had. As far as Henry I don't know why people think the producers don't want him acting this way. Beside his interactions with others have been great.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!
I think Henry wasn't so bad this time, at least some of his questions durring the back and forth were pertinent.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!
Maybe Henry is playing the long game, you ever think of that? If he keeps acting goofy, then nobody will notice when he's not helpfull when he's the criminal. ;)

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!
I really hope it isn't as a player. It will just be everbody ganging up on him until he gets eliminated.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!
About the next time previews Don't kill Sangmin!

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

Chainsawdomy posted:

Honestly the whole button thing seemed so contrived that I thought John had fabricated it, and it convinced me he was somehow the killer despite any real evidence. I assumed he'd just pulled a button off his own clothes and 'found it' in the water. I guess that would be against the rules, though?

That's actually one thing this case did way better than the first: make it clear how much information is provided to the suspects on their character. With the first case I had a hard time judging anyone's testimony because I was never sure if they were just improvising responses without any real basis.

Yeah its pretty unclear how gamey you can be in this.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

BSam posted:

No episode quite yet, but this is some awesome news, new upcoming guest.

https://twitter.com/Bumdidlyump/status/476523416540164096

This is great! A game like this plays up Sunggyu's strengths especially if he's the killer

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!
I really like the detective, and think it would be cool if they just let him play for real.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!
Good stuff, I wasn't swayed by the crying, because I felt she could have been crying genuinely even if she was guilty. On the other hand, I sort of felt throughout that the evidence against the secretary was almost too good, and kept expecting something a little more damning to show up for another character. I mean come on guys motive is all well with the security guard, but opportunity is kind of a big one to overlook. ;)

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

Dragonatrix posted:

I got it right too, albeit only just. When she started crying I very nearly considered the employee lady instead and couldn't make up my mind between them for the longest time. The glut of evidence for the secretary beforehand was what kept me from completely disregarding her, though. The hairpin that was found by Hyunmoo near the end, and the venn diagram sealed it, yeah.

Surprised so many people voted for Jinho at the end though.


It's not really suprising when the detective did it a few other were like 'welp', trust an expert.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

Symbolic Butt posted:

Jinho was so hilariously bad this episode, goddamn.

I don't see how. He figured out who the killer was, and managed to completely sway Yoonji and nearly convince Sunggyu. It's not his fault that the Lawyer and Hyunmoo were being dense about the lifer having no opportunity. I mean seriously how was he even supposed to know where the victim would be?

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

Tonfa posted:

I adore the effort that went into the sudden format change. Felt the setting was weaker than the other mysteries though, the guests weren't that great either. I was expecting Sunggyu to have more presence.

He was kind of like that on The Genius to start out, I think he needs to settle into a comfort zone with a program before he's effective.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

Fast Luck posted:

That episode was the funniest one to date. It had some of what I liked about Genius season 1 with everyone just laughing and having such a good time.

Every single time the TV thing buzzed that special guest woman jumped a mile, and I cracked up.
Then Jinho saying, "When I was in here (interrogation room), Delivery Kang, that weird bastard, found some medicine," which also made me laugh, along with the call with the daughter when Jinho said, "Come back home and meet your mom." Hahaha pretty funny. And, of course, this:


Jinho didn't really put together a good case against anyone else which is what wrapped this one so convincingly so quickly. He needed to focus in on the Administrator or the housemaid instead of Beauty Park, since there was no way for Beauty Park to have done it. He must have known going in how he'd done the murder (switched the prescription) so he should have already had in mind who else he could pin that on and how to do it. The constantly frightened guest player made a better case for the housemaid than Jinho did.

The problem is that the Administrator had no motive once the method of death was found since the firing had only occurred on the day and the murdering began a week prior. So once they figured that out the doctor was the only one who had motive and opportunity. I think Jinho was probably right to try for Beauty Parks, because she was clearly insane and that she was the one suspected originally by many and some people get fixated on the first impression. Really though I think Jinho was just screwed in this one, should have picked the chicken delivery man

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!
Ah Hyunmoo, he may be a bad detective, but he is an awesome criminal.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

Symbolic Butt posted:


His long term strategy of acting phony in every episode finally paid off! :v:

Actually I think his briefing was exceptionally great, so maybe that should've looked a bit more suspicious...

Lawyer also is kind of set up nicely if he gets to be the criminal, because he has precident for being in the backround and focusing on one player.

Zythrst fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Jul 10, 2014

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

Cute n Popular posted:

Jun Hyun Moo and Park Ji Yoon from Crime Scene would make a great addition to The Genius S3 cast. Sunggyu could make a comeback a long with Henry.

I wouldn't mind Yoonji either, she's pretty funny with Hyunmoo and Jinho.

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Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

Fast Luck posted:

The chicken delivery guy was the funniest, biggest non-role ever. Haha. I think it would have been fun on the show to start building a case against the chicken delivery guy just for the hell of it.

I wonder if he had some suspicious stuff in his dossier, but they just had no reason to ever question him closely.

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