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IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

Did Fall Brawl get cancelled?

# ? Feb 27, 2014 22:24

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NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

Hulk Hogan went on a rampage and killed a couple of people.

# ? Feb 27, 2014 22:36

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

NutritiousSnack posted:

Hulk Hogan went on a rampage and killed a couple of people.

I heard he got a stern warning afterwards and said "It'll never happen again, brother" while stuffing a wad of hundreds in his back pocket.

# ? Feb 27, 2014 23:55

Evil Badman: Aug 19, 2006; Skills include:
EIGHT-FOOT VERTICAL LEAP

We were having a discussion about rebranding it as the Autumnal Arsenal, in honor of Arn Anderson.

EDIT: Someone should start a prediction game for each PPV for the viewers. Here's Fall Brawl's card:

Q7kid posted:

FALL BRAWL 1996 CONTROL CENTER

Join us live in Winston-Salem, NC this Sunday for the following line-up of excellent matches!

HORSEMEN VS. HORSEMEN IN THE MATCH BEYOND, BUT WILL STING RIDE?
War Games Match
The New Horsemen (Arn Anderson, Chris Benoit, Kevin Nash, and Scott Hall) vs. The Four Horsemen (Ric Flair, Lex Luger, and Barry Windham) and Sting

TO TURN BACK A NEW CHALLENGER, A DELUDED FALLEN HERO MUST EMBRACE HIS DARK SIDE
AWA World Heavyweight ("Hulkamania") Championship Match
Hulk Hogan (c) vs. Rick Steiner

A JEALOUS EGOTIST MEETS A MAN HELL-BENT ON REVENGE IN A FIGHT TO THE FINISH
Last Man Standing Match
Scott Steiner vs. "Macho Man" Randy Savage

CAN A FORMER CHAMPION RECLAIM PAST GLORY WITH A NEW PARTNER?
WCW World Tag Team Championship
James + James (c) vs. Road Warrior Hawk and a mystery partner

A MOTIVATED CHAMPION; A WOUNDED GIANT; A CHAMPIONSHIP IN THE BALANCE
WCW United States Championship
Ron Simmons (c) vs. The Giant

CAN A YOUNG UPSTART PROVE HE HAS THE STUFF TO DOWN A DOMINANT CHAMPION?
WCW Television Championship
King Steven Regal (c) vs. Marcus Bagwell

SIX MEN LOOK TO PUT THEMSELVES IN LINE FOR A TITLE, BUT THE CHAMPION WILL DETERMINE THEIR FATE
Six-Pack Match for Number-One Contendership to the WCW Cruiserweight Championship with Special Guest Referee El Hijo del Santo
Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Ultimo Dragon vs. Psicosis vs. Dean Malenko vs. La Parka vs. Juventud Guerrera

OLD GRUDGES, NEW SET OF RULES
Six-Man Tag Team Match - Raven's Rules
Raven's Flock (Raven, Perry Saturn, and Billy Kidman) vs. Team X-Treme (Too Cold Scorpio, Sabu, and Rob Van Dam)

A COCKY NEWCOMER LOOKS TO FEND OFF A SHARK ATTACK
Kid Rock vs. The Shark

A SURGING YOUNG TEAM MUST FACE AN INQUISITION
The Thrillseekers vs. The Knights Templar

CALL YOUR LOCAL CABLE PROVIDER!

Evil Badman fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Feb 28, 2014

# ? Feb 28, 2014 01:00

I Before E: Jul 2, 2012

Evil Badman posted:

EDIT: Someone should start a prediction game for each PPV for the viewers. Here's Fall Brawl's card:

War Games Match
The New Horsemen (Arn Anderson, Chris Benoit, Kevin Nash, and Scott Hall) vs. The Four Horsemen (Ric Flair, Lex Luger, and Barry Windham) and Sting
AWA World Heavyweight ("Hulkamania") Championship Match
Hulk Hogan (c) vs. Rick Steiner
Last Man Standing Match
Scott Steiner vs. "Macho Man" Randy Savage
WCW World Tag Team Championship
James + James (c) vs. Road Warrior Hawk and Giant Baba
WCW United States Championship
Ron Simmons (c) vs. The Giant
WCW Television Championship
King Steven Regal (c) vs. Marcus Bagwell
Six-Pack Match for Number-One Contendership to the WCW Cruiserweight Championship with Special Guest Referee El Hijo del Santo
Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Ultimo Dragon vs. Psicosis vs. Dean Malenko vs. La Parka vs. Juventud Guerrera
Six-Man Tag Team Match - Raven's Rules
Raven's Flock (Raven, Perry Saturn, and Billy Kidman) vs. Team X-Treme (Too Cold Scorpio, Sabu, and Rob Van Dam)
Kid Rock vs. The Shark
The Thrillseekers vs. The Knights Templar

E: hey, only missed 2!

I Before E fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Feb 28, 2014

# ? Feb 28, 2014 01:24

Edward Mass: Sep 14, 2011; 𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
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wergeck.net posted:

Live results for Fall Brawl '96, from Lawrence Joel Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Winston-Salem, NC.

DARK MATCH: Kevin Sullivan, Evad Sullivan, Kimo, and Ekmo (with Eric Bischoff) defeat "Hardwork" Bobby Walker, Joey Maggs, Steve Armstrong, and Taka Michinoku when Kevin hits a double footstomp on Michinoku. The heel team--well, the heels and Evad, who seems generally oblivious and pleasant--dominates. Kimo was really off his game, and Kevin Sullivan needs to freshen up his gimmick.

DARK MATCH: The Navigators defeat "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan and Disco Inferno when DJ Gorgeous pins Disco after the Most Excellent Kicks Mix. Duggan was really off his game.

DARK MATCH: Meng defeats Konnan with a Tongan Death Grip.

Announcers run down the card: War Games! Last Man Standing! Darkside Hogan! Who IS Hawk's mystery partner? Welcome to Fall Brawl!

Dean Malenko defeats Rey Misterio, Jr., La Parka, Ultimo Dragon, Psicosis, and Juventud Guerrera with El Hijo del Santo as guest referee. The luchadors put on a stunning show of pyrotechnic offense with Rey, Ultimo, and Juventud launching their competitors out of the ring. Malenko is rebuffed again and again as his technical style clashes with the chaos in the ring. He finally retreats to the ramp, shouting about "all the drat masks." Later, an Ultimo Dragon Asai Moonsault to the floor takes out all his competition except Malenko, who capitalizes by throwing Dragon in and applying the Texas Cloverleaf; Dragon can't escape, and El Hijo del Santo does the honorable thing and calls for the bell following the tap-out. Santo raises Malenko's arm, but Malenko ambushes him and attempts to steal his mask again.

Kid Rock defeats the Shark (with Jimmy Hart) with the Bullgod. Kid Rock plays stick and move with Shark, wearing him down with kicks enough over time. While Shark does occasionally manage to land a massive blow that sends Kid flying like a rag doll, he just can't seem to get any kind of serious hurt on, and every attempt to hit the Shark Bomb gets reversed or avoided. Finally Kid nails a monster kick to the temple that leaves Shark dead on his feet, setting him up for the Bullgod. The high-flying moves makes the big man crash like a ton of bricks for an easy pin. Kid Rock was off his game. After the match, Jimmy Hart brings out Hugh Morrus to attack Kid Rock. Kid Rock manages to beat him up. However, Jimmy Hart's next call-out, Meng successfully beats down Kid Rock. The Public Enemy make the save.

King Steven Regal defeats Marcus Bagwell with the Union Jack to retain the WCW Television Championship. Bagwell puts up a good fight, and nearly gets the pin with a fisherman suplex, but Regal makes it up with a mix of solid technical wrestling and hard-hitting strikes. He finally gets the W after moving out of the way of the Bagwell Blockbuster. As Bagwell crawls to his feet, Regal puts him down with Blackpool's meanest knee.

Hulk Hogan gives a backstage promo on Rick Steiner, talking about how he has given himself over to the darkness to keep his Hulkamania Title. He knows something Steiner doesn't know... so come hell or high water, he will drag Rick Steiner down with him.

The Thrillseekers defeat the Knights Templar (with Brigadier Bobby Eaton) when Cage hits Dennis Knight with the Showstealer.

Dusty Rhodes interviews Rick Steiner about Hogan. Steiner is blunt: Hogan can wear whatever he wants. Black, yellow, red, Day-Glo green or fuchsia. No costume change is gonna save him from the Dog-Faced Gremlin.

Ron Simmons defeats The Giant by referee stoppage to retain the United States Championship when Giant loses consciousness after hitting a chokeslam. Giant comes in seeming motivated after the attack by Simmons on Nitro, but his focus and dominance degrade over the course of the contest as Simmons focuses stiff shots on Giant's injured head. At the climax, Giant hits the chokeslam, but collapses before he can make the cover, forcing the referee to call for the bell out of fear for Giant's safety.

Road Warrior Hawk comes out to the stage with a mic to introduce his tag partner: "Wellllllll, I petitioned Commissioner Curt Hennig for a mystery partner tonight, and I was surprised by what he said! Because tonight, my partner in this tag team title match is...Commissioner Curt Hennig!" Sure enough, the Commissioner himself emerges in his traditional blue-and-black singlet, chomping gum, holding a towel, smirking. Curt Hennig is returning to action!

Road Warrior Hawk and Curt Hennig defeat James + James to win the WCW Tag Team Championship when Hennig uses the Hennig-Plex on Maritato. James + James, seemingly taking this title match very seriously, are gimmickless for the evening and throw everything they've got at the challengers, but they seem dumbstruck by Hennig's involvement throughout the match--he's too fast, too powerful, too technically savvy, and too much of an unknown for the champs, which proves to be insurmountable for them.

Dusty Rhodes interviews Raven, Perry Saturn, and Billy Kidman about their upcoming contest with Team X-Treme. A referee stands nearby, which Dusty notes, leading him to ask flat-out: what are Raven's Rules? Raven explains that his "rules" are lawlessness given form, with no disqualifications and falls counting anywhere in the building, but the bout not needing to begin in the ring. The three members of Team X-Treme suddenly attack; Scorpio turns to Dusty and remarks, "Don't need to start in the ring, huh? Good to know." He immediately goes for a pinfall. I guess our Raven's Rules match is on! Raven and Saturn were great, but Kidman....YECH!

Team X-Treme (Sabu, Rob Van Dam, and Too Cold Scorpio), accompanied by Bill Alfonso, defeat Raven's Flock (Raven, Perry Saturn, and Billy Kidman), accompanied by Madusa, in a Raven's Rules Match. After fighting out to the ringside area, the brutality begins to ramp up; big spots include Raven hitting Van Dam repeatedly with a kendo stick and Sabu hitting an Arabian Facebuster with a chair on Perry Saturn. The finish comes when Scorpio hits a 450 Splash on Kidman through a table for the pinfall.

Raven, seemingly blaming Kidman for the loss, hits the Evenflow on Kidman post-match. When Saturn goes to pick him up and carry him to the back, Raven stops him and simply beckons him to follow--they leave without Kidman. Madusa, after a brief moment's conflict, shrugs it off, following Raven. Crowd did not care one bit.

Backstage, Arn Anderson congratulates Curt Hennig on his tag title win. "After all, it takes a lot of courage to step into the ring. I mean, almost anything can happen when you're a wrestler. Broken bones, internal bleeding. Heck, you could be crippled for life... or worse. Especially if there's someone out there with a grudge against you." Hennig reminds Anderson that he's still the Commissioner, and "...as commisioner, I just wanted to remind you. You DID stipulate that if the Four Horsemen win tonight they get an open title shot. And I intend to hold you to it. So maybe you should choose your words more carefully. Or you might find yourself fighting a battle on two fronts."

Randy Savage cuts a promo backstage. "Steiner, our little war is about to come to it's climax. I never wanted this battle. But as your mind has warped, your need for it has grown and festered like a tumor. Now our path can no longer be altered. At the end of this match, one of us will be the better man. One of us will stand tall. And no matter how obsessed you are, no matter how badly you seek this fight, no matter what kind of fury you bring to bear, The Macho Man will never run! Never shrink from a challenge! And he will not allow your reign of terror to go unchecked! YOU MAY BE INSANE WITH RAGE SCOTT STEINER, BUT NOW YOU FACE THE WRATH... OF MACHO MADNESS! OH YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!" Savage looked great.

Scott Steiner and "Macho Man" Randy Savage then had their Last Man Standing Match. Steiner and Savage immediately resume their wild brawling from recent weeks, fighting around the ring and into the crowd. Steiner seems eager to get a ten-count and often instructs the referee to begin counting Savage out, while winning the match appears to be the farthest thing from Savage's mind, as he shoves the referee aside to drag Steiner back up on more than one occasion. Steiner hits a variety of power moves and big suplexes to ground Savage, but Savage shows veteran cunning by taking advantage of the no-holds-barred nature of the contest to retake momentum, using low blows and weapon attacks. The climax sees Savage hit two consecutive flying axehandles for an eight-count; he hits a big bodyslam, then signals for the end. Heading up top for the flying elbow, he plays to the crowd and prepares to leap, but finds himself shoved off the turnbuckle...by Terry "Bam Bam" Gordy! Gordy hits a big backdrop driver on Savage on the floor; in the ring, Steiner directs the referee to count. At nine, Savage stumbles to his feet...and is leveled with a huge lariat from Gordy. Gordy proceeds to roll Savage into the ring. Scott Steiner, totally in the driver's seat, hoists Savage to the top turnbuckle, and nails a HUGE top-rope Frankensteiner! Steiner leans into the corner as he awaits the ref's count again...and Savage, incredibly, groggily returns to his feet just shy of the ten-count! Steiner, enraged, waves his arms in front of him as if to say "that's it." Grabbing Savage, he lifts him up...and drills him with the Steiner Screwdriver! Stepping back to give the referee room to render his ten-count, Steiner glowers down at Savage's limp form victoriously as the referee reaches ten. Scott Steiner, with help from Terry "Bam Bam" Gordy, has defeated the "Macho Man" Randy Savage.

Terry Gordy continues the beatdown on Savage, hitting another backdrop driver. Suddenly, a dark-haired man wanders out, shouting at Gordy and pointing frantically at Savage, telling him to level the Macho Man again. As Gordy drags Savage up, Jesse Ventura recognizes the apparent orchestrator of this attack: Lanny Poffo, Randy Savage's own brother! Gordy hits a huge power bomb on Savage, and Poffo, with the world's biggest grin, raises Gordy's arm over Savage's fallen body. Randy Savage needs a change in character, and soon.

Our next match was Hulk Hogan vs. Rick Steiner for the AWA World Heavyweight Championship. Hogan, clad in black, seems a little more deliberate and "traditionally" cruel than usual, rather than simply self-absorbed and obnoxious. Accordingly, he keeps the pace slow and controls the early part of the match. Rick, however, proves himself game, using big Steinerlines and suplexes to keep Hogan on the ropes. During the match, Scott Steiner, in street clothes, wanders out, which the commentators note must be to support his brother. Rick seems energized by Scott's presence, and really begins to take over on Hogan, leading to a flying bulldog! When going for the cover, however, Hogan kicks out, then Hulks Up...before Flair-flopping back to the canvas, forcing him to roll out to the floor to recoup instead. Rick follows, hitting a huge belly-to-belly, then barks to the crowd triumphantly, totally in control. Scott claps his hands, then tells Rick to roll him back in; Rick complies, and Hogan starts grabbing desperately at the referee's pant-legs, looking for anything to stem the assault. As Rick prepares to re-enter the ring, however, Scott suddenly springs into action, pulling a pipe from his inner jacket pocket and hitting his brother in the leg! Rick screams in pain, looking at Scott, unable to understand what has transpired. Scott glares down unmoved, and hits him in the leg with the pipe three more times. Distracted, the referee sees none of this, not even when Scott throws Rick back into the ring. Clearly injured but unwilling to give up, Rick staggers to his feet on one leg as Hogan returns to a standing position as well. Rick awkwardly rushes towards Hogan...and runs right into a big boot. Hogan follows with the legdrop, and that's enough. Hogan retains...but why has Scott Steiner screwed over his brother?

It's finally time for the main event: WarGames! The match begins with Kevin Nash making his way to the cage to the sound of Arn Anderson's (and the New Horsemen's) theme, the harsh rasp of the percussion and the lower octaves on the guitar adding the usual menace to his imposing 7-foot form. As he takes a moment to inspect the two rings and the chain links, testing how solid everything is, the crowd is greeted by a sound not heard since Arn took over: the tramping of hooves and the whiny of a wild stallion. Lex Luger appears at the top of the ramp using the original Horsemen theme, playing to the crowd as the gentle beat of the snare drum and the high rising riffs add a certain heroic feeling to the moment. The commentators take note of Luger's choice, and mention that this truly is Horsemen vs Horsemen, and a match that could change WCW forever.

The bell rings to kick off the initial 5 minute period, and Luger and Nash immediately lock up. The two powerhouses of their respective teams refuse to give an inch of ground to each other, and break away, leading to a thunderous exchange of blows. Again, the two seem evenly matched. Nash, deciding he doesn't like how fair this fight is, uses his superior height to easily step over the mid-ring ropes in a tactical retreat. Luger follows, but as he attempts to slide through Nash catches him with a fist to the gut while he's entangled and unloads a massive suplex over the ropes and into the second ring. With Luger stunned, Nash takes control with gut stomps followed up with a series of monster clotheslines and finishing up with a sidewalk slam. In complete control, Nash begins to toy with Luger, taunting him as he drags him back to his feet for another power move. Out of nowhere, Luger counters with an inverted atomic drop. Nash wobbles, and Luger bounces off the ropes to hit a running bulldog to put him down, and follows through by bouncing off the opposite ropes and nailing the elbow drop. Spent of his energy, Luger stays on the mat alongside a wounded Nash... just as the announcer begins the period countdown. Scott Hall books down the ramp to aid his partner.

Over the next two minutes Luger's resilience is put to the test as he takes on both Outsiders. Hall's very first act upon entering the cage is to pick Luger up and position him for the Outsider's Edge, but the Total Package counters by standing up, back body dropping his attacker. Still woozy, the Total Package stumbles back into the cage. Hall follows, but Luger is able to dodge, slamming his face into the steel. Things are looking up, but Luger is still far from recovered and Nash has returned to his feet. Nash's attack is brutal, battering Luger into the corner and applying a series of knee lifts and a boot choke which suck all remaining life from Luger. Hall joins his partner in the corner, and they begin alternating stomps which send Luger to the ground. Luger looks like he might well be unconscious... until his plants his boot into Hall's crotch, sending him stumbling away. Nash drags Luger back to his feel and continues his attack alone as the countdown finishes and Barry Windham charges to the rescue. The Lone Wolf targets the still hurting Hall and in an amazing display power lifts him from onto the top turnbuckle, leaps onto the second rope and hits the Superplex after less than 10 seconds, taking Hall out of the equation for the moment. He changes his target and kicks the back of Nash's knee, following up with a fist to the back of the head once he's at a more punchable height, and finishing with a slingshot splash to drive the wind from his lungs. With both Outsiders incapacitated, Windham makes the call to pick Luger up and help him back to the first ring, giving the Package a much needed breather and putting the ropes between them and the Outsiders. The commentary team debates the merits of helping Luger vs keeping up the pressure on the Outsiders, also mentioning that the Lone Wolf has changed into a real team player since joining his new 'pack.' With only one minute left in the period, the Outsiders circle, crawling cautiously toward their targets. But as soon as they're both in the ring, Luger and Windham charge, taking the fight to them while they're still against the ropes. Both sides mix it up evenly, and neither side has a clear edge until the time ticks down and Benoit joins the fray.

The Enforcer enforces his will, body tackling Luger like a man possessed, taking him to the mat and beating the hell out of him. The Outsiders focus their efforts on Windham with Luger again off his feet, attacking his limbs to make sure he won't be doing any more rope climbing. Meanwhile Benoit has controlled himself and begun a methodical attack on the already weakened Luger's shoulder and back with suplexes, arm bars and other technical attacks, almost certainly prepping him for the Crippler Crossface that might win them the match. While Windham does recover and land a few solid strikes on Hall, a big boot from Nash silences his momentum, and Benoit never gives an inch for Luger to breath. When the announcer starts the countdown, Benoit finally separates from Luger and signals to the Outsiders to back him up, leaving their opponents on the ground. They stand ready, and from behind the curtain steps Ric Flair. He walks deliberately, approaching the door just as the last second ticks off the timer and the buzzer sounds. He stands tall against his three opponents, and when they hesitate he shouts at them to make a move, stomping his feet and slapping his chest, daring any of them to take on the Nature Boy. Benoit is the one to break the stalemate, and he gets a monster clothesline for his trouble. Flair sticks and moves, alternating huge shots to the face on both Outsiders to keep them reeling, and finally lays them out with a double-clothesline. Flair gives out a massive WOOOOOO, and does his strut walk for just a moment before hustling over to Windham and helping him to his feet. Both men lift up Luger, and they put their dukes up as the New Horsemen crawl to their feet. Each man picks an opponent and the brawling begins in earnest, even more brutal then before. The cage is brought into play as men's faces and backs are ground against metal. Flair hits low blows and Benoit unloads a multitude of submission techniques. Luger teases a Torture Rack and eats a fist while his arms are full, and Windham attempts another Superplex only to have his leg give out on him opening him up for an ultra rare Kevin Nash high spot in the form of a splash on his fallen foe. As Flair is busted open, blood staining his white blonde hair, the countdown begins and Arn Anderson appears to survey the carnage.

The Champ is in no great hurry and his approach to the ring is almost leisurely. The announcers speculate that he is dead certain that he is the last man into this cage and the time is only counting down to the moment they can win. At last he steps into the cage about twenty seconds after the buzzer, and immediately bull rushes Flair and nails him with an authoritative Spinebuster in the center of the ring, shouting like a madman that this is his hour, that Flair's war ends tonight. With the Nature Boy planted Anderson's men double-team their remaining challengers. The Horsemen put up a valiant effort in the two-on-one fights but are simply no match for the odds against them, getting ground into powder. A weakened Windham and Luger eat an Outsider's Edge and Jacknife respectively while Benoit and Anderson start to work over Flair's legs, clearly intending to make him tap to the Figure Four as soon as the buzzer sounds to begin the Match Beyond. A few seconds later, that buzzer does sound, and Anderson steps over Flair's leg... only to be frozen in place by the sight of Sting blitzing toward the ring.

Sting comes in like a house on fire, clobbering the hell out of every New Horseman that comes within his reach. Fists and feet strike like lightning, Stinger Splashes light up the ring. Anderson is completely stunned, as if he can't believe what he's seeing as Sting applies the Scorpion Death Drop to Hall. He manages to completely miss Flair's recovery, and the Nature Boy plants a boot in Double A's ribs. Luger and Windham return to their feet through sheer force of will, and double team Kevin Nash, forcing him back to the second ring and away from the fighting as Sting squares off with the champion. Arn finally gets his head in the game and matches Sting shot for shot as they tear their way around the ring, grinding each other against the cage. Meanwhile, Flair and Benoit are locked in a duel to the death as they try desperately to pick up the win, but the two submission specialists are too wily and reverse every attempt to lock in lesser hold and consistently squirm out of each other's finishers. As Flair finally resorts to knife-edge chops and Hall recovers enough to stumble after his partner to help, Anderson looks to put an end to the Stinger, grabbing hold of him for a Spinebuster... only to receive a huge headbutt to the face, a followup punch to the throat, and a quick grapple into another Scorpion Death Drop. Arn is helpless and his team doesn't even notice his peril as Sting locks the Scorpion Death Lock in in the center of the ring. Arn struggles, he cries, he screams in agony... and finally, the WCW Champion taps out. The Four Horsemen have won War Games.

As the New Horsemen beat a hasty retreat, Sting's music plays triumphantly and his team celebrates their victory. Flair gives Sting a warm hug, shouting that he knew it all along, he never doubted. Sting hugs right back, then pulls back from the group... and raises the Four Fingers at last. His team follows suit, and Sting's theme fades to that of the Four Horsemen, who finally ride again.

Great main event. Overall, I give this card a B.

# ? Feb 28, 2014 06:40

JoeRules: Jul 11, 2001

WWF, you have an incident to be dealt with before RAW. Get it dealt with before 9AM CST, or else RAW won't run before I leave town tomorrow. :siren:

For the general population: RAW hopefully runs tomorrow, and while I'll be out of town Fri/Sat, all shows up through IYH will be run Sunday-Monday.

# ? Feb 28, 2014 07:38

Discount Trombones: Jan 22, 2014

What a great event. Here's hoping Lanny starts referring to himself as "the cerebral assassin" :smug:

Discount Trombones fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Feb 28, 2014

# ? Feb 28, 2014 12:25

triplexpac: Mar 24, 2007; Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

Hennig winning the tag titles is an interesting choice, I'm curious to see what the ramifications will be.

# ? Feb 28, 2014 15:57

Edward Mass: Sep 14, 2011; 𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen𝅘𝅥𝅮

wergeck.net posted:

Live results for September Week 3 1996 Nitro, here on wergeck.net!

DARK MATCH: El Hijo del Santo defeats Brian James with a Top� de Cristo.

DARK MATCH: The Navigators defeat the Rock 'n Roll Express when Lucky Tonzura pins Ricky Morton after a Most Excellent Kicks Mix.

The Four Horsemen, now with Sting as a member, come out to the ring. Ric Flair congratulates each member of his team, but saves most of his praise for Sting. Flair says that since Sting made Arn Anderson submit, he should get a title shot. At first, Sting is modest, saying that Ric Flair should get the title shot, since he chose Sting to be on his team. Ric Flair says that Sting earned his title shot, and tries to start a 'Sting' chant. After seeing his fellow Horsemen chant his name, Sting accepts, but not before saying that when he beats Anderson, Flair's the first guy in line for a title match. Barry Windham underperformed

The Thrillseekers defeat El Dandy and La Parka when Cage uses the Showstealer on Dandy. The Brain continuously calls the luchador team "El & La," which doesn't help them against the focused Canadians. Despite the loss, El Dandy and La Parka show great chemistry. Brigadier Bobby Eaton comes out after the match and says the Thrillseekers have won a battle, but he and his soldiers, the Knights Templar, will win the war.

The Public Enemy defeat Jeff Jarrett and Dan "The Beast" Severn when Grunge pins Jarrett after the Drive By. Jarrett actually dominates most of the match with wrestling maneuvers, only seemingly to lose mental focus and struggle when Severn reminds him to use his MMA training. The commentators note it is clear why the "MMA Enthusiast" isn't a professional.

Raven talks with Perry Saturn and Madusa about the future of the Flock. Raven says he's looking at new followers to help him spread the message. Raven sits down in front of a TV set, ready to scout new talent. Raven looked great, Saturn looked OK, Madusa looked not so good.

Psicosis and Juventud Guerrera defeat Ultimo Dragon and Billy Kidman when Guerrera slides out the back of a dragon sleeper from Ultimo Dragon into a tights-hooking roll-up.

Backstage, Arn Anderson calmly talks his Horsemen about their losing effort last night. Hall points out that it was Anderson who tapped out. Anderson says he knows this, but "do as I say, not as I do." Anderson thanks Hall and Nash for their continued work, and tells them to get their job done tonight, because he and Benoit are too banged up to wrestle. Anderson looked great, Nash looked good, but Scott Hall could use a gimmick change.

The commentators provide us with a medical update on Kid Rock, who was assaulted by Hugh Morrus and Meng following the conclusion of his winning effort against The Shark last night at Fall Brawl. They announce that he is recovering from minor injuries and is not expected to be sidelined for long, but will certainly be looking for revenge.

Jimmy Hart arrives in toe with Meng, the Shark, and Hugh Morrus. Hart mentions that Kid Rock has bitten off more than he can chew, and that there is strength in numbers. Hart announces his new group, the First Family, will do everything in its power to strike down Kid Rock and his buddies the Public Enemy.

Meng (with Jimmy Hart) defeats Konnan with the Tongan Death Grip. Meng, reunited with his old manager, has a new sense of focus he hasn't had in months, putting any doubts of his abilites to rest.

James + James, a bit deflated and gimmickless, are out to the ring for a promo ahead of Maritato's match with Glacier, and they vow to get the titles back from Road Warrior Hawk and Curt Hennig.

Glacier defeats James Maritato when Brian James's interference backfires, an Irish-whip reversal spot culminating in Maritato getting brained by a Brian James-wielded chair. Glacier finishes with a swift Cryon-Bomb.

After Glacier's victory, Mortis' music plays and he steps out onto the ramp with James Mitchell and the Freedom Towers. Mitchell has a microphone. "I bet you think you're awfully 'cool,' don't you Glacier? You've been running roughshod around here even since you floated in on your little iceberg. Seems like nobody can stop you. Hell, who knows what you did to the Barbarian after your little freak show with the snowy grave? He hasn't been seen since! These idiots in the stands and the do-gooders in the back may act like they respect you, but I think we all know that they're really just afraid. Afraid of whatever power you're hiding in that helmet. But I've got news for you snowflake. Mortis isn't afraid. Mortis has been stalking you for weeks now, getting a gauge on just how powerful you really are every time you've been dumb enough to cross his path. And you have been found wanting. So here's fair warning: very soon, there will be a reckoning. Mortis isn't like any of the chumps you've faced around here so far. And with my Freedom Towers backing him up, well... lets just say that chill you're feeling down your spine has nothing to do with ice. If I were you, Glacier, I'd get ready. Because Mortis is about to turn your world upside down."

Curt Hennig and Road Warrior Hawk defeat Wallstreet Enterprises in a non-title match when Hawk pins Kanyon after the Doomsday Device, with Hennig slotting into Animal's role for the move. The commentators put over the surprise of Hennig's return to the ring and his tag title win. Wallstreet was off his game, but Hennig looked good.

Rick Rude comes out, angry at Curt Hennig abandoning his post as WCW Commissioner to wrestle. He says that without a full-time WCW Commissioner, the inner workings of World Championship Wrestling have gone awry. Rude points out that Hulk Hogan, Scott Steiner, and others have left the backstage area, and nobody can find them. He calmly says, "I'd hate to see anything bad happen to you, Curt, especially now that you've abandoned your post. I suggest you think long and hard about how much you're willing to pay for a title belt, because it might be steeper than you think."

The Outsiders defeat the Nasty Boys when Nash pins Knobbs with the Jackknife. Nash and Hall look a bit worn down after their efforts the previous night, but manage to put away the Nastys.

Video Package: MTV's 'Amp' opens, with the Navigators' listed first on the list of artists. A house song named "The Snake and the Cat" plays over footage of the Navigators wrestling various Japanese opponents. Sonny Onoo is seen cheering them on. THE NAVIGATORS: COMING SOON TO WCW scrolls at the bottom of the screen.

Terry Gordy and Lanny Poffo come out to the ring for a promo. As Gordy stands behind Poffo looking menacing, Poffo explains that, though he may be known as Leapin' Lanny Poffo or "a genius," what he is not well-known as is Randy Savage's brother, which he attributes to Savage's egomania. Despite being a technically adept high-flyer and one of the first wrestlers in North America to use a moonsault, Poffo bemoans the fact that he languished in obscurity while his self-absorbed brother main-evented some of the largest cards in wrestling history with nary a thought about using that influence to benefit his family. Poffo says Savage needed to be reminded to think about his brother, and Terry "Bam Bam" Gordy was the reminder. Poffo puts over Gordy as an internationally renowned bruiser who had no problem "benefiting from my superior intellect" and making an impact by taking out Savage, nor will he have a problem carving out his place among WCW's elite by retiring Randy Savage for good. "And that, dear friends, will be poetry."

MAIN EVENT: The Four Horsemen (Sting and Lex Luger) defeat the Blue Bloods when Sting defeats Eaton with a Scorpion Death Drop. Sting and Luger, reunited, finally seem to be on the same page and function excellently as a team.

While Regal and Eaton beat a hasty retreat, Sting grabs a microphone. "Anderson, I hope you were watching that match! Your days as WCW Champion are numbered! My fears, my doubts, they're finally gone! I was obsessed with history, stuck in the past! But now, the only thing I can see is the future! And my future has never looked better!"

As Sting speaks his last words, suddenly the lights flicker. Both men in the ring look confused as sparks begin to shoot from the rafters and electronic devices. The camera feeds fuzz over intermittently, but their operators keep rolling as the Turnertron suddenly activates. A disjointed, indecipherable video begins to play and the audio hisses and distorts as a jumble of sounds punctuated by raw static fills the air. The pyro at the entrance malfunctions and starts to fire randomly. The commentators and Horsemen alike are stunned and don't know what to do, until finally all the lights completely die after a final flash of sparks. When the power returns, Luger and Sting are no longer alone. Standing in the ring are Hulk Hogan and Scott Steiner. They are dressed in plain black, and emblazoned upon their t-shirts is a logo in bone white. It reads N-W-O.

The two villains pounce and begin mercilessly beating the two Horsemen, bludgeoning them until they fall to the floor giving them no chance to retaliate. Once they're stunned, Hogan and Steiner Irish whip their respective targets, and in an awesome display of dominance Hogan hit Sting with the big boot as Steiner nails Luger with a Steiner Screwdriver. Both men are defenseless and prone, Hogan drops the leg on both their necks. Grabbing a mike, Hogan addresses the audience as he and his partner plant boots on the chests of the fallen. "As of this moment, WCW is on borrowed time. Welcome... to the NEW. WORLD. ORDER!" He drops the mike and both men flash some kind of sign with their hands. A guitar riff and a now-stable video featuring Hogan and Steiner play at the entrance, and inexplicably the camera's go black and white as Nitro comes to a close.

Bizarre finish, but overall, a B-.

Edward Mass fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Mar 1, 2014

# ? Mar 1, 2014 02:33

I Before E: Jul 2, 2012

Oh, of course.

# ? Mar 1, 2014 02:40

Maxwell Lord: Dec 12, 2008; I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.; Grimey Drawer

I always like the "random guy in the segment who didn't do much underperformed" results. I imagine Windham standing near the back looking right at the camera, trying not to laugh, etc.

# ? Mar 1, 2014 02:44

Golden Bee: Dec 24, 2009; I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.

Maxwell Lord posted:

I always like the "random guy in the segment who didn't do much underperformed" results. I imagine Windham standing near the back looking right at the camera, trying not to laugh, etc.

Maybe they had one or two lines but just forgot'em.

# ? Mar 1, 2014 03:32

Sanguinia: Jan 1, 2012; ~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

WCW we have an important announcement in a few minutes, get in to the IRC if you're free :siren:

# ? Mar 2, 2014 23:42

I Before E: Jul 2, 2012

E: nevermind

# ? Mar 3, 2014 01:17

Do not even ask: Apr 8, 2008

tiedomi4champ@hotmail.com posted:

Heyo! Raw came to Maple Leafs territory this week and the loonies running this show must've hated us 'cause they stuck us with four dark matches. Taz and the Can-Am Connection had the first dark match against Ahmed Johnson, Mark Henry and the bear. Ahmed hit the Pearl River Plunge on LaFon for the pin, but who loving cares the match sucked and Ahmed and LaFon both stink like poo poo. Despite the lovely match, that Henry fella looked like a killer.

King Kong Bundy, Brian Pillman, and Jerry Lynn went up against Dr. Tom Prichard and the Smoking Gunns. Billy was pinned by Pillman. Yawn, next.

"The Model" Rick Martel & Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart took on the Dudleyz. Anvil pinned D-Von after a power slam. This match wasn't bad and it seemed that the show was looking up.

Then, oh baby, "Rowdy" Roddy Piper came out for a match! Love Piper and he had a decently long match with Sione of the Headshrinkers, where Piper went over.

The cameras started rolling and to start off Raw, Jerry Lawler was running down Canada, saying that Canada doesn't have anyone who can measure up to a man from the great state of Tennessee. gently caress you Lawler, I'm sure Tie Domi would gently caress you up real nice. Thank god for Jericho, who interrupts Lawler. "WILL YOU PLEASE SHUT! THE HELL! UP! If you really think you're that good, put your money where your mouth is, and face me tonight!" Lawler accepts, the match is made for later in the night, and Lawler notes that if he can't beat a "worthless Canadian" he might as well quit in shame.

Speaking of shame, it's was a drat shame for us, because we got the longest death spot of horseshit starting with a backstage segment, where Ted DiBiase talks with Tatanka and Sid and flashes money around. Who cares.

Tatanka and Sid vs. Road Rage. Taz was on commentary for the match, probably verbally fellating that Million Dollar Cock. The heels prove very effective in isolating Bob Holly throughout the match and mercilessly beat him down. Every attempt by Mero to assist is quickly cut off by the referee returning him to his corner. Eventually, Holly can take no more, and is put down with The End of the Trail. The sharp-eyed among the viewers at home might've noticed a wad of cash sticking out of the referee's pocket. As the heels walk away, Tatanka looks conflicted about his actions. Still, no one cared.

We got woke up for a bit when Jim Cornette and Dave Taylor were on Inside The Actors' Studio, as Dave Taylor continues to lobby for a rematch against Bulldog at Vengeance. Warrior comes out to confront Cornette. "GRAAAAAAAAAA, CORNETTE, A WARRIOR LIKE THE WWF CHAMPION CANNOT SHIRK HIS DUTY LIKE VADER DID LAST WEEK! NO WAAAAARRRIOOOOORRR OF HONOR WOULD GO TO AN AMUSEMENT PARK INSTEAD OF THE FIELD OF BATTLE! *SKROOOOOO-" Vader and Bulldog run in to defend Cornette, and a brawl breaks out. Vince declares a tag team match for tonight, Warrior and Taylor v. Vader and Bulldog, and if Warrior's team wins, Dave Taylor will get his match at Vengeance.

Pre-taped interview. Vince McMahon introduces Olympic weightlifter Mark Henry. Mark is pleasant and humble, talking about being a wrestling fan since childhood, his dabbling in poetry, and his astonishment that a Sillsbee, Texas boy like him could grow up into the big, strong Olympian he's become. "I was diagnosed with dyslexia at 14 years old, and if you told that kid, 'in 10, 11 years, you'll be the strongest man alive, and you're going to be wrestling in the same ring Andre the Giant wrestled in', I don't know what little 14 year old me would even say. It's a miracle, that's all I can really say. It's a miracle."

"Stone Cold" Steve Austin had another of the matches he had to win to earn the right to challenge for the IC title, this time against Dave Finlay. HHH was on commentary this match, saying nothing of worth because HHH sucks. It was looking pretty even until HHH started shouting at Finlay from the commentary desk. "HEY DAVE, I SAW YOUR WIFE BACKSTAGE, AND LEMME TELL YOU, IT'S AMAZING THE THINGS SOME PEOPLE WILL DO FOR MONEY!" Finlay was incensed by this, and started to yell back before Austin surprised him with a Stunner for the win.

It was time for another "HBK does random poo poo and no one knows what to make of it" vignette. This time Michaels was in a black void, talking to what seemed to be 2 Marty Jannettys. One was the Skunkrocker, the other looked like Shawn Michaels circa 1992. Shawn was talking to both of them, seemingly at once, trying to convince Skunkrocker to forgive him for his betrayal and 1992 Michaels not to go through with it. Skunkrocker came to understand what he was saying, but didn't say he forgave him, but 1992 Shawn just kept talking about how great he was and how he didn't care what happened to Marty, and we faded out as 1992 Shawn turned his back and walked into a barbershop in the distance while modern Shawn kept pleading.

From two Jannettys to one, we had ourselves another loving Skunkrocker Pan-Am title defence against Tracy Smothers. I'd say one Jannetty is way too loving many anyway because the match we got sucked poo poo and Skunkrocker stunk up the ring big time. Skunkrocker retained against Tracy Smothers by kicking him in balls while the ref was out of position and rolled Smothers up for the win. gently caress. Off.

That fella with the flashy clothes and jewelry from a couple of weeks ago came out with a gaggle of what looked like... male strippers? He was stopping to chat with people in the crowd and writing down numbers in a little black book. He introduces himself as The Godfather and cuts a short promo before his match. "You all know that pimpin' ain't easy, but nothing worth doing is, am I right? So to all the ladies and gentlemen at home, if you like what you see, call up the G-O-D, and get on board the Bro Train!" Oh. So he's a pimp. Right.

HHH came out, and they had a decently long match. Godfather went for a Death Valley Driver, but HHH dropped out and hit him with the Pedigree for the pinfall. I think my eyes inadvertently rolled into the back of my head while this match was going.

Then Pillman came out and talked to HHH for a while. "You know, there's a lot of similarities between you and I. We both came from WCW, we both tag teamed with Steve Austin, and we're both going to beat the hell out a member of the Brave Lions on Sunday!" No one really cared and as always HHH sucks.

Another hype video where Edge, Dave Taylor, and Jake Roberts tried to teach that bear to speak.

There was a weird moment while the cameras weren't rolling for the commercial break, where Goldust and Taker came out but one of the employees ran out to say something to the both of them and they all returned backstage and never came back out. Looks like there was a huge miscommunication and a match or two had to get axed as a result.

That miscommunication was probably for the best because that was when all of the dreadful segments ended when we finally had Jericho wrestling against Jerry "The King" Lawler. Jericho tapped out Jerry Lawler with the Walls Of Jericho, in what was a pretty long match.

Lawler looked shocked and Jericho started to chant "NA NA NA NA, NA NA NA NA, HEY HEY HEY, GOODBYE" and he got a good handful of the crowd to chant along with him. The announcers note that next week's Raw will be in Memphis, Tennessee, and Jerry Lawler will have a going-away party.

Bret Hart beat Hakushi with the Sharpshooter, Jim Neidhart at ringside. Bret and Anvil are a good pairing, like you can doubt that, and Bret looked good as always.

Owen Hart comes out to attack Bret, laying him out. Jim Neidhart ran out to back Bret up, and they ran Owen off. No one gave a poo poo about that fatass Neidhart, and Bret looked amazing. This was bar none the hottest segment of the night.

Warrior and Dave Taylor v. Bulldog and Vader. Vader and Bulldog threw Taylor around like a ragdoll throughout the match; it was actually pretty funny. Warrior's team goes over when Owen Hart, still furious from being run off by Anvil and Bret, came in and started hitting people with a chair, starting with Warrior. Looks like Taylor will have his match at Vengeance. Pfft, with how this tag match went, I'm sure that match will be a laugh riot.

Owen Hart stands above the broken bodies of Taylor, Warrior, Vader, and Bulldog, still furious, as Cornette tries to reason with him to end Raw. Vader looked really glazed, just sold the gently caress out of the beatdown, and I don't know what the gently caress Taylor was doing. I think he was flopping around and moaning? Jeez, what a loving goober.

Despite the pure drizzling shits that filled the show after the opening promo, the show ended strong with all the real stars. Get's a B- from this Leafs nut.

# ? Mar 3, 2014 01:19

Golden Bee: Dec 24, 2009; I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.

Congrats to WWF on their "Gay Pimp" gimmick. Did you steal the idea from Rosie O'Donnell?

# ? Mar 3, 2014 02:02

Abrasive Obelisk: May 2, 2013; ~~I joined th~~
ROVPACK IN THE HOOUUUUSE!

he still knows...

Golden Bee posted:

Congrats to WWF on their "Gay Pimp" gimmick. Did you steal the idea from Rosie O'Donnell?

Who ever said he's gay?

# ? Mar 3, 2014 02:05

Sanguinia: Jan 1, 2012; ~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

Props to WWF for delivering a very coherent and interesting HBK segment this week. It was still surreal and abstract, but it was much easier to get what you were trying to get across this time. I like the idea that it's art film-ish, but some of those earlier ones were practically to artfilm parody "There is a bird on a log in front of an ocean, he is reading mein kamph, and the movie is about abortion" levels. There were a couple other segments I really liked as well.

But wow, what was up with Goldust and Taker? You literally have a botchamania moment in our fake wrestling game.

# ? Mar 3, 2014 02:11

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

Sanguinia posted:

But wow, what was up with Goldust and Taker? You literally have a botchamania moment in our fake wrestling game.

We had booked a short match and another segment and when JoeRules booked the show he left them off and we didn't realize it until after it was run

# ? Mar 3, 2014 03:05

Abrasive Obelisk: May 2, 2013; ~~I joined th~~
ROVPACK IN THE HOOUUUUSE!

he still knows...

IcePhoenix posted:

We had booked a short match and another segment and when JoeRules booked the show he left them off and we didn't realize it until after it was run

It was Goldust/Taker vs. Jake Roberts and Edge, and then a Goldust promo.

quote:

Goldust promo on Kane. "'Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.' -Oscar Wilde. Kane, since you revealed yourself at Summerslam, you've hidden behind that mask, and I have seen the truth of who you are. You are a paper tiger, an empty threat, an actor in the makeup of a monster! But you forget that an actor like myself perfects the tools of his trade, and recognizes them in action. If you want to put on a performance, I will give you a tour de force you will never recover from, I promise you that. The Ultimate Warrior and Paul Bearer will not be able to bolster you this Sunday."

Also, WCW, you guys did a fantastic job on Wargames; it's really cool how you've been building it up since the very beginning. Props. I hope it leads to Sting/Arn for the belt.

And what is up with the NWO? I thought it would lead to Scott/Hogan for the AWA belt, not this!

Abrasive Obelisk fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Mar 3, 2014

# ? Mar 3, 2014 03:12

Edward Mass: Sep 14, 2011; 𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen𝅘𝅥𝅮

Abrasive Obelisk posted:

And what is up with the NWO? I thought it would lead to Scott/Hogan for the AWA belt, not this!

It'll all make sense soon.

# ? Mar 3, 2014 03:27

Edward Mass: Sep 14, 2011; 𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen𝅘𝅥𝅮

wergeck.net posted:

Spoilers for Week 3, September 1996 Saturday Night.

DARK MATCH: Evad Sullivan defeats Mark Starr, in a match sure to disappoint his father Ringo. Starr was off his game.

DARK MATCH: Jeff Jarrett, Ekmo, and Kimo defeat Konnan, Rey Misterio, Jr., and Ultimo Dragon.

DARK MATCH: Hulk Hogan and Scott Steiner defeat the Rock 'n Roll Express. Scott Steiner looked good.

Eddy Guerrero defeats La Parka in the opening bout. Eddy continues to impress with his technique and ability to play to the crowd and the announcers play up that we might be looking at a future champion. He hits the Frog Splash to pick up the pin.

Brigadier Bobby Eaton lines up the Knights Templar in the ring and begins lecturing them like a drill sergeant. He says that in it's long history, Great Britain has never bowed before it's enemies. They fought the Roman Empire, the Normans, the great sultan Saladin during the Crusades, The Spanish Armada, Napoleon, Hitler, and never once through all those trials did the sun set on their Empire. Even when the American colonies won their freedom during the Revolution, it was only a few years later than the British returned and during the War of 1812 they burned Washington DC to the ground! So yes, it's true that the Trillseekers defeated them at Fall Brawl. But the Nobility will never yield. King Steven Regal has given Eaton a mission, and he intends to see it through to the end. He asks the Knight's Templar if they are with him, and they respond: "Of course Brigadier! This battle is at the behest of the divine! Even if we frail imperfect humans lose one battle, in the end we will ensure that God Wins!"

The Knights Templar defeat Taka Michinoku and Disco Inferno. The Knights are energetic and ruthless in the wake of Eaton's pep talk, and hit hard and fast at every opportunity. While Disco and Taka get in some decent offense, Nelson Knight has very little trouble hitting the Inquisition for the pinfall when the two good guys get worn down from the constant high-impact offense.

Dusty Rhodes interviews Stevie Ray, looking for a reaction from Harlem Heat, one of the top competitors in the Tag Team Division, to the Commisioner's return to the ring and his winning the Tag Titles. Stevie says it was shocking, but that he's excited for the opportunity to take on such a tough competitor, hopefully sometime very soon in the future after their rematch with J+J, because Harlem Heat still wants gold. When Dusty asks if his partner feels the same way, Ray points out with a touch of exhasperation that he hasn't seen Booker T since around halfway through last Monday's Nitro, and hopes his partner will turn up soon.

Terry Gordy (with Lanny Poffo) defeats "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan. Gordy puts his skills at a bruiser on display, shoving his weight around and physically overpowering Hacksaw at every turn. Duggan, while not totally helpless, just can't seem to slow Gordy's momentum for very long at any point during the match. For his part, Lanny is constantly shouting advice, strategy and encouragment to Gordy, who takes his "genius," manager's insights to heart and steps up his game at every turn. Finally, Hacksaw is put to bed with the Powerbomb for a three-count. Poffo did good work, but Gordy and Duggan don't click well.

Team X-treme are in the ring to celebrate their victory in the Raven's Rules match. Too Cold Scorpio notes how glad he was that they were able to put Raven in his place and remind him that he doesn't have a blank check to run rampant around WCW. He vaguely recounts how Raven has always thought he had all the answers, even back when the whole bunch of them were putting each other through tables back East, but as usual the man didn't account for what a group willing to take things beyond normal wrestling are capable of, and it came back to haunt him at Fall Brawl. That being said, he does have one regret, and to address it he calls out Billy Kidman. He apologizes to the young high-flyer for causing him to get beat down. Too Cold, Sabu and RVD all know how powerful the man's words can be, and they don't blame Kidman for being drawn in. They're only sorry that Raven couldn't appreciate Kidman's abilities the minute he stopped letting himself be brainwashed. Too Cold hopes that Kidman isn't discouraged and notes that he doesn't need Raven to become a star. Van Dam interrupts "That's true Too Cold. In fact, I don't think Kidman can learn anything about wrestling from anybody. But after Fall Brawl, I'm betting he can't wait to get his hands on Raven. And if that's what he wants, he DOES need help with one thing: learning how to go to those places that this team and Raven's Flock came from. Learning how to be EXTREME! And if he's willing to learn those things, there's nobody better than us to teach him." Kidman responds immediatly: he crosses his arms above his head, making the Team X-Treme "X." Kidman has adapted to his new role well, but his change might have come too soon.

James + James come out wearing flannel, thick-rimmed glasses, and clothespins on their noses. Brian James clearly is troubled when he speaks: "I'm supposed to come out here and tell you we're supposed to be the Silent But Dudleyz, but, honestly, I'm not feeling it. We're still upset after losing the titles to two guys who I doubt ever tagged together before. WE are deserving of the tag titles! Us! I don't care what we have to do to get those titles back, but we are getting our titles back!"

The Silent But Dudleyz (James + James) defeat Rob Van Dam and Sabu. At first Team X-treme seems unstoppable after their acquisition of Kidman, putting their talents on display with plenty of high-flying action and great kicking offense. J+J struggle to stay alive, although Brian manages to catch Sabu in the setup for a Bubba Bomb before it gets reversed. Van Dam seems poised to pick up the win with a Five-Star Frog Splash when Raven's music hits. The Flock's appearance at the top of the ramp distracts The Whole F'n Show, leading to James + James pulling him off the turnbuckle and hitting a 3-D on RVD for the victory.

King Steven Regal defeats Chavo Guerrero, Jr. Chavo leverages his speed and small stature to give Regal plenty of difficulty in getting his hands on him. After a few high spots leave the champion stunned, Schiovanni and Tenay share a joke that it's no wonder Regal prefers his Queensbury Rules matches if the Mexican high-flyer style is so beyond him. Ventura remarks that there's nothing wrong with playing to your strengths, especially when you're a champ and you've earned the right to call shots like that, and further remarks that even if Regal has trouble with unorthodox styles, it's possible that Regal is UNBEATABLE at his own level. The match seems to bear that analysis out as Regal takes control, grounds Chavo with plenty of holds and leg attacks, and then proceeds to bludgeon him into submission before nailing the Union Jack for the pin. Regal looked good.

Rick Steiner interview with Dusty Rhodes (focus on Hogan and Scott Steiner) saying how he'll be out of action for a while thanks to his brother's betrayal and how disappointed he is that he couldn't defeat Hogan, but that he promises that he's not done with either man. When Dusty asks what Rick makes of the two men's actions on Monday and what they meant by New World Order, Rick says quite simply "The men who attacked Sting and Luger aren't the Hogan and Scott I used to know. I want to settle accounts with the REAL Scott Steiner and Hulk Hogan. I just hope they're back before I'm healed up so I can beat the hell out of them."

Mortis defeats Scott Norton. Mortis' aggression in the ring seems higher than usual, as does his sadism, possibly due to his excitement over whatever he threatened Glacier with on Nitro. While Norton gets in some decent offense of his own and keeps control of the match for a while, Mortis constantly attacks his joins and kidneys, and eventually Norton begins to break down. Mortis continues his dissection of his opponent long after it's clear that he can win the match, reveling in the pain he's giving. Finally, he picks up the pinfall when he is no longer ammused.

Video package: Launch day for the Navigators' first album released in the United States. A crowd is seen lined up outside the Tower Records in Times Square, cheering as the camera pans. The doors open, and the people rush in to get a copy of 'Drive'. In the back, Sonny Onoo is seen with the Navigators, watching the chaos on a security camera. THE NAVIGATORS: COMING SOON TO WCW

Barry Windham defeats Kevin Sullivan with the Superplex. Windham looks great in his first single's competition in a while, running off the momentum he got out of War Games. He takes it to Sullivan hard, putting on a real clinic of suplexes and other power-oriented moves. Despite his disadvantage, Sullivan shows tenacity by controlling the ring environment, rolling out when he needs a breather and seperation to slow Windham's roll and using the corners both defensively and offensively. He plays possom at one point by over-selling a shot to the face to get the referee between them, and then sneaks into a rollup that earns him a two-count. Finally he threatens Windham with some body blows and shoulder breakers, taking the wind out of the Lone Wolf's attack, but he's too beat up to do much to capitalize on his success. Desperate, The Taskmaster climbs the turnbuckle, possibly looking to nail the Devil Stomp from the top rope, but he is too slow and Windham recovers, chasing him up and turning that plan into a Superplex for the win. Sullivan's new gimmick worked well.

Sting comes to the ring and calls out Hogan and Steiner, demanding they explain themselves for the beating on Monday. Hogan and Steiner come to the ring to their new music, still wearing those shirts with N-W-O written on them. Even more unusual are their new props: Hogan sports a fluffy feather boa, and Scott is wearing a chainmail headdress! Hogan pick up a mike and makes his voice overflow with patronizing sarcasm. "Stinger, my man, you are soooo right to be upset. I mean, here we are coming out of nowhere and smacking you down... I mean, that's gotta be totally unprecidented in professional wrestling. That kind of thing just NEVER, EVER happens, so it's completely understandable that it would bother you, and you are not overreacting AT ALL. So, I just want to take a quick second here and say 'I'm real sorry, Brother.' We promise, it'll NEVER happen again."

Steiner is having a small fit over Hogan's performance, especially after he gives Sting a fatherly pat on the shoulder. Hogan continues. "The fact of the matter is, we would have taken down whoever we found in the ring. It was just bad luck that it was you, brother. But you know how it is, dude. When a new team rolls into town, it's important that they make a statement to the locker room. And I'll let you in on a little secret Stinger:" He leans in close and talks almost conspiritorially, "The New World Order? We're kind of a big deal. We're bigger than any of you or the rest of these yahoos could possibly fathom. So we made that statement. It was nothing personal." Sting shoves him back, and Hogan holds up his arms disarmingly before saying "I mean, frankly, even though you're Number One Contender, you're really not even on out radar. The NWO only has time for one thing, brother, and that's the glory of the Black and White. And let's face it, you're a little too... colorful (he gestures to Sting's face paint and gear) for us to take you seriously. Maybe you oughta rethink your look man, EVERYONE looks good in black and white."

As they yuck it up, Sting looks like he's ready to snap over their mockery, but Lex Luger comes down to join them. He says he understands how angry Sting is since he got jumped as well, but he can't afford to pick any unnecessary fights while he's got a title shot in his future. He needs to save all his anger and rage for Arn Anderson. Sting seems to get calmer, but Luger then turns and gets in Hogan and Steiner's faces. "But I don't have any title shots, do I boys? So next Monday, on Nitro, lets say we get together. And then the Total Package can be the one who makes a statement with whoever he finds in the ring." Hogan and Steiner looked good, Sting and Lex Luger didn't.

MAIN EVENT: Dean Malenko and Chris Benoit defeat Ric Flair and El Hijo del Santo. The match is a technical smorgusboard, each man showing the absolute best to be had when it comes to mat wrestling, strategy and carefully calculated offensive sequences. Flair and Benoit are hot after their unresolved showdown in the cage, and the Crossface and Figure Four are teased more than once. Malenko continues to stalk Santo like a man possessed, and the Cruiser Champ is in no good mood himself after Malenko's cheap shot and takes it to his title contender with several beautiful high-flying manuevers. In the end, however, Malenko is able to lock in the Texas Cloverleaf. El Hijo manages to reach the ropes after a desperate crawl, but Benoit distracts the ref by circling the ring and dragging him off the apron to brawl, letting Malenko drag him off the ropes to the center and reapply the hold. Santo has no choice and taps out. Konnan, who was ringside with El Hijo del Santo, did good work.

B- show.

# ? Mar 3, 2014 04:15

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

WCW is killing it.

e- sort of a weird main event on Saturday Night though

# ? Mar 3, 2014 04:45

Do not even ask: Apr 8, 2008

Captain Foo posted:

WCW is killing it.

I don't know how WCW is achieving it. Their writers have some weird synergy going on that I wish we had.

This weird pace for running shows has been killing our writing cohesiveness because we still have trouble keeping our writers around on IRC when finally it comes time for running shows and dealing with problems. It's really frustrating.

# ? Mar 3, 2014 04:57

Abrasive Obelisk: May 2, 2013; ~~I joined th~~
ROVPACK IN THE HOOUUUUSE!

he still knows...

Do not even ask posted:

I don't know how WCW is achieving it. Their writers have some weird synergy going on that I wish we had.

This weird pace for running shows has been killing our writing cohesiveness because we still have trouble keeping our writers around on IRC when finally it comes time for running shows and dealing with problems. It's really frustrating.

As part of WWF, we need a specific time to meet up about shows. For example, I knew that Raw was going on today, but when? In the morning? Nighttime?

# ? Mar 3, 2014 05:05

Der-Wreck: Feb 13, 2006; Friday nights are for Wapner!

Another thumbs-up to WCW. Everything up to and including Fall Brawl was awesome. The following Nitro was good too and set up some storylines that I am looking forward to. I'm interested in seeing how you handle the nWo.

# ? Mar 3, 2014 05:12

Edward Mass: Sep 14, 2011; 𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen𝅘𝅥𝅮

Do not even ask posted:

I don't know how WCW is achieving it. Their writers have some weird synergy going on that I wish we had.

We book by committee. For example, the business with the New World Order (that I bet will knock your socks off) narrowly defeated another option to do. We all at WCW look over everything everybody else does.

# ? Mar 3, 2014 05:28

Sanguinia: Jan 1, 2012; ~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

Do not even ask posted:

I don't know how WCW is achieving it. Their writers have some weird synergy going on that I wish we had.

This weird pace for running shows has been killing our writing cohesiveness because we still have trouble keeping our writers around on IRC when finally it comes time for running shows and dealing with problems. It's really frustrating.

I understand how the show running pace can be a frustration. I missed I think four shows pretty much entirely because of it at one point. To some degree I kind of like it honestly, because it creates a certain level of unpredictability that I think is good for this as a simulation. Fundamentally we are playing a game with very set rules and a few random elements, and we're supposed to be simulating running live TV which is super chaotic. Some disjointedness and bumps along the way helps make the environment a little more real than it would be if everything was scheduled more rigidly.

We also have to take into account that JoeRules and Littlemac before him are putting in an extraordinary effort to allow us this little exercise, so I'm more than willing to forgive any hiccups and decisions that are different than the decisions I might have made if I were running the game.

I'm sorry if you guys have had significant roadblocks interrupting your creative process, but if it helps I think you guys are doing a pretty good job, especially in certain areas, and in some areas that I thought you'd honestly been lacking you've stepped up your game. We at WCW may be overall more consistent, but you guys swing for the fences on every effort and it's paid you big dividends as or even more often than it's turned out complete duds.

You guys should be proud, and I look forward to seeing what you can do creatively if you manage to iron out any problems that have been getting in your way.

# ? Mar 3, 2014 06:37

rare Magic card l00k: Jan 3, 2011

Don't lie to them.

The real secret is that our chat is built on a lost temple filled to the brim with cocaine.

# ? Mar 3, 2014 06:48

Golden Bee: Dec 24, 2009; I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.

Something about our collaboration just works. When I have a few minutes, I touch up a story segment, seed a storyline, or revise a match. Other times, I'll just make a note ("should that really happen?"), get corrected...and everyone plays to their strengths.

The great thing is, I'll read a show and still be surprised by some of the angles that we do, or the explanations. We earn our coke.

# ? Mar 3, 2014 08:26

Skunkrocker: Jan 14, 2012; Your favorite ~~furry~~ wrestler.

I think WCW has been doing better since I left.

# ? Mar 3, 2014 18:14

JoeRules: Jul 11, 2001

Skunkrocker posted:

I think WCW has been doing better since I left.

Their Fall Brawl poster was amazing!

:smith:

# ? Mar 3, 2014 18:18

your friend sk: Dec 10, 2005; (ヤイケス!)

prograps will go up in the near future

# ? Mar 3, 2014 18:23

rare Magic card l00k: Jan 3, 2011

Skunkrocker posted:

I think WCW has been doing better since I left.

This is the most offensive thing I've ever read.

# ? Mar 3, 2014 18:50

triplexpac: Mar 24, 2007; Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

I'm really looking forward to seeing what WCW does with the NWO. I was not a fan when I first saw the debut, but if they say they have big things planned I believe it brother.

And if WWF needs someone on their booking team, I could help out.

# ? Mar 3, 2014 19:22

your friend sk: Dec 10, 2005; (ヤイケス!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsNaR6FRuO0

quote:

Welcome to Prograps Unlimited, Issue 15!

Good evening marks! We're a little late this week because we've been working on some interesting news out of Japan. Enjoy:

Ratings Update: The WCW office is "slightly panicked" after Fall Brawl only earned a 1.97 buyrate. RAW down to a 3.30, Nitro up to a 3.08.

Land of the Setting Sun: New Japan has recently been having a lot of trouble paying its workers on time (or at all), which some puroresu authorities are saying could cause the company's personnel to begin looking for deals stateside. The most recent casualty of NJPW's money troubles: Shinya Hashimoto has given NJPW only six days' notice for his departure to WCW.

Two Musketeers: WCW has begun picking at the almost-carcass of New Japan Pro Wrestling. Turner and company have managed to sign Keiji Mutoh and Shinya Hashimoto, who along with Masahiro Chono were considered the "Three Musketeers" of the Japanese promotion. NJPW has already been in rough shape recently, and this is only going to make things rougher.

New New Japan: With Mutoh leaving New Japan in a few days, it is believed that his match against Kensuke Sasaki this week was his last with the company. Sasaki picked up the win in the match and the crowd was said to be very respectful to the departing Mutoh. Sources are saying that NJPW will likely rely on Masahiro Chono and Kensuke Sasaki as top stars, with other major stars Hiroshi Hase, Yuji Nagata, Riki Choshu, and The Great Sasuke.

Big in Japan: While WCW has started poaching in New Japan, WWF is instead turning to All Japan Pro Wrestling for new talent. Contrary to information submitted by a source in the WWF writers' room last week, Mitsuharu Misawa has NOT been signed to a deal. However, they have successfully signed Stan Hansen away from AJPW.

Bad Badford: Louis Spicolli, wrestling as Rad Radford, has been released from WWF.

Mean Wean: "Mean" Gene Okerlund has been released from WCW. Also leaving the promotion are Steve Doll and The Mauler.

Something is Cooking: Flex Kavana, a member of the legendary Samoan Anoa'i clan, has defeated Brian Christopher to win the USWA Heavyweight Championship.

Check in every Tuesday (or so) for the biggest news in the Monday Night War!

S.K.

# ? Mar 3, 2014 19:51

Skunkrocker: Jan 14, 2012; Your favorite ~~furry~~ wrestler.

Great White Hope posted:

This is the most offensive thing I've ever read.

Have you read Mein Kampf?

Seriously all joking aside why was that offensive?

# ? Mar 3, 2014 19:56

rare Magic card l00k: Jan 3, 2011

Skunkrocker posted:

Have you read Mein Kampf?

No, but Dusty sent me a summary when recommending alternate names for GCW.

Skunkrocker posted:

Seriously all joking aside why was that offensive?

Because it's not the same in The World of World Championship Wrestling without The Skunkrocker.

# ? Mar 3, 2014 19:58

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# ? Apr 27, 2024 00:48

Skunkrocker: Jan 14, 2012; Your favorite ~~furry~~ wrestler.

Great White Hope posted:

No, but Dusty sent me a summary when recommending alternate names for GCW.

Because it's not the same in The World of World Championship Wrestling without The Skunkrocker.

Well I appreciate that, and I am coming back. Soon, actually. As soon as I finish working on my current art project.

# ? Mar 3, 2014 20:04

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