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ACoolT5 posted:I posted this on Reddit a while back, thought some of you might want the whole thing. kind of hoping this is what happens now
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It seems like they have changed at least some of the things in that draft based on what we've seen in the trailer.
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# ? May 18, 2014 19:50 |
If it doesn't have any kind of riff on this image I'm gonna be mildly disappointed.
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# ? May 18, 2014 21:26 |
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SALT CURES HAM posted:If it doesn't have any kind of riff on this image I'm gonna be mildly disappointed. Have any other movies dealt with space travel and time dilation? It's like time travel's smarter-but-dorkier relative who sits in back while his big brother gets all the attention.
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# ? May 18, 2014 21:43 |
Pierson posted:For those who don't want to try and google it, that's a scene from the anime Gunbuster, an old 90s sci-fi miniseries that also dealt with humans traveling through space at near-light speeds, and how relativity could gently caress up a person's life and relationships. It suffers from severe mood whiplash for the first couple of episodes and has some questionable scenes, but has some great scenes and setpieces, and a legitimately amazing finale. Like the Forever War, if training to fight aliens took place at an all-girl's gym meet before the heroes are shipped off to war. To be more specific (since I was deliberately being vague so nobody who didn't recognize it would get spoiled), (MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD) that picture is literally the last shot of the miniseries. In the last episode, the heroes basically go on a suicide mission to destroy the Space Monsters that are threatening humanity, and due to time dilation they come back thousands of years later to what looks like a dead Earth, and assume they didn't make it in time... then the city lights come up to spell the phrase "WELCOME HOME" in Japanese. Even without context, it's an incredibly powerful image, but with context, I'd say it makes more grown men cry than just about any other similar thing I've seen.
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# ? May 18, 2014 21:57 |
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WarLocke posted:How would you do a sequel to Event Horizon? I thought the ending was perfectly ambiguous. I like the joke that Warhammer 40K is the far-futre sequel to Event Horizon. second-hand smegma posted:I really wanted to like Event Horizon, but all I took away from it was this classic gem of 90s stereotyping. The rest of the movie is a total blur. I'm not sure I'd call it that, because that's more of an inversion of the "Black Guy Dies In Sci-Fi". Any other film, he would be dead the moment the Lewis and Clark exploded. His appearance even saves the day by distracting blind Sam Neill with the bolt gun into firing it into the windscreen, causing him to get vented out of the ship.
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# ? May 18, 2014 21:59 |
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Pierson posted:Have any other movies dealt with space travel and time dilation? It's like time travel's smarter-but-dorkier relative who sits in back while his big brother gets all the attention. Not a movie, but Poul Anderson's novel Tau Zero is my favourite thing about this. A group of travelers on a craft powered by a Bussard ramjet travel across space. They pass through a nebula and the device gets damaged, so it gradually picks up speed until billions of years are passing outside the ship. It's pretty great.
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# ? May 18, 2014 23:07 |
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Pierson posted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjuyXR5by2s
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# ? May 18, 2014 23:24 |
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Not a movie I think there was a distinction to be had. Time dilation has been covered very much so in science fiction literature before. As for a film that slightly tackles it, it's a plot point of Flight Of The Navigator. The lead character is a boy taken as a specimen into a spaceship in 1978, was taken to an alien planet and examined and experimented on by alien scientists, both the journey and exam taking two hours relative time, then reappearing on Earth in 1986. His family is now older and, thinking of him as a missing person and probably dead, moved away from their home.
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# ? May 18, 2014 23:29 |
"Oops we traveled too fast and time dilated ourselves in to the far future" is the start of Planet of the Apes.
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# ? May 19, 2014 01:56 |
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Time Dilation is basically a modern form of the cryogenic craze so anything where you freeze yourself for years could theoretically apply.
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# ? May 19, 2014 02:00 |
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WarLocke posted:How would you do a sequel to Event Horizon? I thought the ending was perfectly ambiguous. Event Horizon is on my dream list of movies I'd love to see the director's cut of. Paul WS Anderson mentioned at SDCC a couple years back that he'd actually come across a complete cut of the movie and was interested in releasing a director's cut at some point, too.
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# ? May 19, 2014 03:55 |
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Pierson posted:Have any other movies dealt with space travel and time dilation? It's like time travel's smarter-but-dorkier relative who sits in back while his big brother gets all the attention. Contact? Heh.
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# ? May 19, 2014 13:27 |
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This is my impression without any spoiler after the first real trailer: There are way too much plots in the movie before the space mission. It's going to take up at lease 1 hr to 90 min of the movie. This is bad. This is probably Contact bad. I personally hate contact, mostly for how they portrait the alien. I don't think this movie will live up to Nolan's best, which in my opinion is Inception. And the "monster" as far as I can tell is climic change/environmental disaster, so the space mission is either going to the past to prevent it or going to an alternate earth to prevent it (like Neal Stephenson's Anathem but way less cool).
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# ? May 19, 2014 14:28 |
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Event Horizon had really crazy and pretty cool concepts going for it. (HELL IN SPACE ALSO SAM NEILL) but overall it was a pretty flawed movie. I'd love to see a sequel or see it remade in a nice way
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# ? May 19, 2014 21:47 |
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glasnost toyboy posted:Contact? Heh. Contact is almost an inverted time dilation scenario in everything is reversed the trip takes 18 hours relative to Arroway's voyage but takes seconds as perceived from Earth. Young Freud fucked around with this message at 00:59 on May 20, 2014 |
# ? May 20, 2014 00:57 |
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whatever7 posted:This is my impression without any spoiler after the first real trailer: There are way too much plots in the movie before the space mission. It's going to take up at lease 1 hr to 90 min of the movie. This is bad. This is probably Contact bad. I personally hate contact, mostly for how they portrait the alien. I don't think this movie will live up to Nolan's best, which in my opinion is Inception. This is a wonderful parody of how goons post about trailers. 5/5
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# ? May 20, 2014 02:37 |
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Pierson posted:Have any other movies dealt with space travel and time dilation? It's like time travel's smarter-but-dorkier relative who sits in back while his big brother gets all the attention.
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# ? May 20, 2014 02:43 |
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This movie looks like a big budget extended music video for Queen's '39. I hope it ends up in the soundtrack somewhere.
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# ? May 20, 2014 03:05 |
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Man, dude can narrate like a mother-fucker.
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# ? May 20, 2014 03:40 |
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Perhaps it's because I went into that trailer with previous knowledge about the movie (from Nolan interviews), but I'm really appreciative of the ambiguity. So I wasn't unsatisfied or left feeling confused or empty handed. Like a few others have pointed out, I am hoping that too much time isn't spent on the story pre-launch into space. However, I do like how the trailer is focused on that because it's leaving everything post-wormhole a mystery. Personally, I wouldn't want to see anything from that point on in the trailers because of how absolutely mind blowing it'd be to sit in that theater on opening night and not know what in the world to expect. Which is exactly what the characters in the film are presumably feeling as well; they've no clue what awaits them. It'd be a very strong move, to me, for the production company or whoever edits together the trailers to keep it that way and only give vague hints up until the film's release. Instead focusing on the character's motivations and the reason for the journey.
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# ? May 20, 2014 08:12 |
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Trailer didn't impress me at all but Memento, The Prestige and Inception are all amazing films so there's no doubt in mind Nolan will deliver once again. Just need to make some room for that poster because, gently caress, that's a nice looking poster!
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# ? May 20, 2014 12:25 |
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There was a discussion video from the videogames site IGN dissecting this linked from the trailer which I checked out as I hate myself, and they mentioned that they've 'heard' that most of what happens in the trailer is from the first 15 minutes of the film. So concerns that half of the film will be spent establishing the relationships may be unfounded. Then again, they also stated when the warp bubble was shown "That's clearly the planet they're traveling towards"...so uh, yeah. My god though, the music. Best part of it. Edit: Sucks that only fantastical parts of the trailer are the ones involving space: Happy_Misanthrope fucked around with this message at 19:17 on May 20, 2014 |
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Pretty decent chance the movie starts in space or something akin to it. Nolan loves putting exciting poo poo in his first scene, and both Inception & The Prestige started non-linearly. I'd say the chance of the movie starting slow isn't very high. Based on the trailer it also seems like we're perhaps headed for alternate dimensions, given the way that Cooper re-frames Murphy's Law from the standard "anything that can go wrong, will go wrong" to "anything that can happen, will happen."
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# ? May 20, 2014 16:54 |
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whatever7 posted:This is my impression without any spoiler after the first real trailer: There are way too much plots in the movie before the space mission. It's going to take up at lease 1 hr to 90 min of the movie. This is bad. This is probably Contact bad. I personally hate contact, mostly for how they portrait the alien. I don't think this movie will live up to Nolan's best, which in my opinion is Inception. You know, when I watch movies like Elysium or Man of Steel where there's literally 40 consecutive minutes of dumb action without any character development whatsoever, I always wonder "who likes this? wouldn't you rather have 15-20 minutes of meaningful action after a well conceived story that makes you care about the characters?". Trailer looked amazing.
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# ? May 21, 2014 20:15 |
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What's up with them being immersed in liquid (water?) in the pods? The first stage of a cryogenic process, or something else?
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# ? May 22, 2014 00:25 |
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Hot Sexy Jupiter posted:What's up with them being immersed in liquid (water?) in the pods? The first stage of a cryogenic process, or something else? It's because (Nobody knows the movie isn't out yet)
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# ? May 22, 2014 00:26 |
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Hot Sexy Jupiter posted:What's up with them being immersed in liquid (water?) in the pods? The first stage of a cryogenic process, or something else? Wild guessing here, but either cryogenics or just acceleration protection; liquid immersion helps protect from high G-forces (basically spreads out the force of acceleration across the whole body evenly if I understand right). Either one makes sense since it appears they head out into the outer solar system to find the thing, so they're gonna take a long time and/or have to take some pretty significant acceleration to get there quickly.
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# ? May 22, 2014 01:52 |
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Yeah I'd guess it's more acceleration protection than anything. They do the same thing in Even Horizon.
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# ? May 22, 2014 01:59 |
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Happy_Misanthrope posted:There was a discussion video from the videogames site IGN dissecting this linked from the trailer which I checked out as I hate myself, and they mentioned that they've 'heard' that most of what happens in the trailer is from the first 15 minutes of the film. So concerns that half of the film will be spent establishing the relationships may be unfounded. They're probably 'heard' that from the leaked 2008 draft of the script, which gets the ball rolling decently fast. In fact, if that draft is anywhere near close to the final product they probably don't have much more that they could put in a trailer at this point, since there's gonna be a lot of CGI work done.
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# ? May 22, 2014 06:20 |
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Geno posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSWdZVtXT7E "It's an Indian surveillance drone! Its solar sails power an entire farm!" Wait, WHAT? Okay since when does a surveillance drone need to power a loving farm? Why? And how is that even supposed to work? I mean I know this is the future and all, but look at this thing. Does that even look like something that can power a farm? And how does it do it, remotely? Also, which farm is it powering, the American farm? So this is apparently an INDIAN surveillance drone that flies around powering AMERICAN farms instead of doing any actual surveillance?
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 23:01 |
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about_face posted:"It's an Indian surveillance drone! Its solar sails power an entire farm!" Please continue to explain to me how the future technology works/should work.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 23:08 |
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I figured that he meant the solar cells on the drone's wings could be used to power a whole farm. There was that one NASA solar powered airplane that flew around for a very long period of time using solar cell covered wings.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 23:11 |
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GonSmithe posted:Please continue to explain to me how the future technology works/should work. The thing is, remote power supply isn't a sci-fi thing, they're genuinely doing it these days. Admittedly at tiny distances, but they're hoping to be better at it sooner or later and I have no issue with sci-fi using that. What annoys me about it is that apparently the solar sails power both the drone's constant movement AND the farm.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 23:17 |
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about_face posted:What annoys me about it is that apparently the solar sails power both the drone's constant movement AND the farm.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 23:38 |
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Josh Lyman posted:Who says the energy captured can't do that? Solar power is simply not a reliable source of energy. You can trust me on this, I wrote my dissertation on the subject.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 23:43 |
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about_face posted:Solar power is simply not a reliable source of energy. You can trust me on this, I wrote my dissertation on the subject. Okay, now please write me a dissertation on how the sun operates in this movie and the exact future technology they are using so I can know for sure that the gizmos in a sci-fi film do not work properly. Thanks.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 23:44 |
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I have a PhD in how the science in science fiction movies works!
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 23:52 |
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about_face posted:Solar power is simply not a reliable source of energy. You can trust me on this, I wrote my dissertation on the subject.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 23:56 |
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Doesn't the sun usually come out like... every day?
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