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Yes and no. There are some legitimately well written and presented visual novels, but they are the vast minority in the genre. A lot of people who think they can write actually can't. This isn't news. Porn is one of the only ways to spice up the genre since its gameplay elements are generally very thin, and it's well received because the entire reason most people look at porn is because they don't want to go through the usual trouble for a sexual thrill. So, a lot of visual novels incorporate porn. The overall market still hasn't got a good idea of what it wants to do with visual novels, really. A lot of VNs try to have branching paths and some thin idea of gameplay (Long Live the Queen, for example) but that's generally not well received. The visual novels I've seen that have tried to just be picture books where you read, look at the graphic, press enter, repeat for 9 hours until you finish the story have also not been well received, despite the fact that's more or less exactly what you do with a Kindle, sans pictures.
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# ¿ May 10, 2014 19:57 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 18:31 |
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It's so weird reading over these experiences now that I'm done with the episode. On one hand, I feel like the biggest beep boop in the history of beep boops, but on the other hand, I still showed a lot more compassion than most of you jerks. I did my best to be cooperative with everything and find middle ground where I could - helping Sarah and telling Reggie we won't get him in trouble were no-brainers. It's a survival situation in a hostile society, friends are your guns, knives, and medkits here. I was cool with Bonnie, she's a dumbass but she's a useful dumbass. Tried to take blame on myself and stick up for people as much as I could to garner favors, especially after the chat in Carver's office where it's revealed he respects her. I 'd when Reggie died, he was a good guy deep down. Kenny called it, really, he'd just drank too much of the kool-aid and was indoctrinated. Rehabilitation in that situation is possible, and anyone tough enough to survive an amputation has uses. Then the poor guy got flung off the roof. I just stayed quiet in Carver's office. Idiots like him love to hear themselves talk, so it was best to just let him get it out. I stuck around to watch Carver's murder, not out of any sense of revenge but to confirm the loving kill. We have demonstrated proof that this guy will spend an absurd amount of time and resources chasing us down and making us miserable. He has to not be able to do that again, and if Kenny's got his way of doing it, fine, but we are making sure his way of doing it gets it done. It's not the way I would've preferred it done, but whatever, you can't always get what you want. I was actually REALLY surprised when Carver didn't draw his revolver during that whole scene - I was practically chomping at the bit to disarm him. Again, not out of any sense of revenge or avarice, I just didn't want him to get one last lick in, the way Alvin had literally just done to one of those douchebag guards. I attacked the walker biting Sarita almost before I realized there was a choice. I hesitated for a moment after realizing there was a second choice, but still attacked the walker because it coincided with the task at hand. Horde around us right now. Escape first. Deal with bites and injuries later, can't handle it right now. First things first, etc. So I'm about as robotic as it gets apparently. The hell does that say about you guys? Coolguye fucked around with this message at 16:39 on May 15, 2014 |
# ¿ May 15, 2014 16:27 |
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escalator dropdown posted:Re: Luke. His behavior was totally off beyond just being tired, which he assuredly is. At first, I also thought he might be hiding a bite. My other thought was that he was hiding the details of his plan -- that he was going to draw the lurker horde to the compound, and he thought Clem would disapprove. (This was before Kenny proposed that exact plan.) His symptoms are completely consistent with sleep deprivation. He talks quickly and seems jumpy before nearly nodding off because adrenaline is the only thing that's holding him together. This is also the reason for poo poo coloration, his blood isn't fueling things the way it should because he's jacked up on adrenaline and his blood vessels are constricted. This is absolutely classic of someone who is pushing themselves hard and it absolutely stuns me that so many people thought it was a bite.
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# ¿ May 15, 2014 23:02 |
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laplace posted:Why does everyone think that locking Clem in the shed is "bad writing"? It's super clear that Carlos just wanted you dead in case you were one of Carver's goons. That's better writing than a group of paranoid strangers just accepting a murder machine child into their fold just because 'it's a dog bite lol also I'm a survivalist 11 year old' The big complaint I saw people expressing was less that she got locked in the shed, and more that she got locked in the shed without having her arm stitched up. It made Carlos look like a really lovely doctor at first glaze and caused a lot of distracting questions, even I thought he was actually putting people on about having medical training until this episode.
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# ¿ May 16, 2014 01:33 |
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I've generally liked this season more than the first, I think. It's got all the tension and uncertainty of the first season, but they seem to be pulling a lot of punches on the emotional terrorism. It's strange, I kind of felt like that was the defining thing in season 1 and would've told you that you could take it from me over my full and unopened wallet, but I don't miss it really. They do a good job of sucking me in and making me hold my breath without kicking me square in the nuts afterward. Not that they've forgotten how. I played with you, doggins.
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# ¿ May 16, 2014 04:49 |
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Feminition posted:Anyway, appreciated the parallel between Clem getting smacked, which is still cringe-inducing but otherwise easy to bounce back from, and Sarah, which was downright monstrous and damaging. Kind of partly due to who it came from, obviously, but just another highlight of the sheer difference in mental age and resilience between the two girls. I really wonder how Sarah will remember her father if we catch up to her alive again; have a sneaking suspicion it might be determined with that one comforting dialogue choice.
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# ¿ May 16, 2014 06:33 |
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I've liked the dynamic a lot more. In conversations even Lee was mostly helpless, since between Kenny and Lily (and later, Ben) there was a grand total of one way to affect the path of a conversation in all of Season 1 (talking Kenny down in the train). Idiots butting heads always took precedence, because dick Lee would just feed into it and good guy Lee would get shouted down. Then they would all expect him to save the day anyway. Now it's more stark how this works because they're ignoring a little girl instead of a fully grown man while still expecting her to save the day. At least with ep 3's dillemmas these problems mostly made sense, though. The current dynamic feels more honest to me in that I couldn't understand Lee not losing his poo poo from time to time and using some of his hard-earned influence to make people calm the ever living gently caress down and talk like adults. It would've solved a lot of problems in S1 and might've even kept a few people alive. With Clem being a kid she can play the 'I'm the only one who gets poo poo done' card all she wants, dickbags still gonna dick. Coolguye fucked around with this message at 17:27 on May 19, 2014 |
# ¿ May 19, 2014 17:22 |
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jabby posted:EDIT: Also as a medical student I noticed a slight goof with Carlos' doctoring. The bone around the eye is called the orbit, not the orbital. Also, exactly what did he do to 'stabilize [Kenny] as much as possible' with no drugs or equipment? It's probably just shaky writing rather than having any significance, but its annoying how often this genre assumes doctors have magical healing powers.
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# ¿ May 26, 2014 05:52 |
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jabby posted:I kind of want to see Clem's arm. I'm losing track of how long this season has happened over, but she stitched herself up with fishing line. Pretty sure that needs to come out at some point. Really she's extremely lucky it didn't get infected even with the hydrogen peroxide.. The foaming you see as she disinfects her arm with the peroxide is actually a really bad sign, too. Bacteria only do that if they are lysing the peroxide and protecting themselves from it - vulnerable bacteria simply die without fanfare. Her wound was certainly not fully clean when she stitched it.
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# ¿ May 30, 2014 20:25 |
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Wiseblood posted:The bubbles are from oxygen being released when peroxide comes into contact with catalase. Correct. The specific reaction is 2H2O2 goes to 2H2O + O2, catalase omitted for simplicty's sake. The point is that if peroxide is being lysed to water and oxygen, you are not disinfecting poo poo. Because it is just oxygen and water. If you've got further questions about this dynamic I can explain it on the particle level if need be.
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# ¿ May 30, 2014 21:10 |
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Call Me Charlie posted:I haven't finished playing episode three but does every choice in the greenhouse cause Carver to throw the one armed guy off the roof? Because I laughed pretty hard when it happened after I blamed the guy for not showing us how to trim the plants. My Clem was extremely hostile to him and to have that be the end result was pretty messed up. The other hint that this is unavoidable is that one of the achievements pops up after it happens and basically tells you outright that it is.
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# ¿ May 31, 2014 01:02 |
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The biggest similarity I run between my Lee and my Clem is that they are both really honest. Talking just plain doesn't work with a lot of people in this world (Carver), but lying works even less often because a proper lie relies on all parties involved in perpetrating the lie understanding the score. I simply don't remember the last time there was a proper and durable understanding between two characters. Lies never last for that reason. No sense in throwing bad faith after bad actions, in that case. Coolguye fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Jun 11, 2014 |
# ¿ Jun 11, 2014 18:43 |
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I've liked S2 better as well. S1 was fantastic, but there was much more of a feeling that every time you played it, you were going to get kicked in the balls so hard your testicles were going to flop out of your rear end. There's been one or two situations like that in S2, and I maintain that S2 has the single most traumatic moment of the entire series right now, but outside of those big face punches, S2 has had more solid writing and situations that are easier to just have fun with.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2014 18:17 |
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turgon posted:So what. She put the baby into a truck and shut the door. She did it purposefully in order to provoke a fight to prove some kind of retarded rear end point. It was completely out of character and made no sense, that was my only real complaint with this episode. Was her point that Kenny would kill someone who had their hand in the death of a newborn... that only makes my initial impressions and bond with Kenny stronger. This was really my big reservation about the ending. The entire build-up to the Jane/Kenny fight seemed outrageously contrived. The two of them had bigger problems than each other in Clem's injury and unconsciousness, and then getting to a safer spot. The fact that neither of them would listen to Clementine trying to make peace in the car, when that has worked at least a dozen times before between the two of them, stood out as weird, and the entire thing where Jane almost literally used an infant as a political football (seriously, that was such a lovely plan I'm surprised she didn't dropkick the baby just to really drive it home) was totally out of left field for a character who spent the last four hours of gameplay slowly opening up to Clem and re-learning what it was to be a functional human. The entire situation lost its sizzle for me when I smelled Jane's dumb trick because it took me out of the game. The entire season had been relatively light on the emotional ball-kicking and the writers were trying to fill up the quota. There was zero reason why Kenny and Jane couldn't co-exist, especially in the face of the bigger gently caress-offs of Arvo and crew. They really have a lot more in common than they have differences, and one of those common bonds is really, really enjoying having someone to hate and feel better than. And they just got 3 of those! But no, they were the only two characters left so clearly one of them has to take a dive for the last groin punch! DRAMA! My ending is just adding random chance to the stats, I think, just because I was basically clicking like a drone by halfway through the fight. Also, I'm also stunned people can think to defend Arvo. He was basically a shitstain the entire time, even if you missed out on the subtle ways he was trying to murder people, the way he antagonizes Kenny by cursing at him after he's completed his end of the bargain is a loving red-blaring klaxon that the rear end in a top hat is living for spite. I've generally made as many efforts as I can to save everyone in all these episodes (as futile as I know that is), but even I couldn't WAIT to get rid of that gently caress. Cap him, cut him loose, whatever, doesn't matter, just get him the gently caress away. Oh wait, shot Clem. What a douche. Coolguye fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Aug 28, 2014 |
# ¿ Aug 28, 2014 05:51 |
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Lt. Danger posted:Jane's plan only works because she is right. She thinks it's better to expose Kenny's violent streak in a controlled situation (where AJ is safe and hidden) than encounter it in a true emergency (like if AJ actually did die in a blizzard - and if Clem was the one with him at the time). It is not even a little bit OK to use a child as a political football, and the closer that expression is to literal the less OK it is. It's practically literal in the last scene and completely destroys the character development Jane had been having for the last 2 episodes. Her arc was much less about Clem being a sister stand-in and much more about learning to be a functional human being again - a very poignant theme considering that the rest of the group was CHOCK FULL of formerly functional human beings who were coming apart at the seams due to the apocalypse. Nick and his desperate attempts to be less of a gently caress-up, Kenny and his losing everything all over again, loving Carver and literally everything about him. Jane provided a very nice backdrop of the opposite side of the coin; someone who had survived, gotten hardened, gotten good at getting by, and was now a completely shattered person anyway because simple survival isn't surviving - it's waiting to die. The campfire scene all but overtly states this theme. poo poo, she even has a 'rock bottom' moment while threatening Arvo in Episode 4, where she asks herself how the gently caress she got here, messing with 'some kid'. That last scene is something the Jane of Episode 3 would have pulled. She's been one of the most interesting and dynamic characters of Season 2, and arguably one of the only ones to have a real character arc instead of existing more or less to be a player choice device (like Nick or Alvin) or to simply reflect the player's character (like Sarah). It is not at all surprising that people would react poorly to a sudden and inexplicable regression, particularly in the face of both a higher priority than her rivalry with Kenny (Clementine and her injuries) and one of her traditional emotional fetishes (someone to blame for bad things happening in Mike, Bonnie, and Arvo - she shares this fetish with Kenny, even more ironically). And I mean this from both a player perspective and a character perspective. What I'm saying here is that even if you divorce it from the emotional arguments there's also a really good structural argument for why people would react really badly to the dumb-rear end plan Jane has. It's very much a 'bitch, I thought we were past this' moment, and it has fatal results. Hell, in a moment of what I can only figure is literary self-awareness, even Jane admits it's retarded if you ask her what the gently caress is wrong with her after shooting Kenny.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2014 16:11 |
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It is amazing to see how hostile people are getting toward each other over trying to reconcile the biggest dropped ball in the writing of all of these episodes. The entire last segment of season 2 makes practically no sense whatsoever, and folks are practically flaming each other in here over it.Lt. Danger posted:Sure, but Kenny is a tragic character and something needs to expose that flaw so his arc can be complete. A simulated emergency is the best way to do this, because it's clear (or should be clear to non-broken people) that Kenny's reaction was inappropriate and catharsis can be had when Kenny realises he's no longer fit to be around family, the only thing he cares about. You can say similar things about Jane but I think the season as a whole is more focused on Kenny's development than Jane's. Regarding the relapse <-> insanity thing, I think those two things are part in parcel. We spent the last 2 episodes learning how Jane can do some really terrible things in the name of what's best for her, and Clem's influence has been all about pulling her back from that brink. Then she doesn't go back to that, she seemingly jumps over the ledge like a loving base jumper, and yeah, that sort of perceived betrayal seems insane. So insanity in return seems justified. I'm not saying that it is, I am saying that the way people rationalizing this, on both sides, makes sense to me. And the reason the rationalizations come off flat to others is because realistically they should've never been in this situation in the first place. Coolguye fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Aug 28, 2014 |
# ¿ Aug 28, 2014 16:25 |
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Yeah, I would be interested to know how that changed the last scene. We all seem to be confused as to who Luke would be standing in for there. My initial interpretation was that he would have replaced Kenny, but upon reflection it makes just as much sense for him to have replaced Jane.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2014 16:42 |
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1stGear posted:Things would have been improved if Jane had been introduced earlier in the season, like Episode 1 or early Ep.2, and the conflict had been between her and Luke's ideals of staying together and loyalty even when its tough. I'm not entirely certain what to do with Kenny in this though. The problem is that really requires Kenny to die the chump's death instead, or just be completely MIA for the entire scene. Neither are particularly satisfying. The former is killing off a major character because he's not convenient in the 11th hour, the latter is almost one for one repeating what they did in the first season. On an unrelated note, I think my largest problem with this season has been how many chump deaths there were. In season 1, pretty much every death was a big climax, narratively. People died to show major themes off or to complete plot lines. The only exception was the train hobo who told Lee to teach Clem to shoot, and to cut her hair. I don't even remember that guy's name because he was so obviously picked up to just say those two lines and then to run off and die because he wasn't convenient anymore. But that was the only time someone got ruined and it just seemed gratuitous. In season 2 there are a lot of deaths that are kind of one big shrug.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2014 17:10 |
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Sonance posted:I never really understood why everyone just assumed Arvo was going to lead them to a big ol' stockpile of food and everything was going to work out fine. This was always going to be the more likely scenario: I'd actually be really curious to get a transcription of some of what Arvo's group was saying at the end of Ep 4/beginning of Ep 5. Arvo translates some of it for the player, but there's clearly a lot that doesn't get said.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2014 17:19 |
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1stGear posted:Dang, its a shame Jane didn't use her psychic powers to realize that a guy she thinks is a unstable psycho and is currently calling her attempts at explanation bullshit and saying he's done talking would have stopped if she had revealed the baby was okay. Obliterati posted:Has anything been said about their intent to do a Season 3? I figure there's no details yet but I'd definitely hope there is one. Coolguye fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Aug 28, 2014 |
# ¿ Aug 28, 2014 17:50 |
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Arikado posted:A third season was confirmed at Comic Con. No details other than it's going to happen. Oh, cool! Lt. Danger posted:Jane's plan isn't to explore what happens when you lie to Kenny. Jane's plan is to explore how Kenny reacts when something goes wrong, e.g. the baby dying. Jane's hypothesis is that Kenny assumes the worst of an ambiguous situation and goes batshit insane. Her conjecture is proven correct. Also, like I mentioned in my last CIA redaction, Kenny's already had at least one of those moments in Ep 5. Arguably there were 2 of them. He snaps out of it and goes into the whole 'everything will be ok' motions, mostly because the episode isn't over yet when they happen. The rest stop scene adds nothing to Kenny's character and really just comes off as filling a ball-punch quota. Arguably it worked anyway because people are yelling at each other on the internet about it but that doesn't mean I find it any less ridiculous.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2014 18:13 |
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Regarding the walkers, you guys are touching on something that people have been gigging TWD for since the comic books; the nuts and bolts of getting along in the universe are basically hand-waved away until the writers decide to make them an issue. Walkers are chaff until a herd shows up at the arbitrarily worst moment, food is never an issue until people are starving, and ammo is never mentioned until you're out. On one hand this is fine since the focus in TWD is interactions between the human characters, on the other hand it can really take you out of the situation at times. This happened in ep 5 at one point so bad I got whiplash. When Clem gives Jane the baby for a moment, there's a funny moment where the baby spits up on Jane, and then Clem takes AJ back for a second. There's a brief cut-away to Jane wiping her coat off, and then it pans back to Clem, who is out of loving nowhere holding a baby bottle that was nowhere in the scene a few seconds prior.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2014 18:22 |
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Roman Reigns posted:Also I had no idea Jesus worked on TWD too
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2014 18:32 |
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team overhead smash posted:Thinking about it, although I never liked Kenny and thought he was a hindrance in both seasons they really shat all over him in this last episode, turning him into someone I can really hate. With his willingness to just straight up murder people in cold blood, he's actually become worse than Carver who at least tried to rehabilitate people rather than straight up killing them haha that one-armed dude wants a word with you
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2014 18:34 |
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rypakal posted:Do the devs make fun of a 12 year old autistic girl again? I need trigger warnings. trigger warning: zombies
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2014 18:36 |
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team overhead smash posted:And Ben would like to have a word with people who think Kenny let someone die if they proved to be a useless gently caress-up. what're you talking about? The point was if you think Carver was trying to rehab anyone you're not paying attention.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2014 20:32 |
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Luke was just ineffectual more than anything else. He had a good heart and tried really hard to do the right thing, but he's really bad at putting together and executing a plan, which results in him making more trouble than he solves, or generally just not getting anything accomplished. The idea that the writers cited him as an alpha kind of guy is pretty
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2014 21:16 |
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Bonnie was weird as hell in my playthrough. When we were chatting out back, she made a really loaded comment about how she's "listened to a lot of different promises from a lot of different men, and ain't one of them has ever come true. Makes me wonder if there isn't a better way..." while staring at Clementine really oddly. I was like UUhhhhhhhhhhhh okaayyyyyyyy honey.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2014 22:07 |
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Junkfist posted:Yeah no kidding. "Bonnie did you just essentially tell me, an 11 year old girl, that you're DTF?" All I'm saying is, stay even further away from fanfiction sites than usual.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2014 22:23 |
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Jerusalem posted:Lee didn't like minorities? self-hating
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2014 03:22 |
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Holy poo poo this thread needs a vacation to the Imp Zone so loving bad.
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2014 17:57 |
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Blazing Ownager posted:I just stared daggers and told Mike to let him go. That bastard just got Luke killed, the last survivor other than Kenny I honestly gave a poo poo about, and I was more than happy to watch that piece of poo poo get beat to hell.
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2014 00:08 |
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Mymla posted:Jane steals his gun. This always happens. A gun is arguably a more useful tool than a bunch of medicine. For all we know, he came back home and the rest of his group asked him what happened to the gun he had. Like, what is he gonna say in that situation? This entire line of thought just falls completely flat with not only how many more and far bigger guns his group has (not to mention peoples' tendencies to pull fully automatic AK-47s directly out of their assholes in this season), but the fact that he didn't beg for his weapon at all during the confrontation, only the medicine. The standoff at the end of Ep 4/beginning of Ep 5 feels very, very stilted if it's over a revolver, and Arvo's continued antagonism just makes him seem more and more churlish. The entire dynamic is not constructed very well and is, again, an example of how the writing sorta came apart at the seams at the end of this season. But I've pointed out examples of this like half a dozen times now and people have roundly ignored me every time in favor of arguing over who's morality is better.
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2014 01:38 |
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I can't tell if you're being serious or not.
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2014 17:27 |
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Lt. Danger posted:e: Lee's murder is characterised as the reason he needs to atone with Clem for all of Season 1. Nobody thinks what Lee did was okay, even Lee. I don't bring this up to argue pro-Kenny (again, I have been taken so far out of the story's narrative by how bad the writing fell apart in Ep 5 I couldn't care less about any of these scrublords), but because it's the very definition of a double standard and you should really stop trying to boil down what is inherently a complex situation to a black and white like that. Particularly when the complex situation is made way more complex by lovely writing and game limitations. I guarantee you that if there was an option to fire off the gun alongside those two morons' heads and scream that you're going to shoot them both if they don't knock it the gently caress off, 90% of people would've taken it, because the first sentiment even a lot of the chronic arguers in this thread expressed was how restricted they felt by that arbitrary binary. Similarly, if there was a way to yell about the false subtext of the situation, 90% of people would have taken it. If that still forces the choice of the two of them going separate ways, because they can't live together, fine, whatever. The point is it's not about the acceptability of violence and these assertions otherwise are stupid. Oh yeah, and the funny thing about Jane's plan is that she presumes Kenny will assume the worst and get violent, when really her behavior is arguably even SHITTIER than he ends up assuming; it wasn't an accident, everything was on purpose to goad him into a violent episode that she couldn't control and, when she had a perfect opportunity to de-escalate after her dumbfuck point was proven, she chose to just goad him on by insulting him again. Kenny takes a huge swing at her, calls her explanation bullshit, she gets some distance and has all the time to put her knife away. "Kenny, AJ's alive. I can go get him right now. *Keep backing up* I just needed to show Clem how lovely you are. *Flat run to the truck.*" In that moment Jane is pretty much completely vindicated and has no reason to keep it going. But hey, that couldn't happen because we're short on our ball punching quota and we couldn't possibly give less of a poo poo about the integrity of these characters when that's on the line. This isn't at all about being 'logical' and what 'should have happened', this is exactly what someone with Jane's plan would have done. Which, if we're to presume the game's writing is solid (it's not), implies that when she says it was all a plan to show Clem something, it's a loving lie, she actually just wanted to murder Kenny and not make Clem hate her for it. Which means she's just as violent as Kenny! HOORAY! Coolguye fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Aug 31, 2014 |
# ¿ Aug 31, 2014 18:08 |
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Holy poo poo they go on for 90 more comments about that and the #Cluke rear end in a top hat will not stop asserting that Clem and Luke love each other romantically. As an indisputable fact.
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2014 20:40 |
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BMS posted:Something says I'm going to regret asking this, but what the gently caress is "#Cluke"?....I'm assuming it has something to do with I scanned the thread and didn't see anyone answering you: As near as I can tell it is the hash-tag that this moron came up with to reference her shipping of Clementine and Luke, so #Cluke4Ever is...well...yeah. It fortunately does not seem to relate to some deeper internet movement of pedophiles and awfulness if that's what you're afraid of.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2014 04:43 |
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Lt. Danger posted:What does violence in this situation accomplish? If you want to take the somewhat new-age literary analysis standpoint that writing is to be judged based on its ability to articulate complex motifs to a wide array of people, across cultures and experience, then your interpretation is perfectly fine because the situation made a powerful statement to you about how violence is or is not acceptable. But in this case, your experience is no more or less valid than anyone else's, and this self-righteous nonsense you keep spewing about how there's something WRONG with other people because they don't see Kenny as an abusive monster. The situation illustrated different motifs to them and you have no more right to criticize that then you do to criticize their taste in clothing. Which means you're still completely in the wrong for acting like a complete knob about your preferred interpretation. So which is it? Do you have some backing for what you're saying, like the backing you often try to find in your more formal work, or are you getting judgmental with half the self-awareness of the other arguers in the thread? Coolguye fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Sep 2, 2014 |
# ¿ Sep 2, 2014 00:26 |
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Lt. Danger posted:But you put some effort into a response, so I'll do the same.
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2014 16:18 |
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Mymla posted:We have no idea why Arvo was hiding the medicine. Calling him a junkie hiding his stash is pure conjecture. He doesn't seem to go through any withdrawals or anything during Ep 5 so I'd be inclined to believe that he isn't a junkie. That doesn't necessarily mean he's on the up and up of course but if he were addicted to painkillers he would've been shaking like a leaf for a good long while.
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2014 20:44 |