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JediTalentAgent posted:I just watched that trailer and thought it looked horrible. Even the no-budget Clerks-animated parodies like "Heroes" and "Trooper Clerks" from about 10+ years ago looked better. It's pretty depressing that Smith has been promising a DTV animated Clerks sequel for well over a decade -- to the point where I think there's even a finished script -- and the animated project he finally produces wouldn't have made it onto Icebox.com in 1999. Is anything actually happening? Also holy poo poo Icebox.com is still around
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Casimir Radon posted:Reminder that he named his daughter Harley Quinn Smith. Your point? Harley is a more than reasonable name, most people won't know her middle name unless they asked, and even if they did most of them wouldn't get the reference. It's not like he named her "Kal-el" or something similarly silly like a lot of other nerds subject their children to. There's plenty of more reasonable reasons to dislike Kevin Smith. However, reading this thread has just driven home the fact that people mostly hate Kevin Smith because its cool to do so and thus nitpick every little thing he does so they feel like a part of the group.  Kevin Smith is a pretty decent guy who occasionally says things without thinking first. But I know, I know, you guys would never do something like that right? You're just too cool.
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At least I don't make poo poo films then get really angry about it EDIT: Also now that I think about it I'm not too fat to kicked off an airplane either
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Esroc posted:Your point? Harley is a more than reasonable name, most people won't know her middle name unless they asked, and even if they did most of them wouldn't get the reference. It's not like he named her "Kal-el" or something similarly silly like a lot of other nerds subject their children to. Why you gotta go talk poo poo on Nic Cage?
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Your point? Kal is a more than reasonable name, most people won't know her middle name unless they asked, and even if they did most of them wouldn't get the reference. It's not like he named him "Harley Quinn" or something similarly silly like a lot of other nerds subject their children to. There's plenty of more reasonable reasons to dislike Nicholas Cage. However, reading your post has just driven home the fact that people mostly hate Nic Cage because its cool to do so and thus nitpick every little thing he does so they feel like a part of the group. Nic Cage is a pretty decent guy who occasionally says things without thinking first. But I know, I know, you guys would never do something like that right? You're just too cool.
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Casimir Radon posted:It helps that Nic Cage isn't a fat tub of poo poo. Didn't he slim down? Or did he get fat again?
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It seems like a lot of Kevin Smith hate comes from his personality being more in the public eye than other directors. Dude seems to wear his heart on his sleeve. I wonder how many other directors are just as weird but have the self awareness to keep it better hidden.
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A lot of directors are weird people but you don't really notice it as much because they don't have podcasts and regular events where they just talk about poo poo for like an hour.
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Griff Lee posted:This is shallow but I don't even like Clerks any more. Look at the dude's legs! They look like they are pencil thin at the ankles! Even his daughter has larger looking ankles.
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The real reason he wears such bulky clothing and spreads all the lies about breaking toilets and being too fat to fly is that he's been secretly conditioning his body into that of a lean superhero.
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The critics and haters will look up and shout "Save us!" And I'll look down, and whisper "Snoochie Boochies."
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FreudianSlippers posted:A lot of directors are weird people but you don't really notice it as much because they don't have podcasts and regular events where they just talk about poo poo for like an hour.
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Illinois Smith posted:Kevin Smith has never stopped talking about anything after only an hour in his life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2IS5WaMwx4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXiNBDp6NO0 I'm not sure if these are in fact the same video, but here have more than the runtime of the dark knight rises in discussion of it.
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Kevin Smith and Ralph Garman are always fun to listen to. The podcast where Garman was making GBS threads on Man of Steel was hilarious. Even if their opinions are sometimes goofy, their delivery of the opinions tends to be fantastic.
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FreudianSlippers posted:A lot of directors are weird people but you don't really notice it as much because they don't have podcasts and regular events where they just talk about poo poo for like an hour.
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Casimir Radon posted:I'll admit he's nowhere near as bad a person as Roman Polanski, there I said it. Being overly verbose and thin-skinned is almost saintly compared to what Polanski did. If anything, "raped an underage girl" sets way too high a bar when considering whether or not someone is a bad person. edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jan 23, 2014 |
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Vagabundo posted:If anything, "raped an underage girl" sets way too high a bar when considering whether or not someone is a bad person. Wait, when did we start talking about Woody Allen??? 
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The thing about comparing Smith to Polanski is that while Polanski is an irretrievably broken and evil person, he also makes pretty good movies, so it's possible to discuss the work without discussing the man. Smith's work currently hovers between "mediocre" and "utterly inconsequential" So there's not a whole lot of talk to do. Discussing his work isn't nearly the distraction from talking about the man that it is in the case of Polanski.
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Snowman_McK posted:The thing about comparing Smith to Polanski is that while Polanski is an irretrievably broken and evil person, he also makes pretty good movies, so it's possible to discuss the work without discussing the man. Smith's work currently hovers between "mediocre" and "utterly inconsequential" So there's not a whole lot of talk to do. Discussing his work isn't nearly the distraction from talking about the man that it is in the case of Polanski. Sure, but at least Kevin Smith isn't an unrepentant rapist paedophile scumfucker as far as we know. I guess it would have been better if the first mention of Polanski a few posts up instead said "I'll admit he's nowhere near as bad a person as DW Griffiths, there I said it" because Griffiths being a white supremacist poo poo has to come up when discussing his work. Polanski hasn't made any movies that has a heroic paedophile rapist in them, has he? I refuse to watch any of his movies on general principle so I honestly wouldn't know. edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Jan 24, 2014 |
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I'd rather have an Eternity of lovely Smith Comedies then one more Polanski films. Each one is just a reminder of escaped justice.
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Polanski has made several very great movies. My personal policy is to not buy home video releases but I go see them when they pop up in repertory and watch them streaming. If you're for some reason looking for a Polanski movie that feels  when you consider his past actions, there's Tess.e: Should mention that Tess is already amazing at making you feel awful before any consideration about Polanksi the person. leokitty fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Jan 24, 2014 |
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leokitty posted:If you're for some reason looking for a Polanski movie that feels EDIT: Got to wonder if Herzog regrets titling a film Klaus Kinski: My Best Friend. Casimir Radon fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Jan 24, 2014 |
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Casimir Radon posted:Got to wonder if Herzog regrets titling a film Klaus Kinski: My Best Friend. My best fiend (Mein liebster Feind). Their relationship was always antagonistic, because Kinski was literally a crazy person who cast himself as Jesus in a play and yelled at the crowd. While Polanski is a monster, his films are distanced from him - you can watch and enjoy them even if it turns out someone 'evil' made them. If Kevin Smith turned out to be a child-rapist (I am not saying he is, this is just sheer postulation and I mean no disrespect making this analogy) all of his body of work would become unwatchable because Silent Bob would be in the background or talking or all the characters would sound like Kevin Smith - and all his closest friends and supporters would be right there with him, enabling him on and offscreen. The entire view askewniverse would be off-limits, along with ten thousand hours of podcast material. Oddly a reading that he's a rapist or whatever (again, no disrespect) 'makes sense' in context with all the sexual stuff in his films. 90% of clerks and chasing amy and some of clerks 2 (donkey show) is about getting over sexual hangups. That's one heck of a way to open a discussion about pedophillia.
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Casimir Radon posted:
I doubt it, since that isn't the title of that movie.
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Two Worlds posted:I doubt it, since that isn't the title of that movie.
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Hbomberguy posted:My best fiend (Mein liebster Feind). Their relationship was always antagonistic, because Kinski was literally a crazy person who cast himself as Jesus in a play and yelled at the crowd. I don't know, I feel like this is just trying to make excuses. I'd just say that the fact of the matter is that Polanski is a good filmmaker and Smith is not. We enjoy ourselves despite Polanski's past because the man knows how to make a movie. We latch onto Smith's terrible personality because it bleeds out into his films, hence-forth making them terrible. This is in addition to his incompetence as a director and constant dick jokes. I mean, I have no idea how I justify watching Polanski's films to myself. The best I can think to do is just try to disconnect the art and the artist as much as I possibly can. Same with Woody Allen. Is that good, should I do that? Who's to say, maybe I shouldn't. But it's what I have to do in order to enjoy the films I like. Smith is an obnoxious rear end (comparing him to literal rapist and implying he might be one is going really over the edge), but at the end of the day, I still really like Clerks. It's his later films I can't get into, but it's easier to make a character attack on him as a person than to focus on the films themselves. This isn't to say that people here haven't fairly criticized the films, but count the number of people complaining about his attitude on the set of Cop Out vs. those arguing about the actually faults of the finished product.
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Hbomberguy posted:My best fiend (Mein liebster Feind). Their relationship was always antagonistic, because Kinski was literally a crazy person who cast himself as Jesus in a play and yelled at the crowd. We get it, you don't like Kevin Smith.
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zandert33 posted:We get it, you don't like Kevin Smith.
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There's plenty to loath Smith about, but one thing that always strikes me about his films is the weird, hamfisted way he writes black characters. The gay faux black-power cartoonist in Chasing Amy, the couple in Clerks 2[,/i] and Craig Robinson, along with his wife, in Zach and Miri Make a Porno all are these weird, dated stereotypes. It's like the only black people he's ever met are characters on UPN. It's a shame, because Craig Robinson is such a naturally funny comedian, and he has to say stupid poo poo like "Why's it gotta be BLACK coffee? RACIST!" I don't want to go all SJW on this, because I don't think there's much thought in here. Rather, Smith has some dumb idea about how cool it would be to have a hip black friend, and writes some character who only talks about black and wacky he is. It comes off as really unhip and forced. Haven't seen [i]Cop Out, but is there a lot of that kind of thing in there? Tracy Morgan's another comedian who's just naturally able to pull off something as funny, and Smith didn't write it. Still, everyone seems to hate the movie more than any of his others.
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Oh boy, it's "the Smodcast Creepshow" movie. http://www.aintitcool.com/node/65905
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TheSwami posted:Oh boy, it's "the Smodcast Creepshow" movie. http://www.aintitcool.com/node/65905 A screenplay from co-written in under a month by Kevin Smith and the guy who wrote White Checks. 
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Neo Rasa posted:A screenplay from co-written in under a month by Kevin Smith and the guy who wrote White Checks. His wife is directing a segment. I like how he uses her full name in the announcement as if we're not going to make the connection.
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bobservo posted:His wife is directing a segment. I like how he uses her full name in the announcement as if we're not going to make the connection. I hate to appear to be the Smith apologist in this thread, because I really DON'T like most of his films, but he often calls his wife "Schwalbach" instead of referring to her by her first name. I don't think he's trying to make this thing a secret. That said this sounds like it will be horrendous, but I'm just shocked by this sudden surge of stuff he's trying to get made.
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I think I might be the only person on this forum that really enjoys watching. Comic Book Men The shorter episodes of the last season had really good pacing, interesting banter and were just really fun to watch.
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xcore posted:I think I might be the only person on this forum that really enjoys watching. Comic Book Men The shorter episodes of the last season had really good pacing, interesting banter and were just really fun to watch. I tried watching the first season, but it was so boring, the people were kind of unlikable, and then when it tried to be pawn stars, I was confused. It definitely shouldn't be an hour, but the show just didn't offer anything.
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