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Rocco posted:This is insane to me. The dude thought him and his children were in danger. Two guys "sitting on his hood as a joke" was perceived as a threat and he gunned it. He had every right to protect his kids. Are people really defending the loving zombie walk over this? The people standing in the street and not moving were assholes, yes, but there was no issue until he started moving into them and honking out of impatience. Just because your kids are scared and you want to leave does not mean you get to commit assault with a deadly weapon (which he did according to California state law). Again, it's a bad situation all around. There will probably be permits and traffic officers issued next time. The woman that was hit can (and probably will) file charges, and the rest is up to the courts. e: Looks like the people in the videos and during the accident weren't even a part of the official Zombie Walk, according to SDPD. Further, Lt. Marshall White reiterated pedestrian right-of-way. October and next year's ZW events have been canceled. More details up on Deadline Axel Serenity fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Jul 29, 2014 |
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Rocco posted:This is insane to me. The dude thought him and his children were in danger. Two guys "sitting on his hood as a joke" was perceived as a threat and he gunned it. He had every right to protect his kids. Are people really defending the loving zombie walk over this? Yes, I too think it's ok to push and shove my way through a crowd when I'm being impatient. In a car. Then gun it and not give a poo poo about any of the lives that surround my vehicle. You're pretty dumb dude.
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Sire Oblivion posted:Yes, I too think it's ok to push and shove my way through a crowd when I'm being impatient. In a car. Then gun it and not give a poo poo about any of the lives that surround my vehicle. You're pretty dumb dude. Dude shouldn't have done that, but the deadspin article says someone jumped onto the hood of his car and started hitting the window. He didn't just gun it out of the blue and his kids were in the car. Don't think it's as black and white as you put it there. Bad decisions all around.
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Pedestrians involved weren't part of the zombie walk. The actual zombie walk has police escort up front and were given explicit directions to follow traffic laws and poo poo by the organizers. This is tragically an incident involving idiots and assholes that has now ruined an apparently innocent thing as the ZW people already cancelled a walk on October and next year's walk on Comic Con. Pedestrians had right of way as it was a crosswalk it getting on the hood and stopping in the crosswalk was a really stupid thing to do.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Pedestrians involved weren't part of the zombie walk. The actual zombie walk has police escort up front and were given explicit directions to follow traffic laws and poo poo by the organizers. This is tragically an incident involving idiots and assholes that has now ruined an apparently innocent thing as the ZW people already cancelled a walk on October and next year's walk on Comic Con. Dont the pedestrians have cross/don't cross lights that the have to obey? It seems like it was just nonstop crossing from what I read.
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Taste the Rainbugh posted:Dont the pedestrians have cross/don't cross lights that the have to obey? It seems like it was just nonstop crossing from what I read. Looks like a 3-way stop T intersection with no lights so technically I believe pedestrian crossing always have the right of way. Problem is when you have hundreds of people crossing. I actually have to deal with this semi-frequently if I'm visiting a job site on a big campus (OSU) during classes. You have to sit and do nothing until 3-4 people decide to stop (making others stop) giving you enough of a window to pass. This is rare though as people generally don't give a poo poo. California laws may be different but intersections like that aren't really designed for that kind of (people) traffic.
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Darke GBF posted:Yeah that Mike Tyson Mysteries panel was incredible in person. Like, sometimes the other panelists were obviously making fun of him, but he was just so sincerely cheery that it didn't matter. I will definitely watch that show. I sat through that room all day waiting for the NASA panel. I got to see a preview for the next Toy Story panel with Kristen Schaal showing up mid-panel. Sean Bean didn't show up for his own show. Watched Adam Baldwin ham it up for his fans for some show about a boat. NASA was worth the wait to see Buzz Aldrin wear a shirt that read "Get your rear end to Mars". Witcher was a strange panel. They did a live gameplay demo. I liked the decapitation you could do in gameplay. The sound was messed up so the voice actor for the main character read all his lines live.
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It wasnt a Watts style riot, the Broncos didn't just win the Superbowl or anything. It was just Comic Con. So yeah- we're taking the pedestrians side.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Pedestrians had right of way as it was a crosswalk it getting on the hood and stopping in the crosswalk was a really stupid thing to do. Being a pedestrian at the Gas Lamp is some seriously dangerous poo poo. Twice this year some rear end in a top hat kept driving ignoring a marked crosswalk (one honking like crazy at us) when we were walking through it. I get motorist get annoyed with the amount of 140,000 descending onto the streets of downtown SD, but you get a lot of motorist stupid enough to keep going in that area and acting entitled. One instance all the peds were yelling at them saying it's a cross walk as they angrily and aggressively tried to get through. Oh yeah, and don't do shrooms at con. http://imgur.com/a/XanMP Or do - that poo poo is probably a way to deal with what happens at con.
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"I should do this every year. That is, take shrooms and dive into a nightmare with an impressive boner. With a boner that would make Adam blush, and keep in mind he was the first human to ever experience a boner." This... this is loving wisdom
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So sweet, we not only had a guy try to plow through a crowd with his car this year, we also had a sexual assault! This year was amazing! http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54460 On a less sarcastic note, I did have a pretty decent year, not my best but definitely fun. There were fewer artists I was interested in this year which severely limited my buying of originals. I was however able to walk right up to Mondo on the Sunday and get three posters I really wanted, only missing maybe another 2 I would've had to wait in the hideous line for. I ran into Brian Posehn multiple times (this seems to happen like every year for me) and got to go on a elevator ride with Chip Zdarsky who was on his way to the Eisners. Got to go to the Sesame Street conversation for a cause and be like 10 feet from my greatest childhood heroes (Grover, Bert and Cookie Monster). My wife got to walk right into Hall H on Sunday morning for Supernatural without having to wait, but this seemed to be a theme for everything in Hall H that didn't happen Saturday. I'm sure there's more but it turned out to be a little moment SDCC for me this year, nothing super big or amazing just little poo poo here and there that was cool. I'm also noticing a lot of studios are putting out their "exclusive" clips online like a day or two afterward at this point which helps.
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http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Comic-Con-Cosplayer-Not-Assaulted-Police-269470211.html No sexual assault. Apparently the girl simply tried to jump a fence and fell on her head. The sad thing is, if she would have tried the door, it was probably open. Drugs are bad, mmmkay.
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Dr Tran posted:http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Comic-Con-Cosplayer-Not-Assaulted-Police-269470211.html No sexual assault but he's still being kept on sexual relations with a minor....which still doesn't make the story great. But it is good she went to the hospital from her own stupidity rather than something so vicious.
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In cities everywhere, these hangups occur almost every time a project like this is trying to get underway. It will eventually be smoothed out and the project will roll out.
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Satorr posted:In cities everywhere, these hangups occur almost every time a project like this is trying to get underway. It will eventually be smoothed out and the project will roll out. I don't think it's a matter of the project actually starting so much as when it happens. CCI's contract is up in 2016, and if the Hall H line controversy this year was any indication, the convention is on a timer. People want it in San Diego by a landslide, but there's a point wherr you have to be realistic about the infrastructure and manpower available.
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Axel Serenity posted:I don't think it's a matter of the project actually starting so much as when it happens. CCI's contract is up in 2016, and if the Hall H line controversy this year was any indication, the convention is on a timer. People want it in San Diego by a landslide, but there's a point wherr you have to be realistic about the infrastructure and manpower available. Just move it to Las Vegas!
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Axel Serenity posted:I don't think it's a matter of the project actually starting so much as when it happens. CCI's contract is up in 2016, and if the Hall H line controversy this year was any indication, the convention is on a timer. People want it in San Diego by a landslide, but there's a point wherr you have to be realistic about the infrastructure and manpower available. This is the same thing people have been saying for at least a decade now. poo poo like Hall H and Ballroom 20 and Hasbro collectible chaos aren't the be all end all of the convention. That poo poo is gonna be ugly anywhere, anytime. There is so much more to the convention than the big box stuff that makes headlines. It may be very important but it's not even close to being everything. The convention, the city and the way they deal with each other have grown together. Moving it somewhere else would be a hilarious train wreck. Imagine this ridiculous event as it is right now just showing up in another city all of a sudden. Also, do you really think the city isn't going to do whatever it takes to keep it here? The amount of revenue the con brings is insane. To lose that would be borderline catastrophic. The con's contract may be "up" in 2016 but it has been renewing on a one or two year basis for as long as I can remember. It's business as usual.
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I think the best advantage San Diego has is logistics. They've done this for years, they have the process down (for better or worse). Other places may have more size but actually operating the largest pop culture convention in the nation is the trickier part. However, logistics can only get you so far. If the convention center can't expand and CCI can't figure out some way to get more space, I can see them seriously looking elsewhere. They're already grooming Anaheim for a good sized convention with WonderCon, I can see them using it as leverage for SDCC (moving WC back to SF, though SF has their head up their asses, possibly pushing WC somewhere else). If there's one thing I'm almost positive of, SDCC is not going to Vegas. The heat will keep a lot of people from wanting to be there since a lot of the appeal is the remote stuff. You can push it all back into one building but that only lasts so long.
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Satorr posted:This is the same thing people have been saying for at least a decade now. poo poo like Hall H and Ballroom 20 and Hasbro collectible chaos aren't the be all end all of the convention. That poo poo is gonna be ugly anywhere, anytime. There is so much more to the convention than the big box stuff that makes headlines. It may be very important but it's not even close to being everything. I'm not advocating a move anywhere; I personally would love to see it stay in San Diego forever. However, the fact of the matter is that the convention is hitting its cap yearly for the first time ever, and development of the convention center has continually been stalled. Further, in almost any incident where an event is seen as being an "exclusive" event, which SDCC now is because of ticket/hotel purchasing difficulty, demand is driven up. So, it will only get worse. CCI's commitment to SD definitely has a lot to due with the city and its familiarity, but it has also been renewing its contract under the expectation that the convention center will actually be expanded to suit its size. There are tons of things to do outside the convention center, but incidents like this year's motorist accident show that those places are having the same issues as the convention center. Also, it's true they've been renewing "one or two" years for awhile, but the majority of the growth has only occurred in the last two contract extensions, which is hardly any time at all to realize the full scope of something like SDCC. The convention brings over $175M to the city every year, yes, but the convention center problems have little to do with the city. The expansion will cost upwards of $520M with several legal battles ensuing over how the project will actually be paid for (which the recent court ruling was about). Then there's also the issue of whether the San Diego Chargers owners will want to cooperate for a combined effort, or if they want to stonewall the efforts in order to get their new stadium. Basically, it is entirely out of the City of San Diego's hands at this point, because they've had the project approved for years but keep getting sued over it. The good news is that there aren't really a lot of places the convention could feasibly go. Las Vegas or Chicago are really the only two major options that have not only large exhibit space but also city infrastructure available for "outside the con" stuff. The grand majority of attendees seem against the idea of Vegas because of the heat and also because it would just be "another convention" to the city, whereas San Diego comes alive with the convention as much as the exhibit floor itself. I don't think anyone realistically considers Anaheim or Los Angeles as options at this point for a variety of factors, mostly to do with floor space and lodging available. We'll see what happens once the city of San Diego puts the issue up for a general vote, which looks like one of the only ways to actually finance the expansion at this point. However, it's incredibly naive to think "Oh, they do this every time the contract is up," because they haven't; it's only been an issue the past decade (mostly the past three years, even) and seems to have hit CCI with as much surprise as anyone. They've made accommodations on certain things like ticket purchasing to be as fair as possible, but it's safe to say that the convention will now hit its cap each and every year until something is done about it. That, in turn, will continue to stress the downtown areas as companies create off-site events to attract people without badges. Axel Serenity fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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Axel Serenity posted:I don't think anyone realistically considers Anaheim or Los Angeles as options at this point for a variety of factors, mostly to do with floor space and lodging available. Plus, while there are quite a few hotels and motels around, they generally are taken up by Disneyland visitors. (The clusterfuck created by having Disney guests fight for hotels with CC guests would be amazing though). Los Angeles would be a few steps below Anaheim. There's poo poo for hotels aside from, like, 3. And LA traffic would be a disaster. Plus it's not as squeaky clean as SD downtown. As for offsite venues, I kind of wish that the stadium would be used to project Hall H overflow or something. Maybe allowing for more streaming of junk would work to reduce attendance pressures. I could see a premium attached to allow access to Hall H streams. I'm sure the piracy logistics would make legal departments cry, though.
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Axel Serenity posted:Further, in almost any incident where an event is seen as being an "exclusive" event, which SDCC now is because of ticket/hotel purchasing difficulty, demand is driven up. So, it will only get worse. This is not necessarily true. Exclusivity is just one of many factors that go into demand. It is perfectly easy to book a hotel not in the circuit and communte using public transportation and still hit everything easily. Convention culture is on the rise nationwise. Denver is growing each year from jack nothing where I could work the biggest table sitting next to Stan Lee's autograph station to stuffed in a corner inside of a year. There are a lot of outlets that are developing and the big box events are starting to trickle in. They book and cancel now, but soon they will be trotting all the Marvel Cinematic Universe headliners for panels at these secondary cons. Watch ABC will be drop shipping Clark Gregg and supporting cast across the nation this year.
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FilthyImp posted:I think Anaheim would be a TERRIBLE venue. Whomever suggested it probably forgot that the two hotels that service the immediate ConCenter would create a terrible clog of humanity around most of the outside. There's really not much to do around the place either, unlike the Gaslamp. I definitely agree. I mean, it'd be nice just to take the Metro down from Burbank on a personal level, but LA would be a terrible venue for the Con as a whole. There's nothing to do there, and even if a ton of SDCC attendees are LA natives... we go to get out of the city for a while and enjoy San Diego. Having it in town would suck the fun out of it. Downtown LA is a ghost town after 8, anyway. I've heard of streaming panels being thrown around before, but I'm not sure the idea would take hold. It's not a studio legal thing, usually (if it was, they wouldn't be showing the footage to the public at all anyway). And a lot of panels are getting replays now. But, for a fair amount of convention goers, panels are the reason to go. Being part of the audience, seeing the celebs in person, etc. are a ton of the experience for people. Knowing it's "exclusive" in even an artificial sense is what makes people camp out for 12 hours to see this stuff. I don't get it, but it is what it is. It might cut down on casual observers who just want to see one panel, but it's hard to judge how much of the usual Hall H crowds are that demographic. TheBigBad posted:This is not necessarily true. Exclusivity is just one of many factors that go into demand. It is perfectly easy to book a hotel not in the circuit and communte using public transportation and still hit everything easily. I suppose I should rephrase: SDCC is "a thing" now, similar to what's happened with Coachella. Though, thankfully, I think the heart of SDCC is still all about the fandom at its core. Still, you get a lot of people (at least, we do up here in LA), that want to go to Comic Con because it's Comic Con. It's amazing how often you hear "Whoah, you went? I'm so jealous!" from folks here. What this means, of course, is that more and more will want to go. And, like you said, people will start looking at further hotels, but that still makes the congestion and overall crowds worse each year as people hop on the bandwagon. Personally, I've posted plenty about how much I love the crowds. I think it's the greatest part of the convention atmosphere. But, from a safety and logistical standpoint, I think CCI is going to be looking petty hard at options if San Diego keeps stalling on that expansion. If the city can clear the legal hurdles and show they are starting groundbreaking, that would be enough for CCI, I think. But, just like people have been saying "SDCC is getting too big!" for years, they've also been saying "Don't worry! The center is expanding soon!" without any results materializing. Axel Serenity fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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I'm playing to go to NYCC this October is their anywhere to ask questions about it or would this be the best place?
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XOIC of Radishes posted:Accident aside, what was your evaluation of Comic-con this year, Rocco? Speaking as an exhibitor: this Comic Con was really tough. There is too much extraneous poo poo going on for many booths to get any attention, and the show is so drat expensive that nobody has any money by the time they get to many of them. Just about every exhibitor we talked to was taking a major hit from last year. You've already seen a bunch of articles about exhibitors/booths that aren't coming back next year, and while I can't name names, I think you'll be really shocked at who isn't returning. It's not the staff's fault or anything, but the major price increase on booth space for next year didn't help the situation. It was a real bummer ending to the whole thing. That being said- the panel we ran went really well and was super fun. I have never done that Walking Dead stadium thing, but a couple of our gang got invited to that and said it was rad as well.
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Axel Serenity posted:I definitely agree. I mean, it'd be nice just to take the Metro down from Burbank on a personal level, but LA would be a terrible venue for the Con as a whole. There's nothing to do there, and even if a ton of SDCC attendees are LA natives... we go to get out of the city for a while and enjoy San Diego. Having it in town would suck the fun out of it. Downtown LA is a ghost town after 8, anyway. There's stuff to do in LA but the problem is it's so spread out that there's no way you're going to do anything without a car. Also Downtown becomes the most lively after 8 because that's when all of the crackheads come out of the woodwork trying to slang you some Oxy; it's horrid. San Jose is pretty good with accommodating Fanime but there isn't poo poo-all to do in the city after dark.
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This. The beauty of having the Con in San Diego is that it's in such a great part of town, with so many restaurants and other places in easy walking distance. I'm in the LA area and Con here would be a disaster. The LA Convention Center is fine for smaller ones like Stan Lee's Comikaze, but not something with the size and sprawl of SDCC, and certainly not where you'd want to stay late and have fun (downtown LA is boring or nasty).
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I love SDCC and would love for it to continue to be SDCC for years to come, but in my dream world, C2E2 starts to pick up steam at an even bigger clip and bring in bigger names, solely because I want to be able to go home and sleep in my own bed at night. There are huge upgrades coming to that area of Chicago, particularly in Navy Pier and a new arena right next to McCormick Place (where C2E2 is held), and Chicago is serious about stepping up their tradeshow game. I'm totally selfish, but dammit, I'm cheap, and Wizard World Chicago is just sad.
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Yoshifan823 posted:I love SDCC and would love for it to continue to be SDCC for years to come, but in my dream world, C2E2 starts to pick up steam at an even bigger clip and bring in bigger names, solely because I want to be able to go home and sleep in my own bed at night.. I can't see an April event pull too much away from that spectacle. Though I wouldn't be surprised if it takes a WonderCon turn and just laser focuses on Comics Comics Comics.
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Professional registration for next year is now open.
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mrfart posted:Anybody here know anything about APE in San Fransisco? It is run by the same people that do SDCC and Wondercon. It's not as big as either of those and more publication focused from my understanding. Unlike SDCC and WC, I don't think APE has ever sold out.
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Just sent off my professional application. How long does it usually take to hear yay or nay on those?
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I just sent mine as well. Never applied as a pro before, but with the lottery system I gotta try to maximize my chances.
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When I did my pro the first time 3 years ago, I just sent in some clips of my credits from the games I've worked on, a scan of my business card, some links to my mobygames profile and a couple other links via post. Like 2 week laters I got my pro verification via email. This was for Trade Pro, not creative pro. Trade gets you into the pool, creative gets you free badges or something. This year I just emailed in a summary of my last 3 years at SDCC, what I'd done there, as well as my new biz card, mobygames site and the panels and stuff I've helped out with at SDCC. I hope that works out, but I hope to hear back in 2 weeks or so.
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In a follow up to my last post, I put in for pro reg early last week as a reverification and just got approved now, so it took about a week.
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I sent my first-time pro application in last week. They say on the website it can take 4-6 weeks. Anxious to find out what they say.
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