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It's like they were going for a Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde sort of skin but they wanted to rewrite the Werewolf at the same time and had no idea what 'fair' means.
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2014 20:12 |
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2024 23:40 |
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Gazetteer posted:There is a Dr. Jekyll Mr Hyde skin -- the Unchained. These are listed alphabetically, so that'll be second to last. Knowing the quality of these so far, oh geeze.
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2014 01:46 |
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Erebro posted:The really hilarious bit is that you can spin "Lovecraftian god" to teenager metaphor; the Complete Outsider. They enter at the exact bottom of the social hierarchy because they've never been a part of it, maybe they were at a much different school or even homeschooled for much of their childhood. This is obviously a bad thing, but the thing is that the Outsider understands how ridiculous the whole dance is. They're something alien to the social web, something who can examine it clinically and guess at who people actually are beyond its bounds, and that scares the social web. So basically Christian Slater's character from Heathers, where your Darkest Self makes you wire the school to explode.
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# ¿ Dec 29, 2014 14:45 |
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Doresh posted:
Congratulations, you've made Scottish Yun(minus divekicks)! Man, this system seems to stray further and further from 'balanced and fair' the longer it goes on.
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2015 18:46 |
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LornMarkus posted:Hey, theironjef, love the podcast and earlier today I had the crazy thought of sending you guys the completed rules for a fan-made Final Fantasy pen and paper that I used to play back in high school. Any chance you guys would be interested in seeing that at all? It's hilariously broken in quite a few ways but could probably provide some entertaining reading if only for seeing its attempts to reconcile ancient design philosophy with emulating Final Fantasy. Oh man, now that just reminds me that I have a full copy of the Returners RPG flying around my hard drive, is that the one you're talking about, or is it -another- crazy Final Fantasy pen and paper?
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2015 19:45 |
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theironjef posted:Isn't the Returners like 1400 pages long or some insane thing? It's huge, and most of it is tables, if I remember right. I'm a little too afraid to go check right now.
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2015 19:50 |
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theironjef posted:Most of it being tables is promising. Generally the audience forgives us for not covering too much out tables of stuff since we only have an hour, so that's easy to skim. Unless the table is awesome, like the random item table in the back of Maid. I found it, I'll send it right over now. Oh man, this book is a treat, how did I manage to play this when I first found it?
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2015 20:02 |
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LordZoric posted:Oh man the Returners RPG. I remember our group getting together to play it once back in high school. We made it through the first combat and quit right there. Turns out an RPG based on making the players do all the math that a computer does for you in the actual video games is in fact the opposite of fun. Yeah, when my online group played we basically had to use MapTools macros for everything because the math gets absolutely nuts at points.
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2015 20:21 |
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Wait until you see how they try to rectify not being able to use your in-combat spells like Fire and Thunder out of combat. They try so hard to make it work.
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2015 20:39 |
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It actually goes completely the other way and, well, I don't want to spoil it because I know they'll have a field day with it.
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2015 21:03 |
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:It should be noted as well that it gets worse than Minovsky Particles when newtypes come in, they start riding the rainbow, and everyone's weapons explode. That's a plot point in Gundam Unicorn, newtypes are space wizards, and psychoframes can cause everyone's weapons to blow up. So they're literally just newmen from Phantasy Star at that point? I wonder if there are any atrociously entertaining Phantasy Star fan rulebooks?
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2015 04:51 |
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Snorb posted:There's Train of Consecuences, which is basically just d20 Modern with homebrew unbalanced stuff and not-so-great post-PSIV setting. (And this is coming from somebody who insists Phantasy Star Online is also post-PSIV.) I started reading that website and my eyes rolled so hard they fell out of my head. And that's fine, a long time ago I made a d20 supplement for Final Fantasy classes that never left my computer and was never finished. We've all done horrible things.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2015 05:49 |
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:I'm not sure I would prefer having a chance on any spellcast to instantly end the campaign. The spirit of Dark Heresy(And WH40k in general) always struck me as such that if your old party got wiped, you'd make a new one and get sent in to clean up the mess.
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2015 20:23 |
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Kavak posted:Either a super-repressive Christian upbringing or a waaay too permissive hippy upbringing, maybe one plopped in the middle of an area full of another? I'm thinking that, similar to my own experiences, one or both of his parents hit a spiritual crisis and went from being I could see myself turning into Brucato had some things in my youth gone differently, and I'm so glad I didn't.
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2015 04:11 |
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The more I hear and read about Mearls, the angrier I get at him for all my woes DMing 5e.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2015 18:32 |
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Aaaand the book's ruined Task Force VALKYRIE for me.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2015 00:16 |
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Kavak posted:How? I mean, it's stupid, but it's also really easy to ignore. It's just a little facetious overreaction, it's really awful and stupid but you're right, it's also really easy to ignore. I think the thing that makes it so bad is that it's just... Thrown in there, like a useless footnote.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2015 00:27 |
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I do like how in that giant derail about 5e and caster supremacy, nobody noted the hilariously backwards 'fix' to caster supremacy being that most(IIRC all) martials get to cast spells relatively well if they go down a specific character path. Instead you guys got hung up on Tiny Hut of all loving things. Since System Mastery never got around to doing the Returners game, I'll see if I can make some free time to do a write-up because it is a glorious mess, but no promises. Work's been real busy lately.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2015 14:41 |
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Re-reading through Returners and trying to find time to make some write-ups about it, all the glorious nonsense doesn't come from loving up Final Fantasy lore. It comes from all of the percentages-of-percentages and trying to figure out the somehow-nearly-impenetrable way CT works. It's truly a work of... Well not art, but something.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2015 01:50 |
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Doresh posted:I really have no idea what they were thinking when they came up with that needlessy granular percentile skill system. Or why they turned that one wolf dude from FF5 and 6 into an entire race. To be fair, that WAS an entire race in FF5. As much of a race as Dwarves have been in Final Fantasy at least. By which I mean a single village and one important guy and that's about it. Honestly one of the things I lovehate most about that book is that they tried to include every goddamn race, even the mouse-people from FF9. I don't have the time to get into it anytime soon, unfortunately, any write-up I'd do will be months off.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2015 17:34 |
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Thanks for derailing the thread with yet more D&D talk, the least you could do is be correct! In 5e, cantrips are infinite and actually have definite uses in combat. In fact, they're about on par with a Fighter or Rogue's standard attacks as far as utility goes! Additionally, and where this whole stupid fight started, is that casters get tools to force the DM into a position where they either have to follow the rules and let all semblance of challenge fall out of the window, or break them to provide a consistent game experience.(Tiny Hut being the example used, even if it isn't the best example.) Finally and foremost, casters simply get more options to do what they want, where martials either interact with the hit-dude system or the skill system, neither of which allow the ridiculous flexibility or scenario-stomping power of spells. In short, find something better to talk about because you're just going in circles and emphasizing what a bad poster you are. How about we talk about those Retribution guys, and how much elves need to be slapped around?
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2015 11:48 |
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Still haven't had time to sit down and do Returners, it'll take a lot of willpower for me to do it, but I still plan on it. Someone said Bill In Three Parts would be best run as a Run Lola Run scenario, but thinking about it just made me want to run it like a game of Tragedy Looper.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2015 16:42 |
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2024 23:40 |
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theironjef posted:
Oh, so that's where Final Fantasy Tactics got the Bravery, Faith and star pattern mechanics. Hunh.
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2015 00:55 |