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Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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BeastOfExmoor posted:

On Android you basically need to buy a T-Mobile branded Android phone to get Wi-Fi Calling. Many/most of the better phones in the Android world are phones you buy unlocked so this is a huge deal.

The Nexus devices are exceptions to this rule. I'm using a Nexus 6 that was once a Sprint phone, it works just fine. Hopefully more devices will support UMA in the future.

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Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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tonic posted:

I only see the 4 line for $120 with 10gigs of data option on the website. Are some of these offers only available over the phone? Guess I'll give them a call today.

It's the same deal. Two lines are $100 for 10gigs, a 3rd line is $20 and a 4th is free.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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As a brand new customer I'm delighted by the network, price and the fact that it's the only telco in america willing to actually compete aggressively on price and service.

I'm also completely disappointed by every rep I've dealt with past the initial sale. For all its bluster, Tmo has a ways to go before it's any different than the other telcos on the customer service front. Their internal systems are clearly a hopeless mess, and every department is more than happy to lie to your face rather than deal with your problem.

Coming from Sprint, I'm used to it, but given the rhetoric from Legere, I expected more.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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PRADA SLUT posted:

At the end of the day, T-Mobile is a corporation just like any other, they want to charge the most they can and deliver the least they can get away with, the only difference is that their competition is so atrocious they seem like saints by comparison for offering even an average service for an average price.

I'm under no illusions here. Every other developed country except canada has better, cheaper wireless than we do. It's just nice to be screwed slightly less hard on plans. It's weird that the entire telco industry seems dead set on maintaining bottom of the barrel customer service though. It would be interesting to see someone build an MVNO based on great customer care rather than competing on price alone.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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spiralbrain posted:

Is there any way around this? Didnt seem as though the tech knew if there was or not.

From the FCC:

https://www.fcc.gov/device-unlocking-faq

"Your postpaid device is eligible to be unlocked by a participating provider after you have fulfilled the applicable service contract, completed the device installment plan or paid an early termination fee. Your prepaid device is eligible to be unlocked by a participating provider no later than one year after activation, consistent with reasonable time, payment, or usage requirements."

If you pay off your phone and your account is in good standing, T-Mobile must unlock it. It doesn't matter when you ask, it doesn't need to be activated, and you do not need to use it for a week.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Astro7x posted:

I thought for sure more Apps would have jumped on Binge On by now and they'd be adding SOMETHING to the service. Has there seriously been nothing since it launched? Do content providers just not know or care about it?

You seem pretty annoyed and disappointed about a free thing that has existed for two weeks.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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did you google "binge on youtube" because this is literally the first result

http://www.tmonews.com/2015/11/t-mobile-sheds-some-light-on-youtubes-absence-from-binge-on/

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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repeating posted:

As an eventvwr.msc goon, could a tarball /whatever IT goon explain to me that this is legit? The smell test rates it "suspicious".

UDP is built to be a raw, fast stream of data that doesn't much care if it gets where it's going or not. No handshakes, minimal or optional checksums. It makes it hard to determine what traffic is what, since the only information in the header is "this packet came from this and goes to that".

I'm curious what you being a windows tech has to do with not understanding this, and why you think it's suspicious.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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FlyingCheese posted:

They really can't just whitelist all YouTube domains? I'm sure Google could supply that info for them. Or is T-Mobile really trying to penny pinch the text/image data on the rest of the page and only counting video for Binge?

Remember, they are mandating the streams run at 480p max. This requires much more than a whitelist.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Nostalgia4Butts posted:

most of my early porn was the result of woodsporn fairies leaving it for us

i mean we had internet but even then unless you knew where to look it was hard to find. google wasn't a thing. you would buy phonebook sized listings of sites to look at

if someone sold you an internet phonebook you were one dumb motherfucker. hate to break it to you

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Audax posted:

I bought a Nexus 6 last week that was on special on Amazon. It's having trouble updating the 5.1.1 patch. I'm new to Nexus phones, I thought it was supposed to have the latest and greatest in Marshmallow. Does anyone have a link to a decent guide so that I can fix my update error and/or update to Marshmallow? I've googled a bit and this seems to be a T-Mo problem?

Not a t-mo problem. You need to do a full wipe and re-flash.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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notwithoutmyanus posted:

Binge on is short for : "we've forcefully lowered quality on everything you do, enjoy!".

It's not an actual benefit to you at any time unlimited or otherwise, so it is beneficial to turn it off. Phones and devices can already choose their quality without Tmobile making the choice for you under the false pretense of "more data!". It does bring in a ton of politics and weird media coverage for tmo and a direct benefit to them - none of which is being passed on to you.

Think of this like the flip side of how a data cap works: instead of harassing all the heavy users (top 5%) via overages, they're basically defaulting everyone to be the lightest users (lowest 5%) and letting you choose to opt out at will. Still zero consumer benefit and 100% carrier benefit.

You know that the entire point of Binge On is so that video doesn't count toward your data limit, right? Plenty of people stream shows to their phones, and this lets them do it without hitting their LTE cap or having to buy a more expensive plan. How is that zero consumer benefit?

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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mAlfunkti0n posted:

Yeah saw that article as well. Folks over at Reddit are obviously going nuts because this is obviously the same as ISIS murdering their entire family.

I think the argument the EFF is using is basically a slippery slope one. Once customers get used to certain services being delivered on a "zero tier", it's easy for people to accept the idea of other services being delivered on a "premium tier" which is pretty much the worst case scenario.

While I agree with that, I also think T-Mobile is simply doing this as a value-added service to compete with the Big Two, which is great for consumers. It should be illegal, but the EFF needs to have that fight with the FCC and FTC, not T-Mobile.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Oh christ. I just switched over and now I find out the CEO is a moron :(

incidentally, this is the best thing: https://twitter.com/mattl/status/685224731667087360/photo/1

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Dude could literally get out from under all this by saying "we made it opt out because most people will either like it or not notice, and it de-congests the network so everyone gets more speed."

That second part is what he's running in circles trying not to say, which makes me think this has nothing to do with congestion at all and is a setup for a cynical cash grab down the line.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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hotsauce posted:


I'm trying to find a way to justify unlimited I guess. Maybe I need to presume binge on and music freedom won't last forever and I'll regret canceling unlimited?

A more likely scenario is T Mo eventually regretting unlimited data and quietly shoving you out the door like Verizon is doing right now. Actually needing an unlimited mobile plan is a pretty atypical use case, and if you don't immediately know why you need it you're probably wasting money.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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triple sulk posted:

A blatant violation of net neutrality like this is pretty indefensible no matter how you want to spin it.

Everyone who cares about this needs to file a complaint with the FCC.

https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=38824

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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As of this announcement, T-Mobile is officially:

Playing chicken with the FCC
Trashing their reputation with vocal nerds
The most expensive carrier base plan for up to 4 lines, not even counting hotspot charges, out of the top 4 carriers.

Not that we needed more evidence after that bizarro rant about the EFF, but at this point there's no escaping that John Legere is a genuinely stupid person.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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fun story, I did in fact file an FCC complaint, and T-mobile called me a month later.

The rep basically said "we're not an isp, we don't throttle, and why don't you like unlimited data?"

i tried explaining the basic premise of the complaint and she basically stuck her fingers in her ears and repeated her spiel. I have no idea why they think it's productive to have reps effectively robocall their own customers with the same weak sauce non-defense they're offering to the FCC in the first place. I just said "well it's really not up to either me or you whether you're violating the Open Internet Order, I wrote the letter so the FCC would investigate and make a determination" and ended the call.

Two days later, the complaint was closed. I think i'll open another one.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Elephanthead posted:

Yeah they are more carrier now then ever.

Oof. Please don't parrot their marketing poo poo in casual conversation, even if it is to complain about them. Their customer service has always been poo poo. Most people use them because the coverage is Good Enough and their pricing is extremely competitive. Which is another reason why this new One plan poo poo is so confusing.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Can we change the thread title? Legere is a piece of poo poo that we shouldn't be glorifying, even in jest.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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can someone change the thread title? john legere is a literal garbage person who really shouldn't be glorified in any capacity.

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Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Oh whoops, I guess I made that first post in a fugue state :(

Anyway, Legere both conspicuously spent a shitload of money at Trump properties and stopped beefing with him on Twitter all of a sudden, and hey presto look at that Sprint merger! When questioned about all of this, well you can watch his coke-fueled rants for yourself.

Then there was the "who the gently caress are the EFF" thing back when they first started zero rating.

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