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Latest Update - Overlord: Dark Legend #14 - All Hail... Lord Gromgard? Overlord is a series of action-adventure games that allow control over an army of "minions" who smash and kill everything that gets in the Overlord's way (they're also prone to killing things that didn't actually get in the way). The Overlord himself isn't unstoppable, but he achieves victory by having his endless horde do all the dirty work. The minions can be swept over complicated terrain, forage for equipment, guard specific locations or move in tactical formations to take down anything they encounter. We'll be playing Overlord I & the Raising Hell expansion followed by Overlord II. The sequel is my personal favorite because it is just bursting at the seams with charm. In addition, two other Overlord games were released for the Wii and DS. FutureFriend will be playing the Wii title, and we'll take a quick look at the DS release (it's bad). I've always been fond of playing as the bad guy; games like Blood Omen, Saints Row, Fable and Kirby's Adventure. This game is all about that premise, allowing us to destroy or enslave just about everything we meet while growing in power. There are a few different morality choices that pop up which will affect our upgrades and the ending. I'll be going for the 100% corruption in Overlord I, but we'll also show off what 0% corruption looks like on the side. We'll be doing the equivalent of this in the Overlord 2, which has a similar system. A vote has been conducted to determine which route we should take in the sequel; an overwhelming majority voted for 100% Domination with a side of 100% Destruction. Minions are the primary force in the game. The race is divided into 4 tribes (colors), each with their own strengths and abilities. Every minion tribe has a hive which the Overlord can (somehow) use to assert dominance over them. Only the browns are available to us at the start of our journey because we lost the other three hives. On top of that, we also have a size limitation of only 5 minions because our ransacked tower has lost the totems we need to control a larger horde. Each minion totem we find will increase our horde size until we are commanding a powerful force of little jerks. Browns are toughest of all the Minions. They're never ones to shy away from a fight. In fact it's quite difficult to get them to stop! — Gnarl Browns are the only tribe available at the beginning of the game, and not in great number either. They serve as front-line warriors meant to take and deal damage without any concern for their safety. They can loot a variety of gear ranging from rats and pumpkins to halberds and chain mail that will boost their effectiveness dramatically. Reds aren't particularly hardy, so you mustn't let enemies get too close to them, Sire. But use them in a horde, and that's a different story — a story full of flames and burning and screaming! — Gnarl Ranged combat! These minions are the archers of the group, lobbing fireballs from a safe distance. They are fragile as hell; being attacked by just about anything is certain doom for them. Reds are happiest when they are set on top of a cliff to rain fire down below while browns keep them safe. They are completely immune to fire. Greens...They aren't terribly hygienic I'm afraid. But they are good at sneaking up on things. Use them to guard an area, and they're practically invisible. As long as the enemies don't notice the smell! — Gnarl The rogue class of minion, they backstab enemies for high damage when given the opportunity. Their cloaking ability allows them to get the jump on approaching hostiles, and they are especially skilled at eliminating larger threats. With a natural immunity to poison, greens can safely clear those types of obstacles for us. Blue Minions' minds appear to be on a different plane of existence half the time. When they do decide to join us on this one, their healing and magical-damage skills can be most useful. — Gnarl Minions even have a priest class! You'll always want to have a few of these guys around. They don't heal at all, but they can resurrect any fallen minion buddy almost instantly so long as they get to the corpse in time. On guard duty, they'll auto-res our units! Blues are capable of fighting magic-based enemies that other minions can't harm, but otherwise are not built for combat. They are the only minion that can swim, and may act as lifeguards when minions of other tribes go a little too deep.
Smite fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Jan 7, 2015 |
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Liking this so far! Looking forward to more vids!
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# ? Jan 13, 2014 15:06 |
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God these games are fantastic. It's just the fun of watching your little horde of insane, gibbering minions dogpile onto enemies and beat the crap out of them that makes it so drat fun. It's like playing Pikmin with more sharp bits, looting and the occasional burning. It also kicks some of the usual fantasy cliches in the rear end on the way through the game as well.
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# ? Jan 13, 2014 16:28 |
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Yesssssss. This reminds me I need to still get these games, but I've played them and they're amazing. It's like Pikmin, only with crude humor and a fantasy setting.
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# ? Jan 13, 2014 16:29 |
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Oh, sweet. I never finished this game, don't remember why. Couldn't even get the second one running, so I'll be looking forward to that.
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# ? Jan 13, 2014 16:39 |
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If I am not wrong, the person responsible for the writing in this game is Terry Pratchett's daughter, Rhianna Pratchett, so that could explain the humor a bit at least since she must have been influenced by her father's writing.
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# ? Jan 13, 2014 16:40 |
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MooCowlian posted:Oh, sweet. I never finished this game, don't remember why. Couldn't even get the second one running, so I'll be looking forward to that. I stopped playing because the micro'ing became really obnoxious. After a while every second enemy type could just wipe your entire squad if you're not careful. It basically went downhill from when you get the Blue Minions - they were useless in combat, were constantly dying and trying to ressurrect fellow minions was a huge pain to do. Still you had to have like 5 of those around so you can activate some switch in the water to progress or otherwise you'd need to run back to the last spawn point. I also got lost constantly, but that was probably my own fault for not paying attention. Still I'm curious to see the later levels of this place, I think I quit somewhere around the desert area.
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# ? Jan 13, 2014 16:47 |
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This is my favorite pikmin game, Smite is a cool dude and this seems like a chill group for a silly fun game. I got stuck somewhere halfway into the sequel, but that feels like at least a decade ago so now i can actually appreciate all the hilarious voice acting. I still remember that your minions can loot barrels and beer mugs and the start peeing over everything. High brow this ain't!
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# ? Jan 13, 2014 16:48 |
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I just love the variety of stuff the minions will put on to improve their combat rating. It's also why I rarely ever sacrificed them, because just looking at this horde with its slapdash armor was a great thing. I understood that correctly, you're going for the 100% corrupt rating? The I vote for the mace once you have the opportunity.
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# ? Jan 13, 2014 17:26 |
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I played the hell out of the demo, where it was apparent I needed an upgrade. Dual-cores were a new thing, but not expensive like the quads would be. I forgot I have the Wii game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAfpGNa-Ihw&hd=1
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# ? Jan 13, 2014 17:52 |
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I'm guessing by the fact that you seem to be playing the PC version that you won't be showing the Battlerock Nemesis DLC for Overlord 2, am I correct?
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# ? Jan 13, 2014 19:34 |
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RefinedUndefined posted:console-exclusive DLC Nope, I don't have the means to record that since it never got a PC release for some reason. I hate to leave out content though so I might figure something out when we get there.
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# ? Jan 13, 2014 19:59 |
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Sad that I never did play either of these games since they look really fun.
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# ? Jan 13, 2014 20:59 |
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I loved this game to death after i got it, the raising hell expansion, and Overlord 2 during a Halloween sale a few years ago but i wound up stuck somewhere and just gave up after losing an hours playtime due to poor checkpoint placements.
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# ? Jan 13, 2014 21:09 |
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I love to play the spammy factions in RTS games, theres something about unleashing hordes of disposable minions on your enemy that caters to my inner super villian. I also got a thing for summoning stuff to do the fighting for me in RPG games, so this game looks like the best of both worlds! Thanks for lets playing this so I can live vicariously through you! Also, how does multiplayer work? I assume every player has a band of minions to use, but do you build your own minion squad beforehand, or are there spawning pools scattered around the maps like the weapon spawns in oldschool fps games?
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# ? Jan 13, 2014 21:36 |
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Wasn't there also a multiplayer mode that was essentially a koop "Defend the Gates" kind of thing? I think I read something about that somewhere.
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In 2 there is a co-op mode like that, yes. You and whatever loser you roped into playing with you get your hordes out and try to survive against increasing numbers of enemies. Till the point you have like half a dozen bosses on the field and your minions die like fleas. It was actually pretty fun. The game does its cartoonish evil tongue in cheek pretty well, and makes no apologies for being crude and crass. I appreciate it. Some of it even pretty much goes "You're doing it because that's what evil overlords do, I don't have to explain myself to you."
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# ? Jan 13, 2014 23:06 |
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I can't quite remember why I stopped playing the first one, probably had problems controlling at some point. I did enjoy the tone and shenanigans though, so quite looking forward to seeing what I missed out on!
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# ? Jan 13, 2014 23:09 |
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You probably got to the stage with giant AOE murdermachines. It was also where they were running out of money. It figures there was DLC for Overlord 2. I thought it was such poo poo that porting it to the PC was not worth it, despite Raising Hell working out in the end.
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# ? Jan 14, 2014 06:08 |
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I never did play Raising Hell, and it's been ages since I've played the main game, so I'm definitely watching this.
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# ? Jan 14, 2014 06:13 |
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Please post screenshots of all the minion hats as you go.
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# ? Jan 14, 2014 06:33 |
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These games are very fun to play and I'm really looking forward to a swarm of minions beating the poo poo out of anyone and anything in their way.
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# ? Jan 14, 2014 13:49 |
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Yesss. Look at all those browns with their little sickles and scythes and pumpkin hats. Good to see this being LP'd! I have finished both this and #2. Haven't done Raising Hell for some reason. I do remember parts of it being obnoxiously hard, but well. Evil finds a way. Even if the way is often 'Throw more minions at the problem"
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Merry Magpie posted:Please post screenshots of all the minion hats as you go. I agree with this.
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# ? Jan 15, 2014 20:33 |
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Ah, one of my favourite games. Like Deus Ex I keep it installed to both preemt the reinstalling curse as well as just going into my endgame save and do some therapeutic smiting of lesser creatures. Which one should only really do with the final tier of equipment. With everything before you are just too squishy. Now regarding being squishy I think I found how minion health works through trial and error: as long as they are engaged in combat their health doesn't regenerate but out of it they recover within seconds. I found I lose a lot less minions by recalling them for a second or two occasionally and then throwing them back at the enemies. Honestly, I like the 0% corruption ending a lot better but I also have a 100% corruption save. Being truly evil is a lot more work, let me tell you! And I also missed out on Raising Hell. So that should be interesting. The second game I still have a years old save somewhere half-way through or so but I couldn't bring myself to finish it.
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# ? Jan 15, 2014 22:04 |
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I'll try to get screenshots of at least the interesting hats as they come up. Here's one! Overlord, Episode 3 - Hunger Pains
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# ? Jan 15, 2014 22:13 |
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This game was so much fun and I really need to buy it again.
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Koorisch posted:If I am not wrong, the person responsible for the writing in this game is Terry Pratchett's daughter, Rhianna Pratchett, so that could explain the humor a bit at least since she must have been influenced by her father's writing. She also wrote Mirror's Edge and Tomb Raider 2013. Compared to those games, she seems really confident in writing comedy as opposed to drama. Nuramor posted:Wasn't there also a multiplayer mode that was essentially a koop "Defend the Gates" kind of thing? I think I read something about that somewhere. I think the first game had a traditional vs multiplayer and a second Plunder mode which was a race to get the most points.
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# ? Jan 15, 2014 22:21 |
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So forgive me if I missed some mechanics explanations, but what is this "corruption" level that people keep talking about, and what does it do at high or low levels?
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GenHavoc posted:So forgive me if I missed some mechanics explanations, but what is this "corruption" level that people keep talking about, and what does it do at high or low levels? Basically its a one way morality meter. You perform certain evil acts and they give you corruption points. It makes the Overlord look more evil and also there are different endings for 0%, 100% and in-between.
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# ? Jan 16, 2014 00:33 |
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Man this game has aged pretty drat well. I vaguely remember the difficulty getting quite dickish later on, but at least for now the game actually remembers that it's more about watching your goofy minions clowning around and smashing every object in sight instead of frame perfect action combat interspersed with having to run back and farm another 30 minions for the next attempt.
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SovietPotatoe posted:Basically its a one way morality meter. You perform certain evil acts and they give you corruption points. It makes the Overlord look more evil and also there are different endings for 0%, 100% and in-between. Forgive me, but the point of the game is that you're an evil overlord, right? Is there some reason you would not do evil things?
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GenHavoc posted:Forgive me, but the point of the game is that you're an evil overlord, right? Is there some reason you would not do evil things? The alignment system doesn't make a tremendous amount of sense until you realize that 'evil' means maniacally killing everything whereas 'good' actually means enslaving the populace in order to maximize how much loot you can demand from them while they worship you. We would be doing things like getting the peasants their food back in order to sort of babysit an investment in slaves and future food/money.
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GenHavoc posted:Forgive me, but the point of the game is that you're an evil overlord, right? Is there some reason you would not do evil things? Because you can still be the overlord, only the people seem to like you (and so aren't likely to try and revolt to send for annoying heroes to try and crush you). It's hard to be overlord if all your subjects are dead. I think there are some benefits for not going for corruption, although I don't recall what they are. In this case, the life force you get for keeping the food isn't really all that useful because farming life force is easy to do - especially later on. It's really personal preference more than anything.
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There are no real benefits to going for 0 corruption - you get some bonus sheep outside the first gate, and your top tier spells don't have friendly fire. Not really worth the effort though. You also can't get the achievement for having all the tower accoutrements without gaining corruption (as a few of them need to be stolen). That, the fact that being the "good guy" requires making things a bit more difficult for yourself, is part of why I love this game. (As you mention, the food thing means little in the long run but it's a nice boost in the short term - as are some of the later cases). I love the sequel as well, but for different reasons. I actually have the Wii game, but I haven't hooked my Wii back up since I bought it - does anyone know if it's any good? Kloro fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Jan 16, 2014 |
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Because you can still be the overlord, only the people seem to like you (and so aren't likely to try and revolt to send for annoying heroes to try and crush you). It's hard to be overlord if all your subjects are dead. Usually it's a choice between an obvious benefit now vs. future gains. If you return the food and come back, there are a lot more sheep to farm lifeforce from.
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Hermetian posted:Usually it's a choice between an obvious benefit now vs. future gains. If you return the food and come back, there are a lot more sheep to farm lifeforce from. It's also usually a question of you succumbing to the same sins that corrupted the now former heroes. Give up food, or fall prey to gluttony?
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# ? Jan 16, 2014 01:18 |
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Awesome, I really liked this game but don't think I ever actually finished it. Always wanted to see the corrupt stuff.
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# ? Jan 16, 2014 03:34 |
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The Jester has more lines in the tutorial after you leave him alone. While he hides from you and gets beat on, he get increasingly alarmed and says he needs to heal. He then says he doesn't want to die, that you are his master, and finally gets frustrated and yells if you have better things to do. The pumpkins they wear have different faces. They also get nose rings. You missed the magic spell. I guess you won't really need it for the boss. Kloro posted:There are no real benefits to going for 0 corruption - you get some bonus sheep outside the first gate, and your top tier spells don't have friendly fire. Not really worth the effort though. I think the food bonus is either 50 or 100 browns. I get half that on a trip through Spree. Scalding Coffee fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Jan 16, 2014 |
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I thought Overlord II was way better about the moral choice stuff, especially the idea that both choices are evil, and you're just picking the flavor of evil you want. All the "moral choices" in Overlord II essentially boil down to "Kill Everyone" or "Enslave Everyone."
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