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Mind Loving Owl posted:So where is the reprint up too story wise?
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Mind Loving Owl posted:So where is the reprint up too story wise? The last issue of Book 1 dropped today. I kinda breezed through it since I've been reading the old Warrior run during my downtime.
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Mar 27, 2014 02:58
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Even the Parental Advisory Edition felt the need to censor the racial slur, incidentally, but that's okay because seriously Alan Moore that was not an okay reason to push that particular envelope.
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Mar 27, 2014 03:06
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CapnAndy posted:First appearance of Big Ben, The Man With No Time For Crime!, Miracleman has discovered his origins in the bunker. Didn't Big Ben have his own story in Warrior for a while?
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Mar 27, 2014 04:13
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CapnAndy posted:Even the Parental Advisory Edition felt the need to censor the racial slur, incidentally, but that's okay because seriously Alan Moore that was not an okay reason to push that particular envelope. I saw some patter on twitter complaining about that and rolled my eyes.
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Mar 27, 2014 14:41
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Mind Loving Owl posted:Didn't Big Ben have his own story in Warrior for a while? Yeah there were a couple stories and Dez Skinn wanted to make him a major character iirc.
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I think Warrior tried to go for the whole shared world thing. I think that's why V For Vendetta is said to be a world where Mike never remembered his trigger phrase.
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Mar 28, 2014 01:10
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I'm really liking the story, although I kind of don't like the latest turn. I more liked the whole story of Miracleman & Co. just being a Captain Marvel-esque crew that got hosed over and Mike rediscovering himself/Miracleman. Finding out that it was a conspiracy all along and they were never heroes but just experiments is really kind of... I don't know, a disappointment? I guess that's all in fitting with
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Mar 28, 2014 05:59
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It is so great seeing a non-spoiled reader's opinion on Miracleman as it re-unfolds.. Even if I don't agree.
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Mar 28, 2014 06:30
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Mind Loving Owl posted:I think Warrior tried to go for the whole shared world thing. I think that's why V For Vendetta is said to be a world where Mike never remembered his trigger phrase. And Gargunza built the Fate computer. I do hope Marvel reprint the Kimota! companion, as I loved reading the Warrior timeline as written by Moore.
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Mar 28, 2014 07:58
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I do have to wonder, in the V For Vendetta world, is Johnny Bates still alive somewhere out there?
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Mar 28, 2014 09:14
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I thought the conspiracy twist was pretty amazing actually. Also makes me feel sad for Big Ben.
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Mar 28, 2014 14:46
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Mind Loving Owl posted:I do have to wonder, in the V For Vendetta world, is Johnny Bates still alive somewhere out there? I'd have to assume because Miracleman wasn't reborn to rekindle his superhuman blood lust, he simply sat back and enjoyed the luxury that being in the elite of fascist Britain afforded him.
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Wait, what?  Gargunza's being metaphorical, right? (Don't answer this)
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Wait, what? Gargunza does so many awful psychologically weird stuff that you could be talking about anything.
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May 11, 2014 19:26
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Talking about the last page in issue five, but that's a good point.
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Flergatron 3000 posted:I thought the conspiracy twist was pretty amazing actually. Also makes me feel sad for Big Ben. Super sad for him, chum, being the unwitting plaything/weapon of a shadowy group and all. The reveal as to how the miracleman family came to be was pretty interesting, I wasn't disappointed at all. Depressed, sure, but not disappointed. Just as an aside, what counts as a spoiler? Can I discuss what has happened in the current (issue 5) and previous issues in detail, while avoiding what is yet to happen?
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Wait, what? This is comic books. I wouldn't put it past Moore to have Gargunza be the kid sent back in time or something.
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Oh that's what we're talking about! I like to think Gargunza is so screwed up that he traumatizes his nazi friends everytime he makes coffee in the morning.
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I wish I knew what issue you guys were on so I'd know what we're talking about.
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May 18, 2014 17:16
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I think the issue said it was up to Warrior #18
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Lurdiak posted:I wish I knew what issue you guys were on so I'd know what we're talking about. They're talking about this page  and Gargunza's weird-rear end "...my father" line.
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Ooooh, now I get it. I won't say anything, but yes that is a very weird line from a very creepy man.
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Prison Warden posted:This is comic books. I wouldn't put it past Moore to have Gargunza be the kid sent back in time or something. ...would that mean Gargunza is basically Trunks?  (Or Cable, for a more subforum-appropriate joke.)
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Prison Warden posted:This is comic books. I wouldn't put it past Moore to have Gargunza be the kid sent back in time or something. Body switching sounds more likely.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Body switching sounds more likely. Yeah, if I has to guess as to what is going on, it is that Gargunza plans to take the kid's body and put it into the weird space-time dimension that the Miraclemen bodies are located in and link himself to it, so he can just say "Gargunza!" and boom now he's all superhuman. But I thought I'd go for the most literal idea. If Gargunza was Miracleman's son, sent back in time then him creating Miracleman is a stable time-loop event to ensure his own existence, which I'm all over.
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Well the colours certainly are done well here.
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I can't say that I love the original colors but I still really feel like important elements of the linework are lost due to the glossy shading in the reprints. And of course, gradients abound.
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May 19, 2014 21:23
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CapnAndy posted:Original colors, for comparison:
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Lurdiak posted:I can't say that I love the original colors but I still really feel like important elements of the linework are lost due to the glossy shading in the reprints.  
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May 19, 2014 21:53
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Also in the original version of that Gargunza page everyone is like, citrus orange so that's another really odd thing.
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CapnAndy posted:Yes, but on the other hand... Of course, of course. There must exist a compromise between idiotic color choices and lifeless attempts at photo-realism.
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Lurdiak posted:I can't say that I love the original colors but I still really feel like important elements of the linework are lost due to the glossy shading in the reprints. Could you point out a part of that page where the linework in the drawings is lessened in the remaster? Because to my eye, I can see more of the pencil and ink detail in the new page in pretty much every panel.
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chime_on posted:Could you point out a part of that page where the linework in the drawings is lessened in the remaster? Because to my eye, I can see more of the pencil and ink detail in the new page in pretty much every panel. Agreed. The original Comico stuff was 100% garbage for the rest of this story (i.e. everything up to Olympus) so I'm really unsure why people are pining for it. Marvel gets a gold star from me on everything they've done with the re-release so far. rkajdi fucked around with this message at 01:30 on May 20, 2014 |
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I don't see anything soulless with the recolouring either, I don't get the upset.
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I just want to know what fetish the original colourists had for the colour pink? Was there a huge huge surplus of pink inks at Eclipse?
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SALT CURES HAM posted:Also in the original version of that Gargunza page everyone is like, citrus orange so that's another really odd thing. IIRC back in the day comics were printed on the shittiest paper possible(like recycled orange crates) so its likely a scan source issue.
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I'm seven pages into the new issue and I had to put it down for a bit. That plan's loving sick. e: oooh poo poo, bad word, oh poo poo. e2: oooooh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit miracledog. e3: Mr. Cream  The coloring on Chuck Austen's art looks way the gently caress better than what they did with Alan Davis. MorningMoon fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Jun 5, 2014 |
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I was really surprised that they just went ahead and put Captain Marvel in the book. Like, I thought referring to other companies' stuff just wasn't done much in the industry aside from winking nods, but Gargunza's just like "Oh man I totally ripped off Captain Marvel and it worked great". Also the concept of a "scientifically-approved form of demonic possession" is hilarious. Good to know that even Satan needs FDA approval. Also Silver Age Backup Marvelman displaying some classic Superdickery instead of just stopping Gargunza after regaining his powers, chooses to play a prank on the guy and in doing so ends up activating the loving earthquake machine. Smoooth.
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