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Is there something keeping you in Detroit? Even aside from the furniture store's offer being laughably below the prevailing market wage, there are many, many other cities with much better job markets for a programmer or graphic designer, and most decent sized firms (and even startups in Cali) will pay to relocate you.
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Xguard86 posted:I guess they could request a W2 but is that legal? There are a small number of companies that request your W2. They are all awful, as you could expect.
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spwrozek posted:At some point [if] you want the job you can't be all coy anymore. It really varies by what business you're dealing with. There are a fair number of them that won't jerk you around waiting for you to give out a number.
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They're 20% lower than what you want and 11% lower than the minimum you'd accept. Given how large that gap is and how they played hardball about giving out a number first, you almost certainly aren't going to negotiate them up meaningfully. Send them a brief but polite email declining their offer, imo.
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spwrozek posted:My friends and I have found this calculator pretty spot on. Are there any CoL calculators out there that can get the math right for living in one state and working in another?
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Lots of people will advocate leaving unconditionally if you get a superior offer rather than using it as leverage at your current employer.
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Dwight Eisenhower posted:I wouldn't go so far as to say if you look and you find something better, leave without an opportunity to match, that's really on a case by case basis. If you enjoy your work aside from your compensation, there's something to be said for the devil you know. And if the devil you know will match another offer, it's significantly less risk than jumping ship to a potentially caustic environment. OTOH you may find that your current employer starts looking to replace you at the earliest opportunity the moment you accept their counter-offer, or that your "raise" was really an advance against future raises, etc
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You wouldn't want to, which is one of the many reasons that the most common advice about counter-offers is to never accept them and to not bother trying to use an offer as leverage to get a raise with your current employer!
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swenblack posted:You always seem to take the position in this thread that there's no harm in asking for more money at every step, That's probably because Kalenn Istarion has been posting itt since before the thread got moved from CoC to BFC.
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Kalenn Istarion posted:I can't tell what point you're getting at with this. Most employers of software engineers are not moronic shitheels, thus your advice contains the (reasonable) assumption that the hiring firm is neither moronic nor a shitheel.
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Hollis Brown posted:It's going to be in Schenectady. Ouch. At least rent should be cheap. Colonie will probably be cheaper than Nisky while being about equally nice. Your employer has a pretty good work environment as well, or so I've heard from acquaintances that work there (I assume they're known by a four letter acronym unless there's some second source of jobs that require a DOE clearance in Niskayuna).
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asur posted:Places with high CoLA almost always highly desirable places to live Did you read the part where this was a DC job? Incidentally, 85k is poo poo for a programmer in DC unless you're in a really bad subfield or a fresh grad.
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Because I forgot this thread got moved to BFC 
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