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Cool good to hear. I was worried that most of the Ming successors would through a series of revolts all pretty much become the vanilla countries just with Chinese names.
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Seeing as we're not going with a Seljuk HRE, would using the shogunate mechanics work for them instead?
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With so many Sunni states being Hui lead, this could lead to an interesting divide later, between regions with histories of Hui leadership and more Confucian influences and those Islamic regions without that history. On that note, are any of the Ming Frontier successors Confucian, or are they all Sunni?
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Is Scotland going to have a different culture union tag besides GBR? Because that could be interesting (and different from the usual thing where GBR always ends up forming).
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ChrisAsmadi posted:Is Scotland going to have a different culture union tag besides GBR? Because that could be interesting (and different from the usual thing where GBR always ends up forming). Yeah, they have their own union tag.
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Event writing seems to be going well, things are mostly working (except for a weird thing where nothing in one of the localization files is... well... localizing. But I'll think of something!) and Res Publica comes out next week. So assuming I don't have any horrific problems getting the mod to work with Res Publica, and assuming Res Publica doesn't break EU4 entirely somehow, we should be ready to roll before the end of the month. And, since the map stuff is all done, I'll have a state of the world for 1444 before then to tide everyone over.
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Sweet, glad to hear things are working so far. Are there any other places that could use more flags or something? Unions, OPMs, etc?
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Hm, a religiously neutral flag (since Muslim, Hindu, or-- I guess, I'm not sure how the conversion events work-- Sikh? tags can all theoretically become emperor) for India (i.e., the unified HLR tag) would be nice. Right now I'm just using the e_india flag from CK2 as a placeholder, but I'm not super pumped about it.
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Rincewind posted:Hm, a religiously neutral flag (since Muslim, Hindu, or-- I guess, I'm not sure how the conversion events work-- Sikh? tags can all theoretically become emperor) for India (i.e., the unified HLR tag) would be nice. Right now I'm just using the e_india flag from CK2 as a placeholder, but I'm not super pumped about it. No Buddhists or Jains? 
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GSD posted:No Buddhists or Jains? My export is pre-RoI and trying to reverse engineer the Jains back into my mod seemed to just break everything horrifically, and unfortunately seemed to be more trouble than it was worth just to make the IndiaHRE even more religiously divided. I should add a Buddhist elector as a tiebreaker between the Muslim and Hindu ones, though.
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Rincewind posted:My export is pre-RoI and trying to reverse engineer the Jains back into my mod seemed to just break everything horrifically, and unfortunately seemed to be more trouble than it was worth just to make the IndiaHRE even more religiously divided. A little disappointing, but fair enough. A somewhat stronger Jain presence in India would have been interesting, is all.
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Rincewind posted:Event writing seems to be going well, things are mostly working (except for a weird thing where nothing in one of the localization files is... well... localizing. But I'll think of something!) and Res Publica comes out next week. So assuming I don't have any horrific problems getting the mod to work with Res Publica, and assuming Res Publica doesn't break EU4 entirely somehow, we should be ready to roll before the end of the month. The name of the localization file matters. If you have a localization with, say, english strings in it: code:e: if this is not the case, it could also possibly be a nested quotation mark, special character, or other landmine hiding somewhere. If you want to PM me a link to your localization file, I can go over it with some YAML validation scripts and see if I find anything. Dibujante fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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GSD posted:A little disappointing, but fair enough. Well, there's always my next Paradox LP... 
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Rincewind posted:Well, there's always my next Paradox LP... Indeed, indeed. Though with India now being incorporated into the mind, it is likely going to be up to the AI now. Then again, India often ends up fairly static currently, so I could see it being broken up and changed via vote just to make a more interesting EU4 scenario. But theorizing about future threads is pretty silly. Edit: Is the HRE going to get the Elective Monarchy government type, now that it is getting unique mechanics and stuff? GSD fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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GSD posted:Indeed, indeed. I need to see more how it works under the hood, how the candidate dynasties are determined, etc. It's certainly appealing, though. There are a few other candidates for elective monarchy here and there throughout the world in addition to the HRE, though.
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Rincewind posted:Hm, a religiously neutral flag (since Muslim, Hindu, or-- I guess, I'm not sure how the conversion events work-- Sikh? tags can all theoretically become emperor) for India (i.e., the unified HLR tag) would be nice. Right now I'm just using the e_india flag from CK2 as a placeholder, but I'm not super pumped about it. Something like this, then?  The pink Sacred Lotus flower as both a pan-Indian symbol and for other neat symbolic meanings, like unity (the many petals of the flower) and longevity (they're able to live up to a thousand years). Text is the "Satyameva Jayate" mantra, or "Truth Alone Triumphs," with its own ancient significance and symbolism of good rule. Blue for the ponds the Lotus is from and as a bit of a contrast to the warmer pink and gold. The golden Lion Capital of Asoka references Emperor Ashoka's reign of almost the entire subcontinent; fitting for a union flag. The elephants because While the Lotus and Satyameva Jayate may be pushing it I'd think this is a decently religiously-neutral idea.
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StrifeHira posted:Something like this, then? Looking good! Hopefully it'll actually come up in the LP. Anyway...  EMERGENCY SENATE VOTE This is going to be a very quick, informal Senate vote (anybody reading the thread can vote, parties won't matter, etc.) since it concerns a set-up thing. So... Exhibit A: The Roman Empire  Exhibit B: Our diplomatic relations  Exhibit C: Our vassals  As you can see, the four vassals created by the Imperial Bureaucracy Act take up all four of our diplomatic relation slots. I was going to be mean and just leave that as a delightful surprise in the first update, so then we could spend a highly amusing decade having to go over our relation limit whenever we wanted an ally or military access or whatever, but in the end I decided that'd just feel like a game mechanics gotcha, so I'll give the Senate a chance to avoid that by cutting one of our vassals loose. As you can see from our vassal list, Kartli is the least valuable of our vassals. It's also the most remote of them, barely contiguous with the rest of our territory thanks to a thin strip connecting it to Trebizond (remember that the republics of Abkhazia and Crimea have been independent since Emperor Komitas Branas let them slip away, and unlike Belgorod were never brought back into the empire). Trebizond is also a metropolis (theocracy), unlike any of our other vassals (the republics of Ragusa and Belgorod, and the kingdom of Sicily, which is kind of a special case anyway), and a hotbed of dissent (it was involved in some of those late game independence revolts we had). So you have two choices:  A: Free Kartli, making it an independent theocratic Orthodox state in the style of the Valerian Order in Egypt. The Roman officials watching the Exarch of Kartli like a hawk will be able to return to Constantinople and be reassigned from the Committee of St. Valeria's Ministry for Exarchate Relations to the general Foreign Affairs Ministry of the Venetian Committee, giving us a slightly freer hand in foreign relations in places that matter (i.e., western and central Europe, the former Gauhar Ayin Empire, etc.) to the tune of one open diplomatic relation slot.  B: The status quo. Kartli remains an exarchate of Rome (i.e., our vassal) and we'll be able to diploannex it eventually. We may have some (minor, the 4/4 diplorelation slots are enough of a problem) events related to its relative disloyalty compared to our other vassals, but mostly the disadvantage is just having to keep four vassals around until we can finally start devouring them whole a decade into the game. For reference, Empress Basillike (who is pretty much on death's door at this point) is ADM 3 / DIP 2 / MIL 3, and Hugh de Mowbray is ADM 4 / DIP 1 / MIL 3, if you want to get a sense of how many diplo points will be coming in if we feel like eating the penalties for going over our relations limit in the early game. Sorry I didn't write a cute little in-character scene with them here, like I usually do for these votes, but this one is all about game mechanics an early modern Roman has no business knowing about.
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I vote A for pretty borders.
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B for Rome duh.
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A! The loyal Exarchy might even be able to expand Christianity in their more autonomous state, and retrieve Crimea and Abkhazia for the Empire.
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Oh, by the way: (Borders subject to change, especially the ones that were off the CK2 map, since I haven't run any hands-off games to balance them yet. And I should really make the Somalian successors shades of blue...)
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 This is a tough one. A. More independence for the church is, on principle, a good thing. But I must also ask that we do not leave the Exarchate to be devoured by its neighbours. I petition that even if we let Kartli go its own way we at least aid and prop it up until it encompasses all of the Caucasus and is capable of defending it on its own.
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Yeah, we don't want to throw it to the wolves. C, integrate the most integratable one already by game start, if possible.
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Since Georgia does not seem to be around, if A wins, can Kartli get a decision to Form Georgia if it sticks around/is more successful?
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Jul 12, 2014 10:25
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A. But we defend it and come to it's aid if necessary!
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GSD posted:Since Georgia does not seem to be around, if A wins, can Kartli get a decision to Form Georgia if it sticks around/is more successful? Sure, giving them a decision to form Georgia if they can hold their territory for long enough would be easy and make sense.
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Jul 12, 2014 10:32
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C. They are our vassals and we can accept the penalty for going over our relations limit for the 10 or 15 years it will take to start the process of annexation for one.
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fermun posted:C. They are our vassals and we can accept the penalty for going over our relations limit for the 10 or 15 years it will take to start the process of annexation for one. I'm assuming you mean B since what you just wrote is what B is. There is no C.
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Jul 12, 2014 10:42
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B: Diplo points are for chumps.
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Rincewind posted:I'm assuming you mean B since what you just wrote is what B is. There is no C. Eh, fair enough. Switching from write-in to B.
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B, I guess. They can't survive on their own, and if we're going to prop them up, we might as well keep them.
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B. Diplo annex one of them as soon as possible, that way we get the free diplomacy slot and even more filthy lucre in the form of taxes.
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