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Spiderdrake posted:I sort of like the fact that wargames stick to the imperial measuring system My steam tank gets 50 rods to the hogshead and that's the way we likes it!
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Thirsty Dog posted:It was a joke. Age of Sigmar: it was a joke
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LGD posted:It's in the Warhammer thread but for convenience- I'm so fukkkken bloodstoked right now!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YYZcpMk8qo My bloodsecrators bloodsecute by shooting their bloodzers.
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quote:Just chatted with a gw staffy yesterday, regarding the "points system." Ho there, good sir, methinks thou has filled thy deployment zone with daemons. Perchance thou wilt withdraw some, in the very name of sportsmanship?
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FrostyPox posted:Really the smart way to deal with WAAC players is to write tight, clear, balanced rules so that there's little for them to exploit and even "playing casually" means you have a good chance of winning, and also not to play against douchebags Yeah, if anything open-ended rules and army-building mechnics significantly empower WAAC players. Oh and guess what - most people don't have 5 beer and pretzel bros to beer and pretzel it up on Beer and Pretzels night. Most people have to beer and pretzels with the few local fantasy players that are around and, invariably, one of those guys is a WAAC.
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Jul 4, 2015 17:32
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Gorefiend posted:"You can't criticize when you play Warmachine" What does this even mean?
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Jul 4, 2015 17:51
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So is this 'competitive players' being a 4 letter word thing common? I don't frequent many GW games forums or FB groups or whatever until this AoS furor started. The loving moral superiority of 'casual' players when they talk about competitive players as though wanting to play with your best stuff is a character defect is pretty funny and stupid.
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Jul 4, 2015 19:02
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Have you ever seen someone trying to do comedy by being WHOAAAAA WACKY? Hey look everyone - I'm wearing a lampshade on my head! You know how painfully forced that is? Now, imagine a game system that codified that into the rules ensuring that the same WHOA WACKY I'M RIDING A HORSE bit would be driven into the ground for as long as it is played in stores. I swear to Christ, it's like a game system written for people who have no idea what a 'beer and pretzels' gaming encounter really is. I don't need rules to inject humor into my games. Hell, I laugh my rear end off almost every time I play Warmahordes and that's a game system that is apparently written for WAAC psychopaths to hear the AoS defenders talk about it.
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Jul 4, 2015 21:09
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Age of Sigmar is apparently targetting that lucrative and uptapped demographic of 8-12 year olds with 15k of disposable income.
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Jul 4, 2015 21:17
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I'm really enjoying these AoS debates in various forums/fb groups. The game isn't balanced. Don't worry about balance just have fun! But a balanced game is more fun than rolling someone or getting rolled constantly. Don't play with people who bring WAAC dick lists. I don't my friend and I spent 30 minutes trying to balance out the lists but it was still imbalanced Just balance every unit against another unit. We tried that and it failed Don't worry about balance just have fun! Is "just have fun!" some sort of incantation to be hurled at anything that challenges your wargaming belief system?
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Jul 5, 2015 10:43
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Corrode posted:Yeah, as much as people like to say "it's not like your old rulebooks have disappeared! So many of the arguments made in defense of GW hinge on the idea that players have a huge field of would-be and current fantasy players enough so that you can weed out the dickheads and still either get in some AoS games where balance was at least attempted or just play an old version. That or that 99% of us aren't at the mercy of whatever shows up at our FLGS and instead have a crew of 4+ ultra beer and pretzbros with unlimited funds and a hive mind approach as to what is FUN and what is balanced. spectralent posted:Also do people going "Well this will show those tournament gamers I have no idea. The thought processes of that group escape me. Especially because no balance means that waac tournament psychopaths (because anyone who enjoys a competitive game probably cuts the eyes out of pictures of women) have nothing to rein them in. In fact the game encourages them to just keep butting down their favorite and best stuff. Say you've got 4 local dudes you know who are willing to buy some fantasy armies. Including yourself. Which is my current situation. Now let's say 1-2 of those guys are assholes. If I take the GW defender path of 'just not playing them' then I've cut my prospective fantasy games down by 25-50% and am pretty limited in opponents. In every state I've lived Fantasy was hard to find an opponent. So the answer is to make a game that empowers assholes and for me to just never play them? The gently caress? fnordcircle fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Jul 5, 2015 |
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Jul 5, 2015 19:36
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FrostyPox posted:What I find deliciously ironic is I've encountered clueless smug Warhammer players who, despite not knowing anything about Warmachine, insist that it's just "shoving models to the middle of the table and rolling dice with no strategy because that's what it looks like in battle reports, game has no tactics". Yeah, I will never understand the people who say Age of Sigmar is anything like Warmachine. I mean, both are skirmish game involving dice and uh....miniatures? Age of Sigmar is more like 40k than Warmahordes.
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Jul 5, 2015 19:46
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I played AoS yesterday. Against someone who has been storming the internet to defend the lack of balance options. I deliberately took my best characters - Nagash, etc - along with powerful units and set them on the table before deployment and said "This is what I want to play tonight, bring whatever you want to play against it." An hour later he was suddenly interested in brainstorming balance options with me.
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Jul 6, 2015 20:41
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SirPhoebos posted:Part of me wants to play I played a few games over a couple of days this weekend. I enjoyed it. If people come up with a way to balance it, ignore the stupid 'zany' rules and some of the other bad rules are ignored I can see myself continuing to enjoy it. I can say all that and still say that the choice of no balance was especially retarded, the WHOA HAHA zany rules are dumb as poo poo and that the defense of GW's choices offered up by some people has blown my mind.
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Jul 6, 2015 22:54
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Honestly reading and watching all of the mental gymnastics and circular logic being displayed by the members of the 512th Beer and Pretzels Legion has been significantly more fun than Age of Sigmar.
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Jul 6, 2015 22:57
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http://natfka.blogspot.com.au/2015/07/gw-answers-age-of-sigmar-questions.html Is this just someone reposting serious gaylord's post? It's getting posted everywhere now.
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Jul 7, 2015 01:47
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Hey guys - this post was just made on somethingawful. Apparently Games Workshop are actually purple monkey telephone.enri posted:GW in 'actually talking to their customers' shocker:
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Well I mean, you can download the rules for free.
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Jul 7, 2015 16:45
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Nothing in the rules state that your models have to be resting on their bases. So, make a model 24" off the ground and at end of movement tip it forward! Got the idea from the MWG test balance game.
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Jul 7, 2015 18:55
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Business Gorillas posted:so i'm having the eventual argument with my buddy who's dad runs the GW here Do it. I've played a few games against the "I cast spell of FUN at your comments on balance" types and I've brought out the most broken poo poo I could each time to see if they'd change their tune.
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Business Gorillas posted:I dip my brush into your mother's pot all the time and I don't get any complaints??? Very professional.
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Jul 8, 2015 17:28
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Vallejo because droppers.
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AoS defense generator. Roll a dice: On a result of 1: "Just have fun." On a result of 2: "In real life war isn't balanced." On a result of 3: "Just don't play people who bring dick lists." On a result of 4: "Don't worry about balance, talk about what type of experience you and your fellow player want to have." On a result of 5: "People who don't like AoS are just resistant to change." On a result of 6: "You're acting entitled."
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Jul 8, 2015 18:21
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Captain Rufus posted:Citadel Shade is extremely my poo poo. I might hate the Workshop but their wash family of Liquid Skill are a godsend if you hate painting like me. Stuff makes my Warmahordes look great. I hate painting. Do you use one type of shade or does it vary? Do you have any guides you followed to try it? Can i just use floor wax or something?
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Jul 8, 2015 18:45
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Nebalebadingdong posted:its super easy. if you REALLY hate painting, just base your mini in a single color, pick out the spots that are a different color and wash the whole thing. if you're brand new, it may take a few times to get a good catch on how much wash to use, but you'll learn quickly You're talking about the quickshades, right? I've used the GW and other washes a lot but I need to start speeding up my painting because I just have too much poo poo.
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Jul 8, 2015 18:56
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Nebalebadingdong posted:i fuckin' MASTERED speed painting when i painted 100 skaven slaves. here's what i did, dunno if it works for you: Nice ! Thanks for the walk through.
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Jul 8, 2015 22:45
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I'm sick of people trying to "balance" the game! The game IS balanced, it is the PLAYERS who are not!
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"40k isn't very balanced so why do we need balance at all in AoS?" is, quite possibly, my favorite defense of the no-points yet. I mean it takes a special sort of mindset to use a widely-touted flaw from one game system as justification for pushing that flaw to its furthest limit in another.
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Jul 9, 2015 19:23
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Phoon posted:this is missing "its just a game/toy" And the 'real life isn't balanced' one too. Here's a little tale of a man who went to a massively unbalanced battle against him. Did he howl that it was unfair because there were no points. No. He used the most powerful weapon known to man. His Brain. As the last paragraph says "Defeat in this battle was a blow from which Rome should be reeling for some time to come. More than ever Rome needed brilliant generals, capable men of intelligence and imagination." http://www.roman-empire.net/army/cannae.html  overload
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Night10194 posted:Steamhead Duardin Firesprayer Bloodsoaker. Nounnoun Nounverb
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Ashcans posted:Honestly a dude getting so worked up that he actually burns his army and photoblogs it just makes me think that he's the kind of guy who is going to boomerang around in a year and recollect twice as much poo poo. That always seems to happen to my friends who freak out the worst. It's the guys who go out quietly and just give their poo poo away to friends/drop if off at the thrift store that are really done. When you've truly stopped caring you don't feel the need to waste your time making a scene.
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I skipped around that 'burn my elves to show this company that sells models a thing or two!' video but the moment he said "i've expressed myself as much as one can within the limited medium that is language" or whatever I knew we had reached peak autist.
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Jul 10, 2015 00:49
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I use power-word FUN to dispel your argument
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A premium price is expected when buying the premium narrative forging models in existence today.
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Doctor Borris posted:So what exactly DOES Retributor Brand armor spray do thats better then citadel spray thats better then regular Good Company Primer? It coats your jewel like items of wonder in FUN allowing you to forge a narrative that is otiose in a niche.
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Jul 12, 2015 03:02
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 In all the hubbub and rush to criticize rules I never really thought about how my response to Age of Sigmar reflects on me as a person. I've got a lot of talking to do with the man in the mirror because I'm not sure I like who I've become. Thank you, Games Workshop.
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The whole 'bad publicity is better than no publicity' is probably going to work in their favor. I expect that the scenario book we're supposed to get this week or whatever will be nothing but new models and the people who bought the AoS box set will go 'well, all I need to do is buy another 4 boxes of 5 bloodgore gorebloods and I can do this scenario' and AoS will probably bring them more revenue than WHFB. Every game of AoS I've played has gotten more curiosity than any 40k or Warmahordes game. The GW fanboys want it to be good and the rest are morbidly curious to see just how bad this game is. If the scenario book is full of nothing but scenarios using models that don't exist yet that'll pretty much confirm that all of WHFB got squatted, imo. Even if the people who break their backs carrying GW's water don't realize it.
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Saint Drogo posted:ah yes the WE ARE BEING SCARY NOW THIS IS A SCARY THING YOU ARE SCARED school of horror. I was tempted to read those books once because I have no standards but gently caress me that is bad. That is bad like nothing I've read outside of fetish fanfics. Every single line is something a Warcraft boss screams at you before you kill them for phat loot. It's like reading the stuff people would emote in a mud.
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