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bigbillystyle posted:
Didn't Harvick's first win after Dale died come at Atlanta in a drag race to the line with Jeff Gordon?
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Jan 23, 2014 17:57
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So that we can properly criticize this, here are all the particulars: - After race 26, the chase grid is set- the top 15, based on races won, and then point totals advance to the Chase Grid. The 16th slot is reserved for the points leader at the time, if he has not won a race. Otherwise, it goes on wins, if there is anyone on the outside looking in, or on points scored. The one proviso for this is that any race winner must be in the top 30 in the points standings after race 26 AND must have attempted to qualify for all 26 races. According to NASCAR the qualifying rule can be waived "in extreme circumstances", but the top-30 requirement is a firm one. The top 16 get their points total adjusted to 2,000 points plus 3 points for every win in the first 26 races. - Challenger Round (Chicagoland, New Hampshire, Dover)- the top 12 in points advance. Any driver who wins one of these three races automatically qualifies for the next round. The 12 advancing drivers have their point totals reset to 3,000. The four eliminated drivers have their point totals reset to 2,000 plus whatever points they earned in the Challenger Round. - Contender Round (Kansas, Charlotte, Talladega)- The top 8 in points advance. Any driver who wins one of these three races automatically advances to the next round. The 8 advancing drivers have their point totals reset to 4,000. The 4 eliminated drivers have their point totals reset to 2,000, plus whatever points they have earned in the Challenger and Contender Rounds. - Eliminator Round (Martinsville, Texas, Phoenix)- The top 4 in points advance. Any driver who wins one of these three races automatically advances to the next round. The 4 advancing drivers have their point totals reset to 5,000. The 4 eliminated drivers have their point totals reset to 2,000 plus whatever they have earned in the Challenger, Contender, and Eliminator Rounds. - Homestead-  WINNER TAKE ALL The highest finisher among the 4 remaining drivers is the Champion. All four drivers enter this race tied in points, and there will be NO bonus points for leading a lap, or most laps led. So, theoretically someone could win 10 of the first 26, then have 3 breakdowns, and be eliminated, and someone else could win 0 races, run sold for the year, and finish 25th at Homestead, as long as he's the first candidate in the finishing order.
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Jan 30, 2014 21:17
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Someone call Brian France, I've got an idea! If one WINNER TAKE ALL race is good, what about...36?The winner of the Daytona 500 is the "provisional Champion". If he keeps winning, he stays the champ, and if someone else wins, they're the champion. Whoever wins Homestead gets the big prize. Everyone's in the Chase! And the excitement goes ALL YEAR LONG! Have I got a future at NASCAR, or what?
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Jan 31, 2014 00:09
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Uncle Jam posted:What the gently caress is with resetting the points to 3,000 and 4,000 if everyone except the champion just goes back to 2,000 anyway? Why do this at all? To be fair, this one, after a bit of thinking and reading around does make some sense. After the cuts from 16 to 12, 12 to 8 and 8 to 4 the surviving drivers will all be tied on points. In other words, if someone gets hot in the first chase segment and wins 2 of the 3 races, he is not going to have an advantage in the next round. So, after Dover you are going to have a 12-way tie at 3,000 points, after Talladega, an 8-way tie at 4,000 points, and after Phoenix, a 4-way tie at 5,000. Dropping the eliminated drivers back down to 2,000 plus whatever they've rightfully earned in the Chase races still keeps something for the rest to race for, theoretically the driver eliminated from the Chase in 16th place can still finish as high as 5th in the final standings, with the requisite prize money that will carry. The 4 who go into Homestead are going to finish 1st-4th in some order, the rest are still racing for 5th on down. What is going to really screw with this is if there are more than 16 winners in the first 26 races (and for reference, there were 12 different winners in the first 26 last year). Everyone is hearing "Win, and you're in!" Except, if there are 17 winners, then at least 1 and maybe 2 are NOT going to be in. The driver in 17th in points among winning drivers will be out, and the one in 16th might be out if the points leader has no wins.
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Jan 31, 2014 01:47
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LordPants posted:It's quite clearly there if someone wins 10 of the first 16 races, crashes and misses five races they can still get him in. It's pretty obvious guys. Yeah. Random driver A winning 3 of the first 10, and then missing the next 16 because of an injury sustained in a crash is Extreme Circumstances. Random driver B wanting to pull double duty, or coming off of a suspension isn't. As far as the double goes, qualifying isn't the major issue, with the way Indy qualifies, the issue is getting from Indy to Charlotte before the race starts. Right now they are timed so that, if Indy is relatively smooth, the double is doable. If there's rain, or a slew of cautions, or anything like that, anyone doing the double is gonna have to drop out of Indy early to get to Charlotte on time.
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Jan 31, 2014 18:22
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Looking at the lineups, and the stats, I think this is the situation in each Duel: Duel 1 Locked in via qualifying speed: Dillon Locked in via owner's points and/or qualifying speed: Biffle, Newman, Earnhardt, Jr., Kenseth, Kyle Busch, Stewart, Not locked in at this point, but may the past champions provisional available: None Not locked in at this point, but may based on finishing position and/or qualifying speed and/or owner's points: Stenhouse, Jr., Ambrose, Almirola, Logano, Kahne, Harvick, Patrick, Allmendinger, Sorenson, Gilliland, Kligerman, Vickers, Wise, Nemechek, Bowman Must race in: Whitt, McDowell Duel 2 Locked in via qualifying speed: Martin Truex, Jr. Locked in via owner's points and/or qualifying speed and/or past champion's provisional: Edwards, Keselowski, Gordon, Johnson, Bowyer Not locked in, but may have the past champion's provisional available: Kurt Busch, Terry Labonte, Bobby Labonte Not locked in, but may based on finishing position and/or owner's points, and/or qualifying speed: Menard, Scott, Mears, Annett, Hamiln, Larson, Bayne, Allgaier, Cassill, Waltrip, McClure, McMurray, Ragan, Ryan Truex Must race in: Shepherd The order for the past champion's provisional is: Johnson, Keselowski, Stewart, Kurt Busch, Kenseth, Gordon, Bobby Labonte, Terry Labonte. And, the actual starting lineup for the 500 will break down like this: 1-2: Pole qualifiers (Dillon, Truex, Jr.) 15-32: Top 15 finishers in each Duel, excluding Dillon and Truex, Jr. Duel 1 finishers will line up in the odd starting positions, and Duel 2 finishers in the even starting positions. 33-36: The four fastest cars from qualifying who did not race their way in via the Duels 37-42: The six highest ranked cars from last season's owner's points who did not race their way in, or get in via speed. 43: Past champion's provisional: If all past champions race in, or get in via speed, or owner's points, the 43rd position will go to the highest-ranked car from last season's owner's points who has not already made the field.
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Feb 20, 2014 19:25
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Harvick informed on Fox that his car failed tech postrace. He seems...nonplussed.
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Feb 21, 2014 03:03
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The 48 hosed up the math on fuel mileage to cause all that mess.
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Feb 21, 2014 04:00
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David Ragan gets a gift, all the past champions got in on time, or raced their way in, so he gets the last provisional. Of course, half the field is gonna go to backups, or change engines, so the lineup is gonna be jumbled anyway.
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Feb 21, 2014 04:18
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