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FuzzySkinner posted:CART died in 2002. It wasn't legitimate until at the very least 2003.
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2014 04:54 |
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2024 14:34 |
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I do tip my hat to the IRL for surviving between 1996-2002.
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2014 04:55 |
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VikingSkull posted:The only real cool thing about CotA is the elevation change, that owns. The rest is new and shiny and modern, so it seems cooler than it is, but outside of those two things it's never going to be on the level of Laguna Seca, Road Atlanta, the Glen etc. etc. Everybody does this, unless the track is absolutely terrible (Caesar's Palace)
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2014 02:53 |
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Dudley posted:Not a hope in hell. Long Beach maybe (it was at one point an F1 race) but the others hells no.
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2014 22:46 |
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Cygni posted:F1 test seats are a complete dead end, but happy she found some cash to at least do something next year. Yeah. Many F3000 champions ended their careers in those seats.
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2014 05:07 |
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Cygni posted:Double post for good news, word going around that Verizon has signed a long term deal to be the title sponsor of IndyCar, including big promotion spending. Good news.
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# ¿ Feb 18, 2014 19:33 |
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WindyMan posted:So what you're trying to say is, the IRL has lost the Open Wheel Wars They lost a long time ago. The split was stupid anyway.
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2014 01:38 |
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Fag Boy Jim posted:The 1992 Indy 500 had Gordon Johncock, Al Unser Sr, Mario Andretti, and AJ Foyt starting in it, with a combined age of around 500. It's gotta be said that times have changed considerably; I don't know if the over 40s can compete effectively anymore.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2014 09:08 |
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Alfa would be a good choice. They could redeem their image in Indycar, last time it didn't go so well. I wonder if Toyota, Mazda, or Nissan would be interested.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2014 23:27 |
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On the whole F1 to Indy drivers have fared much better than Indy to F1 drivers, and that is a fact.
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2014 22:17 |
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Cygni posted:Mario and JV won F1 Championships, and Emmo, Zanardi, and Nigel won IndyCar/CART/IRL championships. It's not a dick measuring competition though so really who cares. It says more about those guys than it does either series. Can we not defend Nigel Mansell here please.
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2014 22:56 |
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I hope Indycar doesn't lose Long Beach.
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2014 22:31 |
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Caesar's Palace is the worst drat track of all time, and nobody wanted to watch cars drive around a glorified Auto-X course in 118 degree heat. It wasn't Bernie that hastened its demise.
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# ¿ Mar 3, 2014 21:56 |
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There really isn't a need to have 2 US GPS for F1, although Long Beach was an F1 event in the past. In a perfect world both could run there.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2014 19:23 |
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The Azeri race should be held on those oil platforms that are slowly sinking into the Caspian sea.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2014 20:33 |
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I like the US GP. F1 does pretty well in Canada too, so there is room for both series in North America.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2014 00:53 |
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Why did Ganassi switch to Chevrolet?
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2014 21:53 |
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VikingSkull posted:He wasn't off I don't think, if Hennessey can make a street legal car go 270 an Indycar would've been that fast by now. To be honest they probably could have hit those speeds 15 years ago. EDIT: I should say safety be damned. Human Grand Prix fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Mar 12, 2014 |
# ¿ Mar 12, 2014 03:07 |
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Dudley posted:He seems to be in some limbo here, he's now driving for a team that has finished dead last in both years of their existence. In 2012 they scored one (1) point. As much as I hate to say it GP2 (Like F3000 before it) are where careers go to die.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2014 14:12 |
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I am going to call bullshit on that article, especially the Andretti part. Andretti severely underperformed in what was a pretty good car. I do agree about the CART thing - the split killed a series which had great potential and was pretty popular.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2014 18:32 |
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Sulman posted:The difference in mentality is huge. In F1, there's little respect unless you're at the very top of the pile. Andretti was a superstar in the US and I I read that coming to Europe was a nasty jolt to earth, but I can't recall the source, sorry. His wife in particular struggled with the relative anonymity. I was gonna say too that "being faster than Ricardo Patrese" during that time wasn't all that impressive; he clearly did not care any more going by his performance in 1993.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2014 03:06 |
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Personperson14 posted:Oh well like jesus there's 500000000 other brazillian open wheel drivers they can name a track after, not the same one that already had one. That track was piece of poo poo anyway.
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2014 14:11 |
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Indycar failed to capitalize on it's 80s and early 90s potential. A shame, really.
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2014 16:09 |
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The tobacco ban is bullshit, this goes for every motorsport.
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2014 16:46 |
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SurfersParadiseSurfersParadiseSURFERSPARADISE *begins convulsing on floor*
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2014 19:29 |
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Sato fell off pretty hard.
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2014 01:21 |
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22 cars is not that bad of a grid tbh. Ideally I'd want 27-28 but the racing is good so who cares.
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2014 05:46 |
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skaboomizzy posted:I watched the NASCAR race live and St Pete on DVR today (my folks were visiting and my dad is old). The 16th driver in a 22-car IndyCar street race field is much more competitive than the 31st driver in a 43-car NASCAR race or whoever is trundling around at the back of the pack in F1. It's also nostalgia haze for me; I was a CART fan when I was really young but in hindsight the back-markers in those times were pretty bad; like Arnd Meier and Shigeaki Hattori. It seemed like Meier was always in dead last.
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2014 07:12 |
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I'm not blaming Hawksworth for that happening.
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2014 07:44 |
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I find humor in the fact that a family with the surname "France" is in charge of an American sport.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2014 04:42 |
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KingShibby posted:It completely baffles me that people would rather watch NASCAR over IndyCar. IndyCars are faster, higher tech, better looking (imo), and require more skill to drive. CART and the IRL pissed away any goodwill the series had after 1995; Americans "understood" it just fine and enjoyed it.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2014 18:52 |
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Fag Boy Jim posted:Apart from the split, it's probably because after about 2001 Indycars and Champcars combined for ten consecutive years of absolutely dogshit racing product. 2002 was the last good CART year, but otherwise agreed.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2014 18:53 |
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Fag Boy Jim posted:2002 had a semi-decent grid but I remember the racing that year being pretty poor- if I remember right, there was a lot of contention about them allowing traction control that year. I liked 2002 but I was also pretty young at the time and I loved both the B02/00 and Da Matta, so it was good for me. But yeah he did stomp the field. The quality of the field dropped markedly after that. I don't know if you were watching CART/Champ car after 2002 - I did all the way to 2007. Bad times.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2014 21:45 |
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I will say, even though I hate the IRL, that the sheer amount of entries (particularly in 1996) was cool.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2014 22:32 |
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Cygni posted:and Tony George was literally paying teams cash to roll out cars in May, a practice that didn't stop until like 2008. I did not know that, thanks.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2014 23:05 |
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I'm looking forward to the Toronto double header again.
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2014 00:46 |
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Wasabi the J posted:It's been two years since I worked at the hotel with big fountains, but I wanna say it was a Lumina. I remember it made the best noise in the parking garage; you could here the I hate the goddamn Lumina.
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2014 10:52 |
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I thought maybe he at least participated in grassroots motorsports or something until I heard the word "Lumina".
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2014 15:26 |
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Even after the spilt I called them Indycars.
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2014 18:37 |
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2024 14:34 |
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Mark Plourde entered his first Indycar race at the age of 13.
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2014 21:01 |