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Nipponophile
Apr 8, 2009


Imgur seems to be working better now, hooray! Tank pun!





Since Scarlett doesn't seem to "get it", the guys set out to explain what sets the MOBAT apart.



Steeler explains that participation in the Armed Forces Day parade is General Flagg's brainchild. It seems some of the top brass were getting concerned about using such a high-value asset in the Joes' sensitive operations, due to the potential to be targeted for capture. Flagg wants to take the opportunity to march it under their noses and prove that the MOBAT is indistinguishable from a regular tank. Gen. Flagg covers his actions by sending a hand-carried memo to Gen. Austin at the Pentagon, but nefarious forces are at work. Cobra infiltrators operate the airport security, and the X-ray film follows a circuitous route until...



The courier bears the information to Cobra Commander himself, who is excited to hear the news.



Later, a nervous Gen. Flagg mutters to himself that "They should be arriving in about ten minutes." But who?



Breaker and Clutch note that it's a bit weird for Steeler to have the gunsight magnification cranked up to max, given that they're not even carrying any live ammo, but Steeler seems to have his own reasons.



The parade is stopped to allow crosstown traffic through, and the Joes are mystified as the Springfield drum majorettes unfurl banners along either side of them.





Admiral Ackbar would be proud, Steeler. Clutch guns the engine and pulls away as the Springfield band reaches into their instruments to pull out small arms and anti-tank weaponry. The MOBAT attempts to escape via the streets, but this is New York.



Cobra is jamming all comm frequencies, so the Joes can't call for help. Rather than remaining stuck in gridlock, Clutch makes a desperate move.



The MOBAT turns a corner and manages to briefly elude its pursuers. The Cobra capture team contacts Cobra Commander to inform him that they are proceeding cautiously, but he reminds them that they cannot run around downtown Manhattan with machine guns and anti-tank weaponry very long without drawing unwanted attention.



Clutch picks up on the fact that one of the troopers was speaking direct to Cobra Commander. With the limited range on the backpack radio being used, that means Cobra Commander can't be far away! Steeler decides to turn the tables and attempt to capture one of the Cobra troops and force him to reveal his commander's location. Meanwhile, Cobra's sensors have located the Joe tank. A comm linkup is made from the ops HQ to the team in the field.



The Cobra troops realize that the Joes would have fired by now if they could have, so they turn and begin to deploy anti-tank weapons until...



The MOBAT resumes the parade route with prisoners in tow and approaches the reviewing stand where Gen. Flagg and the other brass await. As they near the stand, Clutch's sensors light up. He's got a bead on what must be Cobra Commander's position.



As the other VIPs abandon the reviewing stand, Gen. Flagg draws his sidearm and foolishly attempts to stand up to a tank.



Surprise! Cobra was in position all along!





Later, at the Pit, as Gen. Flagg is tended to, Steeler explains his plan to force the Cobra troops to surrender by firing a warning shot, but Flagg is confused.

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Nipponophile
Apr 8, 2009


This issue sees the introduction of the October Guard, G.I. Joe's Soviet counterpart. Let's read issue 6!





The Joe team arrives back at the Pit from a hairy mission, looking forward to some downtime, but no such luck.



In the briefing room, Hawk explains the objective: recovery of a top-secret experimental Soviet aircraft from the mountains of Afghanistan. The anti-gravity tech on board would be quite the catch, but the Russians are scrambling to retrieve it and Cobra has taken an interest as well. Afghan rebels have captured the plane and agreed to hand it over to the Americans, so getting it out will be the Joes' job. Hawk's plan is to airdrop a vehicle that can't be much good because they never made a toy of it.



When Hawk states that this mission will be on a purely volunteer basis, every hand in the briefing room shoots up. Having expected this, Hawk reveals his pre-selected team: Stalker, Scarlett, Clutch, Steeler, Grand Slam, and Breaker. Later, while the Joes are airlifted towards their destination and Clutch awkwardly hits on Scarlett, sinister workings are afoot back at the Pit.





What is this treachery? Say it isn't so, Hawk! Unaware of this betrayal, the strike force makes landfall in the Hindu Kush mountains.



Remember when militant Afghan insurgents were the good guys? ... Yeah, that dates this book a bit.



...and arming them couldn't possibly backfire in any way... right?

Our crew quickly gets to work assembling the marvel of engineering, the RTV.



They're ready to roll in a matter of minutes.



As the Joes head out for the border...



The crew settles in to their positions, unaware of the forces observing them.



An hour later, the RTV comes up on a canyon not marked on the charts. As they discuss their options for crossing it, the Joes suddenly come under fire.



Stalker asks Clutch to shift the RTV to a better firing position, but...





The October Guard are pushed back by superior firepower. As they duck behind available cover in face of the onslaught, Horrorshow asks Col. Brekhov "What's our plan?"



The Guard close in with the Joes and fierce hand-to-hand fighting ensues. Just then...





to be continued...

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006



The Russians would not be referring to WW1 as the "Eastern Front"

My immersion. . . . ruined!


Also, two updates and no comments? For shame. This is awesome Nipponophile and you better keep them coming.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005

border patrol qt


Plaster Town Cop

Even though I read these, it was so long ago that I only vaguely remember how it ends. The suspense is killing me.

Somebody Awful
Nov 27, 2011

BORN TO DIE
HAIG IS A FUCK
Kill Em All 1917
I am trench man
410,757,864,530 SHELLS FIRED




Cyrano4747 posted:

The Russians would not be referring to WW1 as the "Eastern Front"

Maybe his grandfather fought in the early Sino-Soviet border wars.

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010


IIRC, Stalker was called Ranger because they hadnt decided on the name when the script went to press.

Crash74
May 11, 2009


Wasn't there a gi joe spoof series on the sa front page? I vaguely remember that it was pretty funny, it might have been about cobra commander.

EDIT: found it: http://www.somethingawful.com/series/cobra-after-action-report/

Oxford Comma
Jun 26, 2011
Oxford Comma: Hey guys I want a cool big dog to show off! I want it to be ~special~ like Thor but more couch potato-like because I got babbies in the house!
Everybody: GET A LAB.
Oxford Comma: OK! (gets a a pit/catahoula mix)


I never realized how jingoistic the GI Joes were back when I had them.

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

Their eyes locked and suddenly there was the sound of breaking glass.


Oxford Comma posted:

I never realized how jingoistic the GI Joes were back when I had them.
Really? I really don't think they're that bad, given that they're a cold war AMERICA gently caress YEAH special forces toy.

I found there to be a lot of undercurrent of "do unto others" and whatnot. Plus the whole cobra thing being a cross between Amway, Mormons, and the Tea Party (It would have been the militia then, I guess) makes the enemy among us, not some dastardly foreigners. Despite the whole Baroness/Destro/Major Bludd eurotrash thing.

Nipponophile
Apr 8, 2009


Awww, you guys, look what all this positive interest gets you... a new update! Let's read issue #7!



I haven't commented on the art much, but I love that cover.



Cobra Commander has his priority set on retrieving the Russian aircraft, so he directs his forces towards that goal and leaves a token force of two Vipers to handle the execution of the G.I. Joe and October Guard teams. Even in the face of imminent death, Clutch seems strangely optimistic.





Turns out Clutch had palmed his remote control for the VAMP's guns and was able to work it without the Cobras noticing. Of course, now that the immediate threat is gone, prior hostilities threaten to flare up.



"Oh stewardess, I speak jive."



A couple of the Joes express their displeasure. In the case that the cargo is lost, they are supposed to break radio silence and call for an evac. Stalker asks what is to prevent the October Guard from taking off after the plane if they leave, and "Besides, what am I going to say to Hawk? 'Gee, we almost had it back safe, but Cobra came and took it away.'?" With some misgivings, a temporary truce is reached.



During the previous fight, Breaker had the presence of mind to plant a radio tracer on the RTV. After the Joes help the Guard repair their vehicle, both teams launch into hot pursuit. The trail leads them into Iran and through a firefight with an Iranian border patrol. Later, the radio tracker comes to a halt.



A scan of the fortress reveals nothing but solid walls, so Stalker straps on the JUMP jet to take a closer look.



Cobra Commander quickly realizes that his executioners have failed, but issues orders to allow the enemies into the fortress. Once inside, they can be more easily disposed of. Meanwhile, Stalker doesn't see any openings but spots an odd concentric pattern on the roof. He's concerned that it might be an alarm system, but Col. Brekhov states that his team has an alarm interference device on hand.



The teams split up to assault the fortress from opposite sides. While Clutch is left outside to provide fire support and sexually harass Scarlett ("If you want to touch up your eye-shadow, I'll let you use my rear-view mirror"), Steeler and Breaker head to the roof via JUMP jet, while the other Joes search for a way in on the ground. Before Flash can set his laser rifle to opening a hole, a door springs open for the G.I. Joe team. Meanwhile, the Russians send their man Schrage to the roof with a grappling hook. As the roof team examines the pattern there, he is ultimately the one to recognize it as a "hot plate".





As Stalker's team penetrates further into the fortress, he is fortunate enough to make his "spot traps" roll.



They continue to proceed onward, past a deadfall and through a flash flood, thanks to quick thinking by Scarlett.



Stalker's team hears a hissing sound. Is it gas? Nope! Spitting cobras!



After fighting through some more Cobra troops and the judicious use of plastic explosive...



Cobra Commander suddenly appears with a detachment of troops, and realizing that delegation may have been a problem...



The Joes prepare to board the RTV and move out, but...



infrared35
Jan 12, 2005

border patrol qt


Plaster Town Cop

What a dick.

ShitheadDeluxe
May 14, 2007


They needed a G.I. Joe MACV guy with the KITD/FOHS (Kept in the Dark/Fed Only Horseshit) mushroom badges

LvK
Feb 27, 2006

FIVE STARS!!


Random file card type hijinks:

Larry Hama routinely carried a briefcase with an Uzi in it, despite being based in New York and routinely traveling interstate. Also, since he was Japanese-American and the god of GI Joe, he was naturally trained in the use of the katana and Japanese longbow. Obviously.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006



Wait, so what happened with the guys who got zapped on the roof? I missed that bit somewhere.

Creamed Cormp
Jan 8, 2011

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN


Holy poo poo, Brekhov is ice cold. Will we get to see more of the october guard? Will more Cobra Commander doubles die?

Nipponophile
Apr 8, 2009


Cyrano4747 posted:

Wait, so what happened with the guys who got zapped on the roof? I missed that bit somewhere.

I read back over the issue, and there's just one small panel showing them being loaded into the RTV right before the Joes leave. I guess they were knocked out and brought down to the garage by Cobra.

WitchFetish posted:

Holy poo poo, Brekhov is ice cold. Will we get to see more of the october guard? Will more Cobra Commander doubles die?

The October Guard will be back, but not for a while.

Oxford Comma
Jun 26, 2011
Oxford Comma: Hey guys I want a cool big dog to show off! I want it to be ~special~ like Thor but more couch potato-like because I got babbies in the house!
Everybody: GET A LAB.
Oxford Comma: OK! (gets a a pit/catahoula mix)


stealie72 posted:

Really? I really don't think they're that bad, given that they're a cold war AMERICA gently caress YEAH special forces toy.

I found there to be a lot of undercurrent of "do unto others" and whatnot. Plus the whole cobra thing being a cross between Amway, Mormons, and the Tea Party (It would have been the militia then, I guess) makes the enemy among us, not some dastardly foreigners. Despite the whole Baroness/Destro/Major Bludd eurotrash thing.

Ehh, I guess its not *that* bad, now that I consider it. I guess its just amusing to see the US/USSR presented as good/bad in a binary black/white type. Particularly when I loving thought like that as a 12 year old.

djdanno13
Apr 20, 2004

Killing Nazi Zombies since June 14 1775



Unless there was extra exposition that we didn't see, I'm almost surprised how "good" the soviets are portrayed here compared to nearly any other comic or Saturday cartoon of the time. Seeing as they are portrayed with traits of courage, honor, and duty. I mean the colonel advanced on withering fire from a squad of joes with technical mounted hmg support and forced them into hand to hand combat. That's some MOH type poo poo right there. Keep up the updates please, enjoying this immensely.


Also SA front page had a GI Joe parody of "world war z" shortly after the cobra aar that was a fun read.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006



djdanno13 posted:

Unless there was extra exposition that we didn't see, I'm almost surprised how "good" the soviets are portrayed here compared to nearly any other comic or Saturday cartoon of the time. Seeing as they are portrayed with traits of courage, honor, and duty. I mean the colonel advanced on withering fire from a squad of joes with technical mounted hmg support and forced them into hand to hand combat. That's some MOH type poo poo right there. Keep up the updates please, enjoying this immensely.


Also SA front page had a GI Joe parody of "world war z" shortly after the cobra aar that was a fun read.

Yeah, no poo poo. Back when I was a kid I was hyping myself up to fight WW3 against those evil bastard commies.

Smiling Jack
Dec 2, 2001

I sucked a dick for bus fare and then I walked home.



The Oktober Guard don't re-appear for a while, but they are generally presented as a pretty hard core bunch of bad-asses.

Nipponophile
Apr 8, 2009


I'm reading through the rest of the series to refresh myself, and I thought I'd drop this context-free panel here just to show the absolute depths of depravity that Cobra is willing to inflict on even its own members.

Nipponophile
Apr 8, 2009


So I know we talk about Larry Hama a lot, but there were a handful of issues that he didn't write, including this next one. The writer here is Herb Trimpe, who served as artist for most of the early G.I. Joe comics.

One thing you may have noticed is that Cobra isn't using any of their distinctive vehicles yet, like the HISS tank or the FANG helicopter. The simple explanation is that they didn't exist yet. The initial launch of G.I. Joe action figures was very light on enemies, offering only a generic Cobra trooper and officer. Even Cobra Commander was only available via mail order. As a result, Trimpe had to come up with his own vehicles to participate in this assault. Personally, I think he did a great job of making original creations that fit into the Joe idiom. You can judge for yourselves. Let's read issue #8!





That figure with the billowing rain slicker is no other than Cobra Commander, who has his binoculars focused on a familiar silhouette.



Elsewhere, we find the Joes conducting training under Arctic conditions. Some of them are taking it more seriously than others.



Hawk interrupts to inform the Joes of their new mission. A new satellite is being put into orbit that can detect the network of undersea launch platforms that Intelligence says Cobra is building. The Joes are assigned to protect the launch, as there is evidence Cobra is aware of these plans.



Meanwhile, Cobra Commander docks at one of the underwater launch bases in the Gulf of Mexico.



Cobra is indeed aware of the satellite launch intended to detect their platforms.



As Cobra plans their attack, the Joes arrive at Cape Kennedy to plan their defense.



Flash and Breaker are assigned to remain with the shuttle orbiter at all times, including launch, orbit, re-entry, and landing. The next morning, the crawler moves the shuttle into position.



As the shuttle reaches the launch pad, Hawk receives a call from Stalker in the outer ring. "They're coming out of the ocean with stuff like we've never seen before!"



The launch countdown can't be hurried, so the Joes fight for time. Grand Slam hits a SEA legs with his cannon, but return fire quickly destroys his gun. The Joes in the outer ring attempt to regroup.



Steeler decides that the best defense...



With the first wave foiled, the Cobra amphibious assault guns move forward. Stalker radios Hawk with a sitrep and learns that Hawk has already sent the rest of the team to reinforce. Hawk has been following the battle from his position on the launch gantry. The Cobra assault guns catch the MOBAT with a land torpedo.



Gimli and Legolas these guys are not.



Only Hawk stands in position to defend the shuttle.



Cobra Commander gloats over the fact that at least one Joe much have perished in the backblast from the launch. But no! Hawk managed to duck into an emergency blast shelter with seconds to spare. He loads the rest of the Joes into a chopper to follow the retreating Cobra Commander back to his base. Before long, they spot a Cobra seabase floating on the surface, seemingly undefended.



Though they radio the shuttle crew in orbit, an evasive movement burn will take minutes to execute, and the missile is only seconds away.





The Joe assault on the Cobra seabase proceeds successfully, but...



Cobra Commander broadcasts that the base is set to self-destruct in five minutes. Disarming the device would be impossible, given the time.



The Cobra troops prove all too loyal and go down with the ship.



The Joes' ammo is soaked! Their only chance lies with Zap and his solid fuel rocket projectiles.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002






I had no idea this comic wasn't as awful as the TV show.

This is pretty cool, Nipponophile.

Nipponophile
Apr 8, 2009


So I want to go ahead and get this out of the way, here's the last real "stand alone" comic to come up for a while. Like the last issue, this one was also not written by Larry Hama.





As the Joe team executes a no-knock raid on a Cobra safehouse, the Cobra techs attempt to dump their data.



Cobra Commander briefly gloats before remotely detonating the cabin, but Breaker escapes with some critical computer tapes. They mention an upcoming assassination attempt involving U.S. diplomat Brian Hassell, who is conducting talks with the Middle Eastern nation of Al-Alawi. Hassell's talks are crucial to moving Al-Alawi into the U.S. sphere of influence, so the Joe team is assigned to his defense.



Cobra Commander receives the bad news that the Joes are escorting Hassell, but he seems strangely excited at this news.

As we catch up with the diplomat, he is playing out the last of his vacation time on the French Riviera while his escorts attempt to convince him to maintain a low profile. As they hit the beach, Cobra frogmen attempt an assault only to be repelled by Clutch's well-hidden ordinance.



Scarlett and Hassell make a quick retreat to their hotel room for Hassell to retrieve his bags. When they go to exit, the door is locked, and there is a distinctive ticking sound outside...





Meanwhile, in London, some of the other Joes are following up on the trail of a known arms dealer...



But only seconds after this exchange, Sutherland is on the radio to Cobra command, reporting his situation. The address delivery was planned all along! As a reward, Sutherland receives a fatal shock in order to minimize loose ends.

Clutch and Scarlett approach their rendezvous point at an airfield in France, only to be pursued by Cobra troopers. While Scarlett discourages pursuit with a few grenades, Clutch drives their car up the cargo ramp as the plane begins to lift off. Just moments into the flight, Scarlett notices that the plane is headed the wrong way! The pilot is a Cobra plant! She quickly knocks him out, but...



Clutch manages to crash-land the plane on a flat stretch of mountain, allowing Haskell and the Joes to continue onwards in their car. Meanwhile, Stalker and Snake-Eyes are investigating the Amsterdam address they got from Sutherland. It leads them to a brothel, and when Stalker heads upstairs, he is greeted by a hologram of Cobra Commander!



Stalker manages to contact Snake-Eyes with his last breath, and Snake-Eyes blows open the door with a placed charge. Clutch and Scarlett, unaware of the position they are in, continue to drive Haskell through the French Alps in the face of stiff opposition.



With the pursuing cars out of the picture, enemy helicopters drop gas grenades on the car. One manages to land inside the vehicle, unnoticed...





Haskell restrains the Joes with the intention of pinning the assassination on them after he escapes, but Clutch and Scarlett immediately set to freeing themselves from their bonds. As Haskell heads downhill to the chateau to meet the Al-Alawi ambassador, the Joes fight their way free and locate a pair of skis in the process.





While it seems everything has gone wrong...



At Cobra HQ, Cobra Commander receives the news. He is not angry, for "It was only a game, and there will always be... another game!"

With this issue under wraps, we move onto a new level of the G.I. Joe comic. Issue #10 begins the long form narrative that Hama is remembered for. Hold onto your asses, rear end-holders. poo poo's about to get real*.

*real involved with ninjas, car crashes, two-fisted military action, ninjas, shocking betrayals, blatant merchandising, ninjas, 80s jingoism, and also ninjas

Psion
Dec 13, 2002






Jove!

that guy's face.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006



kinda loving that the assassin pulled a P38 on the Joes.

Nipponophile
Apr 8, 2009


Won't you journey with me now to a little town called Springfield? Let's read Issue #10!



We open in media res as the G.I. Joe team begins an insertion on a suspected Cobra safehouse.





The secondary assault team makes their way through the sewers below.





Snake Eyes and Scarlett try to anchor a rope on the roof fixtures, but it gets cut from above by a Cobra trooper. The rooftop team is knocked cold from their fall into a featureless cell and quickly relieved of their weapons.

When Scarlett misses the scheduled radio check, Hawk realizes they've lost the element of surprise and orders a full-on assault.



Inside the cell, Zap notices an unusual curve to the walls. As he ponders out loud what it might mean, the answer is quickly made apparent.



With no air support, the remaining Joes can only watch as the craft flies into the distance.





A couple of guards outside the cell mention that security detail is so much easier since Dr. Venom started dosing the prisoners' water supply with hallucinogens. People don't even try to escape anymore.



Pfft, what a ludicrous concept! Can you believe they expect us to believe this crazy sci-fi bullsh- Oh. Oh, wait a minute...

Meanwhile, Scarlett and Zap are trippin' balls...



Their kid cellmate seems to have an idea about the water. He holds the container up to the lightbulb hoping that heat will destroy the effectiveness of the drugs.

Back in Dr. Venom's lab, the second phase of the process begins, and Venom attempts to "read" Snake Eyes thoughts. Snake Eyes struggles to scatter his thoughts to avoid giving away the HQ location.



At the prison, Scarlett and Zap start to come out of their fugue. The kid explains that he'd read about drugs losing their potency when exposed to heat in Scientific American or something like that. He claims that he's got a plan to escape, but he'd been waiting on someone else who could help. The Joes agree to go along with his plan, since it seems like their only choice.



As Snake Eyes continues to resist, the prisoners begin their ploy.





Dr. Venom begins to receive glimpses of the Joes' motor pool... their firing range... but nothing to provide a location. Snake Eyes continues to bring up disturbing memories to block the probe, but each one must be stronger and more painful than before to be effective.

Aboveground, we get our first look at the true evil of Cobra.



The boy directs them to an arcade which hides Dr. Venom's labs. The only way in is to brazen it out and walk right through.



Suddenly, some of the arcade-goers speak up. They've never seen these two adults in town, and one of them recognizes the kid as a traitor! The laser turret in the middle of the arcade omninously swings to cover them.

Dr. Venom is approaching his goal, but Snake Eyes' vital signs are becoming irregular. His heartbeat is slowing drastically. Before Venom can take action, he must first respond to the intruder alert sounded in the arcade above.



Pictured above, the first, but not nearly the last appearance of Ninja BullshitTM.



Seeing that the junior officers seem to have things in hand, Venom returns to his lab to find Snake Eyes with no pulse. He begins to pull the body from the brain-wave scanner and ready it for his next prisoner when suddenly...



Snake Eyes bursts upstairs and quickly shoots out the fuse box, depriving the laser of power. They run to the car ahead of the pursuing Cobra kids.



Arriving at the airfield, they spot the strange craft that brought them there. The aircrew is overpowered, and preparations are made to leave. The kid refuses to go with the Joes, stating he has family working in the resistance here and he must get back to them. The Joes coerce a Cobra pilot at gunpoint to take them up, but unfortunately they missed the backup piece he had in his... helmet?



With the radio and navigational panels shot up and a storm blocking out all visual guidance, all Zap can do is keep the ship level and heading away from Springfield. Hours pass and finally the storm breaks, offering a view of a large port city below. Not trusting their ability to land the strange aircraft, the Joes point the craft out to sea and hit the silk.



Those Marvel guys sure are swell, aren't they?

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Oh awesome thread. I was big into the toys as a kid, with the hydrofoil and the sr-71 type plane being the Crown Jewels of my collection.

This has been great, I had a bunch of these comics and possibly still have them tucked away in a box. Once Zartan, storm shadow and the rippers show up poo poo gets -real-

Nipponophile
Apr 8, 2009


To everyone who has been reading so far, thank you. Your responses and comments have kept me motivated to keep progressing through the comic when it's felt like a lot of work.

Only there's one small issue, and I feel obligated to come clean with you all.

I have presented the Marvel G.I. Joe comic book as an underrated, serious military action comic which far surpasses the expectations of those who are only familiar with the cartoon. This remains true to a point, but this point is something that I feel I must fully explain.

The last G.I. Joe comic I purchased was issue #95. It had a cover date of December 1989. I read a couple of issues past that, but never seriously, and never more than once. At the time, I was getting more into the X-Men, and the G.I. Joe toy line had gone way beyond ridiculous to where I had no desire to purchase any more.

So what does all this have to do with right now? Well, I started re-reading the comics as preparation for my thread here, and for the first time I have experienced the G.I. Joe comics that were published in the 1990s...

HOW COULD I HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT THE 1990S WERE THE WORST DECADE EVER FOR THE AMERICAN COMIC INDUSTRY???

It's seriously as if the quality just fell off a cliff when the calendar flipped over. I honestly had no idea... I'm committed to this thing now, but I feel as if I must warn you all. poo poo is coming. Not today, not tomorrow, probably not for months yet... but it is coming... and I must deliver it to you on an irregular schedule. May God have mercy on our souls.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

I suspect the 90s comic poo poo fest was tied into the whole trading card collecting frenzy, you had issues with 5 different laser etched covers or whatever the gently caress with no regard given to story. And then you had the constant terrible crossovers like Inferno etc.

And then you had Image comics pushing style over any kind of substance. How many issues of spawn came out with no discernible plot what so ever, for a single example.

I am with you, it's what killed comics for me. I liked some questionable stuff in the 80s like Joe, new universe and all the punisher stuff. But they were art in comparison.

priznat fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Feb 14, 2014

I eats my spinach
Jan 16, 2005

'sup gordon

Just chiming in to let you know I finally got around to reading this thread and have enjoyed it so far, through the 80s and into the 90s I was forbidden from both reading comic books and watching pretty much any cartoons except classic Disney or Looney Tunes. 8-year-old me got occasional glimpses of comics at friend's houses including GI Joe and they blew my loving mind

I don't get nostalgic for my childhood a lot but stupid old comics like these are one of the few memories of 80s pop culture that I can look back upon on fondly (or at all)

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004



Old school Looney Toons were probably more violent than any episode of GI Joe.

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010


The 90s books fell into the Extreme! Phase that all American kids culture fell into for the 90s. It went from having A list writers and artists, to a hand out to people who are failing in the industry and to newbies to cut their teeth on and it shows. It also became the Ninja show for a while and broke tons of cannon- like showing Snake Eyes face and IIRC having him speak here and there- and resetting some origins from Vietnam to Iraq: First Blood. It also did a lot more to tie into the failing toy line- crossing over from the toys was the shitastic Star Brigade. They get really bad and turn into straight 24 pages of ads for Hasbro's struggling toy lines- including the once popular Transformers in regular issues instead of miniseries/crossovers. One issue had Destro's castle be a transformer. Yeah. They sucked.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005

border patrol qt


Plaster Town Cop

This was indirectly covered, but the 1990s saw the rise of Rob Liefeld.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

infrared35 posted:

This was indirectly covered, but the 1990s saw the rise of Rob Liefeld.

Huuuuuuge chests for the men and women, and pouches, pouches POUCHES!!

5er
Jun 1, 2000





The retarded fake-guns are definitely the best part. Boxes and tapering cylinders! How menacing!

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010


Don't forget all the guns were cracked.
And no feet. And small wrists. And always squinting and grimacing.
You could go on for hours about how bad many of the 90s artists were, and Liefeld leads the pack.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

The funny side of GI Joe

http://youtu.be/ogEtfIdgjpY

Psion
Dec 13, 2002






Nipponophile posted:


So what does all this have to do with right now? Well, I started re-reading the comics as preparation for my thread here, and for the first time I have experienced the G.I. Joe comics that were published in the 1990s...

Yeah, I was sort of looking to pick up the 80s GI Joe comics because of you and this thread but even I knew to avoid the entirety of the 90s.

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iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd



Who wants a body massage?

Give him the stick--DON'T GIVE HIM THE STICK...OOOOOOOOOOOOO

Hey kid, Imma computer

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