Tome 4: Overgrown poodles rasslin' with dragons

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Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

How to unlock Mindslayer: Go yeek Archmage. Put a point in arcane eye. Get glacial vapor. Throw it down out of range while the guy dies. Done. You can see him, but he doesn't activate because you're way out of range and he can't see you.

I have been told this works by friends but I haven't tried it myself. I'll try it later and confirm it.

# ¿ Jan 25, 2014 21:39

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 00:28

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Tsurupettan posted:

How to unlock Mindslayer: Go yeek Archmage. Put a point in arcane eye. Get glacial vapor. Throw it down out of range while the guy dies. Done. You can see him, but he doesn't activate because you're way out of range and he can't see you.

I have been told this works by friends but I haven't tried it myself. I'll try it later and confirm it.

So yes, this is correct.

Tribeam archmage to get through, dump points in vapor + arcane eye, sneak up and cast vapor on him til he dies of chills. I took off my lamp 'just in case'.

# ¿ Jan 26, 2014 01:29

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Decided to play a Shadows-based Doomed. Seems solid, shadows do a lot of damage. Reminds me of Oozemancer in some ways.

I was thinking of going crazy and running Darkness too, since the multipliers will be pretty hefty once maxed out. Does the damage increase from targets being in your darkness also affect your shadows, though? And does the darkness gently caress with their targeting, or do they see through it?

I know Mental Tyranny would let Force of Will abilities trigger Madness. Will it also convert some of the Shadows damage into Mind and let them trigger Madness as well?

Does Feed Power also boost the Shadows? I guess what I am asking is what effects the Shadows inherit when you gain percentile increases from other talent trees.

# ¿ May 18, 2014 19:05

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Magres posted:

What happens if you go into the rift with a PM?

Also Tsuru how in God's name do you deal with the first 15 levels or so on a Shadows Doomed? Like people complain about Cursed having a slow start and Cursed ramps up six times as fast as Shadows Doomed. I just can't get far enough in to get Shadows rolling without getting bored and irritated at them being idiot spazzes.

I floated 2 points each in Willful Strike and Reproach and then slowly filled out the Shadows tree. It's a bit slow til you hit 8 or so, then it's fairly smooth. Once you hit 12 and can control them it's solid.

# ¿ May 19, 2014 01:43

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

How do I play a rogue? :v:

I've been at this poo poo for ages but they've always seemed lackluster and awful to me. They are truly a mystery.

# ¿ May 19, 2014 18:44

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Jowy posted:

I wrote an entirely too long effort post about it a while back (possibly in this thread), but the cliffnotes version:

Choose whether you give two dicks about stealth or not. Non-stealth rogue in massive armor is actually totally viable even if it's kinda defeating the purpose of the class.

If you're going stealth, you probably want to go Cornac so you can use a category point to bump the tree. I even went so far as to take the Tricks of the Trade prodigy to boost it even further, but I wouldn't advocate that for everyone. Some artifacts boost it too like the Serpentine Cloak, I'm pretty sure you can get your mastery in the tree to 2.00 or higher without mastery amulets. Max Stealth and Unseen Actions ASAP so you have the best chance of remaining in stealth, and obviously max Shadowstrike very soon afterwards so you basically explode things when stealthed. Abuse Deadly Strikes and Dirty Fighting a lot since the former is instant, and the latter is either a stun or an instant attack. Take advantage of Nimble Movements because you can jump into the middle of a couple of dudes while stealthed and just gib them outright with Whirlwind. Or Windblade, since Windblade loving rules, though you may also prefer going for Giant Leap for extra mobility. If I hadn't gone Tricks of the Trade, I'd have taken Giant Leap, personally.

By midgame through the end of the game most enemies will barely have an idea of where the gently caress you are half the time and the other half of the time they will be screaming in agony because you just hit Windblade from stealth. Even Elendar had trouble reliably hitting me.

Unfortunately there's not a whole lot of specific things to say about them, most of it's just taking advantage of your skills and knowing what to prioritize. And keeping Stealth on auto-cast past a certain point because gently caress manually reactivating it all the time.

Thanks for this. What do you think of the Traps tree? At a glance it looks kind of gimmicky.

Also, I immediately got a Sun Paladin escort, which I betrayed for Mobility. I am trying to resist the temptation of foregoing stealth entirely to rely on Mobility/Misdirection/Dual Weapon Defense to dodge everything and then pick up AM to plug the spell side of things. I know that pretty much every good fixedart dagger is Arcane, though.

# ¿ May 20, 2014 02:46

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

Just edit a text file and unlock everything. I got about half the classes unlocked the legit way and I only wish I'd skipped that poo poo sooner.

As someone who unlocked Oozemancer with his Oozemancer, I support this. :angel:

I thought we had a section in the OP that covered unlocking it this way, but I don't see it.

# ¿ May 29, 2014 02:33

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Magres posted:

If someone writes one up I'll add it in a spoiler.

Go to C:\Users\<NAME>\T-Engine\4.0\profiles\online\modules\tome

Find 'allow_build.profile', or create it if it doesn't exist.

Paste the following into the file:

code:

tutorial_done = true
undead_ghoul = true
afflicted_doomed = true
wilder_wyrmic = true
mage_pyromancer = true
warrior_brawler = true
mage_cryomancer = true
campaign_arena = true
birth_transmo_chest = true
mage = true
afflicted = true
divine_anorithil = true
rogue_poisons = true
birth_zigur_sacrifice = true
chronomancer_paradox_mage = true
wilder = true
divine_sun_paladin = true
mage_necromancer = true
corrupter = true
corrupter_reaver = true
undead = true
cosmetic_race_human_redhead = true
psionic_mindslayer = true
chronomancer_temporal_warden = true
psionic_solipsist = true
rogue_marauder = true
corrupter_corruptor = true
mage_tempest = true
yeek = true
adventurer = true
afflicted_cursed = true
construct_runic_golem = true
divine = true
psionic = true
mage_geomancer = true
wilder_oozemancer = true
construct = true
chronomancer = true
campaign_infinite_dungeon = true
undead_skeleton = true
wilder_stone_warden = true
wilder_summoner = true

Save it, run the game.

Enjoy all of your unlocks!

This should unlock EVERYTHING. If there's something missing, let me know. Note that you still can't be a redhead without donating.

# ¿ May 29, 2014 21:41

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Cuntpunch posted:

Prepare for Oozemancer nerfs(hooray)

# ¿ May 30, 2014 04:03

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Initial Skirmisher impressions:

Heavily relies on Dex/cun (not a surprise), utilizes will to a lesser extent. The Will tree has some potentially good talents, but depends on how they scale.

Shield effects scale off dex and cun.

Minimal investment in generics, no exciting 'UNLOCK ME AT 1!' categories unless you love traps, play not-Cornac. I went Halfling for obvious reasons. :v:

Might be good as AM, especially if the Will tree scales well, not sure the ratio of magic to non-magic fixedart slings, as I don't have any sling experience prior. Either way you'll want an extra tree because of lack of generics to spend otherwise.

Unless Hurricane Shot scales well, I foresee some issues handling packs of monsters.

I foresee Mobility potentially being nice here. I'm going to try going AM, actually.

You can Vault over tress. Don't know about other terrain. It's red but you can still do it as long as there's an enemy between you and the tree.

Bash & Smash seems to scale well and hit really loving hard.

Breathing Room is 7.4 stam regen (and healing) at max rank. Doesn't appear to scale off Will.

Kneecapper's pin caps at 4 points for 2 turns. The slow is hefty. Good for kiting, but appear to have a lot of mobility tools as it is. Damage scales at +6% per point.

Tsurupettan fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jun 3, 2014

# ¿ Jun 3, 2014 18:27

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Angry Diplomat posted:

To anyone who used to lament how bad Grappling was: make a Cornac Brawler, unlock Grappling at level 1, and just build Grappling, Double Strike, and your finishers. I'm level 15 now and this build is a complete riot. It's fun as heck to play, has a pretty good balance between straightforward ease-of-use and tactical complexity (positioning is huge for your grappling talents), and is preposterously strong if you can use it right (I suplexed a venus flytrap so hard that I got Size Matters at level 14 in T1 gauntlets). It's also funny and badass as all get out - I couldn't grapple Norgos, so I grabbed a snake and suplexed it onto him; I couldn't grapple Shardskin, so I ran off and starting hurling loving ants at him like Donkey Kong chucking barrels ahahahaha holy poo poo

A big priority is gonna be getting access to equipment that increases my size, I think. As soon as I can grapple those bigger boss/elite enemies this poo poo is just going to be a nonstop pain train all the way to Suplex City.

DarkGod, please add a train boss so Brawlers can suplex it.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2014 18:41

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

New fixedart. Not sure if any of them have been posted.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2014 18:50

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

For some reason I am really feeling the idea of playing 2h Ghoul Sun Paladin.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2014 01:54

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

NachtSieger posted:

And yes, I am a dork so my new sun paladin's name is [SUNLIGHT INTENSIFIES]. It seems to fit! I'm gonna get Judgment soon, can't wait to vomit big exploding balls of light everywhere.

My sun paladin's name is \o/ because I am a big dork too. :3:

# ¿ Jun 4, 2014 04:59

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Never actually played a staff build, is that just 'unlock the tree from Angolwen and get 5 points in staff mastery and play as usual'?

e: I am definitely NOT a fan of Fearless Cleave. Very, very much NOT a fan. It just feels clunky as poo poo.

Tsurupettan fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Jun 5, 2014

# ¿ Jun 5, 2014 03:01

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

Anyone have a good guide for the Asura? DFO Junkies doesn't have any entries for them.

I'm sorry, this thread only has Fighter guides. :smuggo:

# ¿ Jun 10, 2014 05:04

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

'Gaining a high difficulty achievement also grants lower achievements'

Best change.

# ¿ Jun 11, 2014 00:54

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

DeathSandwich posted:

It was 1/5/1/5 until I hit like level 48 because I ran out of things I wanted to spend class points on. I didn't pump antimagic shield because I always forgot to use it. Silence was a natural choice because it has an absolutely bonkers range at higher ranks and mana clash is kind of silly when you're already at 65+% crit chance with a ridiculous crit damage% in part due to the force of will multiplier.

Look at what the 5th point in Silence gets you, or 4th if you're an Oozemancer. Nothing but range, unless you're cat pointing that tree. This is a 'splitting hairs' thing, but just hitting specific breakpoints in abilities (usually radiuses, range or durations) and then stopping there can free up those points for more valuable options.

For Anti-Magic Shield you put it on auto-cast. Mana Clash is baller as gently caress though.

# ¿ Jul 2, 2014 22:33

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

I think somebody already said this, but it bears repeating -- why not just put abilities on cooldown whenever you put points in or take them out? It cripples combat respeccing, but doesn't impact convenience at all.

I didn't even know you could swap talents, fire the max one off, etc. back and forth. I just assumed you couldn't. So I support this because it literally doesn't impact my playstyle at all. :v:

Hopefully DG sees these posts, I know he reads the thread occasionally.

e: vvv This is probably exactly why I just assumed talents did without ever checking.

Tsurupettan fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Jul 6, 2014

# ¿ Jul 6, 2014 14:53

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Genpei Turtle posted:

Eh, I think that's more of a mixed bag. A lot of it is good in that it makes a lot of skills more viable, especially the Storm Drake tree which kind of sucked, but there are significant nerfs to a lot of other really nice skills. I don't really think Wyrmic is a class that needs anything nerfed--it's an early game powerhouse to be sure, but the much harder late game more than makes up for that.

I haven't played in a while but based off my experience with Wyrmic:

Cold tree: Straight up buff to everything but the armor, and the armor was something that was oft skipped due to the cost when stacked with Anti-magic shield anyway. The armor scaling on its face was probably a wee bit strong, a couple points was a poo poo ton of armor.

Fire tree: Wing Buffet still garbage, Bellowing Roar needed a slight toning back. Devouring Flames is either a buff or a nerf depending if you liked stacking it with the harmony talent. Fire Breath was garbage. This tree was pretty much '5 points in roar, ignore the rest'. Now it might be worth points.

Higher tree: Buffs all around. Guile is exciting.

Sand: Swallow/quake flat out buffs, burrow heavily rebalanced and might have some very nice mid-fight utility/escape with instant usage. Sand Breath, probably not really a change in blindness uptime when coupled with maxed Guile in drawn out fights. More damage is nice.

Storm: Much needed buffs, was pretty garbage before beyond hitting breakpoints in lightning speed.

Venom: Slight buffs, more corrosive mist uptime is very nice.

Overall I think this is a nice selection of changes. I don't know what the 'much harder late game' is, but Wyrmic was piss easy from start to finish. These are pretty much all buffs aside from some durations being tweaked. The biggest thing is that there are numerous buffs to cooldowns which helps solve an issue Wyrmics had of blowing everything and being left with nothing for a few turns.

# ¿ Sep 1, 2014 21:14

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

HenryEx posted:

Incinerating blows sounds like a statement, not a skill.

Also, i hope Doombringers will be able to devour creeps to temporarily gain their skills.

DotA player spotted. :v:

this idea also appeals to me.

# ¿ Oct 15, 2014 18:07

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

I will happily accept Options for my Bullet Hell character.

# ¿ Oct 16, 2014 17:53

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

I don't see any mention of the class overhauls for TW etc. in the changelog. I assume they aren't in yet?

# ¿ Oct 17, 2014 17:37

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

It's like you guys have never played a roguelike and had something hilariously horrible happen to your character.

What's that? You rerolled it into an anti-magic ring on your spellcaster? :angel:

# ¿ Oct 19, 2014 13:19

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Adding corrupter_demonologist = true to the allow_build file will unlock it. What's the name of the new elf?

# ¿ Oct 28, 2014 00:59

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

PureQuestion posted:

I will see about making it a proper feature, it currently isn't

As for demons sucking to summon, well. Shibari is pushing for some major buffs and QoL fixes there. We'll see.

That gross and creepy egomaniac gets a say in anything? :laffo:

e: then again AotD was made a moderator or some poo poo so why am I surprised.

Tsurupettan fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Oct 29, 2014

# ¿ Oct 29, 2014 20:16

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

As long as they never see a dime of the money I give Darkgod I guess it doesn't really matter.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2014 21:47

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

I played this a metric ton a few years back. The last time I played, Ashes of Urh'rok came out, I bought it and haven't touched it since. How is Embers of Rage? How much has the game changed since I last touched it? Are there any major updates/releases on the horizon? Is Oozemancer still crazy powerful?

# ¿ May 20, 2017 22:28

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

do you guys have any pro tips for gunslinger or sawbutcher? i just bought the new campaign and have no idea what to actually do with them.

# ¿ Jun 24, 2017 20:58

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Foreskin Problems posted:

bpat's gunslinger guide got me my first win.

this guide owns

also he keeps warning you about one-shotting yourself with vital shot and i was like 'nah that ain't gonna happen to me' until an ice tree yanked me into my own bullet.

e: welp I exited the map that generates from that guy guarding the bridge on the way back to the giants. i assume i can't go back and i missed my opportunity?

Tsurupettan fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Jun 25, 2017

# ¿ Jun 25, 2017 02:46

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Am I supposed to do something special on the last boss of the orc campaign so that the stupid priest doesn't heal back to full every time I get it to 40%ish?

# ¿ Jun 25, 2017 10:03

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Okay I managed to get through his healing with a little luck. Is there any fancy post-game content I can fiddle with, like the golem in the old campaign? I've cleared out everything I can see on the map except for random patrols. I'm surprised I never found a way to drop things in the vault in the orc campaign.

# ¿ Jun 25, 2017 19:54

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Velius posted:

The Vault is off the observatory map. There's access to the infinite dungeon in the orc campaign via the ruined dungeon which is somewhere random. Just autoexplore.

Yeah I cleaned out the world map. Missed the vault in the observatory. Thanks!

# ¿ Jun 25, 2017 20:49

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

I'm playing this at 2560 x 1440, and in the past I had a smaller monitor. Is there a way to get the hotkey toolbar to extend all the way across the screen and give me more space? I see I can shrink the icons and fit more on the bar as it is now, but I don't see an option to just make the bar longer. Maybe I am blind.

e: I'm technically not blind. The 'unlock UI' button was actually off the monitor for me for some reason. :v:

Tsurupettan fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Jun 27, 2017

# ¿ Jun 26, 2017 22:46

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

I'm playing a Sun Paladin for the first time in forever and I noticed they redesigned chants. Does the Sun Paladin escort now give different things? I checked the wiki and it still mentions the old individual Chants on that escort, so I wasn't sure if it was outdated or not.

# ¿ Jun 27, 2017 21:00

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 00:28

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Thanks! Also whaaaaat Bathe in Light doesn't murder undead any more? When the heck did that get changed?

# ¿ Jun 27, 2017 22:12

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