No Friend of Gravity posted:

New thread! Seriously, make a Padherder account; it's more efficient than spamming your friend ID in the thread. (Which, by the way, can we cut that out?)

trucutru posted:

Get Lit?

Vincent Valentine posted:

Well it's not entirely accurate. He's great for a lot of things, just nothing that the vast majority of people in this thread care about. I mean, the first thread got like 100 posts a day and that was over a year ago. We've done everything a simple 3.5x multiplier can handle, and now that kind of thing doesn't cut it with new descendeds.

Speaking of new descendeds: Apparently there's a new conditional descended dungeon coming where the condition is that every dudes main type has to be Dragon.

Good thing I spent so much time working on making Fagan into a good leader and making a Dragon team to compliment him! I wanted more of a challenge and he seemed fun, but I ultimately gave up on him, guess it's time for that to pay off!

Wait, gently caress

Ultima66 posted:

Mirthless posted:

Verche unless he's an absolutely vital sub (Athena teams, and... Athena teams?) simply because what he does isn't very spectacular in the first place.

mephology posted:

Get the pitch forks! It is 422 and that is how it should be

dwarf74 posted:

I really don't think it should be 4/2/2. Why add to confusion for sake of a dumb tradition?

padijun posted:

When did NA get the ECO collab? Is skilling up yomi/venus a good idea the next time it comes around?

Prowler posted:

I am down to 71/85 friends after removing a few people who had 30+ days of inactivity, as well as some pruning from before. I could definitely use more pal points. Especially I&I havers!

two_step posted:

A mistake there: You want over 80% HP before moving on from wave 3, or you will be pretty sad on the twinlits

Zierham posted:

Zeus leader skill.

trucutru posted:

BTW, the guide needs to mention that you should set-up a large combo in floor 3 while stalling at the Tamadra. Without that it will be pretty difficult for many teams to do the required damage in floor 4.

pixfix posted:

So I just rolled an Isis as my starting roll and backed up the data048.bin.

I hear mixed things about her, this will be a non IAP account. Should I just go with her or reroll during godfest?

Zombies' Downfall posted:

Re: the shittalking of Green Sonia near the end of the Godfest, couldn't you run a perfectly solid monogreen team with her using just Canopus and ADKs?

DACK FAYDEN posted:

She's not BAD! I just am salty that I hit the rare one when the common one is far superior.

Eddain posted:

I have 3 dark fruit dragons and no intention of using them. And one green fruit dragon.

aherdofpenguins posted:

Welp, so now that I have a team that can consistently do the normal Zeus (Red Sonia) I pretty much have no reason to ever do anything else. Even on normal, non 1.5x drop days that's the fastest way to get monster exp, rank up, and get + eggs. Almost sad in a way

Shark Tower posted:

Wasn't there talk about how it's better to just farm tamadras from metal dragons instead of evolving Satans for awakenings because of the work involved?

BGrifter posted:

Not really sure how that changes anything? It's still an enormous stamina investment in materials and evolution mats.

Using duplicate Satans means diverting stamina that could be used to farm the Tamadras needed into farming evolution mats. Even without taking into account nice event bonuses like 2x Tamadra rate or Tamadras in Pengdra Village it's still a better deal to just keep farming jewel dragons unless you're drowning in evolution materials with nothing to use them on.

Zierham posted:

I'm loosely familiar with the statistical methods that (I think) would be used, but am utterly incapable of actually doing them... It'd be based on average stamina per awakening taking into account the evo materials needed (and maybe xp needed, using super metals?) and then coming up with a range for some given likelihood of getting the drops in that range (making up numbers, say 120-180 stamina to have a greater-than 80% chance of an awakening with each method) to account for drop rate variance? I mean, technically, averaging the expected stamina based on drop chance already accounts for this, but I could see that with Tamadra being pretty rare, a risk adverse person might want the relative "certainty" of spending (again, making up numbers) 250 stamina to get the awakening by evolving a Satan (given the drop chances for the xp and his mats are much higher, and there are multiple steps, making it extraordinarily unlikely you would spend, say, double the "average" stamina) versus there still being a (say) 20% chance of spending double the average stamina to get a tamadra.

Any chance you've got the statistics background (and time) to actually calculate the average stamina per tamadra based on PADForum drop rates and the average stamina per evolving a Satan (assuming super metals at average xp per stamina from PADForum data and the drop rates of the mats where available? Then do an expected stamina for 80%+ chance?

DaveWoo posted:

On the whole "how to awaken Satan" question, my advice would be to just run Metal Dragons regardless. If you're lucky and get some Tamadras, great; if not, well, you'll still end up with a whole bunch of King Metals to feed to your spare Satans. That's what I did, and it worked out just fine for me.

Cryohazard posted:

I was under the impression that fruit dragons were added as an extra little boost for colour- and not type-based teams, and that's precisely the reason they're Dragon-type, because Dragon-type is 99% useless.

Chiminey posted:

How doable is twinlits with a max level unevolved Zeus? I've got a maxed out Valk, Bane, and Echidna and would rather not use the experience on Zeus if I can avoid it.