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Happy Blue posted:That scholar's gown is adorable. He has a couple kind of hilarious endings though, which makes him a worthwhile character in my book.
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AJ_Impy posted:
...Ooohhhhh. I was picturing Cthulu-like tentacles and spines, not actual ones myself.
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Arp1033 posted:...Ooohhhhh. I was picturing Cthulu-like tentacles and spines, not actual ones myself. Someone needs to do a drawing of an elephant in the vein of Dürer's Rhinoceros.
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 The traditional policy on stray beasts is to hope that they return to the forest and stay there. Hunters are no match for such creatures. You would only make it angry and waste more lives. Certain hunters and lodges specialize in hunting legendary creatures, perhaps you could call on one or more of these to put the beast down. Get me Abraham van Helsing and Solomon Kane immediately! 
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Clearly, at some point, we must make the most hella yuri playthrough that we can, however that works.
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AJ_Impy posted:
I wonder just what can you do about it if you know what it is. Safari Princess anyone?
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Gyra_Solune posted:Clearly, at some point, we must make the most hella yuri playthrough that we can, however that works. As tacky as it sounds, yeah. I'm curious to see how the game handles it.
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Dareon posted:Yeah, accepting Banion's offer to dance is pretty much terrible, especially if you have a poor head for innuendo. If you don't have a poor head for innuendo it's not actually terrible, but if you do refusing is the better plan, even though without enough knowledge of court manners you sound like a brat. And jonjonaug's right: Banion does have some good epilogue scenes. Gyra_Solune posted:Clearly, at some point, we must make the most hella yuri playthrough that we can, however that works. Elodie can't actually marry any of them, but there are three female characters she can end up with in the epilogue. They get as much detail as the men she marries. Presumably the 'most hella yuri' playthrough would involve dancing with one of them, giving flowers to a second, and marrying the third?
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Well we should also be supporting our Lumen Rangers in their endeavors to find love, if possible. Clearly magical powers and lesbianism are entwined in Nova, thusly we must spread the Lumen potential to as many as possible. so like we definitely wouldn't be having what's-her-face blond lady marrying that Ixion guy like it was in this current playthrough, for example
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zonohedron posted:Elodie can't actually marry any of them, but there are three female characters she can end up with in the epilogue. They get as much detail as the men she marries. Presumably the 'most hella yuri' playthrough would involve dancing with one of them, giving flowers to a second, and marrying the third? OP should just show off all of them. Speaking of epilogue variations, I really like how there's a lot of neat epilogue variations that are entirely dependent on only one or two choices. There's a couple that I like that you can only get if you FAIL certain skill checks (try choosing Talarist at the end if you accept his necklace but fail to turn him down gently when he comes knocking).
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Has anyone tried hacking in max stats from day 1, and then seeing how the game plays through when you succeed in every check? Or will the game break because it expects you to fail at least some of them?
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Z the IVth posted:Has anyone tried hacking in max stats from day 1, and then seeing how the game plays through when you succeed in every check? Or will the game break because it expects you to fail at least some of them? I'm pretty sure people have hacked in stats with the game's debug console before. I doubt it would make the game crash.
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Niel posted:I'm pretty sure people have hacked in stats with the game's debug console before. I doubt it would make the game crash. That's not what he meant. If the game expects you to fail at least 1 check, what position would being able to pass all checks by maxing all the values put you in?
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     My lady, there is a letter for you. (Who sent this? It isn't signed...)It appears to be a poem, describing you in a manner that is entirely inappropriate for a Queen.  (I *what*? With a *squid*?)   (That's actually pretty funny!)Just then, an incredibly unlucky breeze swirls between the windows of your tower bedroom, tugging the paper out of your hands and off into the sky. You stick your head out the window to discover the 'poem' caught and fluttering on the roof nearby. You can almost reach it.  What's the worst that can happen? It blows off and someone reads it and laughs at you? That's better than breaking your neck. Besides, if you're lucky it will rain and wash the words away.      I regret to inform you that Fabian, the Earl of Titan and Duke-Regent of Elath, has passed away.This isn't really a surprise; he was pretty old. The problem is the political implications. With the control of Elath in doubt, it falls to the crown to make decisions. Young Lord Adair will not reach his fifteenth birthday for over two years. He requires a regent. His stepmother, Arisse, the Duchess of Lillah, has petitioned that the boy be left in her care. This would, however, leave her in personal control of two neighboring duchies, which is generally forbidden. (Not to mention that she's closely related to the Duchess of Mead and the Duke of Kigal!) (She could control almost the entire eastern half of Nova. People already call her Nova's other queen!) (Duchess Arisse almost certainly killed her second husband after she divorced him. Her son, the Earl of Io, apparently hates and fears her.) (And the last Duke of Mead died in mysterious circumstances while she was around. Which meant the title of Mead passed to Arisse's daughter. But without proof, she couldn't be punished.) The boy does have a living grandfather, the Earl of Ishtar. Or you might appoint an unrelated noble to act in his stead. The Earl of Ishtar has suggested another possibility. You and Adair are both young, not too far apart in age. He requests that we accept the boy as your future husband and keep him here at the castle. What about your brother Armand? He would be a safe pair of hands to watch over Adair. As you wish.    There is a woman here to see you. She is a musician and wishes Crown patronage. (Which means money.)Musician: Your Royal Highness! If you accept me as a member of your court I will immortalise you in word and song. I have dabbled in musical styles from many countries, and can entertain your guests and lighten your evenings. (I wonder if she also writes naughty poetry?)  (Musicians are often used as secret agents and messengers. They can be useful - and dangerous.)The musician sings a little ditty to demonstrate her skills with the lute.   (It's okay, but nothing special.) (That might mean she has 'other' talents.) You are familiar with the traditions of many locations, yes? Can you also perform accents?Musician: Aye, mum. That I can. What about juggling?Musician: I can keep a set of dangers in the air. Interesting. I look forward to all you have to tell me. (We'll have to talk privately to see how much she knows, but I think she might be useful.)I don't know why the game doesn't have a scene to make this clear, but she officially became a spy for us.    You have unlocked a new outfit!  You receive a letter from Young Lord Adair. So far, he's enjoying himself with your uncle Armand in Mazomba. He says the trees look different, and there are a lot more frogs. He looks forward to visiting the lookout fort at Shepherd's Point. You also receive an update from your agents. It would seem that the Duchess of Lillah is not pleased with your actions and is putting out feelers amongst the other nobles for support. If she means to rebel against you, that is treason. Unfortunately, she's a long way away, in her own power base. Calling her to order may not be easy. Still, the longer you wait, the more dangerous she may become.  You give orders for assassins to arrange for a quiet and natural-looking demise. She is not a young woman, and she's just lost her husband... it shouldn't be suspicious.       (A falling star... Pretty!)You receive word that the Duchess of Lillah has passed away quietly in her sleep. (At least, that's what everyone thinks!)She left her title not to the Earl of Io, but to Kiran, one of her younger sons. He's 19, and rather handsome as you recall. Everything has turned out for the best.    What a beautiful day! It's nice to stop and breathe sometimes.   Elodie is now cheerful, for the first time. Cheerful has the following effects:   You have unlocked a new outfit!  My lady, there are letters for you. (Another letter from Briony. Why does she keep writing me? We were never even friends.) (She says she's bored and lonely and she's looking forward to seeing me at Gwenelle's birthday party.) (That's right! Gwenelle is about to turn fifteen! She'll be Duchess of Sudbury for real now.) (This other letter must be my invitation to her birthday celebration next week. Gwenelle and I were friends at school, and this will be a big event, but it's also a long way to travel. A lot of things can happen on the road.) (It'll be good to see my friends!) We now have the nurse's gown.  You have nothing more to learn about Novan History.   On your journey to Sudbury, your carriage is attacked by bandits!   You look down in shock at the arrow which has buried itself in your side. Outside, you can hear screams and curses, but it feels unreal. Your world is centered around pain.  You know that trying to push the arrow through will only make matters worse, so you have to bear the pain and wait patiently until someone can help you.  Calling on your mental discipline, you remain calm and keep a steady pressure on the wound. Your escort chases off the bandits, and an experienced sergeant cuts out the arrowhead and bandages your wound. It's actually not as bad as it looked, but it still hurts. The rest of your trip goes smoothly.  Gwenelle's party is lovely - not nearly as glamourous as your own upcoming birthday will be, of course, but it's still a major event on the noble social calendar. Everyone who is anyone is present. Uncle Laurent and your younger cousins are here, but Charlotte and her mother are not. Apparently Charlotte was ill. There are refreshments and dancers and musicians and polite conversations... and one or two not-so-polite.  ... will not be shoved aside. Mother, it's my domain now. I need space for myself. You have your own lands to manage. Just because you're of age doesn't mean you know everything, young lady. You need my advice. This is my home. It has never been yours.Before you can back away, their gazes fall on you. They wait expectantly for you as near-queen to settle the dispute.    You should listen to your mother. She loves you, and she deserves your respect. Thank you, Your Highness. I am the Duchess of Sudbury, and I must command respect of my own. We're not children anymore, Elodie. If you let people treat you like that, you can't rule them.A bit later, Briony catches up with you.  Hello, Elodie. It's so wonderful that you're going to be Queen now. I mean, I am sorry about your mother... Thanks. ... but think of the opportunities you're going to have! You're so lucky.That's an odd way of putting it. Anyway, I was wondering, now that you're almost Queen and everything... have they told you all the secrets? What secrets? Like, how to get into the old palace! I've heard it's packed full of treasure. You mean the Old Capital by Kathre Lake? The abandoned one? Exactly! They had to leave in a hurry, so they left all kinds of treasure behind. And nobody ever goes there because the forest is supposed to be haunted, so the treasure's probably still there! (The forest isn't just haunted, it's full of monsters like the keythong!) (But what if she's right and it is full of ancient treasure?) I don't know any secrets about getting into the old palace - yet. But if you come back to the castle with me, we can check the archives. Great! I knew you could help. I'm supposed to go back to school, but I was already planning to sneak off. I'll ditch my escort, sneak ahead, and meet you at the castle! (This could be fun.) At the end, you all share a pleasant meal and prepare to return to your various lands.   You have nothing more to learn about Foreign Intelligence. I found a bunch of maps of the area around Kathre Lake. Great! I also found reports on all sorts of really nasty monsters down there. That was hundreds of years ago! The palace was abandoned hundreds of years ago. The reports never stopped. I can't find anyone who's gone into the Old Forest and come back. Well, if it is full of treasure, would you want to tell anyone how you got in and stole some? Look, I know it's dangerous. I'm not stupid. But you and I are educated noblewomen, not peasants. I'm good with a sword and a bow. And you - don't you have magic powers now that you're Queen? Um... So come with me! It'll be an awesome adventure. Our parents are going to be so impressed. (I'm really not supposed to run off on my own.) Briony... What is going on with you and your family? Nothing. Really, nothing. Ever since Uncle Kevan moved in my parents don't want anything to do with me. I'm an adult now, you know! (Technically. She's sixteen.) And they still say I have to be at school all the time. I'm the heir, I should be spending time in Mead! When did your uncle move in? I don't know, a few years ago. After Gran's divorce. (The Duchess of Lillah divorced her second husband Jael, and he 'died' right afterwards. She probably had him killed. Most people think that was no great loss, because there were all sorts of horrible rumors about Jael. But the Earl of Io, Briony's uncle Kevan, was quite upset about it. I guess he liked his stepfather.) That must have been a stressful time for your family. Yeah, I'm sure, but so what? That was years ago! They've had plenty of time to get over it! I just want them to pay attention to me. If I find the lost treasures of Nova, they have to notice. You've already run away from school. If they don't notice that, they won't notice anything. You mean... it's hopeless??? No, I mean, all you need to do is stay here and wait. Getting into more trouble won't make a difference. Oh. I guess maybe you're right. Thanks, Elodie! You're smarter than I remembered.  Argh!    The Duchess of Mead is here to see you, my lady. Elodie! Where is my daughter? Which daughter? You know very well that I only have one. Really, mother? Because sometimes I think you don't have one at all! Briony! Thank goodness you're all right. Oh, now you care? You certainly didn't want to see me before! You haven't let me come home in ages! Briony, darling, there are things you don't understand... I don't understand because you never tell me anything!The Duchess sighs and embraces her daughter. Very well. If that's what it will take. Come home with me, and I will explain everything. (Looks like everything worked out for the best!The final part will be up tomorrow.
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Just curious, are you going to tell us the various achievements you're getting in this run, because you've gotten quite a few.
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At some point, on an alternate playthrough, we do have to go treasure hunting. Even if it does mean that monsters will get us.
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Broenheim posted:Just curious, are you going to tell us the various achievements you're getting in this run, because you've gotten quite a few. Probably not. I don't really have time to do it, and if you are curious it should be pretty obvious what achievements we have gotten. Anyone is welcome to create a list on their own though.
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 this Eoldie is bipolar as gently caress, planning assassinations and keeping the other nobles at bay while practicing her singing and generally being a dainty princess type 
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jonjonaug posted:He has a couple kind of hilarious endings though, which makes him a worthwhile character in my book. I bought the game a couple of weeks ago after reading this LP and finally got around to playing it today. I've done 3 playthroughs so far, won the second one but lost the first and third. In the second one, I saw one of Banion's endings and it was amazing, what a scheming douchebag. Incidentally, while all skills have some use in this game, there are certain skills that really seem to come up much more often than others. I wonder if anyone has sat down and counted out how many important skill checks there are for each skill in the game over all possible paths. Also, I can't believe nobody's commented on how weird the upper-level composure skill-checks are yet. That teacher is really creepy.
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Z the IVth posted:Has anyone tried hacking in max stats from day 1, and then seeing how the game plays through when you succeed in every check? Or will the game break because it expects you to fail at least some of them? I did this for fun after getting all of the achievements. It doesn't break the game or anything like that. The story proceeds along very smoothly, though you lock yourself into certain paths when you are unable to fail any skill checks. Still, when I did it, I managed to see a number of things that I hadn't previously, up to and including a new character with a portrait of their own. It was interesting, but understandably dull with all of the challenge removed.
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surf rock posted:Also, I can't believe nobody's commented on how weird the upper-level composure skill-checks are yet. That teacher is really creepy. Well she can't exactly shoot you in the gut and have you practice treating the wound without panicking...
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surf rock posted:Also, I can't believe nobody's commented on how weird the upper-level composure skill-checks are yet. That teacher is really creepy. On an happier note, we seem to be finding out a lot of "secret" ways of solving problems, which seem to be extremely effective. Are those the best possible ways to solve those problems, assuming such a thing is possible in this game?
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RabidWeasel posted:
The Crusader kings II parallels just keep mounting.
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Super Jay Mann posted:The Crusader kings II parallels just keep mounting.
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JT Jag posted:This Elodie is pretty obviously a 16 Diplo/20 Intrigue type. With 0 martial, 5 stewardship, and 20 learning.
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MegaZeroX posted:With 0 martial, 5 stewardship, and 20 learning. Makes sense, got into one battle, picked up wounded.
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surf rock posted:Incidentally, while all skills have some use in this game, there are certain skills that really seem to come up much more often than others. I wonder if anyone has sat down and counted out how many important skill checks there are for each skill in the game over all possible paths. As far as I know there is only one skill with only one use. (On the other side of the spectrum, there is no skill that every Elodie who survives to her coronation has.) paradoxGentleman posted:On an happier note, we seem to be finding out a lot of "secret" ways of solving problems, which seem to be extremely effective. Are those the best possible ways to solve those problems, assuming such a thing is possible in this game? Depends on what you mean by 'secret'. Being able to tell the attempted poisoner that divine justice was already done is the best possible solution there, for example, but being able to  Kevan if he demands a duel is not the best way of dealing with the duel, even though that option was unlocked through a skill check, too.Similarly, passing a single Foreign Affairs check unlocked all three of "make Brin marry an Ixionite", "make Brin a commoner", and "execute Brin", and one of those is better than the others. (There is an even better solution there that we didn't pass the check to know about, though, so this is not actually a counterexample.)
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I want to see you go to the old palace with maxed out Lumen skills. Time for roast monster!
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zonohedron posted:As far as I know there is only one skill with only one use. (On the other side of the spectrum, there is no skill that every Elodie who survives to her coronation has.) Is it Running because it would be hilarious if it was. All three of those seem to be the 'you will only use these like once but they goddamn better be at 100' and thus far I haven't even seen much of a potential place where it could be used. The spooky haunted castle place is where one might be but I'm definitely not sure. I wonder how useful a Super Athletics Elodie would be, though.
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Gyra_Solune posted:Is it Running because it would be hilarious if it was. All three of those seem to be the 'you will only use these like once but they goddamn better be at 100' and thus far I haven't even seen much of a potential place where it could be used. The spooky haunted castle place is where one might be but I'm definitely not sure. No, I can think of 3 uses for running on the top of my head. I'm pretty sure the skill he is referring to is swimming.
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One thing is that even skills that don't see particular use in a playthrough can still have the more subtle benefit of opening extra weekend activities. Many of those activities can do a much better job of controlling your mood than the default ones can, so there is a benefit to be had.
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Gyra_Solune posted:Is it Running because it would be hilarious if it was. All three of those seem to be the 'you will only use these like once but they goddamn better be at 100' and thus far I haven't even seen much of a potential place where it could be used. The spooky haunted castle place is where one might be but I'm definitely not sure. There are at least three distinct events where you might need Running (though two of them can be passed with another skill instead), at least three for Climbing (none of which can be passed with another skill instead), and at least two for Swimming (neither of which can be passed with another skill instead). Dogs is the one that has only one use, as far as I know, and it doesn't open an extra weekend activity.
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MegaZeroX posted:
Oh Elodie. You are the best murder-princess.
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zonohedron posted:There are at least three distinct events where you might need Running (though two of them can be passed with another skill instead), at least three for Climbing (none of which can be passed with another skill instead), and at least two for Swimming (neither of which can be passed with another skill instead). That's what made the first goon Elodie playthrough so funny: not only does Dogs apparently only have the one use, it's for an event that you can handle like three other ways. I have a hard time seeing how an athletic and animal-loving Elodie would make it to coronation without some really specific skill placement elsewhere.
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Hooray, poison! Hooray, latrines! Hooray, collapsing empires! Hooray, Anime King 9000! Elodie being cheerful gets kind of creepy occasionally.
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Dareon posted:Elodie being cheerful gets At least her expressions are appropriate in dialogue?  (Meanwhile, Joslyn's single expression is pretty much never appropriate.  )
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That expression is more "absolutely thrilled" than "cheerful", which is why it makes sense for a momentary reaction in conversation, and less so for the static representation of "this is your mood this week."
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Ditocoaf posted:That expression is more "absolutely thrilled" than "cheerful", which is why it makes sense for a momentary reaction in conversation, and less so for the static representation of "this is your mood this week." Exactly - "Yay! It's my cousin Charlotte!" is not creepy, unlike "Yay! King Togami makes his opponents disappear!" (To be fair, Angry and Depressed are pretty funny with some of the class texts, too.)
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